Jan. 11, 2009
Did Speculation Fuel Oil Price Swings?
60 Minutes: Speculation Affected Oil Price Swings More Than Supply And Demand
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The Price Of Oil
The historic swings in oil prices last year were the result of financial speculation from Wall Street and not supply and demand. Steve Kroft investigates.
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So what happened? It's a complicated question, and there are lots of theories. But as correspondent Steve Kroft reports, many people believe it was a speculative bubble, not unlike the one that caused the housing crisis, and that it had more to do with traders and speculators on Wall Street than with oil company executives or sheiks in Saudi Arabia.
To understand what happened to the price of oil, you first have to understand the way it's traded. For years it has been bought and sold on something called the commodities futures market. At the New York Mercantile Exchange, it's traded alongside cotton and coffee, copper and steel by brokers who buy and sell contracts to deliver those goods at a certain price at some date in the future.
It was created so that farmers could gauge what their unharvested crops would be worth months in advance, so that factories could lock in the best price for raw materials, and airlines could manage their fuel costs. But more than a year ago those markets started to behave erratically. And when oil doubled to more than $147 a barrel, no one was more suspicious than Dan Gilligan.
As the president of the Petroleum Marketers Association, he represents more than 8,000 retail and wholesale suppliers, everyone from home heating oil companies to gas station owners.
When 60 Minutes talked to him last summer, his members were getting blamed for gouging the public, even though their costs had also gone through the roof. He told Kroft the problem was in the commodities markets, which had been invaded by a new breed of investor.
"Approximately 60 to 70 percent of the oil contracts in the futures markets are now held by speculative entities. Not by companies that need oil, not by the airlines, not by the oil companies. But by investors that are looking to make money from their speculative positions," Gilligan explained.
Gilligan said these investors don't actually take delivery of the oil. "All they do is buy the paper, and hope that they can sell it for more than they paid for it. Before they have to take delivery."
"They're trying to make money on the market for oil?" Kroft asked.
"Absolutely," Gilligan replied. "On the volatility that exists in the market. They make it going up and down."
He says his members in the home heating oil business, like Sean Cota of Bellows Falls, Vt., were the first to notice the effects a few years ago when prices seemed to disconnect from the basic fundamentals of supply and demand. Cota says there was plenty of product at the supply terminals, but the prices kept going up and up.
"We've had three price changes during the day where we pick up products, actually don't know what we paid for it and we'll go out and we'll sell that to the retail customer guessing at what the price was," Cota remembered. "The volatility is being driven by the huge amounts of money and the huge amounts of leverage that is going in to these markets."
About the same time, hedge fund manager Michael Masters reached the same conclusion. Masters' expertise is in tracking the flow of investments into and out of financial markets and he noticed huge amounts of money leaving stocks for commodities and oil futures, most of it going into index funds, betting the price of oil was going to go up.
Asked who was buying this "paper oil," Masters told Kroft, "The California pension fund. Harvard Endowment. Lots of large institutional investors. And, by the way, other investors, hedge funds, Wall Street trading desks were following right behind them, putting money - sovereign wealth funds were putting money in the futures markets as well. So you had all these investors putting money in the futures markets. And that was driving the price up."
In a five year period, Masters said the amount of money institutional investors, hedge funds, and the big Wall Street banks had placed in the commodities markets went from $13 billion to $300 billion. Last year, 27 barrels of crude were being traded every day on the New York Mercantile Exchange for every one barrel of oil that was actually being consumed in the United States.
"We talked to the largest physical trader of crude oil. And they told us that compared to the size of the investment inflows - and remember, this is the largest physical crude oil trader in the United States - they said that we are basically a flea on an elephant, that that's how big these flows were," Masters remembered.
Yet when Congress began holding hearings last summer and asked Wall Street banker Lawrence Eagles of J.P. Morgan what role excessive speculation played in rising oil prices, the answer was little to none. "We believe that high energy prices are fundamentally a result of supply and demand," he said in his testimony.
Produced by Leslie Cockburn
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See all 349 CommentsHere is all you need to know.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/20/AR2008082003898.html
We''ve known all along, this is old news.
All it was, was a huge money grab that the media got most Americans to buy off on....hook, line, and sinker.
Guess what administration was responsible.
then why weren''t these holes in the regulatory guidlines plugged when enron collapsed?
if this is true ... there''s a major failure of the system that allowed conditions that promoted one of the biggest scams of the 20th century to stand ... and just another example of how the representative process is terribly broken.
a nice indication of what''s to come as a result of the most recent abuses of the financial systems ... nothing at all!
Guess what administration was responsible. "
Over 8 years ago - that means Clinton was still in office.
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If the liberals want to get back at the rich oil men, they should stop driving their cars.
It is stunning to realize that more than three years since we pulled out of the Gaza Strip, evacuated our soldiers, and erased any sign of the small Jewish settlements there, we are still regarded as the aggressive occupiers! For three years the people of Gaza have been left to rule themselves, rebuild their city, and create better lives with no interference. In this time, the world community has poured millions of dollars and Euros into Gaza to establish services like education, health, welfare, commerce, and industry. This great three year opportunity has been wasted, for nothing has been accomplished except producing weapons, smuggling arms, training militants, and, most of all, shooting thousands of missiles at us. Did the international community ever demand that these terrorists stop? Did it ever demand a report of what has been done with the millions contributed to Gaza? No! When hypocrisy is the name of the game, this is what results.
I can understand the average person being unaware of the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza three years ago and of the fact that there is no justification to fire missiles at us. But for state leaders worldwide to fail to understand that it is time to stand strong against terror is nothing but stupidity and a clear expression of their weakness. They are inviting terrorism to their own countries, because if there is one thing that terrorism is capable of identifying, it is weakness in the leadership of its victims.
The countries with green technologies will rule the economic world. Oil will be up again to $100 per barrel. The Iraq war will cost $3 trillion. We need a huge program to get off of oil completely. Write your Congressman to support the Pickens plan or a green alternative. If Iran and Israel go to war of nukes expect oil to hit $200 plus per barrel if we can even get oil out of the Middle East without another war.
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The Congress makes regulatory law. They were Republicans at that time. The President can only regulate when regulation is mandated by Congress.
Gee, with all the ethanol we''re producing now, no wonder we''re in bad shape.
I am sick and tired of the Republican deregulation philosophy of the markets that started under the Reagan years. All we get from deregulation is a few at the very top making all the profits and the taxpayers get to assume all of the risk. The supply side economic theory has totally failed. Many Wall Street investment bank CEO''s need federal prison time for fraud and insider trading abuses.
Gee, with all the ethanol we''''''''re producing now, no wonder we''''''''re in bad shape.
Posted by newsjunky5
Sorry guys, some ethanol plants are closed/closing. Also, it''s true about negative energy to create ethanol from CORN. There are other, better alternatives than to mess with our food supply. Untended grasslands are much cheaper than oil intense CORN. Diesel, fertilizer, labor can all be much lower than presently. I am not a neocon, quite the contrary. My carbon footprint is very small. You have to optimize any process to make it as economically attractive as possible.
Posted by rharrin1
The cheney meetings??
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Good point. The Sierra Club sued and lost to gain the transcripts of those meetings. But with further evidence of wrongdoing and the oil price spike, maybe it''s time to try again.
Rightbehind - love that name.
No wait, the real question here is can we even catch the oilmen who did this. They are unlikely to reside in this country if this comes to light.
It''s obvious now - but people were saying it before - including the oil producing nations who showed that they were producing plenty to meet demand - but it''s so much easier to blame OPEC - than to realize it''s our prized market economy being manipulated.
It was obvious then too - when prices swing without any changes in oil production, at any excuse in the news - it''s clear that the prices are not based on supply and demand any longer.
The thermodynamic equation of ethanol production is not up to political debate. The fact is that ethanol takes more energy to produce than you get from it because heat is rejected in the distillation process. That is not to say that it may not be economically and environmentally feasible. If solar energy production capacity were to be expanded to the point where its economy of scale makes it cheap, then we could use that energy to produce low cost ethanol. As I%u2019m sure you know, ethanol use is a closed carbon loop, thus being a zero sum gain for atmospheric CO2.
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The people who worked for companies like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs did this. Read the article.
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It''s the same people who just got the $800 Billion bailout.
Man, it''s so unbelieveable that the majority of our population can''t connect the dots.
The free market capitalizm therory only works if you can keep GREED out of it.
Since greed is inhearent human nature the free market will not work.
I thought speculation had something to do with oil prices. People always blame the oil companies, but they buy most of their oil and can''t control the price. Politicians get power by telling the public "it''s so and so''s fault", and then telling people if you''ll just give me a little authority, I can fix it for you. Hitler was very good at it. We''ll see if Obama can be as convincing. Shame on CBS for implying there was a conspircy by Wall Street.
I thought speculation had something to do with oil prices. People always blame the oil companies, but they buy most of their oil and can''''t control the price. Politicians get power by telling the public "it''''s so and so''''s fault", and then telling people if you''''ll just give me a little authority, I can fix it for you. Hitler was very good at it. We''''ll see if Obama can be as convincing. Shame on CBS for implying there was a conspircy by Wall Street.
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Posted by hdc77494
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California had rolling blackouts because Enron played pirate with the power lines. If it had been what you say, then they would have still had rolling blackouts after Enrons fall.
I am surprised this article is just now coming out.
Bits and pieces have been coming out over since last July about this issue.
Even the Saudis came out and said that something was wrong--that based on supply and demand the price should have been @ $70.0 per barrel...and that was when the price had jumped to almost $150.0 per barrel.
Oh and by the way....do you know who deregulated Oil just before Bush came in office in 2000......THE DEMOCRATS.
I have been saying since then that the Democrats were setting up the Republicans for a bad economy.
Yes...those Dems knew exactly what they were doing I''m pretty sure. They knew that deregulation would send prices skyrocketing from trading speculation in futures.
You don''t have to be a rocket scientist...just a good and informed observant to see whats been going on.
The hedgefund investors I''m pretty sure are all probably friends of the democrats.
Anyway...when Obama says he wants a big windfall tax on the oil companies...really that tax should go to the hedgefund investors.
They were the real cause of the outrageous prices of gas for the past few years.....not the Oil Companies making record profits as the liberal media and Obama keep trying to make the world believe.
Yes...the big huge profits have been issued to the hedgefund investors and that is where most of the profit went.
I have not heard much about those losses...but I know they have got to be huge....
do you think we also partly bailed out the banks for
those losses to?
I mean usually it is the Democrats who always want regulation is it not?....So then....of all things to vote for deregulating...I find it highly suspicious that so many democrats agreed to de-regulate. Not normal behavior for a dem.
www.longislandpress.com/articles/CoverStory/84/
This piece identifies the real architects of the scheme as only the alternative press can do.
This being said, the US needs to adopt the strict new California environmental standards into the Federal Code. We also need to adopt the Pickens'' energy plan and make it part of the stimulus package in Congress today. All American cars built need to get 50 MPG or be plug-in electric hybrids. Trucks need to be run on natural gas. We must recycle everything. All buildings need to be highly insulated and energy efficient. Solar, wind and geothermal power backed up by natural gas is the blue print for a green energy policy in the 21st century.
Little discussion is had on the tremendous fall in the value of the dollar, and it''s effects. In my oppinion the collapse of the dollar and the steep increase of commodities (especially oil) caused the worldwide inflation that has led to the worldwide economic downturn. Luckily for us the dollar recovered and commodities came down just in time to keep our economy from shattering. The problem will come when the tremendous influx of faux money just injected into the economy further devalues the dollar. We will eventually see another collapse of the dollar along with commodity inflation from this unbacked money being injected into the economy.
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