Feb 4, 2009

Cheney Warns Of New Attacks

Politico: Former Vice President Fears Obama Administration Is Off Course On National Security

  • Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned a major terrorist attack on the U.S. is highly probable in the coming years.

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned a major terrorist attack on the U.S. is highly probable in the coming years.  (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)

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Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed.

In an interview Tuesday with Politico, Cheney unyieldingly defended the Bush administration’s support for the Guantanamo Bay prison and coercive interrogation of terrorism suspects.

And he asserted that President Obama will either backtrack on his stated intentions to end those policies or put the county at risk in ways more severe than most Americans - and, he charged, many members of Obama’s own team - understand.

“When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said.

Protecting the country’s security is “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business,” he said. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

Citing intelligence reports, Cheney said at least 61 of the inmates who were released from Guantanamo during the Bush administration - “that’s about 11 or 12 percent” - have “gone back into the business of being terrorists.”

The 200 or so inmates still there, he claimed, are “the hard core” whose “recidivism rate would be much higher.” He called Guantanamo a “first-class program,” and “a necessary facility” that is operated legally and with better food and treatment than the jails in inmates' native countries.

But he said he worried that “instead of sitting down and carefully evaluating the policies,” Obama officials are unwisely following “campaign rhetoric” and preparing to release terrorism suspects or afford them legal protections granted to more conventional defendants in crime cases.

The choice, he alleged, reflects a naïve mindset among the new team in Washington: “The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected. Sometimes, that requires us to take actions that generate controversy. I’m not at all sure that that’s what the Obama adminstration believes.”

The dire portrait Cheney painted of the country’s security situation was made even grimmer by his comments agreeing with analysts who say this recession may be a once-in-a-century disaster.

“It’s unlike anything I’ve ever seen,” Cheney said. “The combination of the financial crisis that started last year, coupled now with, obviously, a major recession, I think we’re a long way from having solved these problems.”

The interview, less than two weeks after the Bush administration ceded power to Obama, found the man who is arguably the most controversial - and almost surely the most influential - vice president in U.S. history in a self-vindicating mood.

He expressed confidence that files will some day be publicly accessible offering specific evidence that waterboarding and other policies he promoted - over sharp internal dissent from colleagues and harsh public criticism - were directly responsible for averting new September 11-style attacks.

Not content to wait for a historical verdict, Cheney said he is set to plunge into his own memoirs, feeling liberated to describe behind-the-scenes roles over several decades in government now that the “statute of limitations has expired” on many of the most sensitive episodes.

His comments made unmistakable that Cheney - likely more than former President Bush, who has not yet given post-White House interviews&mdash - is willing and even eager to spar with the new administration and its supporters over the issues he cares most about.

His standing in this public debate is beset by contradictions. Cheney for years has had intimate access to the sort of highly classified national security intelligence that Obama and his teams are only recently seeing.

But many of the top Democratic legal and national security players have long viewed Cheney as a man who became unhinged by his fears, responsible for major misjudgments in Iraq and Afghanistan, willing to bend or break legal precedents and constitutional principles to advance his aims. Polls show he is one of the most unpopular people in national life.

In the interview, Cheney revealed no doubts about his own course - and many about the new administration’s.

“If it hadn’t been for what we did - with respect to the terrorist surveillance program, or enhanced interrogation techniques for high-value detainees, the Patriot Act, and so forth - then we would have been attacked again,” he said. “Those policies we put in place, in my opinion, were absolutely crucial to getting us through the last seven-plus years without a major-casualty attack on the U.S.”

Cheney said “the ultimate threat to the country” is “a 9/11-type event where the terrorists are armed with something much more dangerous than an airline ticket and a box cutter - a nuclear weapon or a biological agent of some kind” that is deployed in the middle of an American city.

“That’s the one that would involve the deaths of perhaps hundreds of thousands of people, and the one you have to spend a hell of a lot of time guarding against,” he said.

“I think there’s a high probability of such an attempt. Whether or not they can pull it off depends whether or not we keep in place policies that have allowed us to defeat all further attempts, since 9/11, to launch mass-casualty attacks against the United States.”

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When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney
If Cheney’s language was dramatic, the setting for the comments was almost bizarrely pedestrian. His office is in a non-descript suburban office building in McLean, in a suite that could just as easily house a dental clinic. The office is across the hall from a quick-copy store. The door is marked by nothing except a paper sign, held up by tape, saying the unit is occupied by the General Services Administration.

At several points, Cheney resisted singling out Obama personally for criticism, at one point saying he wants to give him a break after just two weeks in office. He said he admires Obama’s choice to keep Defense Secretary Robert Gates on the job.

But if he treated Obama gingerly, Cheney was eager to engage in the broader philosophical debate he has with Democrats and even many in his own party about the right way to navigate a dangerous planet. He said he fears the people populating Obama’s ranks put too much faith in negotiation, persuasion, and good intentions.

“I think there are some who probably actually believe that if we just go talk nice to these folks, everything’s going to be okay,” he said.

He said his own experience tempers his belief in diplomacy.

“I think they’re optimistic. All new administrations are optimistic. We were,” he said.

“They may be able, in some cases, to make progress diplomatically that we weren’t,” Cheney said. “But, on the other hand, I think they’re likely to find - just as we did - that lots of times the diplomacy doesn’t work. Or diplomacy doesn’t work without there being an implied threat of something more serious if it fails.”

As examples of the dangerous world he sees - and one he predicted Obama and aides would find “sobering” - were Russia’s backsliding into authoritarianism and away from democracy, and the ongoing showdowns over the nuclear intentions of Iran and North Korea.

But it was the choice over Guantanamo that most dominated Cheney’s comments.

“If you release the hard-core al Qaeda terrorists that are held at Guantanamo, I think they go back into the business of trying to kill more Americans and mount further mass-casualty attacks,” he said. “If you turn ’em loose and they go kill more Americans, who’s responsible for that?”

Of one alternative - moving prisoners to the U.S. prisons - Cheney said he has heard from few members of Congress eager for Guantanamo transfers to their home-state prisons, and asked: “Is that really a good idea to take hardened al Qaeda terrorists who’ve already killed thousands of Americans and put ’em in San Quentin or some other prison facility where they can spread their venom even more widely than it already is?”

While Cheney’s words were dire, his own mood was relaxed, even loquacious. He was not on crutches - much less the wheelchair he rode to Obama’s inauguration - from an injury while moving a box of books into his new home.

Suddenly a man of leisure, Cheney has a Kindle, Amazon’s wireless reading device, and said he used it recently to read James M. McPherson’s new “Tried by War: Abraham Lincoln as Commander in Chief.”

About a week ago, he had a phone conversation with former President George W. Bush, the first time the two had talked since they appeared together at a rally at Andrews Air Force Base just after Obama’s swearing-in.

“He’s fine,” Cheney said. “We had a pleasant chat on the phone. It was a private, personal conversation - not about policy. We’re both citizens - civilians.”

Other highlights of the 90-minute interview:

  • What Cheney called “the trillion-dollar so-called stimulus bill”: “It looks to me like there’s a lot of stuff in there that has nothing to do with stimulus - it’s a sort of a wish list of a lot of my congressional Democratic friends,” he said.

  • The potential consequences of $1 trillion in deficit stimulus spending: “It’s huge, obviously - potentially huge. You worry about what ultimately happens to inflation. You worry about what’s going to happen to the ability of the government to borrow money. … I’m nervous.”

  • Whether the Bush administration should have done more about the economy: “We did worry about it, to some extent. … I don’t think anybody actually foresaw something of this size and dimension occurring. It’s also global. We only control part of the world economy - a very important part.”

  • On the chance of progress in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process in the foreseeable future: “I think it’s unlikely.”

    After leaving office, Cheney and his wife, Lynne, went first to his home in Wyoming, then returned to Washington to enjoy their grandchildren. He’s working on a book about his career, which has included stints as a House member, White House chief of staff and secretary of Defense.

    His daughter, Liz Cheney, the former principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affair, supervised the interview and at one point was looking for a tape recorder.

    “I’m not a very good press aide,” she joshed.

    Cheney found one on his own. “See, you don’t need staff,” she said.

    By Jim VandeHei, John F. Harris, Mike Allen.
    Copyright 2009 POLITICO



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    by blueowl90 February 5, 2009 6:29 PM EST
    I''m not a big fan of Cheney, but I guess I''ll play devil''s advocate... What if he ends up being right and we do get attacked again? September 11 showed us that in *can* happen. It might not even be due to a specific lapse in security, but rather because we just haven''t thought up some way we could be attacked. Certainly I hope it doesn''t happen, but if it does, I do think it would force Obama to reevaluate some of his policies. I guess I just find it weird that everyone on this board is so convinced that we will not ever get attacked again.
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    by sethw76 February 5, 2009 4:15 PM EST
    Quit interviewing that evil old man. We finally got rid of him and people still have to go ask his advice? Sick.
    Reply to this comment
    by raflin0010 February 5, 2009 4:06 PM EST
    "Cheney Warns Of New Attacks"

    Looks like Grouchy Ol'' Cheney''s gonna do some quail hunting again!! Hope the other hunters stay out of range of his gun!!
    Reply to this comment
    by oleander8 February 5, 2009 3:44 PM EST
    Oh for GAWD''s sake, Darth...just disappear, will ''ya?
    Reply to this comment
    by February 5, 2009 3:23 PM EST
    Accusations naivety and lack of judgment coming from the man that pronounced we''d be greeted as liberators and that there was no doubt that were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and continued to insist upon a fictitious link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda that even George Bush finally admitted was non-existent. Cheney is a laughing stock...hurry up and die old man!
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    by February 5, 2009 3:22 PM EST
    Accusations naivety and lack of judgment coming from the man that pronounced we''d be greeted as liberators and that there was no doubt that were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and continued to insist upon a fictitious link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda that even George Bush finally admitted was non-existent. Cheney is a laughing stock...hurry up and die old man!
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    by jocro12 February 5, 2009 3:20 PM EST
    You people are morons

    Posted by Guyfrompa09 at 09:30 AM : Feb 05, 2009

    Are you saying that a majority of Americans are morons because they dont buy into this fear mongering? You scared little man!!
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    by vsg4 February 5, 2009 2:46 PM EST
    "One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton%u2019s counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials intelligence briefings that he led.


    Posted by mavnomore at 11:34 AM : Feb 05, 2009"

    I would like to add that Mr. Clark''s document name for PDB ( presidential daily briefing) in August of 2000 is Alqueda is ready to hit American targets with air planes. Then President recorded response was " squashing these flies is not his top agenda".
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    by legacyabq February 5, 2009 2:35 PM EST
    haahaha halfway through he pretty much qouted Machiavelli!

    you can tell who he reads for inspiration,and it aint Thomas Jefferson!

    Stupid Cheney.. What a looney tune paranoiac

    Thank god those guys are gone
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    by mavnomore February 5, 2009 2:34 PM EST
    Clinton: Bush Had Urgent Warnings on Al-Qaeda
    by NationalSecurity | September 25, 2008

    Top Clinton Aides Will Tell 9-11 Commission That Bush
    Ignored Al Qaeda Warnings


    Senior Clinton administration officials called to
    testify next week before the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks say they are prepared to detail how they repeatedly warned their Bush administration counterparts in late 2000 that Al Qaeda posed the worst security threat facing the
    nation %u2014 and how the new administration was slow to act.

    They said the warnings were delivered in urgent post-election intelligence briefings in December 2000 and January 2001 for Condoleezza Rice, who became Mr. Bush%u2019s national security adviser; Stephen Hadley, now Ms. Rice%u2019s deputy; and Philip D. Zelikow, a member of the Bush transition team, among others.

    One official scheduled to testify, Richard A. Clarke, who was President Bill Clinton%u2019s counterterrorism coordinator, said in an interview that the warning about the Qaeda threat could not have been made more bluntly to the incoming Bush officials intelligence briefings that he led.

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    by mavnomore February 5, 2009 2:27 PM EST
    Oh yeah, there is that one other little thing regarding Clinton and Bush, when Clinton left he informed Bush that the largest threat to this country was from Al Queda, it was repeated by Richard Clarke and ignored by Bush. I gueess he and Cheney were busy dividing up the Iraqi oil fields.
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    by mavnomore February 5, 2009 2:20 PM EST
    I would like to hear from somebody credible just what attacks were prevented by Cheney. And how do you prove an absence of something anyway? He and Bush blather on about how they stopped attacks but the biggest one happened on their watch! Give us real facts or shut up!


    posted by catlady1412


    The amazing thing is that the far right wing-nuts insist that a. Bush and Darth keep us safe (only if you don''t count the largest attack ever on our country) and that all the torture, rendition, Gitmo, spying on you and me, shredding the Constitution were all necessary to keep us all from being killed. "Thank Gawd for Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney for keepin us safe" they all chant.

    Here''s a history lesson, the first World Trade Center attack occured 6-weeks into Clinton''s first term. I don''t recall our country being attacked again under his watch - Thank Gawd for Mr. Clinton and Mr. Gore for keepin us save, without turning the world against us, without shredding the Constitution, without torturing people, without invading the wrong country and without destroying the American way of life!
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    by solarrays247-2009 February 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST
    Posted by FLSunJnky at 12:52 AM : Feb 05, 2009

    Sun - It''''s hard not to be too judgemental when you fundamentally disagree with the policy, however, I do agree there needs to be a balance. For starters: shut up Cheney. He is not VP of the US now, therefore, I don''''t want to hear him and I don''''t think the International community needs to hear him. He had his time. I was so looking forwad to NOT having to hear him when the new adminsitration came into office. I don''''t believe we need him meddling in the waters he has already muddied. Yikes.

    and secondly, what we need to do is re-focus (or focus as we did not before) on the real threats that present us or have presented us, in the areas of national security, which were so well concealed while the Cheney and Bush Adm distracted our nation on the "WOMD" in Iraq.

    Posted by bluenomas at 01:16 AM : Feb 05, 2009

    Good post! Thanks, bluenomas.
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    by wp4088 February 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST
    chaney is a black ugly hearted idiot, that never thought of anything new, to help the people who pay his stu pid pension..the taxpayer''s..he''s a battle dodger too, never served in a war zone...he''s not slick, boring ugly man with a queer daughter..time for a dirt nab, boy....we lost alot of soldier''s when you and Pres, Bushit were in office...cowboys and indians games...time for a dirt nap, boy
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    by guyfrompa09 February 5, 2009 12:30 PM EST
    You people are morons
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    by raflin0010 February 5, 2009 12:03 PM EST
    "Cheney Warns Of New Attacks"


    Looks like Ol'' Cheney plans to go duck hunting again. Fellow hunters, BEWARE!!!
    Reply to this comment
    by rsmik February 5, 2009 11:56 AM EST
    Cheney got a Kindle? I didn''t know he read anything besides contracts.
    Reply to this comment
    by kuei12 February 5, 2009 11:50 AM EST
    Cheney needs to be arrested for trying to incite fear and rioting amongst many other things. If a person screams "FIRE" in a movie theatre they would be hled accountable. When are the war crimes trials going to start?
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    by reimer211 February 5, 2009 11:13 AM EST
    Cheney is praying to God there is an attack on America, just the justification he needs for his evil regime of illegal incarceration, torture, illegal wiretapping, unjustified war, failure in Afghanistan which should have been THE priority, and the like. Bush/Cheney''s policies have inflamed the Muslim world and inspired thousands of NEW terrorists. And let''s not forget just WHO''s watch 911 occurred on...
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    by guyfrompa09 February 5, 2009 10:44 AM EST
    The poblem with all your posts is this. You have no idea what intelligence is relayed to the president on a daily basis. Even Obama in his interview last week ststed that they''re are definite threats out here. But you don''t want to see it or believe it. What will it actually take? another attack?
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