Dec. 7, 2008

The Multitalented Mr. Schnabel

Morley Safer Profiles Julian Schnabel, A Titan Of The Film And Art World

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(CBS)  Schnabel clearly feels the negative criticism is aimed at the artist, not the art, but since he seems to regard himself as his greatest work of art, the confusion can be understandable.

He's been married twice, the father of five children. Down through the years he's painted portraits of them all.

"At the beginning I definitely didn’t think about him as a husband, no," says Spanish actress Olatz Lopez Garmendia, Schnabel's wife and the subject of a number of adoring paintings.

Asked what she first of Schnabel when she first met him, she tells Safer, "Charming. And scary."

Asked how he was scary, she says, "Maybe because he’s a very intense person."

She has appeared in two of Schnabel’s films. It was five years from the time they met to the time they married. "We kept bumping into each other. He was like courtshipping," she says.

And she says he was persistent.

He began a series of huge paintings bearing her name, and sent one to her house in Paris. "They needed to bring it up through the outside of the building. And I guess I took it as a love letter," she remembers.

But love is a tricky thing. Since that interview, the Schnabels’ marriage seems to be on the rocks. And while the fickle New York art world may not have fallen out of love with Julian Schnabel, it has embraced newer, younger shooting stars. But he does remain a darling overseas.

He admits he has a good sized ego. "I guess I made the paintings. I guess I made the movies," Schnabel says. "I never made a compromise. For a guy to be able to say that, does that mean he’s got a big ego?"

"But there’s nothing wrong with having a big ego…," Safer remarks.

"No, but I think it’s, its, you know, would you ask Marlon Brando if he had a big ego?" Schnabel asks.

"Probably," Safer replies.

"I mean, you know, do you have a big ego?" Schnabel asks.

"No, not me," Safer says.

Schnabel's response? "Okay, I’m sure you do."



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by dalokster70 February 18, 2009 7:21 PM EST
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by bernie.mcginn February 18, 2009 4:35 PM EST
interesting guy!
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by benfrenchnyc February 18, 2009 4:07 PM EST
Test.
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by benfrenchnyc February 18, 2009 3:51 PM EST
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by bernie.mcginn February 18, 2009 3:50 PM EST
definitely an interesting guy!
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by grandma_king December 10, 2008 11:33 PM EST
Julian Schnabel should have slugged you, you arrogant snob. I am so sick of you reporters trying to drum up controversy with mentally sick behavior (triangulation). You were his guest. You were very rude and arrogant, and so narrow-minded that you only know your own agenda. I sure hope people can see your rudeness and quit watching as I have.
By the way, I love Andy Rooney, infact, that''s the only part of 60 minutes I like, but that''s not enough to keep me watching.
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by banartist December 10, 2008 2:14 PM EST
As an Artist who struggles daily with the grind of trying to be, I feel saddened by the lack of response by Mr. Safer and previous writers to address what I feel are his key comments. "I probably paint like a Jazz musician". "I"m Sort of leaning towards a divine light". Morley would have made this interview infinately more interesting and educational by asking him to expand on this, rather than pissing him off with worthless questions. If I myself could answer those questions verbally, I''d probably be a writer... or director. Crossing over to another discipline as seamlessly as he does is indicative of great talent. To quote George Santayana, "Expression depends on the union of two terms. One is furnished by the imagination, and a mind cannot furnish what it does not possess. Therefore, the expression of everything increases with the intelligence of the viewer".
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by apadilla3 December 10, 2008 12:34 AM EST
One last thing and I''ll zip it. He is hiding his lack of talent behind his belligerence. He attacks those who criticize him to divert their attention to the fact that he has no ability.
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by apadilla3 December 10, 2008 12:31 AM EST
Yeah, um, I don''t get it. Maybe I''m turned off by the fact that he replicated a painting someone else did that wasn''t good to begin with (that''s how it ended up in a thrift store), and this schmuck says "his" painting is worth a million. He sounded like an overgrown five year old crying because someone didn''t like him. Waa, waa, waa. Then he has the nerve to call his nemesis critic lazy. I find his artwork to be lazy and disrespectful to the world! Yeah, his take on directing, ". . . throw everyone in a hole and see if they can climb out." They climb out because they''re talented actors, no thanks to him.
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by efactor2 December 8, 2008 4:50 PM EST
His movies are quite good, and his art is all in how you interpret it and that interpretation is a product of your backround. I personally know an artist who is struggling to pay the bills, but believes deeply in the value her artwork hasin this society and knows someday she will achieve success on her own terms and without selling her soul. Check out her website at maricelaalvarez.com You may not necessarily understand her work upon first view, but it will speak to you if you give it time.
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by aka10003 December 8, 2008 3:14 PM EST
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" is one of the most sensitive, original and artistically rewarding films I have ever seen; think what I will of his individual art pieces, they come from an artist with a true vision.

Morley Safer''s mention of Hughes'' negative criticism was a journalistic low-point considering that Schnabel has such an impressive track record by now.

How would Mr. Safer react if when himself interviewed, he is being asked to answer to scathing criticism by a reviewer who understands no English? That would be laughable. And what if it is not happening in the relatively straight-forward world of journalism, but in a field where visionaries often have to endure years of abuse by those who are practically blind to their work? Mr. Schnabel has a cause to be upset.

Unless Mr. Safer was specifically assigned to this article as a rep of the artistically-defensive population, 60 Minutes should really do better job matching in the future.
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by lonecampwoma December 8, 2008 2:26 PM EST
I met Julian in the late 70''s. I was a restaurant owner in a city in TX. I instantly recognized and was drawn to his Genius. He told me he was a cook and if I ever needed one to call him. I said,"Our chef just ran off to Austin and I need a cook tonight" Julian said O.K. Neither of us questioned that it would work beautifully and he cooked that night to raves from customers. Yes, I am "OLD"--64, but it''s too bad that there is no room for genius in this world anymore. I''m glad I was around to experience it. Julian is not just a genius but a true hero--he saved me! and his existence makes life richer on this planet for all of us. None of his success has surprised me. I expected it. I especially love the plate paintings (as a restaurant owner who heard many plates hit the floor over the years) and the movies are a gift to all of us.
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by tuflgal December 8, 2008 1:35 PM EST
I guess the saying ''Beauty is in the eye of the beholder''. For myself, I am stating my own opinion. I beheld nothing. I saw nothing amazing in his artwork. I am not familiar with his directing or writing ability.

How does he as an artist get to that level of fame?

If you want to see REAL art... photo realistic..done by hand..not airbrushed..or dumped/splashed on a wall or canvas.. take a look at www.melendezmurals.com

Here is a true and unknown artist with real talent, who struggles to get his work seen and known.

Pass the word on gang...let''s give REAL talent worthy of the title... ''Artist''.

Thanks!

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by Nitraaaam July 24, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
Man, your paintings have no soul and that's probably why you're unknown.
by godseyesore-2009 December 8, 2008 11:53 AM EST
I have never been drawn to Schnabel''s paintings but his film work is another story. Diving Bell & Butterfly is now on my list of favorite films. Very impressive work.
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by gianna2009-2009 December 8, 2008 10:44 AM EST
Morely Safer''s interview was off his usual performance. He didn''t seem at ease with Mr. Schnabel. People often criticize artists and art they don''t understand. The ego questions detracted from the interview. And for those who haven''t heard of Jullian Schanbel, well, he hasn''t heard of you either.
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by chuck1522 December 8, 2008 4:35 AM EST
Your guest Schnabal reminds me of a paper weight I had in 1956. He throws paint on the wall and calls it art. I suspect Mr. Safer knows better. You can hire a chimp to do that "art" at 4 bananas an hour. (that is union scale.) Your program is too good to let Schnabal push this *** on you!
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by davidcc472 December 8, 2008 4:13 AM EST
Mr. Safer,

Your interview with Julian was very fair, but going into the Robert Hughes hook was a little tacky. It made for great television but I bet you knew it would send him over the edge. I enjoyed this segment but it didn''t do Mr. Schnabel any good coming off as such an A*#&hole. The ending about ego was terrific. You go Morley!
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by December 8, 2008 2:03 AM EST
This is what you get when a spoiled baby brat grows tall.
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by lyle943 December 8, 2008 1:04 AM EST
Mr. Schnabel reminded me of many years ago when an "artist" presented some sort of *** to the public, and when one had the temerity to doubt his/her talent, we were told "You just don''t GET it!"
Mr. Schnabel has no talent, but apparently there are enough people who don''t want to be told that they just don''t get it, so they buy his garbage and hang it proudly, telling their guests, "You just don''t GET it! It cost me a fortune!". Schnabel = Schlock
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by eudaly December 8, 2008 12:35 AM EST
Mr. Schnabel was quite right to be appalled by Mr. Safer''s presenting Robert Hughes''s opinions of Schnabel''s art for comment. Hughes is to art criticism what Bill O''Reilly is to journalism.
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