GM's Failed Saturn Brand Goes On The Block
CBS Evening News: Abundance Of Brands And Models Has Been One Of The Struggling Carmaker's Many Problems
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Chuck Hallenby works on the assembly line at the General Motors Powertrain Warren transmission plant in Warren, Mich., in this June 1, 2006 file photo. The plant helps manufacture GM's once-popular Saturn line, but Saturn sales have foundered and GM is seeking to rid itself of the brand while seeking tens of billions of dollars in federal bailout money. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)
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General Motors Executive Vice President Tom Stephens poses with a Saturn Vue Green Line Plug-in Hybrid at the North American International Auto Show, Jan. 14, 2008 in Detroit. Analysts say GM has suffered as a result of having too many brands and models compared to its more efficient foreign competitors. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)
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A Saturn Vue plug-in hybrid vehicle, is shown with at a July, 2008 conference on plug-in hybrid vehicles. Saturn, which General Motors tried to position as a forward-thinking brand, is very likely to be sold off or eliminated. (AP Photo)
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"They have to sell Saturn. They also probably have to do something with Pontiac," says Kevin Tynan, senior auto analyst at Argus Research.
Tynan says the problem is simple. General Motors has eight brands and 57 models. Toyota sells nearly as many cars and trucks with just three brands and 32 models.
"The cost of trying to put that many models in the marketplace - to design, build 'em and market them - is just too expensive" for GM, says retail analyst Mark Kiness.
The Saturn Aura is built around the same drive train as GM's Chevy Malibu and its Pontiac G6 and they share many of the same parts. But those cars compete against the Toyota Camry, which last month outsold all three GM versions combined, something Kiness says underscores the poor management decisions that have put GM where it is today.
But carmakers can't simply shut down a brand.
"It seems very easy, but it is not a matter of flicking a switch," says Rebecca Lindland of research firm Global Insight.
As GM discovered when they shuttered Oldsmobile four years ago, dealerships have to be bought out - and that can get very expensive.
"It was billions and billions of dollars to shut down Oldsmobile. And that was a pretty small brand," Lindland says.
It was billions and billions of dollars to shut down Oldsmobile. And that was a pretty small brand.
Rebecca Lindland, Global Insight"It's certainly a buyer's market. But there's no credit to be had. [And] they're damaged brands to begin with," Tynan says.
And automakers will also pay in loyalty.
"Will these people go out and buy another GM brand?" asks Tom Waurishug, general manager of a Saturn dealership in White Plains, N.Y. "I don't think so."
But for some of Detroit's once revered brands, it's looking more and more like the end of the road.
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- About Unions making 14 to 35 dollars an hours. Who are these employees. Speaking with friends parents in unions, the pay is 50 to 75 dollars and hour. Then you have the ability to draw full or partial pay for up to two years for sitting on your ***. Go to hell unions. At one time there was a need for unions, what is needed is accountability, by managment and by workers. You work, you get paid, you manage well you get paid. No performance you lose your pay and no bonus or buyout!!
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- This is to Katy Couric.
Once our family looked upon your news program as one we desired to see. However, your blatant bias during the election and pushing of Democratic agendas turns us off. We will not watch your program. - Reply to this comment
- my granddad drove fords and then chsylers as best i can rember. my dad always drove chevys. but now has volvos and infinti in his garage for the past 10 years
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- If this is a "loan" to the big three, then where is the details of repayment and what is the interest rate? Please do not give me that bull about the UAW not being one large cause for automotive''s problems. Also, the guy at Chrysler ran Home Depot into the ground and now he has another one just about there. Are we supposed to believe him?
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- Just to be clear as well, the "Government Loan" is your money and mine. The government does not earn or create wealth. It comes from us. As far as the media, I agree. Let us feel like Americans and not the sheep we have become. Skip the media and investigate for yourself. Go online and check out these companies. They are publicly traded and therefore financial records and practices are made public. Be the smart industrius American that you are and do the right thing. Find out the truth instead of being spoonfed garbage.
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- Just to clear one thing up. The BAILOUT is not a GIFT it is a LOAN which will be paid back to the government.
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- As a Sturn employee, I agree that the marketing efforts for our brand have been lackluster at best over the years. Turning Saturn into Global Platform cars was a huge mistake and removed the uniqueness of the brand in one fell swoop. Big Brother GM has always had their favorites, and we were never it. I don''t agree with a government "bailout" and even bridge loans represent empty dollars. The federal reserve is in deficit state and there is no "money". When my checking account reaches zero, I don''t write checks. My opinion: Private industry, banks included, need to take their lumps like any other failed business and figure it out. Buick- Your Tax Dollars at Work???
When my tenure runs dry here, my work ethic and desire to succeed will force me to figure it out. I''d shovel dung if it meant staying off of the government dole and supporting myself. - Reply to this comment
- GM spends only 10% of it''''s budget on labor.
Unfortunately, due to misconceptions, the Unions take a lot of heat for earning between $14 and $35, which is barely middle class.
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Posted by vadem1 at 11:06 AM : Dec 05, 2008
You sure are sucking up to the UAW. They don''t know how to work, they are over paid and what they do is worthless. You need to stop beliving all the LIES they tell. They make a lot of money, way over middle class. Maybe the new people don''t, but the big 3 are not adding people they are letting the no goods go. - Reply to this comment
- Who in their right mind, is going to buy a Saturn, Not we, the American people.
Same goes for Ford''s Escape and Dodge Avenger, all
NO-SELLERS!!!
Diversification is not always the answer to everything.
About the only thing the Big 3 sell are trucks, and all three compete heavily in this market by designing and redesigning the same basic truck. Right now all eyes are on the Chevy Silverado, after the Ford F150 last year''s model and before that Dodge Ram, and the puppets who buy into this clever marketing ploy. How sick is that. - Reply to this comment
- GM spends only 10% of it''s budget on labor.
Unfortunately, due to misconceptions, the Unions take a lot of heat for earning between $14 and $35, which is barely middle class. - Reply to this comment
- They should have done this years ago. Trying to sell based on marketing instead of engineering go them into this. Make 1 good car instead of 10 mediocre ones and I''ll buy it. The answer to making the shutting down of a brand easier is bankruptcy.
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- The car manufacturers all loved the "free market" when they were on top. But if you don''t manufacture a product that people will buy - you lose. That''s capitalism. How many other brands have disappeared due to the market - some great models. Unless GM, and Ford, and Chrysler, begin to make cars the market wants - maybe they should disappear too. The car companies can''t have it both ways - protection when they fail, no regulation when they are succeeding. If other brands can make fuel efficient cars, Detroit could also have done so. Some of the problem is the union contracts but mostly it rests on the mismangement of the car companies.
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- Bungling governments and Socialistic unions smother whatever industry they attach themselves to like a strangling, parasitic vine.
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- Oh yeah? Well as a lifelong loyal Chevy owner I can tell you that Chevrolets are far superior to any Pontiac, Buick, GMC, or Saturn out there, hands down!!!
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- Chrztphr, I agree with you comments. No credible information supplied but perception will be the story is true. This does no good for the situation that the big 3 are dealing with and as a Saturn dealership employee it certainly seems unfair.
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- If the execcutives would reduce their pay and compensation package comparable to their employees there would not be half the problem and they might can stay alive. the American people are sick of seeing these rediculous pay packages for the "brass" and then wanting us to subsidize them for their "**** poor" business decisions. Their ultimate goal --- drain the kitty abd run, to hell with anybody else!!!!!
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- Does this make the evening news???? How can you run a story based on words from a guy from a from Argus Research that more than a few people will watch, read and hear and even believe for absolutely no other reason than CBS had it on TV so it must be right? Who in the hell cares about Argus Research?... What good is any of this. I would venture to say that this country would have no economic issue or social negativity if the press would stop creating this downward spiral of negative B.S., selling doom and shock and instead maybe trying to help spin things around with morality and usable facts. CBS and the media have become a cancer for this country and could absolutely create the end of the good stuff.. At least for a while.. ***. WAKE UP AMERICA..... Chrztphrathotmail
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- This is the typical media epidemic that is ruining our country and our economy. I am so angry after reading this story I could spit. GM facts=0, any facts other than some guys words=0. Did this actually make the evening news? Are there no stories with useful facts anymore? Is this an ignorant reporter just trying to get a story whether it be true or not to get a piece of time on the air? Talk about a lack of passion.. The fact, in the end, is that this and so many news stories and modern American Media creates a perception that the public bites of on and believes which in turn ends in a very possible reality. I would love the opportunity to open the eyes of the viewers to this disease which is based on some bozo who has nothing to do with GM or any facts other than the fact that this is what some guy said.
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- This was advertised to be the ''Japanese car killer'' when it first came out.
A lot of goofy commercials and plastic body panels to stop dents from shopping carts but the car never caught on mainstreem.
I thought it was a good car but these are the types of errors made under ''globalization'' because they would have never had to compete directly with Japan if they had raised the tarrifs on imports like the Japanese did to our auto-industry.
Now we are paying the price for being ''suckers'' for ''globalization''. - Reply to this comment
- This brand started out with some decent customer service effort. We had a ''92 SL2 and got 122,000 miles out of it before we sold it for a minivan. But, it always seemed that the style was a bit plain Jane until that 2-seater came out recently.
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