March 24, 2009 8:35 AM

"Designer Babies" Ethical?

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(CBS)  For years, reproductive specialists have been helping people become parents, even enabling them to choose the sex of their baby.

One fertility doctor is taking things a step further, offering what some are calling "designer babies," as Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman reports.

If you could design your baby's features, would you? According to L.A.'s Fertility Institute, prospective parents can select eye color, hair color and more.

The technology is called pre-implantation genetic diagnosis or PGD. It was created to screen for disease, then used for gender selection. Now this clinic plans to allow parents to select physical traits.

"I would predict that by next year, we will have determined sex with 100 percent certainty on a baby, and we will have determined eye color with about an 80 percent accuracy rate," said fertility specialist Dr. Jeff Steinberg, director of Fertility Institute.

Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg is a pioneer in in-vitro fertilization.

"I think it's very important that we not bury our head in the sand and pretend these advances are not happening," Dr. Steinberg said.

Kirsten and Matt Landon used his clinic to select the sex of their daughter. Choosing other genetic traits intrigues them.

"I would have considered trait selection as an option, but not necessarily have gone with it," Matt Landon said.

A recent U.S. survey suggests most people support the notion of building a better baby when it comes to eliminating serious diseases. But Dr. Steinberg says using technology for cosmetic reasons shouldn't scare people away.

"Of course, once I've got this science, am I not to provide this to my patients? I'm a physician. I want to provide everything science gives me to my patients," Dr. Steinberg said.

"But is that a good thing?" Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez asked Dr. Arthur Caplan, Ph.D, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania.

"Let me quote Dr. Steinberg. He just said he predicts we will have determined sex with 100 percent accuracy and eye color with 80 percent accuracy in the next year. Does that give you pause at all?" Rodriguez asked.

"It does. I think he's wrong. I don't think we're going to get to eye color and hair color and freckles for a couple more years. But he's right in principle. We're headed that way. It is going to be possible to pick traits, not because of diseases or avoiding dysfunction, but because somebody has a taste for a particular child or a preference for a particular child," Dr. Caplan said.

"He says that if it is available, why not offer it to his patients? He says he has the obligation as a doctor to do so. Do you agree with that?" Rodriguez asked.

"I disagree completely. There are really three things to think about. One is, when you move away from diseases, who's to say what's the better trait? Is it better to be red-headed than it is to be brown-haired? Is it better to have freckles or not? Those sorts of things are subjective and in some ways driven by our culture," Caplan said.

"Secondly, you're going to have the rich using these technologies, and that's going to advantage them further. It's not going to be something the poor get to do. Lastly, you've got a problem here, why are doctors in this business at all? He said (Dr. Jeff Steinberg), 'I have to serve my patients,' but is this just a cash business where you'd say, you know, 'I want a child with short arms. I want a kid with athletic ability.' Okay. Well, we'll do that. Is everything and anything for sale at the fertility clinic?" Dr. Caplan asked.

The case of Nadya Suleman, who had octuplets, has raised so many debates like this. The doctor who implanted six embryos is being criticized. A lot of people say there should be a law prohibiting that, Rodriguez pointed out.

"Do you think there should be laws prohibiting this?" she asked.

"Absolutely. And the time to start this discussion is right now. For example, I don't think you should get any of these traits offered to you without some counseling so you can think about, is that important to me? Is this really going to make that much difference?" Caplan said.

This can lead to false expectations on children, he explained. The parents may pick a child to be smart, and he or she doesn't succeed, then they become upset because they invested money and didn't get what they want.

"We need more oversight of this industry, and I think this will turn out to be one of the biggest issues in the next 10, 15 years, the extent to which we design our babies and who's going to be able to call the shots, if you will, on whether the technology gets used to do it," Caplan said.

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by Irby32 December 6, 2011 11:50 AM EST
Getting desired traits? Bring it on! Technology IS pretty good now...we're lucky to live in this time
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by bhill2014 April 29, 2011 10:31 PM EDT
There is something that everyone who disagrees with designer babies needs to understand. i may only be 15 years old but i am smart enough to see that using the term ethicaly indeesent is just a way of saying that im scared of what might happen. you are worried that people will try to create a perfect race. well dont you think that this is just slightly stupid. i dont have any kids but i know when i do then i dont want to bring them into a world were they are discriminated against just because of what they look like. if ther is a way that i can prevent my child from having to grow up with a disease like cerbrial paulsy or a disorder that causes them to do things that they cant control. then i will do all that is within my power to prevent that from happening to him. i have a long history of heart disease and obiesedy in my family and if i can keep my child from going through what i have to now in highschool then i will i fell very strongly about this topic and i think that they should offer genetic modifications as an option to be chosen by the parents and not other people who will never know the child of family and who dont think about all the people theyd be hurting by preventing the modifications.
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by dmin67 May 19, 2011 9:58 AM EDT
Hey retard! You mispelled ethically and indecent... You're stupid, and I want to kill you.. I'm just saying, you can't prove a point about you being intellegent by mispelling words. I hate you.
by artsyy November 16, 2009 4:44 PM EST
Who are we to decide what our babies look like though? That might cause the parents to have higher expectations & what if then things turned out differently after paying all that money to make sure your child looked like this or acted like that?! I think the PGD used to detect genetic diseases is a great technological advance, but choosing traits may be taking it too far. I disagree about this being the same as choosing a life partner. Looks are definately a big factor when choosing a mate...and everyone likes different kinds of people. But looks are not All that matters when choosing a partner by any means. Obviously, that partner will not look the same forever, but we dont sit around wondering if they will not be as attractive when they are 90!? Because we love them anyways- for who they are. As far as a child goes... we should accept them for who they are UNIQUELY created to be & not try to make them be something that WE want them to be. Also, we have yet to see this, but in 20 or so years from now, what are those "designer babies" going to think of this process that their parents took part in before they were born? It just raises a lot of issues.

I am currently writing an Ethics paper on this for nursing school. So thank you to those who have submitted opinions.. this has helped me see both sides of the issue.
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by jqflack April 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT
I am writing a similar paper for an ethics class in med school. I would love to read your paper as I have hit a stalemate in my argument diagramming. If you don't mind me using your paper for ideas send it to me via email. jqflack@ncsu.edu Thanks, best of luck! -Josh
by senioritam March 26, 2009 12:51 AM EDT
It's private reproductive rights, in my opinion. Many people have been saying that it will lead to another wave of eugenics, but that's not the case. This is individual people making choices, and at most world hair color populations that are already very rare, like blonde or red or green eyes, will rise by at most 1-2%, which is not even like anything. Also, cosmetic appearances don't affect inner attributes, like innate quickness at learning, or muscle development, so the child will have no advantages for being of a certain look. So, it really doesn't matter int he end. Most importantly, people are allowed to choose spouses who look very different from themselves, which means their children will also do so, so what is wrong with a technology that essentially does the same cosmetic thing, but just with more certainty? In other words, isn't it people's choice what looks they're attracted to? Same with the children, we might see choosing some more recessive genes, but as they are not linked to bad traits (like you can't say that all redheads lack intelligence or something), so it doesn't matter. Like choosing a partner, choosing the child's hair or eye color is the same, just with a little more, not even 100% for sure, certainness, so it's fine as it's always been happening.
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by willfrehley March 22, 2009 5:39 PM EDT
Some people make more money, because their innate character traits allow them to get better jobs. If you're born resilient, able to defer gratification, energetic, charismatic, ambitious, and intelligent, chances are you'll earn a lot more money than people without those traits. Fewer than 30% of adults over age 25 have a college degree. So let's be careful what precedent we set. Once the genes are known for the traits I just mentioned, parents will want to select their children's genes, so they too can complete college and find a lucrative career. (As I describe in my book, "Leadership is Innate")
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by rorosmomo March 20, 2009 5:34 PM EDT
Designer babies?and they think abortion should be illegal? Not only is this wrong but it?s very selfish. There are thousands of beautiful and smart babies you can choose from at your local orphanages.
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by hairclippy March 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST
Yeah, we can buy [b][url=http://www.hairclippy.com/]baby hair bands[/url][/b] already if we know that the baby is a girl but it is dangerous. Babies are god's gift, so like a gift we don't know what it is until we finally receive and open it. The thrill of anticipating the baby's gender will be gone.
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by hairclippy March 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST
Yeah, we can buy <a href="http://www.hairclippy.com/" title="baby hair bands">baby hair bands</a> already if we know that the baby is a girl but isn't the procedure dangerous? Babies are god's gift, so like a gift we don't know what it is until we finally receive and open it. The thrill of anticipating the baby's gender will be gone.
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by mariner88 March 6, 2009 5:40 AM EST
Isn't it one thing for your government to choose your child's characteristics and you choosing them yourself? Yes, the Nazis followed up on some ideas of selecting officially desirable traits, and this would be bad, I believe. But why not allow parents -albeit those who have the money, as it would be a private choice - to do this? They already do anyway; when choosing a partner, surely the outcome of a pregnancy enters their minds. How would our child look? You cannot tell me people don't consider this when dating. It goes one step further. And other traits like intelligence would be most welcome in this world.
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by mariner88 March 6, 2009 5:21 AM EST
It's a welcome option. I mean when you consider that attractive people are treated better from Day One of their lives, I'd want this for my children. It opens up doors. As for the argument that only monied people could access it, this is true of everything in life and is illogical argument. God not only grants you life, but the ability to create and change and thrive. At least, that's how I see it. If we MUST accept our babies as they are, why then are we not so open to partners? Why don't we accept people for who they are but gossip about faults? It is natural to want to seek the best, even if we don't want to admit it. We just have different ideas about what's best.
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