March 27, 2009 12:36 PM

FAA Wants Bird Strike Records Confidential

(AP)  The Federal Aviation Administration has reversed itself after promising to disclose records about how frequently and where commercial planes are damaged by hitting flying birds.

The agency has formally proposed keeping those government records secret from air travelers on the grounds that if the public found out the information then airports and air carriers wouldn't report damage from birds.

After a rare multiple bird strike forced a US Airways jet to ditch in the Hudson River on Jan. 15, The Associated Press requested access to the bird strike database, which contains more than 100,000 reports of bird strikes that have been voluntarily submitted since 1990.

In a Feb. 18 conference call, FAA officials promised The Associated Press the agency would turn over the data within days. Since then, the FAA has said only that the AP's request for the data under the Freedom of Information Act was "under review."

Last Thursday, the FAA quietly published its proposal to keep the data secret in the Federal Register, a dry compendium of rules and proposals the government publishes daily.

The agency based its proposal on the assumption that the industry it regulates is more concerned about its image and profits than about the safety of its passengers.

"The agency is concerned that there is a serious potential that information related to bird strikes will not be submitted because of fear that the disclosure of raw data could unfairly cast unfounded aspersions on the submitter," the FAA said in the Federal Register.

The FAA is particularly worried that the public will compare the data on various airports. "Drawing comparisons between airports is difficult because of the unevenness of reporting," it said. Not only do some airports do a better job than others of reporting strikes, they also face different challenges based on the bird habitats in their areas, the agency said.

"Inaccurate portrayals of airports and airlines could have a negative impact on their participation in reporting bird strikes," FAA added.

But the agency has rejected another method of dealing with the problem of unequal reporting by airports and airlines.

In 1999, the National Transportation Safety Board concluded that the voluntary reporting system fails to produce reports on many bird strikes so the FAA database "grossly underestimates the magnitude of the problem." Further, the board quoted Agriculture Department experts as saying "over 50 percent of the reports lack the most critical piece of information about a strike, the species of bird."

As a result, the board recommended that the FAA require that bird strikes be reported. But the FAA refused.

Meantime, the FAA acknowledges that, with increases in air travel and in the populations of dangerous large birds like Canada geese, the problem is growing. It said the annual number of strikes reported has grown from 1,759 in 1990 to 7,666 in 2007.

The FAA bragged in the notice that its wildlife strike database is "unparalleled."

On Wednesday, after last week's FAA proposal to keep the data secret, Melanie Yohe of the FAA told the AP the release of the database was "way overdue" and that "it should be with you right now." She said there is "no reason for it to take this long."

The FAA's proposal is reminiscent of NASA's efforts in late 2007 to withhold air safety data from the AP because it claimed that revealing the information could damage the public's confidence in airlines and affect airline profits. NASA released parts of the data months later under pressure from Congress and the public, disclosing thousands of pages that were deliberately scrambled so no one could identify the pilots who were promised anonymity to participate in the government safety survey.

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by start99 April 23, 2009 12:41 AM EDT
I wonder if the airlines report how much damage their engines cost in repair shops or overhuals? I surely have seen enough of them come in the shop when I was working in it!!
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by philabias March 29, 2009 1:53 AM EDT
Faa says that the industrie it serves not regulates is telling it what to do.something is wrong with this.And i will bet that if the FAA acts like it is in charge and sets fines and penalties for failing to report incidents and closing those that fail to meet there obligation to do so. then they will follow the rules..And isnt this actually a report of public safety for those who would check out the airlines they will be traveling on. JUST MORE OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATIONS TRANSPARETSY I AM STARTING TO SEE RIGHT THRU IT.
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by philabias March 29, 2009 1:46 AM EDT
here is where the lier Obama will try and undo the freedom of information act.just like he had the name of the freedom tower changed to one world center to reflect his desire to put the world under the UN . And you where stupid enough to vote for the lier in cheif. I never believed we could have a worse president than Bush. I stand corrected....
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by tincup356 March 28, 2009 10:03 PM EDT
They are definitely hiding something.from the public as usual. I would not be surprised if the are covering up ground to air missile operations. They are so full of it! after 9/11 I don't believe anything the FAA has to say or the NTSB or any other gov agency for that matter.
Posted by estai777 at 10:06 PM : Mar 27, 2009 ...............................
You sure got that right,,,,,,I would not trust anyone from our government any further than I could throw them,,,,,,,they lie about everything to cover their tails because if the real truth were told about everything our government does.......we would be revolting in a heartbeat.
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by estai777 March 28, 2009 1:06 AM EDT
They are definitely hiding something.from the public as usual. I would not be surprised if the are covering up ground to air missile operations. They are so full of it! after 9/11 I don't believe anything the FAA has to say or the NTSB or any other gov agency for that matter.
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by Geoffrey_816715 March 27, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
Sigh...... Bureaucrats can come up with reasons to do, or not do, anything. I personally try to avoid flying through the closest hub because of the incredible number of goose vs. plane strikes.
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by gce651 March 27, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
If that's a safety concern for the public and bird strikes cause damage then more information is better than less.

TRANSPARENCY NOW!
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by DocD--2008 March 27, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
"As a result, the board recommended that the FAA require that bird strikes be reported. But the FAA refused. "

Tell the FAA to do what they are told or look for a new job. Tell the airports/airlines it is mandatory reporting with huge penalties that CANNOT be passed on to the consumers and loss of rights to fly if they fail to report. WE pay for the FAA, WE pay for the airlines. WE have a right to this information. WE ARE THE PEOPLE.
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by rainbowbrew March 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT
Why do gubbermint agencies feel they need to sav us from knowing? it is like the UFO arguement - they lie, it is like the cannabis debate - they lie.

Why does the US gubbermint lie so much It is really hard to raise a kid with the politicians being examples. They are just as greedy as the guys in AIG
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by Resin-Smoker March 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT
I work in avionics and i can tell you first hand that i see 2-3 bird strikes a week from just five aircraft.
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