Leftover Explosives Found In Mumbai Hub

Bombs Found In Train Station; Rice Presses Pakistan To Cooperate With Probe Of Deadly Attack

(CBS/AP)  Police on Wednesday discovered leftover explosives hidden in a bag in Mumbai's main train station - a stunning new example of botched security after the deadly rampage that left the government open to accusations it missed warnings and bungled its response.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Islamabad has a "special responsibility" to cooperate with the investigation into the attacks, which Indian and U.S. officials have blamed on militant groups based in Pakistan.

During a joint press conference with Rice, Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee said, "there is no doubt the terrorist attacks in Mumbai were perpetrated by individuals who came from Pakistan and whose controllers are in Pakistan."

India's defense minister summoned the army, navy and air force chiefs to warn them to be prepared for terror attacks from the air and the sea in the wake of growing criticism about slack security.

The bomb squad defused the two 8-pound bombs, said Assistant Commissioner of Police Bapu Domre, but it was not immediately clear why the bombs hadn't been found earlier.

The suspected militants sprayed Chhatrapati Shivaji train station with gunfire last Wednesday night, but authorities reopened it and declared it safe Thursday morning. The crowds of commuters quickly returned the station, one of the country's busiest, and it has been serving millions of passengers in the days since.

Rice, in New Delhi as part of a U.S. effort to ease tensions in the region following the attacks, said the United States expects all "responsible governments" to help with the investigation and "Pakistan has a special responsibility to do so and to do so transparently, urgently and fully."

"The responsibility of the Pakistani government should be one of cooperation and of action," she said.

Mukherjee vowed to bring the suspected Muslim militants to justice but said "what action will be taken by (the Indian) government will depend on the response that we have from the Pakistan authorities."

Defense Minister A.K. Antony told his military chiefs that they needed to improve intelligence coordination so that security forces can act on all credible threats, according to a ministry statement.

The statement said Antony discussed beefing up maritime security and "reviewed in detail the preparedness against any possible terror threats from air."

Defense Ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said the moves were a precaution and not based on concrete intelligence.

"We saw how they came through the sea routes," Kar said. "We are not ruling out any threats. It's a preventive measure."

Authorities believe the gunmen responsible for last week's attacks reached Mumbai by boat after launching from Karachi, Pakistan.

Indian and U.S. officials have blamed Pakistani-based groups for the attacks and have pressured Islamabad to cooperate in the investigation.

"I have said that Pakistan needs to act with resolve and urgency, and cooperate fully and transparently," Rice said during a press conference in New Delhi. "I know too this is a time when cooperation of all parties who have any information is really required."

Rice said it was too early to say who was responsible for the attack, but: "Whether there is a direct al Qaeda hand or not, this is clearly the kind of terror in which al Qaeda participates."

So far investigators have not found the fingerprints of bin Laden in Mumbai, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr. But, there is evidence al Qaeda and Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistani group believed to be behind the attack, are growing closer - sharing communication links, training camps and the same deadly mission.

"Their objective is essentially a global jihad," Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace told Orr.

India has called on Pakistan to turn over 20 people who are "fugitives of Indian law" and wanted for questioning, but President Asif Ali Zardari said the suspects would be tried in Pakistan if there is evidence of wrongdoing.

"At the moment, these are just names of individuals - no proof and no investigation," he said Tuesday in an interview with CNN's Larry King. "If we had the proof, we would try them in our courts and we would try them in our land and we would sentence them."

A week after the attacks, more details of intelligence failures began to emerge, drawing further criticism to authorities already blamed for moving slowly and ineptly during the 60-hour siege carried out by 10 gunmen.

Navy chief Sureesh Mehta earlier called India's failure to act on multiple warnings "a systemic failure."

A senior U.S. intelligence official confirmed to CBS News that India was given multiple warnings, including from the U.S., that Lashkar-e-Taiba was conducting reconnaissance on hotels in Mumbai in the months before the siege.

India's foreign intelligence agency also had warnings as recently as September that Pakistan-based terrorists were plotting attacks on Mumbai, according to a government intelligence official familiar with the matter.

The information, intercepted from telephone conversations apparently coming out of Pakistan, indicated that hotels might be targeted but did not specify which ones, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk publicly about the details.

Authorities said Tuesday that ex-Pakistani army officers trained the gunmen behind the attacks - some for up to 18 months.

India has stepped up the pressure on its neighbor after interrogating Ajmal Qasab, the only surviving attacker, who told police that he and the other nine gunmen had trained for months in camps in Pakistan operated by Lashkar-e-Taiba.

CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reports that there is more detail emerging of the preparation and planning that went into the attack. Qasab has said they trained for months at a number of camps located in different regions of Pakistan. A senior Indian police official said "they underwent training in several phases, which included training in handling weapons, bomb making, survival strategies, survival in a marine environment and even dietary habits."

Little was left to chance. Not only did the terrorists arrive with bags of almonds to help sustain them through the hours of the siege, police say they used amphetamines to stay awake, reports MacVicar. One British newspaper, The Telegraph, goes further, and claims traces of cocaine, and even LSD were found in post-mortem examinations of the gunmen's bodies.

The training was "meticulous and rigorous," said a security official who spoke on the customary condition of anonymity.

The official said the gunmen sailed from Karachi in a Lashkar vessel that brought them to the waters near an Indian vessel they hijacked, the MV Kuber.

They killed three crew members and dumped their bodies in high seas, but kept the captain alive so that he could guide them into Mumbai.

The captain was killed some three nautical miles off Mumbai's coast, the official said.

Police were questioning the owner of the MV Kuber, from which investigators recovered a global positioning system that belonged to the attackers.

American officials said there is reason to suspect that the terror attacks were the work of a group at least partly based in Pakistan, although they've stopped short of mentioning Lashkar by name.

U.S. National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell, seen at left, said Tuesday the same group that carried out last week's attack is believed to be behind the Mumbai train bombings that killed more than 200 people two years ago.

While he didn't identify the group, the Indian government has attributed the 2006 attack to Lashkar and the Students Islamic Movement of India.

Last week's attacks against hotels, a restaurant and other sites across this sprawling city killed 171 people, including 26 foreigners, officials said Wednesday. The death toll was revised down from 172 after authorities realized they had counted a victim twice.

"More bodies being found is ruled out," Maharashtra state government spokesman Bhushan Gagrani said.

[whitemale08]

Condileeza Con has to use her power as head of the State Dept. to place the U.K. as a ''state sponsor of terrorism''.

The U.K. has gone too far in trying to destabilize the population by staging terror attacks between 2 nuclear powers in order to resurrect their dead Global Financial System.

They would rather try to reduce the earth''s population to levels of 1913 when the private Federal Reserve System was created here in the United States and 1914 reset the world''s population for the next ''bubble'' economy for looting and destructing for global profits.

Condileeza Con must do her duty and place our long-time enemy on the ''State-Sponsor-terror'' watch list before she leaves India.

[mrmeatspin]

Leftover Turkey at My House.
You know that there are starving terrorists in the world !

Posted by MatrixRX2003 at 06:02 PM : Dec 03, 2008



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i guess you and osama has a lot of mouths to feed

[mrmeatspin]

I wonder how much satire is needed to cover all this terrorist attack before the liberals can no longer deny that terrorist kills people..

all this stench..even john colbert cant cover this

[markwains]

Thanks I am glad you liked it. LOL

Posted by MatrixRX2003 at 06:24 PM : Dec 03, 2008

I think we both are of the same thought, unless I read you wrong.

[matrixrx2003]

markwains

Thanks I am glad you liked it. LOL

[markwains]

Leftover Explosives In Mumbai

Leftover Turkey at My House.
You know that there are starving terrorists in the world !

Posted by MatrixRX2003 at 06:02 PM : Dec 03, 2008

Realy! I hope they all starve to death. My heart goes out to all those starving terrorists. That comment is such a joke.

[matrixrx2003]

Leftover Explosives In Mumbai

Leftover Turkey at My House.

You know that there are starving terrorists in the world !

[markwains]

The "bible" says anyone who breaks into your home that "his life is paid for", I think this applies to all the terrorists in the world also.

[txgrouch2007]

You murderers think that MURDERING a human being of other country IS THE ONLY WAY OF living a life and solving problems.
Posted by MaharajaG at 04:22 PM : Dec 03, 2008

Why don''t you say that about the ones who carried out the 9/11 attack.

Or do you want to chastize only white people, or only USA people, or ...?

[markwains]

THEY WORSHIP YOUR DAUGHTER''''S P. USSY

Posted by MaharajaG at 02:20 PM : Dec 03, 2008

For MaharajaG: This comment you made says exactly who and what you are

[notblue]

maharajaG, when fighting an enemy like radical Islam, who would kill as many innocent civilian noncombatants as possible in a single attack, using any and all means possible, without remorse, recognition, or use of any civilized rules of engagement, the efforts of diplomacy will only be used as a tool by this enemy to facilitate regrouping or re-arming, then the effort is not only inneffectual but results in a negative outcome. Some savage barbarians like, Muslim extremists, will only be defeated by a purposeful agenda of destruction. It''s unfortunate but that is the reality when attempting to defeat this evil.

[mrmeatspin]

THERE ARE MANY MANY THOUSAND WAYS TO SERVE HUMAN KIND.


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and how do YOU serve human kind?

[mrmeatspin]

these terrorists knows that obama is no bush..

terrorism will be very lucrative..BUY SOME STOCKS before the liberals snatch them all


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Posted by MrMeatSpin at 03:49 PM : Dec 03, 2008
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[txgrouch2007]

I fought in my own way to stop this war.
Posted by vsg4 at 03:22 PM : Dec 03, 2008

Did you risk death? Was an enemy firing live ammunition at you? Were other combatants dying next to you? Did you see men die in an explosion when nobody thougt they were in a combat zone?

Did you realize that your survival is ultimately a matter of blind luck, because no matter how skillful you are you can''t avoid sudden death? Did you see men die who were better skilled than you were? Did you face the realization that death came to them through no fault of their own? And that the same can come to you, and you are powerless to stop it?

You can believe in God or not, but either way you aren''t the one deciding if you make it home alive.

If you haven''t been there, you haven''t been in a war.

[vsg4]

". If you have not experienced the hatred of war then be silent, if you have not seen the extent to which mankind can sink to, then be silent. If you have not fought for what you believe in, then be silent. There is no glory in war. Only bloodshed and grief.

Posted by markwains at 03:08 PM : Dec 03, 2008"

One need be silent just because this Prez. started an un just, illegal war. I fought in my own way to stop this war. People can freely express their ideas. If you were there then you judge for your self what this war had brought us. I do not see anything other than defense suppliers, big oil making money out of this war. Absolutely nothing else. I really pray god that Tibetans find oil reserves in their country. Let us see if we fight for their freedom/democracy and stop illegal occupation it by China.

[notblue]

Impeach_w, how did that wait and see what happens thing work prior to 911? you libs need to wake up to the reality of the threat, stop blaming America and continue the more proactive approach the last administration started. Anything else is waiting for the next attack to react, history has shown that policy plays right inot the hands of the enemy. you libs will be very surprised when Obam "stays the course" thank goodness his pre-election pandering geared towards the leftwing pascifists in order to win the election had no basis in REALITY, he will continue this fight against Islamic extremism and America will be safer for it.

[markwains]

Which god are you referring to? The one this Prez. Bush believes and also believes in pro life & send Army to Iraq that causes 4100+ dead soldiers, 5000 permanently crippled soldiers & 32000 injured soldiers and 700,000 dead Iraqis. So that is kind of pro life & god you are referring to ?

Posted by vsg4 at 02:23 PM : Dec 03, 2008

For your information we lost 55.000 soldiers in the Vietnam war. Their is no glory in war as I have been there. And their were over a million North Vietnam causulties on the other side. But if you are not willing to fight for what you believe in then you do not have a right to say anything. I do not say it was right, but I put my life on the line to protect what I believed in. Have you? If not, then be silient. You must fight for what you believe is right. I fought for this country. 55,000 other soldiers did the same, and if you do not respect their sacrifice then be silent. If you have not experienced the hatred of war then be silent, if you have not seen the extent to which mankind can sink to, then be silent. If you have not fought for what you believe in, then be silent. There is no glory in war. Only bloodshed and grief.

[impeach___w]

What exactly is the rule on ''Leftover Explosives''? Do they have to send them back to address on the box, or do you get 72 hours to claim them at the lost-and-found?
Posted by DaVicar1

you have to turn them in, In orlando, we have whole neighborhoods and elementry schools built on WWII bombing ranges where some chemicals were dropped too. All you need is a metal detector and a shovel and your 10 min fron Diz-nee

[impeach___w]

They are Muslim countries and are taught anyone who is not a Muslim is an infidel and that infidels should be killed. Now, what do you think is going to happen or do we just wait and let it all happen?
Posted by markwains

Heck no, we can''t afford to sit and wait!
We need to figure out a way to accelerate it!

[txgrouch2007]

China and Pakistan are big time in bed with each other. China is courting Pakistan in an effort to undermine the US India alliance as much as possible.
Posted by yongamerica at 02:49 PM : Dec 03, 2008

Swell. The next Vietnam War all over again.

China and its buddy Pakistan will go to war against India. Depending on the president at the time, either the USA will join with India, or we''ll "stay out of it" until it erupts into an unstoppable global conflict and we get dragged into it.

Either way, nukes will fly and we''ll all be wearing lead underwear.

If we got in, critics will blame us for getting in. If we stay out, critics will say we should have gotten involved before the conflict spread so far.