Leftover Explosives Found In Mumbai Hub

Bombs Found In Train Station; Rice Presses Pakistan To Cooperate With Probe Of Deadly Attack

(CBS/AP)  Police on Wednesday discovered leftover explosives hidden in a bag in Mumbai's main train station - a stunning new example of botched security after the deadly rampage that left the government open to accusations it missed warnings and bungled its response.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Islamabad has a "special responsibility" to cooperate with the investigation into the attacks, which Indian and U.S. officials have blamed on militant groups based in Pakistan.

During a joint press conference with Rice, Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee said, "there is no doubt the terrorist attacks in Mumbai were perpetrated by individuals who came from Pakistan and whose controllers are in Pakistan."

India's defense minister summoned the army, navy and air force chiefs to warn them to be prepared for terror attacks from the air and the sea in the wake of growing criticism about slack security.

The bomb squad defused the two 8-pound bombs, said Assistant Commissioner of Police Bapu Domre, but it was not immediately clear why the bombs hadn't been found earlier.

The suspected militants sprayed Chhatrapati Shivaji train station with gunfire last Wednesday night, but authorities reopened it and declared it safe Thursday morning. The crowds of commuters quickly returned the station, one of the country's busiest, and it has been serving millions of passengers in the days since.

Rice, in New Delhi as part of a U.S. effort to ease tensions in the region following the attacks, said the United States expects all "responsible governments" to help with the investigation and "Pakistan has a special responsibility to do so and to do so transparently, urgently and fully."

"The responsibility of the Pakistani government should be one of cooperation and of action," she said.

Mukherjee vowed to bring the suspected Muslim militants to justice but said "what action will be taken by (the Indian) government will depend on the response that we have from the Pakistan authorities."

Defense Minister A.K. Antony told his military chiefs that they needed to improve intelligence coordination so that security forces can act on all credible threats, according to a ministry statement.

The statement said Antony discussed beefing up maritime security and "reviewed in detail the preparedness against any possible terror threats from air."

Defense Ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said the moves were a precaution and not based on concrete intelligence.

"We saw how they came through the sea routes," Kar said. "We are not ruling out any threats. It's a preventive measure."

Authorities believe the gunmen responsible for last week's attacks reached Mumbai by boat after launching from Karachi, Pakistan.

Indian and U.S. officials have blamed Pakistani-based groups for the attacks and have pressured Islamabad to cooperate in the investigation.

"I have said that Pakistan needs to act with resolve and urgency, and cooperate fully and transparently," Rice said during a press conference in New Delhi. "I know too this is a time when cooperation of all parties who have any information is really required."

Rice said it was too early to say who was responsible for the attack, but: "Whether there is a direct al Qaeda hand or not, this is clearly the kind of terror in which al Qaeda participates."

So far investigators have not found the fingerprints of bin Laden in Mumbai, reports CBS News correspondent Bob Orr. But, there is evidence al Qaeda and Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistani group believed to be behind the attack, are growing closer - sharing communication links, training camps and the same deadly mission.

"Their objective is essentially a global jihad," Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace told Orr.

India has called on Pakistan to turn over 20 people who are "fugitives of Indian law" and wanted for questioning, but President Asif Ali Zardari said the suspects would be tried in Pakistan if there is evidence of wrongdoing.

"At the moment, these are just names of individuals - no proof and no investigation," he said Tuesday in an interview with CNN's Larry King. "If we had the proof, we would try them in our courts and we would try them in our land and we would sentence them."

A week after the attacks, more details of intelligence failures began to emerge, drawing further criticism to authorities already blamed for moving slowly and ineptly during the 60-hour siege carried out by 10 gunmen.

Navy chief Sureesh Mehta earlier called India's failure to act on multiple warnings "a systemic failure."

A senior U.S. intelligence official confirmed to CBS News that India was given multiple warnings, including from the U.S., that Lashkar-e-Taiba was conducting reconnaissance on hotels in Mumbai in the months before the siege.

India's foreign intelligence agency also had warnings as recently as September that Pakistan-based terrorists were plotting attacks on Mumbai, according to a government intelligence official familiar with the matter.

The information, intercepted from telephone conversations apparently coming out of Pakistan, indicated that hotels might be targeted but did not specify which ones, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk publicly about the details.

Authorities said Tuesday that ex-Pakistani army officers trained the gunmen behind the attacks - some for up to 18 months.

India has stepped up the pressure on its neighbor after interrogating Ajmal Qasab, the only surviving attacker, who told police that he and the other nine gunmen had trained for months in camps in Pakistan operated by Lashkar-e-Taiba.

CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reports that there is more detail emerging of the preparation and planning that went into the attack. Qasab has said they trained for months at a number of camps located in different regions of Pakistan. A senior Indian police official said "they underwent training in several phases, which included training in handling weapons, bomb making, survival strategies, survival in a marine environment and even dietary habits."

Little was left to chance. Not only did the terrorists arrive with bags of almonds to help sustain them through the hours of the siege, police say they used amphetamines to stay awake, reports MacVicar. One British newspaper, The Telegraph, goes further, and claims traces of cocaine, and even LSD were found in post-mortem examinations of the gunmen's bodies.

The training was "meticulous and rigorous," said a security official who spoke on the customary condition of anonymity.

The official said the gunmen sailed from Karachi in a Lashkar vessel that brought them to the waters near an Indian vessel they hijacked, the MV Kuber.

They killed three crew members and dumped their bodies in high seas, but kept the captain alive so that he could guide them into Mumbai.

The captain was killed some three nautical miles off Mumbai's coast, the official said.

Police were questioning the owner of the MV Kuber, from which investigators recovered a global positioning system that belonged to the attackers.

American officials said there is reason to suspect that the terror attacks were the work of a group at least partly based in Pakistan, although they've stopped short of mentioning Lashkar by name.

U.S. National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell, seen at left, said Tuesday the same group that carried out last week's attack is believed to be behind the Mumbai train bombings that killed more than 200 people two years ago.

While he didn't identify the group, the Indian government has attributed the 2006 attack to Lashkar and the Students Islamic Movement of India.

Last week's attacks against hotels, a restaurant and other sites across this sprawling city killed 171 people, including 26 foreigners, officials said Wednesday. The death toll was revised down from 172 after authorities realized they had counted a victim twice.

"More bodies being found is ruled out," Maharashtra state government spokesman Bhushan Gagrani said.

[pirmin3]

Can hardly wait until 20.1 when we won''t have to look at that skinny cow anymore. Get on your broom and ride honey.

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[omnibus66]

What a waste. Spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars to send her over there, and for what? To mouth a few meaningless words and get a photo op?

I''m sure that this visit by a do-nothing, know-nothing, soon to be forgotten miscreant will spur Pakistan to change its ways. The only thing that will cause Pakistan to sit up and take notice will be to stop the flow of no strings attached dollars that is currently flowing to them.

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[gocubs58]

The only thing that will satisfy the fascist police state called Islam is when you and your children are forced to put your faces in the dirt and pray to the Muslim god.

Nothing else will do.

Posted by jbrown88881

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Very well said and absolutely true.

[neo269]

Only six Americans were murdered. That''s not enough for OBie and the Dems to care about.

[formrusmcsgt]

A list of Rice''s accomplishments at State over the last 4 years:

[nothappyatall]

I''ll be so happy when "good job Ricey" the half-breed is GONE, I''m counting the hours till king george the last and Ricey and the whole band of crooks slimes out of the Whitehouse door for the LAST time!

[txgrouch2007]

A list of Rice''''s accomplishments at State over the last 4 years:
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 08:55 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Wow, that''s the same as the list of Hillary''s accomplishments in all her time as Senator.

Maybe she''ll do better as Sec''y of State. What do you think?

[txgrouch2007]

Yah, this is what we need to divert our attention from the criminals in Congress, who can now rape and pillage while nobody''s looking.

Not that THAT ever stopped them...

[txgrouch2007]

I''''ll be so happy when "good job Ricey" the half-breed is GONE
Posted by newster1 at 08:56 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Is Obama a "half-breed," too? How is his lineage different from Rice''s?

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[txgrouch2007]

Tomorrow may be too late!
Posted by goldchest at 09:01 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Sorry, our country is busy dumping money on wealthy exectives of huge businesses that have run their companies to the brink of bankruptcy and sent jobs away from the country and put workers out of work here, and they promise to do more of the same in exchange for the billions of dollars they want to get.

Busy, busy, MUCH too busy...

[cntrymuzksux]

A list of Rice''''s accomplishments at State over the last 4 years:


Posted by formrusmcsgt at 08:55 AM : Dec 03, 2008

I think you might have missed one. No wait, you got ''em all.

[txgrouch2007]

Did we blame the Saudis for the 9/11 attacks?
Posted by JesusEyes at 09:07 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Why should they when they have a Republican president to blame?

[txgrouch2007]

I think you might have missed one. No wait, you got ''''em all.
Posted by cntrymuzksux at 09:08 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Please list Hillary Clinton''s accomplish as Senator.

I think you might have missed one. Nope, that''s all of them.

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[txgrouch2007]

Umm - the boards are SO QUIET today. ALL of them.

Is there some big meeting at work this morning? At ALL COMPANIES????

I wouldn''t know. I DON''T WORK FOR A BIG COMPANY ANYMORE.

This is ominous...

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[cntrymuzksux]

Why should they when they have a Republican president to blame?


Posted by txgrouch2007 at 09:08 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Geez, all along I thought it was a conspiracy. Course, I think the worlds flat and the moon''s made out of green cheese.

[txgrouch2007]

OK, I found them. They''re all arguing about God again.

They found something IMPORTANT to talk about.

[txgrouch2007]

why do you give her so much power in your life?
Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:56 AM : Dec 03, 2008

He''s warming up for Hillary Clinton to be Sec''y of State for Obama.

Say, isn''t Hillary from the south? And isn''t Obama a "half-breed?"

Wait, I thought we were getting a "change..."

[txgrouch2007]

The terrorists used cocaine to stay awake.
Posted by AnitaY417 at 09:52 AM : Dec 03, 2008

That''s not the only thing terrorists use cocaine for.

They''ve found it very useful for BRIBING PEOPLE...

[mnm421]

Of course, Pakistan not going to hand over those terrorists. If they do, who is going to run the operation and training for rest of those wanna be terrorist. PURE ANS SIMPLE, PAKISTAN IS TERRORISTS EXPORTER!

[spinproof]

Radical and extremist elements of Islam are showing and increasing unwillingness to peacefully coexist with the non-Islamic World. Even more disturbing and even alarming is moderate Islams silence and lack of action against its radical and extremist extensions, expecting the non-Islamic World to do its dirty work for them. The problem for moderate and peace loving Islam is that most of the World sees no division between moderate or radical Islam, most of the World only sees Islam! Islam should resolve its own issues since the Islamic banner is being flown to commit these criminal acts.

[libsh8theusa]

spinproof You are 100% correct!!!!!

[libsh8theusa]

cause_b If you hate America so much then why are you on here all the time.. Oh that is right Scotland doesn''t have anyone smart enough to set up news web sites..

[promaclaura]

Hillary''s going to make Condi look like a cakewalk. Hillary seems louder and pretty tough, Condi is soft spoken in comparison. I like both women, Hillary won my respect during the campaign, as I didn''t like her before. With all that has gone on I still like Condi Rice, an outstanding American woman.

In closing, how will Hillary handle Pakistan and India? I don''t think she''ll mince too many words.

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[vsg4]

"Radical and extremist elements of Islam are showing and increasing unwillingness to peacefully coexist with the non-Islamic World. Even more disturbing and even alarming is moderate Islams silence and lack of action against its radical and extremist extensions, expecting the non-Islamic World to do its dirty work for them. The problem for moderate and peace loving Islam is that most of the World sees no division between moderate or radical Islam, most of the World only sees Islam! Islam should resolve its own issues since the Islamic banner is being flown to commit these criminal acts.

Posted by spinproof at 10:22 AM : Dec 03, 2008"

You have pointed out rightly that no moderate Islamist or cleric never open their mouth or release a statement condemning any terrorist''s. They need to express that how un Islamic it is. Looks like they silently approve such ghastly acts.

[karlo59]

People seem to forget thAt the United States is the biggest terrorist nation of them all. Nobody in their right mind would listen to these nazis in power right now. NO MORE NAZIS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, EVER AGAIN.

[runningralph]

The Pakistani government can''t be held responsible for crimes committed by criminals in India. Mexico can''t be held responsible for criminal activity of Mexicans in the US. What the Pakistani government can and should do is publicly and loudly denounce terrorist activity and go after terrorist organizations in Pakistan. The Pakistan government is between a rock and a hard place. Pakistan could face UN sanctions if they don''t take action against terrorism. If they do take action the Islamic population and the Army could revolt and the government would be destroyed. Obama has already said that he would attack Pakistan. On the other hand, he also said he would stand with his Moslem brothers. Maybe Obama can figure out a way to get Pakistan to agree on letting US/UN troops work with Pakistan troops to root out terrorist cells in Pakistan. That way the Pakistani government could avoid sanctions and mollify the Islamic population.

[specialty8]

The Islamic world needs to condem and say no more of this killing. Bin Ladden and his secretary say they are winning.They kill more muslims than anybody.It is just a matter of time before the civilized takes the whole bunch out and the whole desert will be a parking lot.

[goldchest]

The situation in Pakistan is clearly out of hand.It has a Democratically elected Government that is powerless and an Army and Intelligence Service(ISI) that is lawless and answerable to none.For the ISI the Terrorists,Al Qaeda,Taliban and other groups are Assets used to infiltrate neighbouring countries and create chaos and violence.Where do you think are all the Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders?All are protected by ISI as national Treasures while Pakistan continues blackmailing the West for more Aid -- for What?To fight Terrorism.
Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.The footprint of every global Terrorist passes through Pakistan.It is the only country that runs Terrorist training camps on its soil.It is the only Nuclear armed country whose Army has trafficked its Nuclear Weapons and also the only country threatening to use them if ever attacked.
I plead with the audience to please put pressure on your Leaders to take out these Nuclear Weapons now.Tomorrow may be too late!
God Bless!

[promaclaura]

Radical and extremist elements of Islam are showing and increasing unwillingness to peacefully coexist with the non-Islamic World. Even more disturbing and even alarming is moderate Islams silence and lack of action against its radical and extremist extensions, expecting the non-Islamic World to do its dirty work for them. The problem for moderate and peace loving Islam is that most of the World sees no division between moderate or radical Islam, most of the World only sees Islam! Islam should resolve its own issues since the Islamic banner is being flown to commit these criminal acts.



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Posted by spinproof at 10:22 AM : Dec 03, 2008

Exactly! Although, I must add that my children''s pediatrician is a Muslim and from Pakistan. I''m a catholic, white woman who thinks he''s a wonderful and caring doctor. Always extra concerned about his patients and practicing here for decades.

I think Muslim leaders in the middle east should start talking the talk. Walking the walk, in the shadow of the U.S. is not working. We have to fight this fight to protect ourselves, but should not have to take the lead in other countries.

[txgrouch2007]

Hillary''''s going to make Condi look like a cakewalk. Posted by promaclaura at 10:31 AM : Dec 03, 2008

If you had ANY IDEA what a racist comment that was, you probably would have chosen a different word.

Look up "the c-word" at the end of that sentence. Find out the ORIGINS of that word.

[promaclaura]

Mosque and Madarassa are used to spew venom and hate on non Muslims and recruitment ground for tomorrows killers.
Posted by goldchest

Watching video of these "indoctrined" students is downright chilling.

[specialty8]

Karlo59,
You seem to forget how much money this country gives to your sorry butts so you can eat and have some since of being civlized.Go talk to China and see how much aid they will send.I say keep our money here and let them provide for themselves.

[promaclaura]

Hillary''''''''s going to make Condi look like a cakewalk. Posted by promaclaura at 10:31 AM : Dec 03, 2008

If you had ANY IDEA what a racist comment that was, you probably would have chosen a different word.

Look up "the c-word" at the end of that sentence. Find out the ORIGINS of that word.



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Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:58 AM : Dec 03, 2008

txgrouch2007 - "Cakewalk" = a game at a children''s festival, where the P.T.A. provides baked goods and cakes. Nothing remotely "racist" about this and I don''t care about any history of the word.

[olfishgut]

Condo Rice tells Pakistan, "Do as I say, not as I do."

[mrmeatspin]

Condo Rice tells Pakistan, "Do as I say, not as I do."


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Posted by olFishGut at 11:08 AM : Dec 03, 2008
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pakistan tells Mumbai "stop fighting it makes it harder for us to kill you....listen to the liberal media..you guys are defeated"

[specialty8]

txgrouch,
Get over the race card stuff.The man is no longer holding anybody down.He is now the the man and the excuses are over.Sometimes you get what you don''t want.

[mrmeatspin]

its nice to see that things are running normal in the liberal realm..

worried about the reputation of a terrorist..

[mrmeatspin]

for a liberal..everything or anybody that gets killed by a terrorist ARE NOW RENDERED EVIL and must suffer a justifiable death

just like in africa..to solve the problem..take the liberals out