Can Stop-Loss Be Stopped?

Military Returns Troops To War After They've Completed Tours, Even After They've Left Active Duty

(CBS) 

[troopsupporter]

Irishmcwife - if you know this family, you also know that the wife takes pride in not having a clue about what is really happening in Iraq. As with many spouses of our troops, she sticks her head in the sand to avoid the fact that her husband's life is on the line for Bush's lies.

[mauracon]

My son volunteerd and fought the Iraqui Freedom War with the 101st Airborne; he remained in Iraq 13 months afterward. He completed four years of service, and almost four years of IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve). His IRR was to end Jan. 29. He just got orders to report to Ft. Benning Jan. 11th and from there to Iraq; total extension time not less than 400 days. He hasn''t heard from the Army since 2005 - no training, no refresher skills, no nothing!!! I feel the army has an obligation to keep these IRRs abreast of current training, at least periodically, especially if they can call them back after 4 years!

[egoff2]

The fact that this "mother" would lie about her son''s military status (thereby panicing many Marine families), is evidence that she''s just one more "wacko" who wants her 15 minutes of fame. A simple google search revealed that : she was unceremoniously removed from more than one anti-war group, so she had to create her own, and that she has a pending lawsuit against George Bush. CBS should have done their homework before giving her the attention she seeks at the expense of her family''s reputation.

[irishmcwife]

Mrs. Berlinrut''s son is NOT a victim of stop loss and her statements were far from accurate. CBS used her to generate emotion for her "story", much of which is incorrect. Her son is a devoted Marine, husband and now a father. I wish him and his family the best and hope that his misdirected mother and the media did not cause them too much grief. They don''t deserve it!

[pawpawmac-2009]

Those of us who served in WW II remember it was for the duration plus 6 month, if needed. I voleenteered for Koera so extended, then Nam came along and I reetired. Never thought much of an all volenteer Army any. Most draft dogers never got what they deserved anyway, My cousin stayed in college 8 years but never graduated---Guess why.

[grandesign]

Now all we have to do is get the insurgents to come out and fight with us on OUR terms.
Posted by Sgt_Fortin at 04:19 PM : Dec 08, 2008

That''s what the British said about the Revolutionay Americans during the war that created our country. But again, that''s history.

[grandesign]

Republicans wouldn''t every choose the most obvious way to eliminate Stop-Loss, bring back the military draft. That way there are many soilders ready to take up the fight where the others have gone home. But by bringing back the draft, all sons (and maybe daughters) would be required to participate. Then you''d have the same games that Bush, Cheney, and Clinton played to keep from fighting for their country in Vietnam.

[grandesign]

Do they not teach history in school any more?
Posted by Sgt_Fortin at 04:25 PM : Dec 08, 2008

Yeah, Lincoln - Civil War (Republican)

[irishmcwife]

Sorry for the multiple posts. It was unintentional. The publish button did not seem to be responding and I inadvertently clicked it several times.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am also a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I were this Marine or his wife I would be pretty angry! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, Mrs Berlinrut would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am also a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I were this Marine or his wife I would be pretty angry! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, Mrs Berlinrut would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am also a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I were this Marine or his wife I would be pretty angry! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, Mrs Berlinrut would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I were this Marine or his wife I would be pretty angry! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, she would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I were this Marine or his wife I would be pretty angry! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, she would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[irishmcwife]

CBS should check their facts. Mrs Berlinrut''s son was not deployed due to stop-loss. Did it not occur to CBS to actually talk to his wife and get the truth? He is a fantastic Marine and serving in Iraq by his own choice. I know this family and am a little disgusted that their pictures were displayed without their permission. There are just so many things about this piece that bother me. CBS really screwed up and if I was the wife of this Marine I would be up in arms! His mother, though possibly well intentioned, was VERY misdirected. One call to the wife would have cleared up a lot of misinformation. Besides, she would not have received a casualty call for her married son. Hello CBS? Did you not pick up on any of these clues that this wasn''t quite right? It was obvious to me.

[sgt_fortin]

A little history lesson for all you Democrats who love to blame Republicans for all things evil... incuding war.
WAR IN OFFICE

WWI W. Wilson (Dem)
WWII F.D.R. (Dem)
Korea Truman (Dem)
Vietnam J.F.K (Dem)
Bosnia Clinton (Dem)
Somolia Clinton (Dem)

Do they not teach history in school any more?

[sgt_fortin]

"BUSH W overused the National Guard in Iraq...and did not prosecute the war in Afghanistan or pursue the enemy into Pakistan. What a zero, expecting us to support his war of attrition and saying it was not like Viet Nam.....
Wars are fought where the enemy is located and not where you want him to be conveniently for battle.
To end a war, you have to engage the enemy where he is located and eliminate enough of them that they sue for peace."
Posted by mjlewis6 at 11:25 AM : Dec 08, 2008

Bush had to use the NG so much because Clinton raped the active duty, cutting strength to bare minimums. If your armed services cross the border into a soveriegn nation without permission, you are commiting an act of war. Thanks for the lesson on tactics and strategy. Now all we have to do is get the insurgents to come out and fight with us on OUR terms.

[sgt_fortin]

First, this MARINE Sgt was an adult when he signed the contract. When he did so, he KNEW or should have known that it obligated him to 8yrs of service. X number of years active and the remainder inactive. During those years of inactive service he would have been subject to recall in the case of national emergency or war. I think Iraq and Afganistan qualify. It just so happens, he had not finished his active time yet and had not had a chance to become a fat nasty civillian before being called back to active duty. I think he lucked out. He didn''t get called back from civillian life. His mother should but out, let her son be a man and live up to his commitments by doing his duty.

[hbevis]

SIG HEIL, I''''M SUPPORT THE TROOPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY CAN''''T GET OUT!!!, BUSH!!!

Posted by walt1944 at 01:57 PM : Dec 08, 2008

WE NEED TO BRING THE DRAFT BACK AND INCLUDE YOU ON THE FIRST LIST...

[hbevis]

SIG HEIL, I''''M SUPPORT THE TROOPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY CAN''''T GET OUT!!!, BUSH!!!

Posted by walt1944 at 01:57 PM : Dec 08, 2008

All that I see from your writing is that you are a cry-baby liberal and you need to shut up and let our men do their job.. I have been in the Armed Services and I signed the same thing that every person did before and after me.. We knew what we were signing when we went in.