The True Price Of Auto Labor Costs

While UAW Is Blamed For Detroit's Troubles, Comparison To Wages Paid By Foreign Carmakers Isn't Whole Story

(CBS)  One of the stipulations made by President Bush in Friday's announcement that the White House will offer up to $17.4 billion in loans to struggling U.S. automakers is that General Motors and Chrysler will have to make their compensation competitive with what foreign automakers pay employees at their U.S. plants.

Wages were a key sticking point in the failure of the House's auto bailout bill (which the White House supported) when it arrived on the Senate's doorstep.

But wages aren't the whole story.

Hour By Hour

When Congress debated the bailout package for Detroit, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and other Republicans had demanded that wages and benefits for employees of U.S. automakers needed to be renegotiated to match the lesser overall compensation that foreign carmakers like Toyota, Honda and Nissan pay at their U.S. plants.

The Associated Press reported that, for example, the average United Auto Workers member makes $29.78 per hour at GM, while Toyota pays its workers (most of whom are non-union) about $30 per hour. However, when total benefits (including pensions and health care for workers, retirees and their spouses) is factored in, GM's total hourly labor costs is about $69, while Toyota's is about $48.

The Japanese automaker has fewer retirees in the U.S., and its health care benefits and pensions are less generous than those negotiated between Detroit and the UAW. Another key point is that health costs and pensions for auto workers in Japan - worth billions - are subsidized by the Japanese government. Not so in the U.S.

UAW representatives were wary of renegotiating its contracts again, after having already settled for lower wages in its contract talks with GM earlier this year. [New hires at GM are paid $14-$16 an hour; Ford and Chrysler also pay new hires less; this has stirred the companies to offer buyout packages to their older workers.]

Last week UAW President Ron Gettelfinger told CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric that labor has already sacrificed a tremendous amount in order to support the auto industry. "Are we willing to do more? Yes, we will."

The union made concessions in its last few rounds of contract talks, and also agreed earlier this month to reduce benefits for laid-off workers and accept deferred payments into the trust fund set up for retired workers. GM, for one, was scheduled to pay $7 billion into the fund by the end of the month.

Union leaders warn that benchmarking wages of its members with those of non-union workers at auto plants run by foreign companies may be brought down even further, as those companies seek to cut their labor costs.

The Detroit Free Press reported last week that it had obtained an internal Toyota report which said the company should align its hourly wages with the prevailing manufacturing pay in the state rather than those of competitors in the auto sector, with the goal of cutting an expected $900 million increase in worker compensation by 2011 by one-third.

And other manufacturing jobs, on average, pay less. In Kentucky, for example, Toyota workers in Georgetown earn about $30 per hour, while the median wage in the state for manufacturing jobs, according to the Department of Labor, is $12.64.

Hourly pay and benefits must also be adjusted geographically. For example, the cost of living for a worker in Detroit, Mich. is more than 8 percent higher than that of a worker in Chattanooga, Tenn., and nearly 10 percent higher than in San Antonio, Tex.

Government Subsidies

State and local subsidies to foreign-owned auto assembly plants have totaled $3.6 billion, to fund the construction of new operations or to expand existing ones. This has helped make BMW, Honda, Mercedes Benz, Nissan, Toyota and Volkswagen more competitive in the United States, thanks to U.S. taxpayers.

Good Jobs First, a non-profit based in Washington, D.C., reported last week that incentives (in the form of land discounts, infrastructure aid, property and sales tax exemptions, income tax credits, and training grants) were granted to six foreign car companies by Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia.

Greg LeRoy, executive director of Good Jobs First, said that while the proposed federal aid to Detroit automakers would take the form of a loan (with an expectation of being paid back), "the vast majority of subsidies to foreign auto plants were taxpayer gifts."

Such subsidies have been responsible for bringing new jobs and tax revenues into depressed areas, such as when Nissan opened its first North American plant in Smyrna, Tenn. in the early 1980s - aided by generous tax breaks.

In the 10 years since foreign automakers began producing cars or engines in Alabama, automobiles have become the state's leading export at more than $5.4 billion last year. The state's automotive industry now represents 11 percent of the state’s manufacturing GDP. So the state's investment of approximately $800 million to lure Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Hyundai and Toyota to Alabama proved farsighted.

This year Volkswagen announced it is opening a plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., which is expected to add about 2,000 jobs from the Tennessee/Georgia/Alabama area. The 1,350-acre industrial park land parcel was offered to Volkswagen at no cost. Estimated value: $81 million. Other incentives are expected to surpass $300 million.

In West Point, Ga., Kia is building a plant that will create 2,500 nonunion jobs (starting at $14 per hour), plus an additional 2,500 jobs for parts suppliers, thanks in part to the $400 million in tax breaks and other incentives that Kia received from state and local governments.

But such U.S. taxpayer handouts don’t always go smoothly. It was announced this week that Toyota is delaying completion of a plant under construction in Blue Springs, Miss., scheduled to open in 2010 for producing Prius hybrid cars. While Toyota has spent $300 on the project so far, the state has invested $200 million and local governments have invested about $35 million.

Gov. Haley Barbour said at a news conference that Toyota plans to work with state and local governments to mitigate extra costs caused by the delay.

A benefit of investing in new plants in the South has been that modern assembly processes have made these auto companies more flexible in their output, and in the application of labor resources. This can keep the number of hires down, or at least have them spending less time cooling their heels as production lines are retooled, so production costs are lower than at older plants up North.

Beyond The Shop Floor

Even the roar from Congressional critics about assembly line largesse seemed to miss the fact that (according to the UAW) labor costs account for about 10 percent of the cost of producing a vehicle; the remaining 90 percent includes research and development, parts, advertising, marketing and management overhead.

One major point about compensation and wage disparities: In 2007 GM's CEO Rick Wagoner earned about $15.7 million (including $1.6 million in salary, plus non-equity incentive compensation, benefits and other expenses), a jump of 64 percent compared to 2006. Ford’s CEO Alan Mulally's total compensation in 2007 was $21.7 million, including a $2 million base salary.

Meanwhile, last year Toyota paid its entire 37-member leadership team approximately $22 million. (Stock options and amenities like housing and country club membership weren't factored into the figure.)

By CBSNews.com producer David Morgan

[grayfrier]

If we should blame anyone its US for not making our own Goverment follow through on public Healthcare the biggest cost to almost any company do away with that and see what happens cost fall way down.
Because part of the price more that 20% of what we pay is for healthcare do the math take 20% off that which you buy think it through a $25,000 would drop to $20,000 that $2,500 less of course i could be wrong because Healthcare cost ave risen in every area.
As for me when i left my job at a local Transportation Company i got my COBRA report i almost had a stroke on the cost to keep my Healthcare
Major medical $1,200 Dential $1,000 Vision $875 Perscriptions 1,300 a total of $4,375 a month A month i got $495.00 UCC thats $1,980.00 a month even giving up my UCC Check I''d still owe $2,395.00 to cover what i had when i lost my job.
Each and every thing we buy as this cost added in and its just cars its in everything we purchase.
But there are some that would still refuse to pay the added tax to fund this even knowing they and each member of their Families were covered.
They would rather put their Loved ones at risk that spend an extra $20 or $30 a month.
In the end it all comes down to Greed our Greed.
Prove me wrong that is if you can do it truthfuly.

[hetup-2009]

WHO CARES

[jsd330]

steveMD2 you named the whole problem engineers, and MBA''s

[hetup-2009]

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[stevemd2]

Japanese cars seem to run forever with minimal repairs, while re our many GM, a couple Ford, and a few chryslers - virtually everyone has been a disaster. And most of these problems are directly related to cost cutting engineering, as well an obvious mentality of "make sure it breaks early so they will buy another car". (My background btw is engineering.)

Well, we did buy other cars - Japanese cars, every last one in my family including our married children.Finally the score is 7 Japanese high mileage cars, 0 Americans. And in selling a pair of 100,000 mile 96-97 mid size cars, one a Pontiac GP, the other a Maxima, we got $1000 for the endless problems machine called pontiac, and sold the Mazima for 3800$ without even cleaning it up.

And instead of buying products, including monstrosities like the Hummer and SUVs that Detroit pushed on America at the direct expense of our nation''s energy security ( The Iraq war was about stealing their oil as much as any other reason) , we buy Japanese cars that get 25-33 mpg in the city and 35-40mpg on the highyway. That is patriotism, plain and simple.

And yes, in almost all areas we are liberals, believe workers should be well paid. But for Detroit mfrs and the UAW, we can only say "a pox on both your houses" for your stupidity, greed, and endangering our whole economy and national security to boot. You have lost me, my adult children, and probably my grandchildrens generation as customers.

[ram19491]

Let''s not lower ourselves to pay our workers less than other underdeveloped countries. The republicans just have to dictate yet another non union mark in a long list of screw-ups of the last 8 years before fading out of power. Those countries have never given a *** about what happens to their workers after they get old and sick. Bush wants the us to follow suit. Just give them a loan like we did chrisler a number of years ago and leave it at that. The big three CEO''s will want to keep their big wage packages so bad that they will start managing instead of just being such a large figure head and thus a burden on their companies.

[prc1177]

I have 40 yrs with GM and my retirement is $2080 per month. You get $50 per month per year of service. I have friends that work for the government and their retirement is 100% of their wages. Mine is less than 50%.

[jsd330]

hdc77494 I would sure like to know know where you get your infomation from. Union workers can be fired, they can get disiplinary time off without pay. The company''s have work rules that have to be followed, just like non union plants do. As for retiree''s making more then when they worked, that is total BS. The UAW retirement is in line with most other retirement plans, ie teamsters,construction laborers, steelworkers, government employees to name a few. And if you retire before you start collecting social security, once you start collecting SS your pension from the company is reduced by that amount. There are no raises or cost of living built into the pension, you pay for survivor benefits and a portion of your health insurance, plus income taxes, federal and state.

[vexation56]

Read carefully: "Toyota''s pay for its leadership team did not include stock options and amenities ... such as housing...". Japanese companies have low exec pay but high perks, including paying personal living expenses. Japan accounting rules do not require benefits or stock options be reported publicly. Ever wonder how Japanese execs live so well on smaller salaries? Simple, the company pays the bill.

US accounting rules require reported exec compensation include benefits and stock options. US rules require stock options be valued assuming they are cashed in sometime in the future, even if it they never are. In 2007, Waggoner did not get cash compensation other than the $1.4 million salary. Most of the rest of the $15 million is for worthless stock options. (Same with Mulally)

Similarly, the reported $70 per hour for Big 3 labor costs is calculated incorrectly. They take the total pay and benefits for all current workers, add payments to retirees, and divide it by hours worked to get $70 per hour. About $20 of that is retiree benefits for existing retirees. That is a huge problem, but not current pay and benefits.

Actually, Big 3 workers'' wages for existing employees are modestly higher than the foreign companies, and wages for new employees are lower. UAW benefits are a few $hr higher.

The anti-American auto industry politians also spout these false numbers. They want the US companies to fail for the benefit of the foreign companies that are in their states.

[prc1177]

I''ll work for the same wages & benefits the nonunion workers at Toyota, Honda, etc get if the Executives & white collar workforce at GM, Ford, Chrysler will do the same without playing games with terminology like calling a bonus a retention fee. In every instance that the UAW has made concessions to help the company, Execs have received million dollar bonuses. Look at AIG, etc the bailout money they received is going for multimillion dollar bonuses. Why don''t you hear about how many execs the Big 3 have as compared to their foreign competitors, why don''t you hear about the perks the execs get, why don''t you hear about the disparity with the white collar employees compared to the foreign competition? Have you noticed the wages between the UAW & foreign competitors are the same, it''s the benefits and the number of retirees that create the disparity.

[fedupman]

The Union Took Concesions They Went From 85% Of There
Wages To Be Laid Off To %80 Wow What A Cut

[fedupman]

These union guys are not skilled workers they
think they are..I worked In A non union shop we made good money and i had to do other jobs ..the Company asked Me to Do...Anyone Can Go Into Gm And in a few days do there job.and a lot of men and women would be glad to do the jobs for $20.00 a hour and no 85%
of there Wages And Pay Part of there Health Care..UNOIN SUCKS,,They Will Be All out of jobs..
Then working for $10.00 A Hour..No One Needs Assembelers They Are A Dime a Dozen..YOU UNION GUYS BETTER WAKE UP..

[closethippy1]

FROM THE ARTICLE ABOVE:

"One major point about compensation and wage disparities: In 2007 GM''s CEO Rick Wagoner earned about $15.7 million (including $1.6 million in salary, plus non-equity incentive compensation, benefits and other expenses), a jump of 64 percent compared to 2006. Ford%u2019s CEO Alan Mulally''s total compensation in 2007 was $21.7 million, including a $2 million base salary.
Meanwhile, last year Toyota paid its entire 37-member leadership team approximately $22 million. (Stock options and amenities like housing and country club membership weren''t factored into the figure.)"

[closethippy1]

Isn''t ironic that the people who make the most noise about American jobs shipped overseas and how illegal aliens help bring down wages in the US are the same people who whine about an American union of workers who are trying their best not to be treated as if they''re working in India or China?
Isn''t pathetic that the same whiners who put down fellow Americans for wanting a better pay defend the same corporations that ship American jobs overseas or who employ illegals just to make an ideological point?
People need to get real and realize that it''s the arrogance and greed of CEO''s that has destroyed the US economy, not workers trying to get better pay.

[hdc77494]

Unions don''t risk a dime in the companies they fleece. Union workers can''t get fired, management can. SHAREHOLDERS put up all the money (from your retirement funds people) and they DEMAND a reasonable return on their investment. When the union takes too high a percentage of profits, and management makes mistakes, the OWNERS sell their shares and invest in some other company. Why union workers flip off the owners is beyond me. No investment, no designs, no plant, NO JOB. Personally I don''t think it''s management fault they didn''t plan for the price of gas to go up 100% and down 77% in one year (due to poor energy planning by congress, and they certainly had nothing to do with the sub-prime mess, again, poor oversight of the monetary system. Hardly ANY business can borrow right now. If GM declares bankruptcy, many of their (and Ford''s) suppliers will go belly up, and the cost of vehicles will rise dramatically. I hate government loans, but there is no other source of funds, and the government is the primary culprit for our current mess.

[hdc77494]

retiree costs are higher at US auto plants, but not just because of more retirees. Payments are so high that retirees typically earn more AFTER they retire than they did during their working years. UAW workers also draw 95% pay for up to four years after being layed off, and work rules are so tough there is very little innovation possible non the shop floor. The UAW doesn''t protect autoworkers as much as they protect UAW membership head count. When times are good, the Union demands huge concessions and ignores company arguements that they need cash for new models and bad times. When times are bad, the Union says it''s all management''s fault and won''t budge either. It''s not line worker''s hourly pay, it''s retirement pay and work rules that have driven the automakers to the brink. Where will the UAW be if the big three go under? The workers at MB, Toyota, Kia, etc, don''t want anything to do with the UAW because the us/them mentality destroys great work environments and keeps unproductive and militant workers from being fired.

[timothyone-2009]

The old folks ruined Social Security, and now the Auto WORKERS have ruined GM! The rich will say anything to get their way. Americans need to study the history of labor to better understand that we are in a class war. The rich want us all working for nothing and are using everything and everyone they can to fool you into thinking the problem is you, or some other average Joe who might have a slightly better deal in life than you have. Will you allow some petty childish jealousy to rule your life, or are you bright and mature enough to see that the rich WANT you to hate your fellow man so you won''t unite and demand fair wages that take into account the amount of wealth you personally CREATE, rather than the tiny amount the rich owner wants to pay you? You decide!

[whitemale08]

You will see Obama following Bush on many things, because you can promise anything, but when you see the facts a lot will change. Obama nor Bush are as smart as the A*holes on this board.


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Posted by d7767w at 07:44 PM : Dec 19, 2008--

Obama is not ''committed'' to this bailout because he knows as well as you and I that the problem is much deeper then that.

Obama will say once inaugurated that the auto-industry has defaulted on its loans from the government and must be re-organized under bankruptcy protection not to make cars but power grid equipment, train parts, etc.

[hetup-2009]

"The True Price Of Auto Labor Costs" IS THE DEATH OF GM

[slim1h2o]

The True Price Of Auto Labor Costs

The true costs of not having a union would be more like doing the "It''s a Wonderful Life" effect.

Just dial back the world and see what it would be like if unions never existed.