CAIRO, Egypt, Jan. 14, 2009

Proposal Emerges For 10-Day Truce In Gaza

Hamas And Egypt Negotiate Cease-Fire As Palestinian Death Toll Surpasses 1,000

    • Palestinians react during a funeral of four men killed in Israeli military operations, at the mosque in Beit Lahiya northern Gaza Strip, Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2009. Photo

      Palestinians react during a funeral of four men killed in Israeli military operations, at the mosque in Beit Lahiya northern Gaza Strip, Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2009.  (AP Photo/Fadi Adwan)

    • Lebanese army soldiers stand next to a rocket which fell short in Lebanon several kilometers north of the Israeli border, as the soldier in the right looks up to an Israeli warplane, near the village of el-Meri, south of Lebanon, Jan. 14, 2009. Photo

      Lebanese army soldiers stand next to a rocket which fell short in Lebanon several kilometers north of the Israeli border, as the soldier in the right looks up to an Israeli warplane, near the village of el-Meri, south of Lebanon, Jan. 14, 2009.  (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

    • A shell fired from an Israeli Army tank explodes over a building in the outskirts of Gaza City, as seen from the Israeli-Gaza border, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009. Photo

      A shell fired from an Israeli Army tank explodes over a building in the outskirts of Gaza City, as seen from the Israeli-Gaza border, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009.  (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

    • An Israeli tank prepares to cross into the Gaza Strip on a combat mission, from Israel, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009. Israeli troops advanced into Gaza suburbs for the first time early Tuesday, residents said, hours after Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert warned Islamic militants that they face an Photo

      An Israeli tank prepares to cross into the Gaza Strip on a combat mission, from Israel, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2009. Israeli troops advanced into Gaza suburbs for the first time early Tuesday, residents said, hours after Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert warned Islamic militants that they face an "iron fist" unless they agree to Israeli terms for an end to war in the Gaza Strip.  (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

    • Palestinian medics carry a wounded boy who according to Palestinian medical sources was injured in an Israeli strike, into Shifa hospital in Gaza City, Monday, Jan. 12, 2009. Photo

      Palestinian medics carry a wounded boy who according to Palestinian medical sources was injured in an Israeli strike, into Shifa hospital in Gaza City, Monday, Jan. 12, 2009.  (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

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(CBS/AP)  Egypt and Hamas were negotiating a proposal for a 10-day cease-fire in Gaza, officials said Wednesday, as the Palestinian death toll in the war passed 1,000 and smoke from Israeli airstrikes rose over Gaza City's devastated streets.

Egyptian and Palestinian officials said they hoped to seal Hamas' agreement on a temporary halt in fighting, which would be presented to Israel for approval. Key uncertainties remained for a longer-term deal under which Gaza's borders would be open and Israeli troops would withdraw.

The officials provided details of the deal on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the Egypt-Hamas talks. But Egyptian officials also expressed public optimism that momentum toward a deal was growing.

"We're working with Hamas and we're working with the Israeli side. We hope to reach an outcome soon," Hossam Zaki, a spokesman for Egypt's Foreign Ministry, told the British Broadcasting Corp.

A Hamas spokesman said he also believed an agreement was possible.

"There is good progress in Egypt. We hope that now Egypt will contact Israel and talk about all issues," Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas adviser, told the BBC.

Asked if a negotiated settlement could also include a deal between Hamas and the rival Palestinian administration, led by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank, Hamad said he was hopeful.

"I am optimistic now because I think there is no other choice for us," he said.

However, the Hamas leadership said it still had "certain reservations" over the Egyptian plan, reports CBS News' George Baghdadi in Damascus.

"We responded positively to the Egyptian initiative but there is still several specified points of differences and certain reservations. We hope that these points will be solved over the next few days to meet with the Palestinian national interests," a Hamas source told CBS News in Damascus on condition of anonymity.

In Jerusalem, a senior Defense Ministry official said Israel was sending a chief envoy to Egypt on Thursday to present Israel's stance. The senior official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media. Amos Gilad's trip has been postponed for days but his presence in Egypt would be a strong signal of progress.

Egypt's foreign minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, said details on the proposed cease-fire would be kept "under a lid of secrecy" until all parties agreed but said issues included an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, opening crossings into the blockaded territory and some kind of international monitors.

Israeli military officials have said talks in Cairo will determine whether Israel moves closer to a truce with Hamas or widens its offensive to send thousands of reservists into crowded, urban areas where casualties on both sides would likely mount.

Hamas has insisted that it would not agree to a cease-fire unless Israel pulls its troops out of the tiny Mediterranean coastal strip and allowed Gaza's borders to the outside world to immediately reopen.

But the temporary cease-fire proposal being discussed in Cairo would allow Israel's military to stay in place and the borders closed during a 10-day period of quiet, the Egyptian and Palestinian officials close to the talks said.

During that time, Egyptian, Turkish and other international mediators would try to negotiate an arrangement for policing Egypt's border with Gaza to prevent weapons smuggling into the territory, the officials said.

This would likely entail some kind of international monitors on the Palestinian side of the border - but the two sides remained far apart on who would make up the force, where they would be deployed and their mission.

Hamas has so far publicly resisted deploying international monitors and has demanded a role in policing the crossings and borders. Israel - like the United States, the EU and other nations - considers Hamas a terrorist group and has always rejected a role for it policing the crossings.

Egypt has also rejected any foreign troops on its side of the border, though it says it would accept foreign technical and financial aid to help control the border, which is riddled with smuggling tunnels.

Only after a deal has been reached on border security - including control of the crossings - would the crossings be opened and Israel would withdraw its forces from Gaza, the officials said.

That means negotiators potentially would have only 10 days to work out the contentious details or else risk a return to fighting.

Efforts of Arab countries to contain the crisis were marked by their own divisions. Qatar on Wednesday managed to get enough Arab countries to agree on an emergency summit meeting in its capital of Doha for Friday.

Its efforts succeeded over the strong opposition of Egypt and Saudi Arabia who preferred a meeting a few days later in Kuwait on the sidelines of an economic summit.

In related developments:

  • Venezuela broke off diplomatic relations with Israel to protest the offensive in Gaza.

    The decision by President Hugo Chavez's socialist government comes more than a week after Venezuela expelled the Israeli ambassador in Caracas and seven embassy staff members.

    A Foreign Ministry statement said Wednesday that Venezuela "has decided to break off diplomatic relations with the state of Israel given the inhumane persecution of the Palestinian people."

  • CBSNews.com broke the story Wednesday morning of a new audiotape by al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden said the decline of America's dominance on the world stage was one of the main factors which prompted Israel to launch its offensive in Gaza. He called for Jihad to defeat Israel.

  • Aides say Prime Minister Ehud Olmert stands by his claim that he caused the U.S. to abstain from a U.N. resolution calling for a halt in Gaza fighting. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice negotiated the resolution. Olmert claimed earlier this week that he humiliated Rice by persuading U.S. President Bush to instruct her not to vote for it. Rice spokesman Sean McCormack has called Olmert's claims "100-percent, totally, completely not true."

  • Iran's top leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious opinion, or fatwa, declaring the purchase of any Israeli goods or trade with Israeli companies to be forbidden.

  • Desperately trying to end the fighting, U.N. secretary-general Ban Ki-moon opened a visit to the Mideast on Wednesday urging an immediate halt to the violence.

    "My call is (for) an immediate end to violence in Gaza," he said in Cairo after meeting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

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    It is intolerable that civilians bear the brunt of this conflict. Negotiations need to be intensified to provide arrangements and guarantees in order to sustain an endurable cease-fire and calm."

    Ban Ki-moon
    U.N. Secretary General
    "It is intolerable that civilians bear the brunt of this conflict," he said, adding that the "negotiations need to be intensified to provide arrangements and guarantees in order to sustain an endurable cease-fire and calm." Ban is scheduled to arrive in Israel on Thursday. He will also visit Jordan, the Palestinian-controlled West Bank, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and Kuwait. His itinerary does not include a stop in Gaza because of the ongoing conflict.

  • Israel showed no signs of slowing its bruising 19-day-old offensive against Gaza's Hamas rulers, striking some 60 targets. One airstrike hit an overcrowded cemetery, spreading body parts and rotting flesh over a wide area. The army said the airstrike targeted a weapons cache hidden near the graveyard.

    Guerrillas in Lebanon sent rockets crashing into northern Israel on Wednesday for the second time in a week, drawing an Israeli artillery barrage and threatening to drag the Jewish state into a second front.

    The rocket fire in the north caused no injuries, but sent residents scurrying to bomb shelters. There was no immediate claim of responsibility, and speculation focused on small Palestinian groups. Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed guerrilla group that fought a monthlong war with Israel in 2006, denied involvement in last week's attack.

    Israel launched the onslaught in Gaza on Dec. 27, seeking to stop the ruling Hamas militant group from firing rockets into southern Israel. The offensive has killed more than 1,000 Palestinians, half of them civilians, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry. The toll included 11 Palestinians killed Wednesday, medical officials said.

    Thirteen Israelis have also been killed since the offensive began, four by rocket fire from Gaza.

    Overnight, Israeli warplanes and helicopter gunships pounded a police court in Gaza City, rocket-launching sites, gunmen, weapons-production and storage facilities and about 35 weapons smuggling tunnels, the military said. Later in the day, witnesses in southern Gaza reported air strikes on the house of a rocket squad leader and a militant's car.

    Aircraft also struck the Sheikh Radwan cemetery in Gaza City, destroying about 30 graves - some just recently dug - and scattering bits of flesh and body parts, residents said.

    Maj. Avital Leibovich, a military spokeswoman, said the army targeted a weapons cache next to the cemetery and a nearby rocket-launching site. She said the heavy damage was the result of secondary explosions.

    Israel has repeatedly accused Hamas of using mosques, schools and other civilian areas to stage attacks or store weapons.

    Fireballs and smoke plumes from Israeli bombing have become a common sight in the territory of 1.4 million people, who are trapped because Israel and Egypt have blockaded border crossings ever since the Islamic Hamas overran Gaza in June 2007.

    Humanitarian concerns have increased amid the onslaught although some aid is reaching Gaza during daily three-hour lulls Israel has allowed to let in supplies. A total of 111 truckloads of food and medical supplies were to pass through on Wednesday, the military said.

    Palestinian rocket fire has dropped off dramatically since the offensive began. Twelve rockets were fired at Israel on Wednesday, down from as many as 80 a day early in the operation. Israeli police said Hamas militants fired a phosphorus shell from the Gaza Strip into Israel for the first time. Micky Rosenfeld, a police spokesman, said the mortar shell exploded in a field near the border town of Sderot Wednesday evening. There were no casualties.

    Human Rights Watch has said Israel used phosphorus shells, which illuminate targets at night or create a smoke screen for day attacks, against targets in Gaza.

    Phosphorus shells can burn anything they touch and pose a threat to non-combatants if used in civilian areas. Israeli says it uses munitions in line with international law.

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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 1:20 PM PST
    A ten day cease fire is rediculous. Israel must accept nothing less than surrender, a pledge to peace, disarming the Palestinians, and no more missiles and suicide bombers sent into Israel. and arrest of the Hamas leaders and fighters.
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    by alanw1077 January 14, 2009 1:23 PM PST
    1000 down, 1,499,999,000 Muslims to go.
    Da*rn, this is going to take longer than I thought.

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    by samael2014 January 14, 2009 1:38 PM PST
    Israel showed no signs of slowing its bruising 19-day-old offensive against Gaza''s Hamas rulers, striking some 60 targets. One airstrike hit an overcrowded cemetery, spreading body parts and rotting flesh over a wide area. The army said the airstrike targeted a weapons cache hidden near the graveyard.

    The important thing to note is that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOVER will a world body like the U.N. immediately and forcibly send U.N. peacekeeper troops and humanitarian aid into the Gaza strip, THEIR HANDS ARE TIED until a cease-fire is negotiated. I mean it might be possible if the U.N. wasn''t a corrupt, immoral, inhumane and cowardly organization, bereft of integrity to it''s stinking core, but that''s not the case, is it.

    BTW: They have the stomach to WATCH MUCH MORE Israel, so you''re going to have to try a lot harder than slaughtering hundreds of women and children and EXPLODING graveyards filled to the brim with rotting bodies while they look on... a LOT harder.
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    by lewiston14 January 14, 2009 1:38 PM PST
    I just watched 2 hours of video from Israel and a few from Gaze. Hamas better be thinking of getting out of this before Gaza is turned into a burned out cinder
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    by jsd330 January 14, 2009 1:41 PM PST
    Gotta bring in the big boys, the nukes.

    Posted by AlanW1077

    Who''s nukes? israel claims they don''t have any, of course when have they ever told the truth. The nukes would be a good thing though you could kill two birds with one stone hamas and the israeli''s from the fallout, and then there would be peace.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 1:42 PM PST
    LOL! Hamas as saying that only if IDF withdrew and the borders were opened and no international observers would be allowed in Gaza. Now, after 19 of war with Israel Hamas is changing its tune. The current 10 day cease fire would allow the IDF to stay and the border remain shut.

    Is Hamas getting hit hard every day that now they change their tune?

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    by one4gipper January 14, 2009 1:49 PM PST
    Anyone who wants to know what this cease-fire is all about should Google the word "hudna." Islam is only allowed to enter into a "hudna" (i.e. truce) with the kuffar when it is the weaker force. The agreement is tactical. It is not allowed to be permanent, never to exceed ten years. It purpose is to allow the weaker Islamic force to regroup and rebuild in order to continue the war against the infidel. The more we educate ourselves about Islam, the more vile and repugnant the "peaceful religion" becomes.

    Israel would be foolish to enter into a "hudna" with Hamas before all of its goals are accomplished.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST
    These zionist Israeli and American jew pigs are too stupid for their own good, and refuse to accept that Israel is viewed as a terrorist and rogue state in the eyes of the world. - Posted by l00ker1

    Just what country in the world, except whacko Iran, recognizes Hamas? Jordan won''t let them in, Egypt even fences them out. The are not recognized by the E.U., U.N., Russia, or about anybody else. Even the Arab League doesn''t recognize Hamas and calls on the Palestine people to unite under Abbas.

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    by samael2014 January 14, 2009 2:03 PM PST
    Anyone who wants to know what this cease-fire is all about should Google the word "hudna." Islam is only allowed to enter into a "hudna" (i.e. truce) with the kuffar when it is the weaker force. The agreement is tactical. It is not allowed to be permanent, never to exceed ten years. It purpose is to allow the weaker Islamic force to regroup and rebuild in order to continue the war against the infidel. The more we educate ourselves about Islam, the more vile and repugnant the "peaceful religion" becomes.

    Israel would be foolish to enter into a "hudna" with Hamas before all of its goals are accomplished.


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    Posted by one4gipper at 01:49 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Which is why the Europen Union needs to get the equivalent of U.N. storm-troopers and just walk into the Gaza strip with FULL ARMAMENT AND HUMANITARIAN AID OUT THE WAZOO and IMMEDIATELY AND VIOLENTLY retaliate against any Israeli attacks or Hamas rocket fire.

    Because this isn''t about Israel, it''s about ending their "operation" with EXTREME PREJUDICE.

    Because we who would end this have GOD on our side.
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    by roscoe2400-2009 January 14, 2009 2:09 PM PST
    Who''''s nukes? israel claims they don''''t have any, of course when have they ever told the truth. The nukes would be a good thing though you could kill two birds with one stone hamas and the israeli''''s from the fallout, and then there would be peace.



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    Posted by jsd330 at 01:41 PM : Jan 14, 2009



    Israel has never claimed that they don''t have nukes. They have simply never admitted to having them!
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    by roscoe2400-2009 January 14, 2009 2:18 PM PST
    Posted by Trapbreaker at 01:42 PM : Jan 14, 2009



    To give the civilians relief, but no one expects a zionist jew to understand anything of that sort.


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    Posted by l00ker1 at 02:08 PM : Jan 14, 2009



    Gie it a break, those murderous thugs don''t care about the women and children one bit! They simply need time to regroup! Who''s kidding who!

    Just like the video I saw yesterday on Al Jazeera TV--- A Hamas gunman running down the street in Gaza City trying evade the IDF, he snatched up little boy- 5 or 6 years old by the arm and disappeared into doorway.

    Now that''s what I call caring about the women and children!

    You''re clueless!
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    by roscoe2400-2009 January 14, 2009 2:25 PM PST
    Which is why the Europen Union needs to get the equivalent of U.N. storm-troopers and just walk into the Gaza strip with FULL ARMAMENT AND HUMANITARIAN AID OUT THE WAZOO and IMMEDIATELY AND VIOLENTLY retaliate against any Israeli attacks or Hamas rocket fire.

    Because this isn''''t about Israel, it''''s about ending their "operation" with EXTREME PREJUDICE.

    Because we who would end this have GOD on our side.


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    Posted by samael2014 at 02:03 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Yea, right!

    They same UN StormTroopers who stood around picked their noses and watched while the Serbs separated the Bosnian Muslim men and boys from the women and marched them off into the woods to executed!!!

    What planet are you living on! The UN is the single most incompetant, worthless, useless, dysfunctional and impotent organization in the world. They are simply not capable of providing security, saftey or delivering aid because they lack the respect of virtually every country in the world.
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    by roscoe2400-2009 January 14, 2009 2:28 PM PST
    Posted by roscoe2400 at 02:18 PM : Jan 14, 2009


    And you keep eating the shiit, that you want the rest of us to eat.


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    Posted by l00ker1 at 02:20 PM : Jan 14, 2009


    Sorry if you can''t handle the truth! If you had avaible argument, I''m sure you would have expressed it. But no, you can only spew hatred and profanity!

    Get over it!
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    by roscoe2400-2009 January 14, 2009 2:30 PM PST
    Posted by Trapbreaker at 02:02 PM : Jan 14, 2009


    The same countries which have recognized that cancerous sore Israel.



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    Posted by l00ker1 at 02:06 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Once more--- a statement of extreme intelligence!!

    Get over it!
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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 2:31 PM PST
    DO NOT TRUST HAMAS !!!!

    Look at their record.

    10 more days to re-arm then start over.

    Just kill the M@therf@ckers !!

    Sooner the better.


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    Posted by Moderator672

    Agreed. Nothing less than complete surrender.
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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 2:36 PM PST
    Are the Palestinians claiming victory? Are they ready to surrender? Have the Palestinians captured the Hamas leaders? Are they ready to turn over their leaders to Israel. It appears that there is no enough damage to Gaza yet.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 2:38 PM PST
    Stop pouring my tax dollars down the rat hole of the radical religious welfare system of Israel -Posted by wagolf1

    U.S. aid to Israel is $2.4 billion, for military assistance, of which 75% must be spent on U.S. army back here. This is equal to the aid to Jordan and Egypt combined, and they don''t have the 75% provision. Actually, 4 of the top 5 countries getting U.S. aid are Muslim countries, and far exceed what is given to Israel.

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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST
    Benito Mussolini was hung upside dow for the public to view after taking Italy to war during WWII. Are the Palestinians willing to do the same to their leaders. If not, let the hostilities continue until they are ready to do so.
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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 2:42 PM PST
    When are Israel''''s leaders going to be turned over to the Hague?


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    Posted by hungry685

    Rest assured that will not happen.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 2:44 PM PST
    Translation: Welfare is OK as long as its not going to fellow Americans. - Posted by FloydZeppd

    Oh, the $700 billion to Wall Street, and $300 billion to the big three auto makers, and today''s call for more by Obama isn''t welfare?
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    by rhs648 January 14, 2009 2:45 PM PST
    To the victor goes the spoils. Israel will need to decide the best use of Gaza once the conflict is over. Perhaps it can be used as a landfill or a test sight for weapons. The Palestinians in Gaza should start looking for a new home.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 2:51 PM PST
    Lets see, Bush screeched for it first, right....HAHAHAHA!! - Posted by FloydZeppd


    CBS: Obama Courts Democrats For $350B Bailout

    President-Elect Asks Senators Not To Stand In Way Of Additional Rescue Funds
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 2:54 PM PST
    Source? - Posted by hungry685

    Always happy to provide links and sources for my good friends on this board.

    1. Israel - $2.4 billion - Virtually all of this money is used to buy weapons (up to 75% made in the U.S.). Beginning in 2009, the U.S. plans to give $30 billion over 10 years.
    2. Egypt - $1.7 billion - $1.3 billion to buy weapons; $103 million for education; $74 million for health care; $45 million to promote civic participation and human rights.
    3. Pakistan - $798 million - $330 million for security efforts, including military-equipment upgrades and border security; $20 million for infrastructure.
    4. Jordan - $688 million - $326 million to fight terrorism and promote regional stability through equipment upgrades and training; $163 million cash payment to the Jordanian government.

    http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence-report/archive/who-gets-us-foreign-aid.html
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    by pvperson January 14, 2009 2:57 PM PST
    "Perhaps it can be used as a landfill or a test sight for weapons"

    that''s what Israel HAS been doing for years and that''s why there will NEVER be peace. Every massacre carried out by Israel creates another generation of enemies.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST
    The Sunday morning newspaper insert?!?! - Posted by hungry685

    Couldn''t find a link at Arab News on U.S. aid.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:02 PM PST
    Billions in Welfare for Foreigners but not one penny for fellow Americans! - Posted by FloydZeppd

    About a $trillion in bailout money this year for Americans.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:03 PM PST
    Jesus Nutball mantra: Billions in Welfare for Foreigners but not one penny for fellow Americans!

    Posted by FloydZeppd at 02:56 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Good to see that Obama will carry on the tradition. From Jesus nut Bush to Jesus not Obama. Some change
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    by docpeter1953 January 14, 2009 3:04 PM PST
    From the above article, ''Asked if a negotiated settlement could also include a deal between Hamas and the rival Palestinian administration, led by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank, Hamad said he was hopeful.

    "I am optimistic now because I think there is no other choice for us," he said.
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    IOW, we are tired of getting our little Palestenian Azzes kicked by those mean o jews after we start a fight we aren''t prepared to win.
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    by January 14, 2009 3:04 PM PST
    Just keep the talkers talkin''. They love to talk. So keep ''em at it until Israel can finish the job.
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    by January 14, 2009 3:06 PM PST
    Looks like Israel might be gettin'' close to that bunker Hamas built under a hospital that all the Hamas leaders are hunkered down in.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:07 PM PST
    350 to 5

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. House of Representatives voted Friday on a resolution "recognizing Israel''''s right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza," Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Thursday. The resolution was passed 390 to 5.

    Introduced by Pelosi and House Minority Leader John Boehner, the nonbinding vote came on the 14th day of an air and ground assault on the Palestinian territory. Israel says it is aimed at halting the firing of rockets into Israel by Hamas militants.

    The resolution''s language condemns Hamas, which Israel and the United States consider a terrorist organization, for the rocket attacks and "for deliberately embedding its fighters, leaders and weapons in private homes, schools, mosques, hospitals and otherwise using Palestinian civilians as human shields."

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    The 5 voting against were the usual whackos, Maxine Waters and crew.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:09 PM PST

    All for the "privilege" of making ourselves susceptible to terrorism. - Posted by hungry685

    You don''t whine about $1 trillion in bailout for American companies and homeowners, but $2.4 billion that had a clause that 75% has to be spent back here is driving you nuts.

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    by yongamerica January 14, 2009 3:10 PM PST
    Media photos all sympathetic to Hamas. The photos don''t show Hamas, its hate its ties with Syria and Iran nor its years long terrorist war against Israel.
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:11 PM PST
    You posted this cut-and-paste yesterday. It was irrelevant then too. - Posted by FloydZeppd

    Just to show the new posters on this board that America Stands with Israel. Here are some more:

    Gallup - only 13% of Americans polled think Israel is to blame for the current war in Gaza.

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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:13 PM PST
    I''''m trying to justify welfare.

    Posted by FloydZeppd at 03:10 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    That is the story of your life
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:15 PM PST
    Yeah, I''''m a fake Republican running a bank. Bush gave me free money. Its Socialist Republican.

    Posted by FloydZeppd at 03:14 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Bush and Obama are both socialists. Great, some change
    Reply to this comment
    by isinginmaine January 14, 2009 3:16 PM PST
    In song: "THESE ARE THE ONES WHO DIE"

    http://soundclick.com/share?songid=1155767
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    by trapbreaker January 14, 2009 3:16 PM PST
    Bush gave me free money. Its Socialist Republican. - Posted by FloydZeppd

    With a democrat controlled congress with its hands on the purse strings, why blame Bush. Nancy pelosi was clamoring for the money long before Bush gave approval.
    Reply to this comment
    by isinginmaine January 14, 2009 3:19 PM PST
    In song: "LULLABY FOR A CHILD IN WAR"

    http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6086636

    (free download
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:19 PM PST
    Anyway, I thought Hamas was tough and would fight to the end. What happened to them? Think of all the virgins they will be missing out on
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    by sevenveils January 14, 2009 3:24 PM PST
    Hamas cares NOTHING for the Palestinian people. This terrorist organization has taken over the Gaza strip for its strategic location next to Israel. All Hamas cares for is the destruction of Israel and its just a small price to pay for Palestinian people to suffer for its cause.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:24 PM PST
    That''''s very christian of you.

    "KILL THEM ALL!!"

    Your Jesus must be very proud.

    Posted by hungry685 at 03:23 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Just survival of the fittest, and Hamas has proven they suck at life. The Palestinians must be proud of their elected government.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:30 PM PST
    You should all be stripped of your citizenship and deported.

    Posted by hungry685 at 03:28 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Man, your life must suck. Glad I am not you.
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    by jerryspoor January 14, 2009 3:30 PM PST
    Israeli people live in Israel. I will remain that way.

    All of us have lost one venture or another and it takes common sense to know when to back down. The Hamas need to cut their losses and concede.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:32 PM PST

    And if Israel is "the fittest", then why do WE have to give them arms and ammo?

    Posted by hungry685 at 03:29 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    They pick better friends. You must admit they are surviving, and in a country no less. How are the Palestinians doing? You must admit they have sucked at life for a long time now
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    by jerryspoor January 14, 2009 3:32 PM PST
    The Hamas have a high rate of birth. They could take over all of Israel and the same problem would occur again when they over populate the area they live in. If Israel is replenishing their population at a sustainable rate then they should not be pushed out by a neighbor who overpopulates.

    There are 2 forms of population control. One is war. Many undeveloped cultures are not familiar with the other method.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:35 PM PST
    Because I''''m an American concerned with America''''s best interest?!?!

    Posted by hungry685 at 03:34 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    I don''t believe you are an american.
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    by oldtimer1942-2009 January 14, 2009 3:36 PM PST
    As soon as those jerks stop crying for the cameras in the picture above they will dry their eyes run to a rocket site and start firing again.
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:38 PM PST
    You''''re kidding right?!?!

    The Palestinians had NO PROBLEMS until the Zionists created Israel, and all the Palestinians were turned into refugees because of UN resolution 181.

    You now proclaim that the Palestinians aren''''t living as well as the Israeli''''s BECAUSE of our involvement?!?


    Posted by hungry685 at 03:37 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    Wait - I thought the ever competent UN created Israel?
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    by titletrack January 14, 2009 3:39 PM PST
    You''''re a zionist.

    Zionists HATE America - it''''s obvious.

    Posted by hungry685 at 03:38 PM : Jan 14, 2009

    No, I am Norwegianist, thanks though.
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