March 1, 2010 8:34 AM

The Debate On Lowering The Drinking Age

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(CBS)  Last fall, a group of over 100 college presidents - including the heads of Dartmouth, Virginia Tech and Duke - signed a declaration stating that the 21-year-old drinking age is not working, and fireworks went off.

But the college presidents got what they wanted: a national debate about the drinking age.

When the age was raised to 21 in the mid-1980s, the goal was to reduce highway fatalities. But everyone knows that the 21 age limit hasn't stopped minors from drinking.

And now some experts believe it's actually contributing to an increase in extreme drinking.

This is what the former president of Middlebury College in Vermont, John McCardell, believes and it's why he started the movement dedicated to lowering the age back to 18. It may seem counterintuitive, but he argues that lowering the age will make kids safer.



It's like the old days of prohibition: from the suburbs to college campuses to inner cities, kids find ways to get around the 21 year old limit. As McCardell puts it, it's so widespread, it's the norm.

"This law has been an abysmal failure," McCardell told 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl. "It hasn't reduced or eliminated drinking. It has simply driven it underground, behind closed doors, into the most risky and least manageable of settings."

Like basements, fraternity houses and locked dorm rooms, where kids go to hide from the law and from adults, including parents, who might teach them some moderation.

McCardell says the law has created a dangerous culture of irresponsible and reckless behavior, unsupervised binge and extreme drinking, like something called "Six in Ten" - downing six cups of beer in ten seconds, kids trying to perfect the art of getting drunk as fast as possible by playing drinking games.

And pre-loading - downing as much of the forbidden fruit as possible before going out in order to avoid getting caught drinking in public.

"It's bad law in that it is unwork[able]. It's bad social policy…," McCardell said.

Asked if it is unworkable or people just don't enforce it, McCardell told Stahl, "The issue of enforceability is present. But the fact is it is so regularly and routinely avoided, that enforcement results in two arrests or convictions for every thousand violations."

Mark Beckner, the chief of police in Boulder, Colo. - a college town - deals with underage drinking every day. "We're not in a situation where we can stop it. The best we can do is try to contain it," he told Stahl.

"So you're basically telling us that you simply can't enforce the law. They are drinking and you cannot enforce it," Stahl remarked.

"Well, we do enforce it," Chief Beckner replied. "But what we're seeing is it's not being effective."

Beckner has tried many different kinds of enforcement techniques over the years, including strict crack-downs.

"We'd find a party where we know there's underage drinking. We would seal the house. Surround the house with officers and we would write every single underage person coming out of that house. We wrote hundreds and hundreds of tickets those years. All we did is we pushed it further underground," Beckner told Stahl.



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by MaggieMendoza December 16, 2011 3:09 AM EST
A parent is legally responsible for their child until the age of 18 for the most part. Ultimately they want is best for their child, yet sometimes, what is best for them is not always as clear as it could be. Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) is an organization whose goal is to help reduce drunk driving fatalities. In order to accomplish this goal, they are adamant about maintaining the minimum legal drinking age at 21.

In response to MADD and their supporters mainly consisting of mothers, I would like to address the fact that as a supporter of lowering the drinking age, I do not condone any illegal behavior such as driving under the influence. As mother's the children's safety is a priority. Lowering the minimum legal drinking age will save lives because it will allow a big percentage of adolescent binge drinkers to ask for help when they need it. Sometimes underage binge drinkers fear calling their parents for help. To avoid punishment for their behavior, instead of calling their parents to provide a ride for them when they needed the most they hold back. Holding back can only lead them to rely driving themselves home, having other "buzz" drivers drive them, or spend the night at someone else's home. The act of the adolescents not calling their parents for help is what pushes people to drive under the influence and cause accidents.
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by stephrobinson December 14, 2011 4:21 PM EST
This is a tragedy. Obviously, the parent involved didn't know their child or his foolish 21- yr.old friends and connections very well. They didn't call 911 because they knew he was dead or dying. This is the main reason behind why these "friends" didn't call. Something more should be done to crack down on college binges and high school parties. I blame the parents and our society. Alcohol abuse is a tragedy and excessive drinking shouldn't be acceptable at any age, even 21. They should raise the drinking age to 25 and crack down on any idiot who shares with clueless teenagers. Just because you turn 18 doesn't mean you are an adult.
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by erzkarlaspern December 1, 2011 10:54 PM EST
If people are Adults at 18 and can vote and serve their country in the military at the risk of their lives, why do we make Odd little laws to show how righteous we are and move around the Adult age? If people are adults at 18, then give them the Rights of Adults. For me, that includes alcohol, tobacco, marijuana (which causes fewer problems than the other two, and I would say make prostitution lega, but restrict it to private enclosed places such as clubs, massage parlors, strip joints, and enforce Health rules and Taxes. We are so Silly in this country always trying to control people's lives and thoughts. I'm a Christian and I think that our Civil Laws should not constrict people to Christian rules. If people are bent on ruining their health, that is their problem. If they cause danger to others by getting high on alcohol or marijuana, then they will be handled by the Law. 18 is ADULT with All the Rights of Adults..!
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by justcommonsense2me November 12, 2011 10:24 AM EST
I know this is really late, but two interesting thoughts.

First, I would think highway deaths are multiple fatalities caused by one per, compared to underage drinking where the individual is typically affecting only themselves (note, I realize peer pressure can be involved, but at least there is the choice). The current law (almost entirely) prevents individuals from ruining lives of others.

Second, why not try the licensing with the current age limit and see where it goes. Start it as a college requirement. I realize that restricting drinking that NOONE could drink without a license might be a little "prohibition-like", but perhaps someone with better "society-as-a-whole skils" might have an idea.

I definitely still disagree with lowering the age so easily without further restrictions of some type. Only in establishments with sobriety check before leaving? Install breath-a-lyzer ignition systems? Who knows....
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by jcam60 November 9, 2011 11:22 PM EST
Great Article! I really agree with lowering the age to 18 because of all the arguments made, such as.. If you are under 21 you can choose who runs this country, you can drive a automobile, you can smoke cigarettes/chew tobacco, and you can go over seas and get killed for this country, but you can not have a drink of alcohol? However, I think that the license stated at the end of this article is actually a great idea. When an 18 year old gets this license I feel that they would be more responsible with their drinking, (I would anyway), and that they know they will lose it if they violate the rules of the license. Who knows what will happen, but this was a very good article and will certainly help me with my upcoming research paper on lowering the drinking age!
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by SteezyMe February 7, 2012 8:01 PM EST
"...but this was a very good article and will certainly help me with my upcoming research paper on lowering the drinking age!" - hahaha i'm with you there!!
by dresia November 3, 2011 11:08 AM EDT
Kids, find ways to get around the 21 year old limit I must agree. But what difference does it make anymore, there are people over the age limit driving drunk so either way, we still come out a loser.
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by cheechweech July 11, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
The Gordie Bailey-Lanahan family can do the most good for college kids and their families by not supporting underaged drinking. In this article as well as the one in the Denver Post, they speak of Gordie being allowed to drink at home and at parties - a teenaged boy! I don't know the dynamics of the family, but they knew he was developing a pattern of alcohol usage and did nothing about it!! I think this is the biggest message that they can send... I regret their loss but if they had not created a supportive culture of underaged drinking, it is likely that Gordie would be around today.
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by braidbunch July 4, 2011 8:34 PM EDT
When President Obama was 18, in Hawaii, the drinking age was 18. Hawaii only changed it to 21 when Obama was 22. I know because I lived in Hawaii at the same time and I'm a year younger than Obama.
I firmly believe that the drinking age should be 18.
We should have just one "ADULT AGE" for the entire U.S. and that should apply to drinking, driving, military, marriage, school, etc.
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by JusWondering January 30, 2012 4:30 PM EST
Amazing! 20 something years ago, Hawaii, new who Obama was, and staled a law just for his sake... Incredible!!!! Maybe Hawaii, new you also, and changed the law only to pee you off!
by JusWondering January 30, 2012 4:34 PM EST
Knew, Knew, Knew... See what early drinking can do!!!
by queenofclubs April 28, 2011 2:25 PM EDT
I remember how the attitude was back in the 70s. If you're old enough to die in Viet Nam, you're old enough to have a beer. In Ohio, where I'm originally from it was legal to have 3.2 beer at age 18, and Camp Pendleton allowed 18 y/os to drink on base. It wasn't that big of a problem. It's bringing the age back up to 21 that seems to have encouraged more of the so-called "binge" drinking...because people are attracted to what's forbidden.
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by shem_78 January 7, 2011 6:55 PM EST
It's amazing to me that MADD doesn't recognize that the real problem is not underage drinking but "Drunk Driving," two of the words in their own acronym.
As Americans we have designed our cities completely around the automobile such that alternative forms of transportation are almost non-existent. Then we hand the car keys to our kids almost as soon as they can reach the pedals. They are taught that the only way to get around in American is by car, and we enlist them in the transportation monopoly a full five years before they are allowed to drink. Why then are we surprised when people drink and drive? Hello, there are no other transportation alternatives to the car, how else are people supposed to get to and from the bars and clubs?

What we should be doing is allowing them to drink at 18 and giving them the car keys when they're 20 or 21...after they've already learned how to get to those bars and clubs without a car.
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