NEW YORK, Jan. 13, 2009

States Push To Tax Web Sales

Internet Retailers Rebel As Governments Seek New Revenue To Close Budget Gaps

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(AP)  Shopping online can be a way to find bargains while steering clear of crowds - and sales taxes.

But those tax breaks are starting to erode. With the recession pummeling states' budgets, their governments increasingly want to fill the gaps by collecting taxes on Internet sales, which are growing even as the economy shudders.

And that is sparking conflict with companies that do business online only and have enjoyed being able to offer sales-tax free shopping.

One of the most aggressive states, New York, is being sued by Amazon.com Inc. over a new requirement that online companies must collect taxes on shipments to New York residents, even if the companies are located elsewhere. New York's governor also wants to tax "Taxman" covers and other songs downloaded from Internet services like iTunes.

The amount of money at stake nationwide is unclear; online sales were expected to make up about 8 percent of all retail sales in 2008 and total $204 billion, according to Forrester Research. This is up from $175 billion in 2007.

Based on that 2008 figure, Forrester analyst Sucharita Mulpuru says her rough estimate is that if Web retailers had to collect taxes on all sales to consumers, it could generate $3 billion in new revenue for governments.

It's unclear how much more could come as well from unpaid sales taxes on Internet transactions between businesses. But even with both kinds of taxes available, state budgets would need more help. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that the states' budget gaps in the current fiscal year will total $89 billion.

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It's a legal morass. In a best-case scenario, it's going to take a while to sort everything out.

Forrester Research analyst Sucharita Mulpuru
Collecting online sales taxes is not as simple as it might sound. A nationwide Internet business faces thousands of tax-collecting jurisdictions - states, counties and cities - and tangled rules about how various products are taxed.

And a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court ruling said that states can't force businesses to collect sales taxes unless the businesses have operations in that state. The court also said Congress could lift the ban, which remains in place - for now.

As a result, generally only businesses with a "physical presence" in a state - such as a store or office building - collect sales tax on products sent to buyers in the same state. For instance, a Californian buying something from Barnes & Noble Inc.'s Web site pays sales tax because the bookseller has stores in the Golden State. Buying the same thing directly from Amazon would not ring up sales tax.

That doesn't mean products purchased online from out-of-state companies are necessarily tax-free. Consumers are usually supposed to self-report taxes on these items. This is called a use tax, but not surprisingly, it tends to go unreported.

In hopes of unraveling the complex tax rules - and bringing states more money - 22 states and many brick-and-mortar retailers support the efforts of a group called the Streamlined Sales Tax Governing Board. The group is getting states to simplify and make uniform their numerous tax rates and rules, in exchange for a crack at taxing online sales.

Among other things, participating states need to change how they define things such as "food" and "clothing." For example, one state might now consider a T-shirt clothing and tax it as such, while another might consider it a sporting good and tax it differently.

In response, more than 1,100 retailers have registered with the streamlining group and are collecting sales taxes on items shipped to states that are part of the agreement - even if they are not legally obligated to.

The streamlining board also is lobbying Congress to let the participating states do what the Supreme Court ruling banned: They could force businesses to collect taxes on sales made to in-state customers, even if the businesses don't have a physical presence there.

New Jersey, Michigan and North Carolina are among the largest of the 19 states that have adjusted their tax laws to fully comply with the group's streamlined setup. Washington was the only state to join in 2008, but three more states are close to becoming full members of the group. And Scott Peterson, the group's executive director, expects another seven states - including Texas, Florida and Illinois - to introduce legislation in January that would make them eligible to join.

Undoing the patchwork can be difficult, even if the weak economy increases states' motivation to go after online sales taxes. Similar bills have been introduced in several states and failed, sometimes because of the cost of changing tax laws. New York, for example, decided against joining the streamlining board because it would require extensive revisions to its tax rules.

Besides various states and retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Borders Group Inc. and J.C. Penney Co., the National Retail Federation, the industry's biggest trade group, also supports the Streamlined Sales Tax group.

Companies that handle Web sales only have organized as well. NetChoice, whose members include eBay Inc. and online discount retailer Overstock.com Inc., supports the states' tax simplification efforts, but its executive director, Steve DelBianco, says online retailers should have to collect taxes only in states where they have a physical presence.

But what if the meaning of "physical presence" is changed? New York essentially did that in April when its budget included a provision requiring online retailers like Amazon to collect taxes on purchases made by New Yorkers.

The new rule requires retailers to collect sales tax if they solicit business in New York by paying anyone within the state for leading customers to them. Since some Web site operators within New York are compensated for posting ads that link to sites like Amazon, the online retailers would have to collect taxes.

Matt Anderson, spokesman for the New York State Division of the Budget, said the state expects to reap $23 million during the current fiscal year, which ends March 31, from newly collected online sales taxes.

That's a sliver of the overall state budget for the same period, which is $119.7 billion. The state faces a revenue gap of $1.7 billion.

Yet Anderson said the state wants "to level the playing field and end the "unfair competitive advantage" Web-only companies have over brick-and-mortar stores that can't avoid collecting sales taxes.

Amazon complies, and collects sales taxes on shipments to New York. However, Amazon is still fighting the rule. It sued New York in April, alleging its provision is unconstitutional. Amazon also said it is being specifically targeted by the law. The case is pending.

Amazon declined further comment.

Salt Lake City-based Overstock is also suing New York over the law. Unlike Amazon, Overstock is not collecting sales tax in New York, because it ended agreements with about 3,400 affiliates in the state that were being paid for directing traffic to Overstock.com.

The Streamlined Sales Tax group hopes Congress takes up its uniform-tax idea in 2009. Peterson thinks the dismal economy boosts the chances of passage.

But Congress also will be occupied with economic stimulus plans involving bigger pools of money. And Mulpuru, the Forrester Research analyst, notes that for years there has been talk of taxing online retailers.

"It's a legal morass," she said. "In a best-case scenario, it's going to take a while to sort everything out."

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by jncc1701 January 15, 2009 7:56 PM EST
This will kill commerce on the internet -
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by rf35 January 15, 2009 9:08 AM EST
So how would it work for folks who order on-line from American businesses and have the products shipped to an overseas address? Who would get to tax that?
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by riptide213 January 14, 2009 3:43 PM EST
eTax is an unfair tax on a greener, earth friendly eCommerce in a so called modern society.

American progress in 21st century; find new ways to tax the people.

Blatant greedy virtual taxation exploitation without representation; sanctioned by government at any and every opportunity as a smokescreen and money maker to cover for mismanaged shortfalls in public revenues.

A vexing topic that could serve as rallying cry for all taken advantage of, law abiding tax paying businesses and citizens to finally, rightfully obligate national, state, local legislators and elected officials to account for their inescapable lust for highway robbery tax traps or hikes at every snare point.

Spark that ignites a new found value for money demand for how, why, when taxes are vigorously collected and subsequently haphazardly spent and squandered.

"Im from the government, and Im here to help" said by Ronald Reagan referring to the "most terrifying words in the English language".

"Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem%u201D Ronald Reagan.

Regnat populus
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by catlady1412 January 14, 2009 12:56 PM EST
There are millions of Amazon sellers like me who put things on the site that we are done with, kind of like a garage sale. And that has actually helped me to keep up with my bills. If I had to collect and report and file sales tax, I would not want to mess with it anymore. I used to work for the IRS and I find all that stuff miserable to keep up with. Imagine what that''s like for somebody who never did all that paperwork in the first place! They should not call it a sales tax, but a coffin nail for yet another way for Americans to add a little extra money to their budgets!
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by beewitchy1 January 14, 2009 11:45 AM EST
jjust another way for the greedy government to get there hands on the hardworking peoples money.over and over we get stuck in the as*.
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by stupidrules3 January 14, 2009 11:06 AM EST
Now state governments would like to strangle internet commerce because they are not getting their cut. Sounds like the mafia. If they add sales tax to internet sales, the cost of shipping will deter people from buying on the internet and will bring internet sales down to a trickle. Great.... let''s just get everybody to stop spending so this recession will last even longer. Let''s also make everyone a "tax cheat" because they don''t sign over their whole paycheck to the government.

Message to state governments: You need to remember who you work for, the taxpayers...we do not work for you.
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by miriambk January 13, 2009 11:19 PM EST
Why am I not surprised at the political fat-cats wanting to get their greedy little paws on more of our hard-earned money? Any possible way for them to get more income to waste on Lord-only-knows-what sets their salivary glands into overdrive. B a s t a r d s !!!!!
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by cbscrash072 January 13, 2009 10:39 PM EST
As if I didn''t already pay way too much in taxes. Why don''t they just confiscate my paycheck?
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by spadeisspade January 13, 2009 9:40 PM EST
So let me get this straight. A business like Amazon would have to collect my state (and county, and town-gotta love Louisiana) taxes even though I am buying from them? That''s like telling me that I have to pay my state''s sales tax when I go buy something on vacation in another state.

I''m all for it being based on whatever state the business is in-that''s fair. Then major e-tailers like Amazon will move to my home state NH or Delaware, which would be all the better for their economy!!
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by observer2020 January 13, 2009 7:49 PM EST
Shop in Delaware...no sales tax! And I totally agree with lewiston14: "Hey States, don''t spend more than you take in." But that''s like talking to the wall...
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