Octuplets Mom Said To Nix Free Care Offer

Gloria Allred, Lawyer For Group That Offered To Care For All 14 Of Her Kids, Says The Mom Said No

(CBS)  The mother of the octuplets born a month ago has rejected a group's offer to care for all 14 of her children round-the-clock, for free, and in one home, according to the attorney representing the group.

"She did not accept our offer," Gloria Allred told co-anchor Harry Smith on The Early Show Friday. " ... There would have been no burden on the taxpayers. Instead now, it may be that the taxpayers are going to have to foot the bill for all of this."

Angels in Waiting was estimating that such care would cost $130,000 a month.

Angels in Waiting, Allred told Smith, has "wonderful pediatric intensive care nurses who are very experienced in dealing with medically fragile, at-risk infants. They would have provided 24/7 care, along with developmental specialists, early intervention professionals, and wraparound services for an individualized care for all of these babies."

Allred filed a complaint with the Los Angeles County Department of Child and Family Services, asking that it look into whether, as Allred put it, "the babies would be endangered if they were in the care and custody of Nadya."

Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman points out that Suleman "reportedly told TV's Dr. Phil McGraw she's worried about custody. Dr. Phil told the Los Angeles Times, 'unless and until she has a better living arrangement, they are not likely to release the children to her.'

"Kaiser Permanente wouldn't confirm that," Kauffman continued, "but, on Thursday, they did provide an update on the octuplets' health." According to the statement, all are off intravenous feeding and breathing fine.

[ReginaFilangee]

"Her love for her existing kids should have been the thing that stopped her from having more. Her love and concern for her existing kids should have been stronger than her obsession to have more."---posted by meredith44

BRAVO and STANDING OVATION!!!!!

[ReginaFilangee]

Oh, and I am not "angry" at Nadya....I'm disgusted by her. Big difference.

[ReginaFilangee]

"It is very obvious that she is very in touch with the Bible and her faith."

Many of her actions would indicate otherwise, however.

Nadya's own words and actions are merely serving to even further solidify the mounting evidence that she is not capable of psychologically, physically, or financially providing any type of decent home life for these children where they can even survive without permanent damage, least of all one where they can thrive and flourish. She is mentally disturbed in a serious way. In addition, she has a HISTORY of postpartum depression as well as suicidal tendencies. No one can "drive" anyone else to suicide. It's something that comes from WITHIN oneself. Just because she is emotionally fragile doesn't mean she gets a free pass for showing such despicable disregard for the sanctity of life.

I don't think foster care is the answer....because that system is broken. There's only one answer when one puts what's best for the children as the first and foremost concern.

I can't even make myself care anymore whether or not Nadya receives treatment for her mental illness....since she has repeatedly shunned all attempts for anyone to help her in that capacity. All I care about is that those tiny lives who are already suffering (at the hand of their own mother, no less!!) be rescued from her custody and placed into homes where they can experience what true parental love is.
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Perhaps THAT is what is God's will....and what could be referenced by saying, "God will never give you more than you can handle."

It's Nadya's children that MY heart goes out to....I've long given up on Nadya, since she keeps showing that she doesn't want to help herself.

[meredith44]

starrbabywyant you are WAY out of line...

You are misled..there are plenty of Christian mothers who are AGAINST what Nayda has done. I am one of them. I love the Lord and I love children. You, like many Nayda supporters are confusing the real issues, hiding behind religion and her so called "love" for children.

People are angry and while its not right to call her names or wish her harm, I believe that folks do have the right to be angry/disappointed in a system that would allow a woman to believe that she can profit from something like this. The same mentallity that allows others to live off of welfare and recieve a free ride for most of thier life is the same mentality we see being played out in Nayda. Like I said in another post of mine, she may not be getting traditional welfare, but her mentality is the same. And for your information, the same people that can see through what Nayda is doing are the same people that ARE tired of the sort of people that purposefully live off the system. So your suggestion that we look at others is mute, because we are tired of ALL those that dont feel they should have to pull their own weight in this society. Welfare was meant to be a temporary thing, but sadly many have made it a way of life. People like that upset me, just as Nayda upsets me... we have not singled her out.

And please dont bring up Jon and Kate plus 8, or the Duggars in Arkansas. I live in Arkansas and believe me, there are folks in this state who ARE NOT fond of their choices. And I am NOT a fan of Jon and Kate plus 8, BUT in both of those situations you have two people that were self sufficient with or without the TV shows. Therin lies the difference. Nayda has not been self sufficient for years and at 33 depends on someone else to keep a roof over her head, so she had no business taking that money and selfishly using it to have more children. And please, for goodness sake, STOP going on and on about everything she did being justified by the fact that she loves children. Her so called love is actually an obsession that has clouded her judgement. Her love for her existing kids should have been the thing that stopped her from having more. Her love and concern for her existing kids should have been stronger than her obsession to have more. She either loves kids or loves "having them". or being pregnant. It seems to me that she loves being pregnant or she would not have continued to seek fertility treatments to give her what she already had...6 beautiful children to love.

I dont feel she should have had an abortion, I feel she should never have gotten pregnant again in the first place.

Sometimes the very thing you think you are doing out of love can be the very thing that harms those you claim to love. But you are so busy hiding behind religion that you cant see that. Please stop explaining away her behavior by attempting to quote the Bible or what you think God wants. If she was so "in tune with the Bible and her faith" then she probably should have stayed married and then had all of those kids, or at least married their daddy. According to Angela Suleman, the kids daddy wanted to marry her but Nayda refused, stating that she wanted to do everything on her own. Everything except pay her own bills and feed and clothe them that is...

(And I am not trying to make a negative comment towards single parents and how being married is being in tune with the Bible, I was just making a point about how hypocritical it is to justify Nayda's behavior as being in tune with the Bible and her faith when she has done so many other things that are in direct contrast to its teachings.)

Nayda behavior is almost like those who have compulsive behaviors of hording animals or clutter. They claim to love animals and they feel they do what they do in order to protect them. They take in stray after stray, convinced that their love for the animals will save them. They want to give them a home and take them off of the streets, but before long the home the have given them is overrun with so many animals they cant possbily meet the needs of them all and the place becomes a health hazzard to the very animals they were trying to save and "love". Those that are obsessed with this often are forced to give up the animals and some are charged with abuse.
Now I am not saying I hope Nayda will have her kids taken away. I for one am hoping that she starts making the right decisions to be able to keep her kids, but when you here about some of the decisions she is making its hard to feel that she should keep them. It would be heartbreaking for any mother to lose custody of her kids, but she needs to start making the decisions to support that she can keep them
Give her help for the kids...YES, but allow her to profit from thier birth..NO NO and NO! That would be rewarding her for her irresponsiblity and reinforceing her obsession for attention and hording behavior.

[starrbabywyant]

If you have so much hatred, take it out on the illegals that are here on welfare and I mean every bit of welfare they can get like food stamps, cash assistance, medi-cal, section 8 housing and don't forget the wonderful WIC program. Ok go after those people. maybe you all rationalize she is just so horrible for loving children and not wanting to destroy true human lifes. It is very obvious that she is very in touch with the Bible and her faith. Which as a country that is supposedly under God, I can't say that I see that here. You all should be ashamed of yourselves ! I don't see anything wrong with her except for the fact that she is very puzzled and scared of being in the spot light and wondering how to keep her faith, when the nation has turned on her because of her following the law of the lord! I challenge all of you to just pick up your Bible and read where it says.. "God will never give you more than you can handle" and.... "If he brought you to it, He will bring you through it" All children are gifts from God and should be treated accordingly! They are blessings. It is not an awful thing to want to have 7 or 8 children, Her ONLY mistake was the timing. You Nor I or anyone else for that matter have the right to tell someone when to stop having children. I can tell that she has an enormous amount of love for children and parenting her children. The only thing that I would say to her is, Why didn't she just wait til she was done with her schooling first and save more money and then have the procedure done again but it didnt happen that way and it is a very good thing that she has the very strong faith that she has and is able to pull through this entire mess you guys are all putting her through on top of all she is having to think about and go through already. Its a miracle you people have not driven her to suicide. You people are cruel and the things you say are absolutely crazy and you people are the ones who truly need to be evaluated and I would absolutely trust my children with Nadya before I would let anyone of you overly angry and cruel name0 calling people near my kids. I work hard everyday. I am an Rph and I am not complaining about allowing for my tax dollars to help her and her children. I am not defined by Greed and we should all as a nation under GOD (If we can still say that) help eachother and those in need, and that is how to be a better country! And just also keep this in mind. The media is not just outside your door exploiting you and if they were I am sure you would not look to good either. The media has a way with doing that to even the most innocent of people. Let this poor woman enjoy what she loves and that is her children and that IS what is the most Important thing that you can give a child. Putting them in a foster home and taking these children and seperating them is just not the solution. They are not going to get the TRUE love from a foster family ( that is very rare) Look at the statistics on children and adults who are and were raised in foster homes and just see what kind of direction their lives have taken as foster kids! They belong with their Mother unless she fails, but you guys are just not even giving her a chance and if anyone is making her go crazy or seem unstable, I seriously doubt it is her children that are the cause of that . I can bet that it is the Media and everything that comes with it and that is what is causing her to appear unstable. I think I would too. Not knowing what to say or how to phrase her words that can possibly be twisted and taken completely the wrong way that it was meant to be portrayed. All I ask is that this country stick together and come united and help this mother out and let her mind be free to take care of her precious babies. You guys have to realize that she does not need this extra stress she does need all of her energy to care for her brand new babies and dont take these special moments away from her. This is her bonding time with her babies and she does not need to deal with all of this. Not to mention that it could be very likely that she could get or may already be experiencing post partum depression that takes place after giving birth and can make someone suicidal and I sure hope Nobody wants that to happen or wants that on their shoulders. I am sorry if this was extremely long but my heart truly goes out to her and her family. and I think that enough is enough and its time to let her be. It is not our place to judge her or to get involved like that in a bad way as long as her children are eating and growing and going to school and happy and not abused physically, sexually and emotionally than we just need to BUTT OUT!! I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone . I just am a woman who believes what she believes and who shares the same faith as she does and I do not for a second think she deserves this. I want peace within our nation. PLEASE!!!!

[ReginaFilangee]

Apparently, she's now trying to sell the video (only about 5 minutes long, shot by a friend with her consent) of the births for seven figures.....sheesh!!!! When she thought of the clumps of cells in the petri dish, she didn't see "her children".....she saw dollar signs in her eyes.

[andie52]

Octo-Mom Daily Diary: "Since When Is It A Crime To Call 911?"

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/03/octomom-daily-diary-since-when-is-it-a-crime-to-call-911.php

[ReginaFilangee]

First of all, you've got that backwards. The offer was on the table first.

Second of all, if Nadya cannot provide a (safe and sanitary) roof over her children's heads, healthy food, clothing, emotional and physical care, AND individualized attention for them all, but especially the ones with disabilities......then she should do the most loving thing any mother CAN do: put them up for adoption by a family who can give them those basic necessities of life when she is unable to do so herself.

The AIW offer would have been a way for her to avoid that. IF she were mentally stable enough, there would be no threat of them ever taking her children. It's because she's NOT mentally stable that she had a very real concern that her children would be removed from her custody once they observed her up close and personally 24/7. (Note: The AIW have no authority to do that, but their testimony would carry a lot of weight with CPS.)

Again, if Nadya were sane, she'd have nothing to worry about by accepting the generous offer of this group. (The fact she turned it down could, in fact, be construed as evidence against her.)

[lilathe]

If a total stranger had called CPS on you and tried to have your children taken away from you without ever having even met you or your children.................... would YOU take her up on her offer to "take complete care of YOUR children?"
I think anything would be better than taking this nut up on her offer.

[andie52]

ET online has some new videos

They give great insight into her dysfunctional personality and mental issues. She has one that says she is receiving counseling that I didn?t watch so I don?t know what kind of counseling she is receiving. But I feel this is just a band aid to make it seem that she will be capable of taking care of her children and the preemies.

If she didn?t authorize the ?begging? web site then I?d like to know where the donations are going. If you observe the children it?s not hard to tell that they are craving attention and must be very stressed out living in that small house crowded with expensive toys.

I don?t put much stock in what Nadya says since she has proven herself to be a fabricator and manipulator. . She is obviously addicted to the being in the limelight and I don?t see that ending until the publicity stops. If ever.
You can see the video interview here:

http://www.etonline.com/

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