Dec. 5, 2008

Biggest Monthly Job Loss In 34 Years

Deepening Recession Results In More Than Half A Million Jobs Cut In Nov.; Unemployment Rate Now 6.7%

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(CBS/AP)  The government says employers axed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, and the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent.

The loss of 533,000 nonfarm payroll jobs shows the crucial employment market deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid clip, and handed Americans some more grim news right before the holidays.

Following the Labor Department's release of November's job figures, President George W. Bush publicly acknowledged for the first time Friday the depths that the U.S. economy had reached by using the "R" word:

"Our economy is in a recession," Mr. Bush said flatly, speaking to reporters on the South Lawn. "This is in large part because of severe problems in our housing, credit and financial markets, which have resulted in significant job losses."

But Mr. Bush said government actions are helping credit to start flowing again.

"A market that was frozen is thawing," he said this morning. "There's still more work to do, but there are some encouraging signs."

While repeatedly listing the serious problems in the economy, the White House has refused to embrace the actual term until Monday, when a panel for the National Bureau of Economic Research said the recession began last December and is ongoing.

Reacting to the jobs report, which showed a jump in the unemployment rate to 6.7 percent (a 15-year high), Mr. Bush expressed deep concern for Americans who have lost jobs, but also said there are some encouraging signs about the credit markets. "There is still more work to do," he said. "My administration is committed to ensuring that our economy succeeds."

At 12 months, the current recession is already the longest since a severe 16-month slump in 1981-82. Many economists say this downturn will ultimately set a new record for the post-World War II period.

During President Bush's eight years in office, the United States has fallen into two recessions. The first one started in March 2001 and ended in November of that year.


More Than Half A Million Jobs Lost

"These numbers are shocking," said economist Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economics Advisors. "Companies are sharply reacting to the economy's problems and slashing costs. They are not trying to ride it out."

Following the report, major indexes on Wall Street were down more than 2 percent and the Dow Jones industrials fell more than 200 points.

The loss of 533,000 payroll jobs was much deeper than the 320,000 job cuts economists were forecasting.

President-elect Barack Obama says today's dismal November jobs report is more proof that forceful action is needed.

At the same time, he warned that "there are no quick or easy fixes" and said "it's likely to get worse before it gets better."

Obama says the tough times provide an opportunity "to transform our economy to improve the lives of ordinary people."

Job losses were widespread, hitting factories, construction companies, financial firms, retailers, leisure and hospitality, and others industries.

The few places where gains were logged included the government, education and health services.

The pace of job losses is also increasing, and with the economy in recession, it couldn’t happen at a more difficult time, said CBS Early Show National Correspondent Jeff Glor. For hundreds of thousands of Americans, this will be a gut-wrenching holiday season.

The economy usually adds about 300,000 jobs in November and December, but this year economists predict it'll lose about twice that much during that period.

The carnage - including the worst financial crisis since the 1930s - is hitting a wide range of companies.

Just in recent days, household names like AT&T Inc., DuPont, JPMorgan Chase & Co., as well as jet engine maker Pratt & Whitney, a subsidiary of United Technologies Corp., and mining company Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. announced layoffs.

Since the start of the recession, the economy has lost 1.9 million jobs, the number of unemployed people increased by 2.7 million and the jobless rate rose by 1.7 percentage points.

The consensus seems to be that the unemployment rate - already approaching seven percent - won't stop until it lands around 8.

John Challenger, CEO of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc., told The Early Show, "The hardest-hit areas are financial services and banks, housing and construction, automotive. But now we are seeing the recession spread out to areas like consumer products, retail, and even technology."

Peter Morici, an economist at the University of Maryland, told Glor, "The unemployment rate will go higher this time then over the last twenty years in previous recessions ... quite simply the problems are more serious."

Workers with jobs saw modest wage gains. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.30 in November, a 0.4 percent increase from the previous month. Over the year, wages have grown 3.7 percent, but paychecks haven't stretched that far because of high prices for energy, food and other items.

Worn-out consumers battered by the job losses, shrinking nest eggs and tanking home values have retrenched, throwing the economy into a tailspin. As the unemployment rate continues to move higher, consumers will burrow further, dragging the economy down even more, a vicious cycle that Washington policymakers are trying to break.

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It's a nailbiter. You worry because you don't know when the next opportunity is going to come along.

Steve Ortiz, unemployed
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is expected to ratchet down a key interest rate - now near a historic low of 1 percent - by as much as a half-percentage point on Dec. 16 in a bid to breathe life into the moribund economy. Bernanke is exploring other economic revival options and wants the government to step up efforts to curb home foreclosures.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, the overseer of a $700 billion financial bailout program, is weighing new initiatives, too, even as his remaining days in office are numbered.

While President-elect Obama has promised to save or create millions of jobs with a massive stimulus plan, that's months (or years) away.

The United States tipped into recession last December, a panel of experts declared earlier this week, confirming what many Americans already thought.

At 12 months and counting, the recession is longer than the 10-month average length of recessions since World War II. The record for the longest recession in the postwar period is 16 months, which was reached in the 1973-75 and 1981-82 downturns. The current recession might end up matching that or setting a record in terms of duration, analysts say.

The 1981-82 recession was the worst in terms of unemployment since the Great Depression. The jobless rate rose as high as 10.8 percent in late 1982, just as the recession ended, before inching down.

Still, the unemployment rate often peaks after a recession has ended. That's because companies are reluctant to ramp up hiring until they feel certain the recovery has staying power.

That's not much consolation for Steve Ortiz, who was in real estate.

"I'm still in a bit of denial; I don't want to think of myself in that category, but it's real, it's there," Ortiz told The Early Show. "I am part of that category."

After working for 21 straight years, he lost a job for the first time four weeks ago.

Now, with Christmas approaching, he has a family of four, including a two-year-old daughter, to support, with no current income.

"It's a nailbiter," Ortiz told Glor. "You worry because you don't know when the next opportunity is going to come along."

Ortiz says he's interviewing, but even if he gets an offer he'll likely take a big pay cut.

Economists we spoke with think the worst of the cuts will be in the next three or four months, but they likely won't end until late next year or early 2010 - not good news.

The only light in this tunnel is that job numbers usually "lag" behind. In other words, companies get back on their feet, then they hire, which means that changes in employment numbers are the last to be seen.

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by txgrouch2007 December 8, 2008 12:21 AM EST
txgrouch2007 ...hey hotshot, name one republican you blame for anything.
Posted by hakori at 10:48 AM : Dec 06, 2008

I see you just CAN''T ANSWER THE QUESTION:

Have you EVER blamed ANY Democrat for ANYTHING? EVEN ONCE???
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by nmsuip December 6, 2008 11:10 PM EST
Hope you enjoyed the "bubbles" (tech then housing). Gotta love that "New Economy." Payback''s a b i t c h, isn''t it?
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by onarollagain December 6, 2008 9:08 PM EST
jsd330 I''m with you 100%!!! I have no sympathy for these people who have lost their homes...most of them shouldn''t have had them in the first place....couldn''t afford them, way to big for them, and then they had to have the biggest SUV to park in their 4 car garage and spouses had to work to help make ends meet and the kids suffered and look at what we have now....we live in a "I want it now" society that doesn''t know that if I start with $5 and spend $7 dollars I''m $2 dollars in the whole.
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by jsd330 December 6, 2008 8:31 PM EST
You can blame the democrats and republicans all you want. But look at yourself, americans want everything for nothing, you don''t want fuel efficient cars until the price of gas goes up, you want cheap big screen tv''s, a huge house that you don''t need and can''t afford and all the other electronic trinkets that come out every year and out comes the plastic to pay for it. Thats exactly why we are losing jobs. Even small company''s can''t compete with the slave labor overseas. Banking jobs, tech support jobs accounting, data processing almost all of these jobs went to India. Just because it is a few dollers cheaper and they have no work rules. We all wanted to go cheaper so we could have all of these goodies. So now we have to pay the piper.
I had a neighbor a few years ago, who sold his house and bought another one with five bedrooms, he only had two children, a three bedroom house wasn''t big enough. I said to him if you lose your job how are you going to pay for that house? His answer was that will never happen I''m a computer programmer they need me. 6 months later no job his company outsourced to India. He filed banruptcy lost his house, his big suv and the last I knew he was working at sears stocking shelves.Couldn''t find a job in his field. Almost everyone has over extende their credit, now we can''t even buy the cheap goods, so companies aren''t selling their products. The first ones to go are the employees.
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by debinok1 December 6, 2008 4:40 PM EST
Our current unemployment numbers are way above just those actually claiming an unemployment check, over the last 3 years appr 75% of those who have received a check are either still unemployed or underemployed. the actual numbers are closer to 30% but thanks to changes in how unemployment is figured we dont get those numbers.
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by saraplumber December 6, 2008 4:31 PM EST
Have you EVER blamed ANY Democrat for ANYTHING? EVEN ONCE???

Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:11 AM : Dec 06, 2008
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Democrats haven''t done anything wrong to be blamed.
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by mikezembill December 6, 2008 4:27 PM EST
With the Republicans in charge we have had free trade to the max not until bush took office we only had trade with three Canada Mexico and Israle now we have trade with 12 other countries not counting COMMUNIST CHINA. Thanks REPUBLICANS.
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by mikezembill December 6, 2008 4:06 PM EST
THERE ARE NO HONEST REPUBLICANS.
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by mikezembill December 6, 2008 4:03 PM EST
There is one thing for sure the REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS MESS END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by mikezembill December 6, 2008 4:00 PM EST
The only thing that FDR did was get people back to work with the WPA. The people paid in to te Social Security system some people make it sound like it''s a goverment give away but some people may just paid the last couple years so they can get a check each month.
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by the74blaster December 6, 2008 3:24 PM EST
Top down socialism is in point of fact, Mussolini styled Fascism. The Corporate State, where the interests of corporations are above that of the people.

Posted by curse914 at 12:19 PM : Dec 06, 2008,

Good point! Lets see these companies argue for free trade and to let the free market regulate their actions, but when they fail we taxpayers get stuck with the bill while the high rollers ride their private jets into the sunset? I cannot resist mentioning that we gave them a big tax cut to boot!

What a deal!
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by the74blaster December 6, 2008 3:04 PM EST
DEMOCRATS - THE PARTY OF NO RESPONSIBILITY.
Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:13 AM : Dec 06, 2008,

What?????

While lets examine the GOPs record.

When Bush took office the public debt was 5.6 trillion. Now 8 years later they need to add another digit to debt because in 8 short years Bush and his GOP allies have more than doubled it!

Well can you tell me what the 6 trillion in expenditures has bought for us taxpayers?

Well...we liberated Iraq with an optional war that got rid of Saddam!

Lets see, we gave big tax cuts to the wealthy who were supposed to stimulate the economy with trickle down economics.

Lets see, we are implementing a socialistic system that funds companies who made bad business decisions rather than letting them go bankrupt.

Considering current events I could argue and sucessfully defend the Democrats are more responsible party! All you need to do is look at the ecomony!

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by amrt5016 December 6, 2008 2:42 PM EST
DEMOCRATS - THE PARTY OF NO RESPONSIBILITY.
Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:13 AM : Dec 06, 2008

Responsibility for what? Like the current financial meltdown? 9/11, Iraq and Katrina? The record-breaking national debt and deficits? The assaults on the Constitution? The absence of universal health care in the only industrialized country? The loss of standing of the U.S. around the world?
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by txgrouch2007 December 6, 2008 1:54 PM EST
That shows how politically intractable debt is: easy to create, hard to pay down.
Posted by ubrew12 at 10:37 AM : Dec 06, 2008

You mean like the great entitlement system that grew out of FDR''s Social Security system - easy to give, hard to take back???

Yah, I know what you mean. Hard to take BACK candy from children. You never should have given it to them in the first place.

But some people INSIST on giving candy to your children, then YOU have to take it back - over the screams and tears. Screams and tears caused by the one who GAVE the candy in the first place.
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by ubrew12 December 6, 2008 1:37 PM EST
txgrouch2007 said: "Clinton had 8 years to fix whatever Reagan and Nixon did."

That shows how politically intractable debt is: easy to create, hard to pay down.

It was Carter who had to fix Nixon''s mistakes. It threw the economy into shambles and cost him reelection.

Republicans have been playing these ''master of disaster'' games for over 30 years: throwing the country into a tailspin and then blaming Democrats for ''not moving faster'' to fix their mistakes. I think you''re just upset that people have figured out the Republican''s anarchic tendencies, and have thrown them into the wilderness until they learn a new schtick. We can''t afford their ''bad boy'' routine anymore.
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by txgrouch2007 December 6, 2008 1:13 PM EST
And BTW we don''''t need another Reagan. The first Alzheimer''''s patient the RINOs put up for office. Reagan renounced being a real Republican to become a goofy RINO when he first screeched "Deficits Don''''t Matter!"
Posted by FloydZeppd at 09:53 AM : Dec 06, 2008

The question NO DEMOCRAT WILL ANSWER:

Have you EVER blamed ANY Democrat for ANYTHING? EVEN ONCE???

I''ve posted that question dozens of times. I''ve gotten about half a dozen replies. NONE of them can blame a Democrat. For ANYTHING. Except one who said he didn''t totally agree with some of Clinton''s policies, without being specific.

DEMOCRATS - THE PARTY OF NO RESPONSIBILITY.

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by txgrouch2007 December 6, 2008 1:11 PM EST
Boy, sure glad the GOP had NOTHING to do with this!
Posted by trillion1 at 09:53 AM : Dec 06, 2008

Have you EVER blamed ANY Democrat for ANYTHING? EVEN ONCE???
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by txgrouch2007 December 6, 2008 1:09 PM EST
Given our economic crisis a little executive belt tightening is what needs to be done, not layoffs that will only compound the crisis.
Posted by liceu93 at 09:45 AM : Dec 06, 2008

So what would do more to save jobs - bailouts or TARIFFS???


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by trillion1 December 6, 2008 12:53 PM EST
Boy, sure glad the GOP had NOTHING to do with this!
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by liceu93 December 6, 2008 12:45 PM EST
These layoffs will only deepen and lengthen this Recession. Some companies, such as GM, are in such bad financial shape that they have no viable alternative but to lay off 1,800 workers. But it is inexcusable for companies that are in relatively good financial shape, such as AT&T, to announce the layoffs of over 10,000 employees when we%u2019re in the depths of a recession. It is not only unconscionable and inexcusable, it is very shortsighted, and frankly, unpatriotic for them to do so.

Our economic and financial crisis is being made worse by the lack of true corporate and political leadership in the U.S. today %u2013 a clueless lame duck President; the shortsighted execs at the Big Three automakers; and then the greedy execs, like AT&T%u2019s Randall Stephenson, who are needlessly laying off loyal employees just to make the balance sheet look better.

Given the grave economic crisis our country is facing, as an AT&T stockholder, I%u2019d rather forgo my dividend checks for a couple of quarters, than see loyal employees thrown out on the street in the depths of a recession. Given our economic crisis a little executive belt tightening is what needs to be done, not layoffs that will only compound the crisis.
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