NEW YORK, Jan. 6, 2009

Scientology's Views On Death

The Early Show: Principles Likely To Play Role In Jett Travolta's Funeral

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    The funeral for Jett Travolta has people wondering what Scientologists believe about spirituality and how they mourn, reports Hattie Kauffman.

  • Jett Travolta in undated family photo

    Jett Travolta in undated family photo  (AP Photo/Rogers & Cowan)

(CBS)  The funeral of John Travolta's son, Jett, will be held in Florida.

The ceremony will most likely involve tenets of the Church of Scientology, the faith of Travolta and his wife, Kelly Preston Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman observed Tuesday.

Jett Travolta, 16, died Friday at the family vacation home in the Bahamas. Funeral home officials say the cause of death was a seizure disorder.

And, Kauffman says, while there will be mourning for Jett, Scientologists believe his spirit is still alive.

"The mood of the funeral or the ceremony itself would not be a very sad one," former Scientologist Bruce Hines says. He's presided over Scientologist funerals.

In Scientology doctrine, Hines explained, "the body that you have ceases to work. It dies for whatever reason, and then you go and, for example, they say you would go to a hospital and find some baby being born and you would decide to inhabit that body."

Call it reincarnation, with a twist, Kauffman suggests. That spirit is called a thetan.

"Scientologists believe that thetans have been attached to bodies in past lives and that this pattern of attachment will continue well onto the future," points out Stephen Kent, professor of sociology and alternative religions at the University of Alberta.

"At one point during the history of Scientology," Hines notes, "they said you had to dodge these alien beings who will try to trap you and give you an implant."

Most scientologists cremate their dead, Kauffman says. The Travolta had Jett's body cremated.

Says Kent, "The founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, was cremated. ... Because the body is de-emphasized in the Scientology belief system, likely it doesn't really matter a whole lot what happens to the body itself."

To lose a child after illness is especially difficult for Scientologists, Kauffman adds, because they believe 70 percent of disease is psychosomatic.

"If you are sick," Hines says, "you definitely have something you need to deal with on a mental and spiritual level.

"The other possibility," says Kent, "is to believe the thetan had some issues in past lives that it was working out by incarnating in a challenged body."

In Jett's case, Kauffman concludes, the challenge was seizures.

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by johncarl54 January 8, 2009 2:37 PM EST
err, ahh, what? you just find a baby and take over it''s body? what happens to that baby''s spirit, kick it out? it is not for nothing that l. ron wrote science fiction. idiots...
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by hayleesnanny January 8, 2009 11:26 AM EST
What a mistake.

GOD decides these things, not man. I must say I''m disapointed to know that God is not a Part of Johns life or Kellies.

Jett is gone, who they follow will determine if they see Jett again... In HEAVEN.

While I''m truly sorry for their Loss, I know how hard it must be.

But the grieving process needs to be dealt with instead of some man saying, he isnt dead, just searching for another body.

God Bless this family and help them with their grief, show them the light and let them serve no God but YOU.



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by jazzer9 January 8, 2009 12:15 AM EST
I wonder what baby use to be Hitler or Saddam? After you reach the highest level where do you go from there?
The article states as follows:
they say you would go to a hospital and find some baby being born and you would decide to inhabit that body."
"At one point during the history of Scientology," Hines notes, "they said you had to dodge these alien beings who will try to trap you and give you an implant."

I don''t care how you sugar coat it-that is just plain creepy.
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by barbie49 January 7, 2009 6:44 PM EST
Watch "What the Bleep Do We Know" You''ll find that science is beginning to line up with many religions teach.
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Religion, any religion, is the scourge of mankind.

It disables your mind, keeping you from accepting truth and science.

"Who is the more foolish...........the fool or the fool that follows him?."
(Quoted from Star Wars)

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by impeach_o January 7, 2009 6:41 PM EST
When you die, you''''re gone. You''''re done. You don''''t exist any longer, like every other creature on this planet when they die. Just because humans have the ability to think, does not mean we go anywhere different than any other creature on earth.


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Posted by sly_64 at 08:22 AM : Jan 07, 2009
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if that IS WHAT YOU THINK then you have that right as I respect that...

now can you be the same?
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by impeach_o January 7, 2009 6:39 PM EST
Religion, any religion, is the scourge of mankind.

It disables your mind, keeping you from accepting truth and science.

"Who is the more foolish...........the fool or the fool that follows him?."
(Quoted from Star Wars)


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Posted by tibu987 at 07:28 PM : Jan 06, 2009
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that is why the ideology of athiesm invented the MTV..to fill in that vacumm
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by barbie49 January 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST
Please read, Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss.

I''m no chemist or scientist but here''s my take. Humans are energy. Energy, once created, can not be destroy. It can be transferred but not destroyed. Our spirit is this energy source. When we die it leaves our bodies. Even Christians believe that we are all spirit and that the spirit lives after it leaves the body.

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by churscientny January 7, 2009 4:48 PM EST
Any child''s death is horrible to imagine.

Please spend 5 minutes searching for information about Scientology. The answers to the worlds problems can only be solved by Scientology. Oh, if you come across anything that calls it a cult - please don''t read that stuff. Education is King and Scientology may already be in your neighborhood disguised as? "Applied Scholastics" "Narconon" "Criminon" ...
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by sly_64 January 7, 2009 11:22 AM EST
When you die, you''re gone. You''re done. You don''t exist any longer, like every other creature on this planet when they die. Just because humans have the ability to think, does not mean we go anywhere different than any other creature on earth.
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by barbaram99 January 7, 2009 3:39 AM EST
Their views on death are scarey. It is a cult. could never handle their idea of death. I would not want to be born into a new born baby again. Nope.
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by standlee5 January 7, 2009 2:06 AM EST
At one point during the history of Scientology," Hines notes, "they said you had to dodge these alien beings who will try to trap you and give you an implant."


OK, this just screams for an investigation. Interesting how these famous people''s kids always die in the Bahamas getting around any investigations.
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by standlee5 January 7, 2009 2:01 AM EST
If the parent''s believed the illness was psychosomatic and they think the dead just find a new body to inhbit (did I get that right? whoa) then shouldn''t the parent''s be investigated regardless of whether they''re rich and famous. You can bet any Evangelical Christian, Muslim, Mormon would certainly get a thorough investigation.
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by jazzer9 January 6, 2009 11:40 PM EST
People say it is hard to grasp the concept of God. To me it is harder to grasp the concept of this scientology teaching. Scientology seems to complicated. At least with God-it is all for good and you don''t have to work at it because of something you''ve done in some former life. I don''t understand why people hate Christians. Most are for good and want good things for all people. All a person has to do is accept God as their savior. Not really that complicated.
Well, I do pray for the Travolta family on so many levels. That has to be a great lost. But, it doesn''t sound like it is a big deal to them. He is just invading some other other baby''s body.
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by tibu987 January 6, 2009 10:28 PM EST

Religion, any religion, is the scourge of mankind.

It disables your mind, keeping you from accepting truth and science.

"Who is the more foolish...........the fool or the fool that follows him?."
(Quoted from Star Wars)
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by johnbryansfontaine January 6, 2009 10:18 PM EST
VNo parent, whether as otherwise famous and fortunate as John Travolta, should have to see his or her own child die. It is as equally tragic whether for a major Hollywood actor or any of the hundreds of millions of parents in the world''s poorest nations.

And unlike Hollywood''s other top Scientologist, Mr. Travolta has never made a fool of himself by bouncing on couches, condemning Brooke Shields for using Paxil, stating that psychiatry "is a Nazi science", or that methadone was actually originally called Adolophine after Adolf Hitler, ect. Mr. Travolta has spoken - and outstandingly - through his work.

However, and the questions need to be asked, considering the stellar medical claims of Scientology*, why did Travolta''s son even have medical problems or have these conditions cause the son''s death?

*Cure arthritis History of Man p. 7 "Today, Eleanor has arthritis. She is audited... tonight she doesn''t have arthritis"

Raise the dead Magazine Articles on Level 0 Checksheet 1968, "Dissemination of Material" p.75 "A child had died, was dead, had been pronounced dead by a doctor, and the auditor, by calling the thetan back and ordering him to take over the body again brought the child to life."

Cure cancer THE HISTORY OF MAN (1961) P. 20
"Cancer has been eradicated by auditing out conception and mitosis."

from http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/medclaims.htm


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by vranger January 6, 2009 9:25 PM EST
"Except these past event happened thousands of years ago to an alien being that has captured your body and soul for its own use!"

What a truly ignorant, unbelieveably stupid fool you are! ROFL That has nothing to do with what I wrote about nor about what Scientology does to to alleviate psychosis.
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by aj032980 January 6, 2009 8:36 PM EST
Please!! aliens OMG. What would our creator say. No wonder California is in such a mess, These people make to much money and are living in a Hollywood Set, They fund this so called church with there gold and gifts to a man that truley beleive that they are in anothers body. What. This is science fiction"Scientology" thats it...These pore people are lead by ther pocket books.
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by aj032980 January 6, 2009 8:28 PM EST
Life is to short to not search for the greater one. I know if there is a God I want to meet Him. If Not I have had a very Blessed life. Yes, I have had lots of mountains to climb.. But when I pray, God Listens, you know how I know. He''s answered all my prayers, with 6 happy, healthy, very intellegent educated children, they are all succesfull. most of They Beleive
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by aj032980 January 6, 2009 8:24 PM EST
Oh My Lord!!! We sing rejoyce in our own way. May we beleive in Scientology or our our type of religion. I have read and seen many types of non-religious lives. When we better ourselves we become the ones to take credit. Mind over matter, Thats what the Bible teaches us. Learn to pray against the bad and praise yourself when your good. So, If one believes in Himself, He believes in the God Almighty. I refuse to find out otherwise I wouldn''t want to face the unlikely consiquences. All Children in eyes of the Lord are saved. Amen,God Bless America
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by yongamerica January 6, 2009 8:05 PM EST
OMG Poor poor Jett (humming a Wings tune)is off to Venus for his ritual of deprogramming and abuse. Jett was controlled by this alien, his parents never knew who the real Jett was. Poor real Jett, who could never get over the influence of his Thetan slave master.

CLEAR!
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