Interview: John McCain On Stimulus Bill

CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric Asks Obama's Former Rival

(CBS)  CBS News anchor Katie Couric talked Wednesday with one of the Republican opponents of the current stimulus package, Sen. John McCain of Arizona. What follows is a partial transcript of the interview.

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Sen. John McCain: No bill is better than this bill, because it increases the deficit by over a trillion dollars. It has so many programs in it that create no jobs whatsoever. And it has no provisions to put us on the path of a balanced budget, once our economy has recovered.

Katie Couric: You say that you're very far apart, both sides. Are you talking about all the Republicans in the Senate, even some conservative Democrats who are uncomfortable with this package?

McCain: I know there are some Democrats who are uncomfortable. I know there are some quote "liberal" Republicans who lean more towards this package, and so it really is kind of a muddle here.

Couric: But Sen. McCain, hasn't President Obama tried to do just that, reach across the aisle, go up to Capitol Hill, invite Republicans to the White House to get this thorough. I know he's consulted you on several occasions hasn't he?

McCain: Well, look I appreciate what the president has done, talking to House Republicans and Senate Republicans but there hasn't been the negotiations to start with. Second of all, it passed. They passed it through the House without consultation with the Republicans and over here in the Senate, they have rejected all of the particular amendments that Republicans had proposed. So we need to walk the walk as well as talk the talk here.

Couric: You're offering your own proposal, along with other senators. What is different about your proposal Senator McCain?

McCain: Well, it's half the cost. It has to do with tax cuts like the payroll tax cuts and business tax cuts. It has money for military construction as well as replacing equipment for the military and it triggers a mechanism that would increase the gross domestic product by two percent. In other words, our economy recovers. We've got to put ourselves on a path to a balanced budget and eliminating the deficit that's mortgaging our children's futures.

Couric: Have you talked to President Obama about your proposal?

McCain: Yes, I have talked to President Obama on the phone and I appreciate his outreach, not only by me, but to others. Now serious negotiations have to take place.

Couric: Was he receptive to your plan?

McCain: Well, of course, he said that things would be considered. But Democrats here in the Senate are not receptive.

Couric: President Obama claims that there are absolutely no earmarks in this bill. As someone who has been a champion against earmarks, do you agree with that assessment?

McCain: Technically, yes, because the package came through without going through the normal process that it goes through. But the programs and proposals are clearly those characterized as earmark, that the Democrats have never been able to get through. I don't know if money for smoking cessation creates a job, even though it's a worthy cause. And there's a myriad of programs including that are not stimulative, nor are they job creating.

Couric One of the items you criticized on the Senate floor today, that has been in the stimulus package, the $2.9 billion for the weatherization assistance program. I actually asked President Obama about that yesterday. Let's listen to what he had to say.

"We're going to weatherize homes. That immediately puts people back to work. As a consequence of weatherization, their energy bills go down, and we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What would be a more effective stimulus package than that? I mean, you're getting a threefer," Mr. Obama said.

Couric: What's your response to that?

McCain: I think many, many worthy projects that are in this bill but I do not believe that you can stimulate the economy and create jobs with programs like these. So, I have criticized these programs, which are there, and proposals which do not have an immediate effect on our economy to create jobs.

Couric: Sen. John McCain. Senator, so nice to see you again. Thank you so much for talking with us tonight.

McCain: Thank you, Katie.

[klviste]

During the recent Presidential campaign McCain admitted to not knowing much about the economy. His views were rejected by the voters. Why is he given such a prominent interview? I have observed Republicans getting much more air time than Democrats. Why?

[suzyku]

john mccain is a snake! He showed us consistently during his horrendous campaign just what a low life he really is! He''s a liar, he doesn''t understand the economy (his words), he doesn''t know how many houses or cars he owns, he "fake" suspended his campaign to vote for the first bailout and now he''s just a jerk! Obama tried to reach out to him but like the snake mccain is, he bit Obama! If mccain had such knowledge and any good idea''s at all he would have gotten elected, he didn''t, HE LOST! HE''S STILL A LOSER! MCCAIN=NO JUDGEMENT,NO CHARACTER,NO PRINCIPLES,NO IDEA''S

[pat_olson]

No disrespect but someone living off their rich wife has a duty to advocate TAX CUTS as oppose offering bailouts to Joe the Plumber and other working Americans.

Lets face it..during times like these the American people would prefer to eat BACON as opposed to CAKE.

[pat_olson]

No disrespect but someone living off their rich wife has a duty to advocate TAX CUTS as oppose offering bailouts to Joe the Plumber and other working Americans.

Lets face it..during times like these the American people would prefer to eat BACON as opposed to CAKE.

[sollenpa]

Spare us the voice of John McCain! He was unable to "fix" the economy when he derailed his campaign to come back to Washington. He LOST the election! Last evening''s news gave him far too much time.

[maramara2]

McCain voted to spend trillion of Dollars in Iraq but will not vote to spend the money to save America.
Country First my ***

[windover21]

I think Pres. Obama need to keep the promises he made when he was running. He needs to stop rolling over to the Banks, Auto Companies, and Wall Street. It looks like big business owns him, just like so many Presidents in the past.

[boatdocster]

McSame - "No bill is better than this bill, because it increases the deficit by over a trillion dollars. It has so many programs in it that create no jobs whatsoever. And it has no provisions to put us on the path of a balanced budget, once our economy has recovered."

Funny, McSame and his GOP cronies have spent 10 times that (10 Trillion; 6-7 trillion in documented new debt spending and 2-3 trillion for long term VA care), and not 1 dollar of that money created any jobs here in the US. Nobody in the GOP gave a rat''s asss about balancing the budget or huge deficits when they spent money hand over fist, but now then suddenly find the fiscal Jesus and come to church as all knowing???

Pure GOP *********

[lonewackodot]

Regarding the weatherization, perhaps if CBS wants to do some real reporting they can hire someone familiar with the field to answer where exactly that money would flow. Would it go mostly to workers? Manufacturers? Big companies, small companies? And, how much new product development would it stimulate, rather than not encouraging innovation?

And, CBS should look into how many non-U.S. citizens including illegal aliens would be employed under that scheme. Knowing the Dems, they''re going to try to keep as many illegal aliens employed as possible, even if it means U.S. citizens can''t find jobs. I''m not exaggerating: Dem leaders don''t have problems with illegal aliens taking college educations from U.S. citizens, and they always try to provide loopholes allowing illegal aliens to get various other benefits.

[remus8]

Didn''t this clown lose the election? Now he is dictating as if he had won. Good, tax cuts for the wealthy and more work for Haliburton.

Interviews with Chenney and McCain tonight? Haven''t we moved forward? Who do you have on tomorrow night, Newt??? Get with it...

[diamondmarge]

I second the remarks above. Where is the graciousness given your Inauguration Day guests? Did your corporate bosses give you marching orders to undermine Obama at all costs, even if America fails? McCain has the economic IQ of a baboon; he is a one-track Republican;they don''t care if America fails, so long as they have money and power, pay no taxes, make money on eternal war, the planet be damned. America chose Obama by a landslide. Why are you empowering failed naysayers?

[diamondmarge]

I second the remarks above. Where is the graciousness given your Inauguration Day guests? Did your corporate bosses give you marching orders to undermine Obama at all costs, even if America fails? McCain has the economic IQ of a baboon; he is a one-track Republican;they don''t care if America fails, so long as they have money and power, pay no taxes, make money on eternal war, the planet be damned. Obama won. Why are you empowering failed naysayers?

[diamondmarge]

I second the remarks posted just before mine. Where is the graciousness you showed all of your Inauguration Day guests? Did your corporate bosses give you marching orders to undermine Obama at all costs, even if America fails? McCain has the economic IQ of a baboon; he is joining the Republicans who don''t care if America fails, so long as they can make money and have power. Why are you empowering them?

[jeffhch]

Is this the same John McCain who stated several months back that the American economy was ''fundamentally sound'' just prior to a near complete collapse of the American banking system?

That John McCain?

[gabeandabby]

I felt the interview with Senator McCain should have been shortened and balanced with an equal time interview with a supporting senator. Not an argument, but separate, equal time, discussion, questioning.

[endurorob]

It seems the fascist Washington media that gave Duhbya a pass when he took office in 2001 is now putting Obama under unfair scrutiny.

You people at CBS News are just as lousy and partisan as the Fascist News Channel.


Posted by phoenixandy at 06:57 PM : Feb 04, 2009

I think you are the most confused individual I have ever read.

[bill517]

Thank God for one small voice of common sense in this chaotic time of nonsense.

[momofm3]

Katie, I thing Obama did a fair job of standing up to your "gatcha media"-type interview last night. It came across of kind of catty to me for you to turn around and ask McCain what he tought of Obama''s come back comment.

Have you jumped ship from the Obama cruise?

[phoenixandy]

Katie, I don''t know what you hoped to achieve by giving air time to some washed-up right-wing politician who lost the 2008 Presidential Election except for competing with Fox News for providing fascist propoganda in an one-sided partisan attempt to undermine President Obama. I also thought Sharyl Atkinson''s interview with McSame was very inappropriate.

It seems the fascist Washington media that gave Duhbya a pass when he took office in 2001 is now putting Obama under unfair scrutiny.

You people at CBS News are just as lousy and partisan as the Fascist News Channel.