LOS ANGELES, Feb. 12, 2009

Big Backlash Hits Octuplets Mom

CBS Evening News: Anger Growing Over How Much Taxpayers Will Fund Family With 14 Kids

  • This image provided by NBC shows Nadya Suleman, left, speaking with Ann Curry in New York.

    This image provided by NBC shows Nadya Suleman, left, speaking with Ann Curry in New York.  (AP Photo/Paul Drinkwater, NBC)

  • Photo Essay The Stork Club

    Their babies are born with silver spoons in their mouths and stars in their eyes.

(CBS)  Police in Los Angeles said today they're investigating death threats against Nadya Suleman, the mother of the octuplets. There's a growing backlash against her from people who resent that she's now given birth to 14 children through in-vitro fertilization while accepting public assistance to raise them. CBS News correspondent Sandra Hughes reports.



Nadya Suleman's octuplets are thriving, but anger is growing about how much it will cost to care for them. Taxpayers could have to pay for some of her hospital costs, which could run up to $1 million.

"We're doing a bailout and I think it's just outrageous," said Sherrie Rodriguez.

A family Web site was created to solicit outside donations. But they're also getting death threats, said her publicist in a radio interview.

"They refer to ripping out her uterus to running over her with automobiles or trucks," said publicist Michael Furtney on KNX radio.

Suleman now admits she gets $490 in food stamps and federal assistance for her three disabled children every month. She's already $50,000 in debt from student loans.

"I so look forward to the day when I'm not getting any kind of help with food stamps, which I believe will end right when I graduate," she said.

Suleman says she had six fertilized embryos implanted for each of her pregnancies. That's far more than professional guidelines, recommending no more than two for a woman younger than 35.

The fertility doctor who she says performed all the in-vitro fertilizations for her 14 children, Dr. Michael Kamrava, isn't talking.

Today there were reports he did in-vitro fertilization on a 49-year old woman now pregnant with quadruplets.

In the past decade, the percentage of births involving triplets or more has actually declined by five percent.

"As the IVF laboratory conditions have improved and our ability to select the proper embryos has improved, we have been able to transfer fewer embryos and still have higher pregnancy rates," said Dr. Karine Chung of USC.

Especially in California, with the country's highest concentration of fertility doctors, some say there is pressure on doctors to implant multiples to inflate their statistics.

Experts say America needs legal restrictions, like some European countries have.

"I really do think we need laws setting limits on the number of embryos implanted," said law professor Lori Andrews.

Chung added: "The difficult part on putting restrictions on the number of embryos transferred is that it will limit the ability of the physician and the couple to individualize the care."

But it's how to care for these 14 children that has so many concerned right now.


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by toolmangler-2009 February 15, 2009 8:12 PM EST
Littering is for animals, women should never ''Litter''.
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by andie52 February 15, 2009 8:10 PM EST
copy and paste this into any search engine; lots to read about Nadya Suleman. if you support her and her actions you may change your mind after reading all of this info:


2009/02/who-should-and-will-pay.html

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by yongamerica February 15, 2009 6:53 PM EST
The best thing for this situation is for child services to intervene. Her children should be placed up for adoption so they''ll no longer be exploited and have parents that can focus on them and not 13 other siblings.

This woman needs intensive psychiatric care.
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by ellekat February 15, 2009 5:37 PM EST
The people who are criticizing her are shameful! My mother was at a meeting with a bunch of students from Vietnam. All the Americans were criticizing this mother and when they asked the Vietnamese students what they thought they said, "Aren''t people free in America?". Some people nowadays seem to want mandatory abortions for women with a lot of children. Maybe you don''t approve of what this lady did, but you should not be hateful when expressing your opinion.
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by deadmaverick February 15, 2009 1:16 PM EST
its a shame that someone can make a hobby out of having children at taxpayers expense...this woman needs to have her head examined
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by andie52 February 15, 2009 11:27 AM EST
%u201CDespite having no job, Nadya can afford to pay a nanny around $500 a week to look after the older kids Monday through Friday. %u201CShe works overtime and doesn%u2019t ask for more money. She does 12-hour days,%u201D

Not that I really believe anything that comes out of that woman%u2019s cosmetically enhanced blubber lips but it makes interesting reading in the check out line of the grocery store. It%u2019s unfortunate that she is allowed to continue to ask for donations from her cutesy website when she is out buying expensive video games. How someone as mentally ill could work her way through the system as she has amazes me.

I hope an agency steps in and takes those babies away and then prosecutes her and her so called fertility specialist for fraud%u2026

She may say she%u2019s done having children but it%u2019s likely she may try this stunt again. I guess the taxpayers in California have deep pockets as well as the government.
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by gosukabug February 15, 2009 3:40 AM EST
Let the churches which promote irresponsible breeding of gross amounts of children step up to the plate and take responsibility of their welfare. This *** is NOT what I pay taxes for!
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by Meg003 February 15, 2009 2:41 AM EST
What is troubling to me is to see our government continue to support irresponsible child-bearing. The stimulus bill gives poor parents of three or more children special financial benefits.

Those children are in need, but it is a shame that poor parents who chose sterilization after two babies are not given special financial benefits for acting responsibly.
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by Meg003 February 15, 2009 2:37 AM EST
Kief25

I''m not saying they are not out there, but I have NEVER heard a minister who supported in-vitro fertilization. Several ministers I know do support adoption, but not artificial insemination or in-vitro fertilization.
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by mytoosense February 14, 2009 9:28 PM EST
Having any children in todays world is a mildly selfish act.

Replace the word "mildly" with "extremely" concerning this women.
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by kief35 February 14, 2009 6:06 PM EST
It is so obvious why she had these kids. She is a religious fanatic. She named all her kids after biblical names and said she%u2019s not worried about how support them. She said %u201CGod will help her find a way.%u201D Where are all religious nuts that will deny evolution & natural selection but will go out and have In vitro fertilization and call it a miracle? Have the preacher down the road support her & all those kids. He%u2019s the one filling gullible people like her with *** like %u201Cwith god anything is possible%u201D. Well let god feed all those kids. I really feel sorry for those kids, they haven%u2019t got a chance. Where are the hypocrites that don%u2019t believe in abortion, but cry that there taxes will now have to support these kid. Where the religious zealots that don%u2019t believe in birth control and every life is precious. Every forum I read, people are out raged at this woman action. No one can talk bad about religion because the boogie man will send you to hell. They cherry pick region to fit their selfish needs. When will we (the human race) work on the quality of life & not quantity of it? Probably never.
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by barbaram99 February 14, 2009 5:56 PM EST
i am a lay person .Stop at 2 children. No this woman is not the only one. We don''t need big families. She has a web site. How nice. Did they give her a really nice system too. I am happy with my old one. It works. Any way why 14 with no home,basics,. Grandmum can''t do this really. No sane person could. Birth control. Churches need to allow birth control.
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by honestabe8 February 14, 2009 3:02 PM EST
She should face criticism. She brought a whole bunch of kids into the world that she could not possibly take care of financially (or otherwise, it would so seem). So, the taxpayers have to.
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by barbaram99 February 14, 2009 2:58 PM EST
I am a sp needs adult. Czymeat went to scool with my my sister and brother. They lived at the Locke home..we wewre sep as young children. Debby and Phil Jr. my late foster mum told me this over and over and I thank her for it.The only thing she said to me.*Barbara ye have no business to bring a child in to the world ye can''t care for,give a home to,give the basics for.Don''t have them*. It may sould cold but it stepping up to the plate and not breeding. I am childless. At is not selfish to not have children yer can''t aford. Girls are baby crazy. They want to be like Mumma.Teen age girls need to reached so they don''t breed. They need to grow up.A baby not the answer.I later meant my birth Mum..I have never seen her face. I am legally blind. Any way I told No grand kids by me. She told me she was too young when she had me,Debby and Phil Jr. I told her I know that. At 17 she could not give me the care I need as a multi handicapped child born too early. Mum hated me as I was born with sp.needs. Debby helped me walk as I could not till 2. I am 54.
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by rsmik February 14, 2009 1:41 PM EST
As long as our society maintains a system that pays certain people in certain situations to reproduce, we will always have systemic abuse.
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by gosukabug February 14, 2009 1:23 PM EST
Another fine candidate for "Single Mother of the Year." Who takes the breeders cup this year? Will it be the ''murdering party mom'' Caycee Anthony? Perhaps it''ll be the ''bedoine breeder baby factory'' of California Nadya Suleman who''s proven she can''t care for one child, let alone 14! Let''s not forget the 17 ''Future Fishwives of Gloucester High School'' who decided no education is complete without bringing unwanted snot goblins into the world while thier parents and the public pick up the tab. Last and maybe least is the ''Nutjob from New York who decided single motherdom might not be for her and drowned her 3 *** before attempting suicide. Remember "girls", IF YOU CAN''T FEED ''EM, DON''T BREED ''EM!!!
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by andie52 February 14, 2009 12:25 PM EST
harbinger09 if you have time look at the info on this website

You have to copy and paste .

Trials & Tribulations
Sprocket & Company In Depth, True Crime Reporting


http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/search?q=octo+mom
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by harbinger09 February 14, 2009 12:20 PM EST
Did this woman and her Dr. break any laws? None known.


Posted by panhandlpete at 09:02 AM : Feb 14, 2009


If she wilfully and deliberately took disability payments but was fit enough to work (she went to school full time, was mobile and was able to get a bachelor degree) she committed fraud. If she could pay for plastic surgery she was not eligible for Medicaid nor for food stamps--she also committed fraud there. If she disregarded the advice of doctors and exacerbated her disability--she may not have been eligible to continue to receive the money.

The fact is, when a person is on disability they have to report any circumstances which could change their benefits or affect those payments--if she failed to do that--she may be forced to pay all of that money back and could face jail time. Also, if she lies about what she is using a student loan for--she can get in trouble. She claims on tv that she used the loans to raise her kids and she plans on doing it again--that would be fraud if student loans are not used to directly pay for education and were taken out simply to get low interest fixed loans for other reasons.

Indeed, there may be laws broken here. Already MediCAl is refusing to pay for any of the treatments for her new 8. Bet she is being investigated out of the Wahzoo. LOL
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by harbinger09 February 14, 2009 12:13 PM EST
For once I agree with crzmeat1, there should be a lot more sympathy for this poor woman. I''''m sure she did not want octuplets and only agreed with the doctor''''s plan because she mistakenly believed that he was a competent, sensible fertility specialist

Posted by kaffirboetie at 06:58 AM : Feb 14, 2009


She already had 6 kids at home and had to use tax payer money to even raise them and to pay for this last stint. So you think she did not want 8? Maybe you are right--but since she couldn''t even afford the 6 she already had (3 with special needs and getting disability) and she had no job and was getting food stamps--Why the FVCK was she even trying to have one more?

The problem is--she does not even plan to pay the multimillion dollar medical bills, nor did she pay for the ones for the other kids. How do we know this? Because she had NO job since 1999 and her mom and dad were in bankruptcy. So we should feel sorry for this really stupid, self serving *****? LOL
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by harbinger09 February 14, 2009 12:05 PM EST
Harbinger09 this just keeps getting better and better she%u2019s like a spoiled child trapped in the body of a 33 year old. I really hope that she is thoroughly investigated for fraud.

%u201CNadya Suleman told RadarOnline.com exclusively that she has signed an exclusive representation deal with noted Nashville agent Wes Yoder.

"I''''m dealing exclusively with Wes," Nadya told us. He is handling everything for me, and if you want anything you have to call Wes.
We did Call Wes and he confirmed he is now representing Nadya at the "recommendation of a friend who asked that they get involved."
Wes says rumors of a book deal and reality show are not true. But Wes said, Nadya did sign an exclusive photo deal with Polaris photo agency.

Yoder is president of Ambassador Artist Agency in Nashville and handled PR for the McCaughey septuplets, born in Carlisle, Iowa in 1997. Coincidentally those septuplets were an exclusive Ann Curry interview for NBC. But, says Yoder, Curry was not the "friend" who recommended him.

"We have an exclusive deal with Nadya and are providing comprehensive representation using a coordinated philosophy," Wes says.%u201D



LOL. Yoder is the agent. The publicity company quit.

http://www.rr.com/home/home/article/9001/6871097/SoCal_octuplets_mother_now_has_agent_no_publicist

And make my age over 45 and investigate away--my credentials are excellent and I don''t cheat people. LMAO
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