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April 17, 2009 4:00 PM

New Jobless Claims Make Unexpected Drop

(CBS/AP)  The number of new jobless claims and the total number of people receiving benefits both dropped unexpectedly last week, though they remain at elevated levels unlikely to fall substantially in the coming months.

Few economists expect a turnaround in the battered labor market anytime soon with companies laying off thousands of workers weekly.

Still, the tally of initial requests for unemployment benefits fell to 639,000 from the previous week's figure of 670,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. Analysts expected a smaller drop to 650,000.

The 670,000 total was a new high for the current recession and the most since October 1982, when the economy was emerging from a severe downturn, though the labor force has grown by half since then.

The number of people claiming benefits for more than a week fell slightly to 5.1 million from 5.12 million, after rising to record-highs for five straight weeks. Analysts expected 5.15 million continuing claims.

But an additional 1.4 million people were receiving benefits under an extended unemployment compensation program approved by Congress last year. That tally was as of Feb. 14, the latest data available, and brings the total jobless benefit rolls to about 6.5 million.

That's up sharply from a year ago, when 2.8 million people were receiving benefits.

The four-week average of new claims, which smooths out fluctuations, increased 2,000 to 641,750, the highest since October 1982.

Meanwhile, retail sales declined for the fifth straight month, though they likewise improved from January's numbers and beat analyst expectations.

And the deepening recession caused worker productivity to slide by a worse-than-expected amount in the fourth quarter while wage pressures shot up at the fastest clip in two years.

The Labor Department said Thursday that productivity, the amount of output per hour of work, fell at an annual rate of 0.4 percent in the October-December period. At the same time, unit labor costs were surging by 5.7 percent.

More job losses were announced this week. Los Angeles-based aerospace company Northrop Grumman Corp. said Wednesday it will lay off 750 workers, mostly in southern California. Tyco Electronics Ltd., which makes electronic components, undersea telecommunications systems and wireless equipment, said it is laying off more employees, though it would not say how many.

London-based Diageo PLC, the world's largest producer of alcoholic drinks, said Wednesday it would eliminate 150 positions in North America next month. The company's brands include Ketel One vodka, Baileys and Captain Morgan.

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Seagate Technology, meanwhile, said it is cutting 20 percent of its vice presidents and other top executives on top of previously announced layoffs.

"There can be no doubt that employers continue to shed labor at a frightening pace, with no end in sight," Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics, wrote in a client note Wednesday.

Despite the bigger-than-expected drop, Wall Street is set to resume its decline.

Ahead of the market's opening, Dow Jones industrial average futures were down 87, or 1.27 percent, to 6,743. Standard & Poor's 500 index futures and Nasdaq 100 index futures were also lower.

The market reflects China's failure to promise new stimulus measures as many had hoped.

Also, General Motors said in its annual report that auditors raised serious doubt about the automaker's ability to continue operating.

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by swami545 March 5, 2009 5:23 PM EST
lastdance139 ,

It's Thursday, shouldn't you be doing your homework now?
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by ontheleft March 5, 2009 5:12 PM EST
'New Jobless Claims Make Unexpected Drop'

This must mean that the Bush tax cuts for the rich are finally having an effect. There couldn't be any other explanation. Happy days are here again.
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by caco58 March 5, 2009 4:57 PM EST
All these democraps are going to do is suck up your money at some overbloated cost run...then they'll legislate a huge sum of money for it...then they'll write the selection criteria for it so that nobody qualifies to use it...then the money will be returned back up to the government and sucked into the black hole, never used for the purpose it was legislated.

True Willow One, for instance, the so called program to keep people in their homes and out of foreclosure. It will require the bank to offer you a refinance or modification "if you qualify". One of the qualifications is you must be current on your loan. DUH!!!!!! The reason why they are getting foreclosed on is because they are behind on the payment!!!. So how the heck is that gonna help anyone in trouble and keep them in their home??
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by credibility2 March 5, 2009 2:05 PM EST
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the current administration has had the formulation altered to make the stats appear better than they actually area.
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by WillowOne March 5, 2009 2:01 PM EST
At least they are spending it, to help the public get a grip on trying to recover from the MASSIVE OVER spending we have had in the last 8 years in which it did nothing for the working man..
Posted by jeff-fla at 9:55 AM : Mar 5, 2009

No, they're not. All these democraps are going to do is suck up your money at some overbloated cost run...then they'll legislate a huge sum of money for it...then they'll write the selection criteria for it so that nobody qualifies to use it...then the money will be returned back up to the government and sucked into the black hole, never used for the purpose it was legislated.

You can be naive or just plain dumb, but this has been happening for 44 years to the tune of $44 trillion dollars...it's just a commie game of controlling your dollars.
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by lost_america March 5, 2009 1:31 PM EST
As a former conservative, I trusted our leaders to do right. They however seem to have been more interested in lining their and their friend?s pockets.

They gave lip service to my core beliefs and ignored basic human decency

They have systematically raped and pillaged the middle class workers and now have found even more vulnerable workers in the third world to enslave.

On the issue of globalization, the democrats are no better. They love the poor because that equates to ?votes?. Entitlements are designed and administered to keep the poor ?poor? and again it is the middle class that pays the bills.

I did my job, all that was asked of me, I went the extra mile and my company (ServiceMaster) has made a profit every year. However, we were sold to a private investment group who cares nothing for us or the quality of work we do. So, while we paid the bills and turned a profit we have not made enough to satisfy the secret group of private investors who own us now. This is why my job has been outsourced to India.

Corporate greed is why I and thousands like me have lost our jobs.

My wife has also been laid off. She found a temp job that pays half what she was making. Maybe she is one of those who ?found? work.

We will survive, although we might loose our home.

I do not want socialism, but, If Republicans are getting beat over the head right now, they supplied the club.

It appears the movers and shakers hiding in the shadows of this country own both sides of the isle and that they are going to get ?theirs? no matter what.
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by jeff-fla March 5, 2009 12:55 PM EST
compared on a percentage basis that may not be true,

why would you defend, after the last eight years, AND,


given the current economy, the tax poilicies of a losing


and quite discredited administration like that of GW Bush


and his NEO CON allies?? Are you a CoNservative by any


chance, that would explain it, CONservative's do not require evidence


to make rash and idiotic statements
Posted by pythoncharly at 8:46 AM : Mar 5, 2009

Guess it never occured to you that cutting back on spending is the thing to do when your money coming in is not covering what you're paying out?

It's a concept liberal whacko's just can't seem to understand. You idiots think piling more DEBT on top of DEBT really makes sense!

Did it never occur to you idiots that soon there's going to be no more credit resources left?

In case you didn't notice, China is now demanding more guarantees on their money, like eminent domain in the US in case we don't make good on the loans.

Who are we going to borrow money to pay for the democraps debt on socialist programs next? Russia, Venezuela? Iran?
Posted by WillowOne


At least they are spending it, to help the public get a grip on trying to recover from the MASSIVE OVER spending we have had in the last 8 years in which it did nothing for the working man..
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by WillowOne March 5, 2009 12:11 PM EST
compared on a percentage basis that may not be true,

why would you defend, after the last eight years, AND,


given the current economy, the tax poilicies of a losing


and quite discredited administration like that of GW Bush


and his NEO CON allies?? Are you a CoNservative by any


chance, that would explain it, CONservative's do not require evidence


to make rash and idiotic statements
Posted by pythoncharly at 8:46 AM : Mar 5, 2009

Guess it never occured to you that cutting back on spending is the thing to do when your money coming in is not covering what you're paying out?

It's a concept liberal whacko's just can't seem to understand. You idiots think piling more DEBT on top of DEBT really makes sense!

Did it never occur to you idiots that soon there's going to be no more credit resources left?

In case you didn't notice, China is now demanding more guarantees on their money, like eminent domain in the US in case we don't make good on the loans.

Who are we going to borrow money to pay for the democraps debt on socialist programs next? Russia, Venezuela? Iran?
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by WillowOne March 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST
What happened? Did these 30,000 people finally decide their unemployment vacation was up and they needed to get back to work and support themselves?

Or did they figure out they can't pay bills with the pittance of money the democraps hand down in this socialist benefit?

Maybe they discovered work is a good thing after all.
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by berniew4 March 5, 2009 11:45 AM EST
HOW MUCH TAXES SHOULD GATES AND BUFFET PAY ?? How much is enough ??
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