India Hands Mumbai Evidence To Pakistan

Pakistan Starts Pouring Over Alleged Links To Terror Attack, But Insists No Extraditions

(CBS/AP)  India handed evidence Monday to Pakistan that it says links the deadly Mumbai attacks to Pakistani "elements" and called on authorities across the border to investigate further and help bring the culprits to justice.

India has blamed the November attacks that killed 164 people on Pakistani-based militants, but Pakistan has denied the accusations saying India had yet to provide proof.

Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon gave evidence to the Pakistani High Commissioner in New Delhi on Monday linking the attacks to "elements in Pakistan," said Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

The evidence included material from the interrogation of the lone surviving gunman, details of conversations between the gunmen and their alleged handlers in Pakistan, recovered weapons, and data from satellite phones.

"This material is linked to elements in Pakistan," an official statement said. "It is our expectation that the government of Pakistan will promptly undertake further investigations in Pakistan and share the results with us so as to bring the perpetrators to justice."

"The material has been received from India. The concerned people are now examining it," a senior Pakistani foreign ministry official told CBS News' Farhan Bokhari, confirming receipt of the intelligence dossier.

Pakistani officials, however, reiterated their refusal to hand over any suspects to India in connection with the terrorist attacks, instead renewing their standing offer to cooperate with their neighbor in the investigation, reported Bokhari, from Islamabad.

The foreign ministry official, who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity, said it was too early to say if Pakistan would use the information handed over by the Indians to prosecute anyone. "There are bits of information, such as transcripts of conversations between the Mumbai gunmen and their supposed backers in Pakistan. Whether this information will be upheld by a court of law is impossible to know."

A second high-ranking Pakistani government official repeated that official position, telling Bokhari, "We do not have an extradition treaty with the Indians. Any prosecution will have to take place in a Pakistani court of law."

India has blamed the three-day siege on Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), a militant group based in Pakistan, where authorities have arrested at least two men accused of planning the attacks and launched a nationwide crackdown on a charity believed to be a front for the LeT.

India has called on Pakistan to hand over the suspects and dismantle the terror network they say is based across the border. Pakistani leaders say they will try any suspects in the attacks in their own courts.

Among the militant suspects Pakistani authorities have detained are Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, a commander of the LeT, and Abrar Shah, a senior LeT figure believed by Indian officials to have planned the attacks, reported Bokhari.

The LeT is officially banned in Pakistan, but Indian and Western officials say its representatives have worked freely under the banner of Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), an Islamic charity. In December, Pakistan also banned JuD and ordered the freezing of its bank accounts.

Western diplomat have recently told CBS News that a failure to resolve the dispute could push India to carry out a small-scale attack targeting specific suspected militant locations in Pakistan. The danger is that Pakistan might retaliate and provoke a wider conflict between the two nuclear-armed neighbors.

In the wake of the Mumbai siege, tensions between the rivals have been high, with Pakistan redeploying troops toward India and away from the Afghan border, where authorities are battling militants.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars against each other since they gained independence in 1947, but Indian leaders have made clear they do not want to fight a fourth war. India has been careful not to blame the attacks on the Pakistani government, and Monday's statement again accused "elements in Pakistan," an apparent reference to militant groups.

Pakistan's leaders have recently sought a conciliatory stance. Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said Sunday the country wanted "good relations with its neighbors. Good relations with India is in the interest of Pakistan. Stability in the region will benefit Pakistan."

Much of India's evidence against the militants comes from interrogations of Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the only gunmen to survive the attacks. He has reportedly told authorities that he and nine others were Pakistani, and that he was trained in Pakistan and that his handlers are still there.

Pakistan has said it has no record of Kasab as a Pakistani citizen.

The Mumbai attacks began Nov. 26 and lasted for nearly three days. The 10 gunmen attacked 10 sites across India's financial capital, including two five-star hotels, the main train station, popular restaurants and a Jewish center.

The U.S. has sent a string of envoys to the region in recent weeks to help defuse tensions. U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher arrived in Islamabad on Monday to meet with top Pakistani government officials, the American Embassy in the Pakistani capital confirmed. Embassy spokesman Lou Fintor declined to give specifics of Boucher's meetings but said "regional issues" would be discussed.

[alphaa10000]

At least the two sides are talking-- and that is thhe best news.

Since Pres. Zardari has a fragile government, at best, he cannot be held to answer for violent elements which resist even his authority.

And it is quite possible Zardari was deliberately placed in the middle by al Qaeda elements, which have used the tactic of inciting war between rivals, before.

Al Qaeda leader Zarqawi actually planned for long-term sectarian civil war in Iraqi and conducted the attack which set it off. Likewise, al Qaeda cannot wait to embroil India and Pakistan in war.

No matter who "wins" such a war, al Qaeda hopes increased animosity to India will isolate it from its neighbors, and pressure even Afghanistan''s president Karzai.

[livewire190]

At least the two sides are talking-- and that is thhe best news.

Since Pres. Zardari has a fragile government, at best, he cannot be held to answer for violent elements which resist even his authority.

And it is quite possible Zardari was deliberately placed in the middle by al Qaeda elements, which have used the tactic of inciting war between rivals, before.

Al Qaeda leader Zarqawi actually planned for long-term sectarian civil war in Iraqi and conducted the attack which set it off. Likewise, al Qaeda cannot wait to embroil India and Pakistan in war.

No matter who "wins" such a war, al Qaeda hopes increased animosity to India will isolate it from its neighbors, and pressure even Afghanistan''''s president Karzai.


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Posted by alphaa10000 at 04:44 AM : Jan 05, 2009

Now who made you the expert in knowing this?

[thegoodtexan]

The terrorist in Pakistan can be traced back to the Al-Quiada network set up by George Bush Senior, Head of the CIA and Donald Rumsfeldt. They were established to kill Russians in Afghanistan. Those two should be extradited to India. Does that mean we will be prosecuting them as terrorist??

[desertpro]

Thegoodtexan: One problem with the rules of engagemnet on these sites is some on can post the obsurd lies and attacks on people and then sit back knowing they won''t get called on it as site monitors will allow anything to be said about someone but will not allow the poster to be "attacked". well lets try and do this without ''attacking" you as you choose to attack the elder Bush. First of all in th 80s was stationed with a USMC FAAD unit. that stands for Forward area air defence. (stinger Missle Battery) We trained the Pakistani forces that trained the Afgan rebels. Contrary to your uninform rant the Al Qaeda and teliban did not yet exsist. The Taliban started in Kandahar about 10 years after the war based on a Incident of rape. Bin Laudin started the Al Qaeda (which means Base in Arabic) in the early 90s. Also, I was called back into service after 911 and served three times overseas including 2006 and 2007 in OIF as a Provost. So I am fairly sure that only one of us has actualy met these folks. You sir are the kind on "conspiricy theorist" that is putting the nation in great danger. Get your arss out of Texas for once and find the truth not the wacked out trash you take of the net for truth but the real truth you can only get by being there.

[wolf563]

morphndol8 : Thank you for your sevices .The world is much safer with men/women like you .

[goosfraba2]

Pakistan is approaching 100% on my Rogue Meter as an untrustworthy country. That it would deny any involvement in the Mumbai massacre originating from within Pakistan is beyond being incredulous.

Until the Pakistani leadership confronts those individuals/organizations responsible for the Mumbai attack, they will continue to look foolish, incompetent, and/or as liars.

Will Pakistan do the good deed and acknowledge the involvement of some of their countrymen in the Mumbai massacre? I am holding my breadth in anticipation that they will do the good deed.

[goosfraba2]

desertpro at 09:28 AM : Jan 05, 2009

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I, too, was in FAAD on the East Coast. Platoon Commander and, later, OpsO.

Who are you?

[alanw1077]

Pakistan will just toss the report in the trash and laugh. They have no intention of ever stopping the Jihadists within their own borders. Only way to stop them is to bomb the holy he*ll out of Pakistan.

[alanw1077]

"Those two should be extradited to India. Does that mean we will be prosecuting them as terrorist?? "


TheGoodTexan, no, it means you''ve missed so many doses of your meds you''ve lost touched with reality.

[antoniof123]

Do we really need to be the police of the world why not bring our people home and trade with them but tell them this.

Attack us and we will carpet bomb your country!

That would solve much of our problems.

[presjfk]

We do not have an extradition treaty with the Indians. Any prosecution will have to take place in a Pakistani court of law.
Pakistani government official"

News flash, you do not need an extradition treaty. Just hand over the terrorists. Comments suggest Pakistan is a nation of laws. Well its not.

[dapsugarwily]

Can''t we all just get along??

[trumpetstuff]

CBS subhead:

Pakistan Starts Pouring Over Alleged Links To Terror Attack, But Insists No Extraditions

Pouring what? I think you wanted to say "poring." :-)

[clathrate]

Anybody can prove that Pakistan does never harbor terrorists. Lets put the REAL PROVEN facts together....

Pakistan is a country of Islam

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Posted by signtwo

Yeah, lets get the facts in order. The Taliban have taken over Waziristan, Peshawar and the whole of the Swat valley. Pakistan is now the main training ground for Islamic terrorists, and gives shelter to Al Qaeda.

You half-literate Pakis never fail to amaze me with your half-baked lies and deception. If you truly loved Islam you''d get rid of the terrorist elements, but no, you coddle them, support them and donate money to them. You are no better than the terrorists you support you coward.

[questionnews]

Pakistan is a country of Islam

Islam is religion of PEACE and completely NON-VIOLENT. Islams LOVES and SINCERELY RESPECT each and every person of the world from EVERY RELIGION

therefore it is proven that Pakistan is a country of PEACE alwyas chase away terrorist.

Pakistan also ALWAYS help in removing terrorists from every country.

Posted by signtwo at 12:42 PM : Jan 05, 2009

That was funny!! I blew coffee on my screen. Please keep the comedy coming! You''re like a Robin Williams!

[prelgovisk]

There is a possible WIN-WIN in this for the USA.

1. The force in Afganistan is multi-national. Let India contribute more and more soldiers every day until they fill the region on the Afgan/Pakistan border.

2. Pakistan would have more of a motivation to send troops to this region and thus give them the ablility to seal borders they now lament are to difficult to patrol.

3. Pakistan would also have to divide its army and lessen the threat on the Indian border.

4. With may Indian troops in Afganistan, we might actually get some of those elusive terrorists.

5. The Indian army active in the Middle East gives us a Second Front to divide Islamic forces now focused on US troops or fixated on Israel. Give them a billion angry Hindus to worry about.

[rusure5]

The chances that Pakistan was behind these attacks are negligible.

They would stand nothing to gain, and everything to lose.

Here is a far more likely possibility:

Why the Israelis might be behind these attacks-

Motive:

The Israelis have an open hatred and fear of all Muslims.

The Israelis know Pakistan is one of the least stable countries in this region of Muslim countries.

The Israelis are making billions of dollars selling weapons and "training" to the Indian government.

The Indians are already paranoid about Pakistan, and the Israelis know that it wouldn''t take much to coax India into blaming Pakistan for the attacks.

The Israelis would very much like to see the rest of the world hate and fear Muslims as much as they do.

Means:

The Israelis have the planners and weaponry needed to orchestrate a sophisticated attack like this.

The Israelis have the ability to transport attackers into the area undetected.

The Israelis have the ability to analyze security vulnerabilities and to exploit them.

Opportunity:

The Israelis have been training the Indian security forces for some time now.

The Israelis are sending %u201Cinvestigators%u201D to the scene, giving them an opportunity to reach whatever conclusions they would like to about who is responsible for the attacks.

And, as we have seen, the Israelis have no qualms about killing non-Zionist Israelis, anywhere in the world, in order to further their nefarious goals, as we a re seeing right now in Gaza.

[questionnews]

The Israelis are sending %u201Cinvestigators%u201D to the scene, giving them an opportunity to reach whatever conclusions they would like to about who is responsible for the attacks.

And, as we have seen, the Israelis have no qualms about killing non-Zionist Israelis, anywhere in the world, in order to further their nefarious goals, as we a re seeing right now in Gaza.

Posted by rusure5 at 02:29 PM : Jan 05, 2009

Wow, that was like a Reader''s Digest version of a Tom Clancey book. It''s a fine theory except the people involved were all identified as Pakistani and most of them had records proving they were trained in either the Pakistan military or a terrorist training camp. But may I help add some credibility too your theory/story?
June 2, 1986. Israeli''s surgically alter the appearance of dozens of Jewish babies to make them look Arab and smuggled them into Pakistan and then into Pakistani families without them knowing it. Then, after fully integrating into Muslim society for over 20 years, The Israelis send out a secure broadcast frequency activating the brain control chips implanted into the babies at infancy & bang they convert back to the highly trained covert Israeli operatives they were breed to be!! They recall the instructions & weapons training implanted into them as babies. They secure weapons, arrange transportation and pull off the greatest covert operation the world has ever seen!!
Yea! That''s what happened!!

If you use this, I want a cut of the royalties.

[rusure5]

RE: "It''s a fine theory except the people involved were all identified as Pakistani and most of them had records proving they were trained in either the Pakistan military or a terrorist training camp."

That''s funny that your are citing ''proof'' of this nonsense, while the very title of this article suggests that the supporting evidence for Indian/US/Israeli claims is being handed over to Pakistan only just now.

Looks like you don''t have any idea what you are talking about.

Are you Israeli or a Zionist?

[notblue]

rusure, are you a skinhead or just anti-semetic?

[questionnews]

Looks like you don''''t have any idea what you are talking about.

Are you Israeli or a Zionist?

Posted by rusure5 at 03:18 PM : Jan 05, 2009


Naw, Just like irritating irrational paranoid conspiracy wack-jobs & watch them get all defensive & insulted when someone doesn''t buy into their random brainfarts. I''ll believe (with a grain of salt) the current reports out of the mainstream news sources until a better source is available as opposed to some anonymous poster with a racist vendetta against Jews.
Remember not to be late to the Waffen-SS costume party tonight.

[rusure5]

As I mentioned before, the chances that Pakistan was behind these attacks are negligible.

They would stand nothing to gain, and everything to lose.

Here is a far more likely possibility:

Why the Israelis might be behind these attacks-

Motive:

The Israelis have an open hatred and fear of all Muslims.

The Israelis know Pakistan is one of the least stable countries in this region of Muslim countries.

The Israelis are making billions of dollars selling weapons and "training" to the Indian government.

The Indians are already paranoid about Pakistan, and the Israelis know that it wouldn''''t take much to coax India into blaming Pakistan for the attacks.

The Israelis would very much like to see the rest of the world hate and fear Muslims as much as they do.

Means:

The Israelis have the planners and weaponry needed to orchestrate a sophisticated attack like this.

The Israelis have the ability to transport attackers into the area undetected.

The Israelis have the ability to analyze security vulnerabilities and to exploit them.

Opportunity:

The Israelis have been training the Indian security forces for some time now.

The Israelis are sending %u201Cinvestigators%u201D to the scene, giving them an opportunity to reach whatever conclusions they would like to about who is responsible for the attacks.

And, as we have seen, the Israelis have no qualms about killing civilians, anywhere in the world, in order to further their nefarious goals, as we are seeing right now in Gaza.

[j_mack5]

We always forget the Golden Rule: "Do not do unto others what you would not want them do unto you".

Google "Pakistan reveals LTTE-India links" to learn how India is involved in global terror.

Google "LTTE Tamil Nadu Switzerland" to learn more about LTTE Terrorists operating in Switzerland and Tamil Nadu, India.

Were you aware that when the LTTE Terrorists were starting out in the 80''s, the first terrorist training camps were openly based in Tamil Nadu, India? Weapons to arm this viscous terror group were supplied by Tamils living there and funded by Tamils worldwide. The Indian government headed by then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and the state of Tamil Nadu did nothing to stop it. Governments worldwide knew about the narco-terrorism and funding for arms run by Tamils, but did almost nothing. As you know, today Tamil Nadu India is used extensively as an illegal arms smuggling base to terrorists in Sri Lanka by the Tamils and is great example where a state government can be successfully manipulated to serve global terror. In October, 2008, the LTTE Terrorists thanked the Tamil Nadu government for their attempts to spread false propaganda to stop the military campaign to liberate LTTE held areas. Google "FBI LTTE" to learn more about the most coldblooded terrorist org in the world.

[toolmangler-2009]

And, as we have seen, the Israelis have no qualms about killing civilians, anywhere in the world, in order to further their nefarious goals, as we are seeing right now in Gaza.
Posted by rusure5 at 03:47 PM : Jan 05, 2009




you seem to really hate the Jews. according to you, Jews are the only ones that are committing terrorist attacks against the world. Are you Muslim ?

[cbscrash072]

Really? Its Israel''s fault? Ok! This is the part were I question your intelligence and examine your ancestry for any animal human hybrids.

[rusure5]

re: "you seem to really hate the Jews. according to you, Jews are the only ones that are committing terrorist attacks against the world. Are you Muslim ?"

Posted by ToolMangler

You seem to be misinformed. Many/most Jews do not support Israeli terrorism and atrocities. Also, most Zionists are not Jewish, but are Christians.

Please educate yourself and get your terminology straight if you would like to discuss this topic with me.

The Zionists, Israeli and otherwise, are definitely committing the majority of terrorist attacks around the world.

This is hardly a surprise to anyone familiar with the depraved, sub-human, and sociopathic nature of the Zionist.

I am not religious, which gives me a big advantage over religious folks in determining right from wrong.

Are you a Zionist?

Or a "Christian"?

[rusure5]

RE: "This is the part were I question your intelligence and examine your ancestry for any animal human hybrids."

Posted by cbscrash072

Sounds like something that a depraved Zionist might do.

[ddaymichael]

I am not religious, which gives me a big advantage over religious folks in determining right from wrong.

Are you a Zionist?

Or a "Christian"?

Posted by rusure5

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I''m neither, raghead, but I do know what kind of BS rationalization you creatures use to justify your murderous deeds. If you send rockets into Israel, or send some reterded kid into a crowded disco and Israel retaliates, you go into your crying routine..."Oh *** oh dear, look what those terrible Israelis are doing to us now."

"Now this gives us the right..."

You''re all a glob of murdering scum who think the Koran is your, "Get out of hell free card"

It ain''t!

And as to the 70 virgins, what did they ever do to deserve creeps like you?

[rusure5]

ddaymichael,

I was not talking to you.

You write just like a depraved Zionist apologist that I know of named Michael Totten.

Your tantrum and your blind fear of Muslims is indicative of the brain-wasting disease known as Zionism.

Zionists appear to be afraid of their own shadows, so they lash out wildly in all directions.

They are governed by their own cowardice. That''s why they are destined for elimination, thankfully.

[goosfraba2]

Religion sucks. John Lennon said it correctly in his song "Imagine". Which I am listening to right now.

The two, absolutely, worst religions in the world today are Islam and Christianity. Both are filled with so much hate and irresponsibility that the rest of us wonder what the heck is/are their problem(s)? Their philosophies are based on false premises and abject nonsense.

I firmly believe that if WE could rid ourselves of these two religions we, the world, would be so much better off. Just get rid of them!

Peace to all.

[clicktex]

What are they "pouring" on it? I am pouring derision on the quality of the editing at CBS.