U.S. Fears Pakistan Role In India Attacks
6 Americans Among 195 Killed In Mumbai Terror Siege
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Americans killed in Mumbai attacks, from left: Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg,13-year-old Naomi Scherr, and her 58-year-old father Alan Scherr. (AP/Synchronicity)
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A Chabad-Lubavitch movement spokesman says Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his Israeli wife, Rivka, have been killed in Mumbai. They ran the movement's local headquarters, which was one of 10 sites attacked. (AP)
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FBI agents were preparing to fly to India to investigate the bloody attacks in the Indian financial capital as the State Department warned U.S. citizens still in the city that their lives remain at risk.
A U.S. counterterrorism official said some "signatures of the attack" were consistent with the work of Pakistani militant groups known as Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed that have fought Indian troops in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir and also are reported to be linked to al Qaeda.
But the official emphasized it was premature to pinpoint who was responsible for the attacks. Another official, specializing in counterintelligence, also cautioned against rushing to judgment on the origins of the gunmen who waged a two-and-a-half-day rampage through India's leading commercial center before being killed.
The U.S. officials spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.
The U.S. Embassy in New Delhi on Saturday raised the death toll among Americans from five to six including at least three a Jewish outreach center and a man and his 13-year-old daughter killed when gunfire erupted at a hotel restaurant. Embassy officials gave no details on the identity of the sixth victim.
Will Geddes, an international risk assessment specialist, told The Saturday Early Show that the attacks were the worst nightmare about how terrorists go about an attack.
By hitting hotels, the terrorists hit everyone that they could possibly want to. They hit the international community and they hit Indians, Geddes said. For al Qaeda, hotels are a favored target as they do just that - hitting everyone at the same time. Hotels in India are used not fore foreign travelers to stay in but also as offices by travelling staff.
India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars over Kashmir. U.S. officials are concerned about a flare-up in animosity similar to one that occurred after Pakistani militants attacked the Indian parliament in December 2001, the officials said.
Underscoring those fears, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has called the foreign minister of India twice, along with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, since the crisis began.
"There were very worrying tensions in the region," said Gordon Duguid, a State Department spokesman. "She was calling the president of Pakistan to get his read on how those tensions might be affected."
As U.S. officials worked to ease hard feelings between India and Pakistan, a tentative rapprochement between the two nuclear-armed rivals could hang in the balance.
Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani, said in a statement that his country is "confronting the menace of terrorism with great vigor." Haqqani insisted "it is unfair to blame Pakistan or Pakistanis for these acts of terrorism even before an investigation is undertaken."
President George W. Bush pledged cooperation with Indian authorities and mourned the deaths of at least 195 people at the hands of gunmen.
"My administration has been working with the Indian government and the international community as Indian authorities work to ensure the safety of those still under threat," Bush said in statement Friday.
Bush was receiving regular updates, White House press secretary Dana Perino said Friday night. Senior administration officials were focused on ensuring that Americans were being helped in every way possible, she said.
Duguid, the State Department spokesman, cautioned that "Americans are still at risk on the ground," and repeated calls for U.S. citizens not to travel to the stricken city at least through the weekend.
Officials were working out the final details with Indian diplomats Friday for the departure of an FBI team, said U.S. authorities, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicate nature of the operation. A second group of investigators was on alert to join the first team if necessary.
U.S. officials were checking with Indian authorities and hospitals to learn more about the extent of casualties.
Among the dead were:
Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg, 29, and his wife, Rivkah, 28. They were killed in an attack on the ultra-Orthodox Chabad-Lubavitch movement's center in Mumbai, Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin said in New York. Officials could not confirm whether Rivkah Holtzberg was, like her husband, an American citizen, or whether she was the sixth American fatality the embassy in New Delhi alluded to on Saturday.
Bentzion Chroman, an Israeli with dual U.S. citizenship who was visiting the center.
Rabbi Leibish Teitlebaum of Brooklyn, N.Y., who was visiting the center.
Alan Scherr, 58, and daughter Naomi, 13, of Virginia, who died in a cafe Wednesday night. They lived at the Synchronicity Foundation sanctuary about 15 miles southwest of Charlottesville, Va., and were among 25 foundation participants in a spiritual program in Mumbai, said Bobbie Garvey, a spokeswoman for the foundation, which promotes a form of meditation.
Duguid said consular staff would continue to work with Indian police until all missing Americans were accounted for.
U.S. officials have activated a phone tree to contact American citizens who registered with the U.S. consulate in Mumbai, State Department spokesman Robert McInturff said.
President-elect Barack Obama has spoken by telephone with Rice about the attacks and received several intelligence briefings, State Department officials said. They said Rice spoke again Friday with Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
"These terrorists who targeted innocent civilians will not defeat India's great democracy, nor shake the will of a global coalition to defeat them," Obama said in a statement. "The United States must stand with India and all nations and people who are committed to destroying terrorist networks, and defeating their hate-filled ideology."
The State Department set up a call center for Americans concerned about family members who may be in Mumbai. The number is 1-888-407-4747.
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- U.S. Fears (Hopes) Pakistan Role In India Attacks, and if we don''''t have the evidence we can manufacture it like we did for Iraq.
Posted by InTheShade at 07:31 AM : Dec 01, 2008
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and if there is..liberals and terrorist would just say its justified because some christian 600 years ago killed mayan indians...
terrorists are very dependent on people like "InTheShade" to throw in the fog and fireworks to distract the masses.. - Reply to this comment
- A vermin...whose sole purpose is to mislead the gullibles citizens of the world is crawling about out here maintaining 24 hours vigil spewing fake false propaganda clearly doing the cover-up tricks of his true masters who maybe the real masterminds of the Mumbai attack....''dont think though he''s under payroll of pakistani''s dirty trick spy agency ISI...maybe then 1st blood cousins of the lunatic Mumbai murderers.
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- "India and Pak are not identical victims of terr%u2019sm. The fact is that Pak%u2019n likes violence, harbors and nurtures LET, JEM, allows indoctrination in Madrassas, harbors Dawood and other recluses such as Azhar released in exchange of hijackers. Pak%u2019n is thus a victim of its own actions&inactions. They haven%u2019t changed a zilch and it does not look like they will ever change. India need not be a victim of terrorism like Pak%u2019n. So if the source of madness resides in Pak%u2019n, that needs to be scorched.
Posted by mitaj01 at 12:49 AM : Dec 01, 2008"
I agree with you. Pakistan so far charged US 11 billions in so called fighting terrorism as they say it. Now they are threatening to with draw 100,000 troops from Pakistan/Afghanistan border if US insists on dealing with the investigation of the LeT links in this ghastly terrorism act. Us should also insist on alleged Saudi''s funding of Lek like terrorist organizations. - Reply to this comment
- some peaceloving terrorists'''' inbred 1/2 brother is lurking somewhere here...maligning everyone the Hindus,the Jews,the Christians....instead of repenting... terrorists are know to take a lot of false names too.
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Posted by proudKafir at 05:34 AM : Dec 01, 2008
as in MikeTotten1 - Reply to this comment
- U.S. Fears (Hopes) Pakistan Role In India Attacks, and if we don''t have the evidence we can manufacture it like we did for Iraq.
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- some peaceloving terrorists'' inbred 1/2 brother is lurking somewhere here...maligning everyone the Hindus,the Jews,the Christians....instead of repenting... terrorists are know to take a lot of false names too.
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- "US FEARS"-maybe when the weak cowardly "leader" in the White House leaves in Jan,the US will not be so fearful.
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- India and Pak are not identical victims of terr%u2019sm. The fact is that Pak%u2019n likes violence, harbors and nurtures LET, JEM, allows indoctrination in Madrassas, harbors Dawood and other recluses such as Azhar released in exchange of hijackers. Pak%u2019n is thus a victim of its own actions&inactions. They haven%u2019t changed a zilch and it does not look like they will ever change. India need not be a victim of terrorism like Pak%u2019n. So if the source of madness resides in Pak%u2019n, that needs to be scorched.
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- India and Pak are not identical victims of terr%u2019sm. The fact is that Pak%u2019n likes violence, harbors and nurtures LET, JEM, allows indoctrination in Madrassas, harbors Dawood and other recluses such as Azhar released in exchange of hijackers. Pak%u2019n is thus a victim of its own actions&inactions. They haven%u2019t changed a zilch and it does not look like they will ever change. India need not be a victim of terrorism like Pak%u2019n. So if the source of madness resides in Pak%u2019n, that needs to be scorched.
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- MikeTotten1
He (they) are paid by a Saudi/Wahabist organization set up in the United States.
This poster is on this website for over 14 hours a day 7 days a week.
Please check out the amount of posts between pages 1-26 and read the time clock - Reply to this comment
- Miketotten1
Is an imposter who has used a reporters name to spread lies and distortions.
He is paid by a Saudi/Wahabist organization set up in the United States.
This poster is on this website for over 14 hours a day 7 days a week.
Please check it out for yourself - Reply to this comment
- It looks like you have given up, and have nothing to offer but comical personal attacks.
I accept your surrender.
Posted by MikeTotten1
I gave you ample time to post facts pertaining to the Indian murders, you gave nothing just a made up conspiracy theory. You have tried to introduce all kinds of periferal nonsense which has nothing to do with the murders because your are at a loss for real facts, evidence and ethical arguement.
Declaring yourself a winner is ok, very imature, with me as it is a sure sign you have nothing intelectual to offer. - Reply to this comment
- Care to try again?
Posted by MikeTotten1 at 10:09 PM : Nov 30, 2008
You offer nothing to discuss just you''re fabricated conspiracy theory opinions, you can''t control the debate with no factually based arguement. You can''t get past all of the made up conspiracy to have a discussion with me. I can discuss most anything with people who I strongly disagree so long as it is a factually based discussion and lies are left off the table. You only offer empty lying rhetoric to build a fake conspiracy, wanting to impress people by the mountain of lies you post. - Reply to this comment
- The Israelis have been supplying "trainers" to the Indian security forces for some time now.
The Israelis are sending "investigators" to the scene, giving them an opportunity to reach whatever conclusions that they would like to about who is responsible for the attacks.
Posted by MikeTotten1 at 09:46 PM : Nov 30, 2008
You are just trying to peddle a useless trumped up lying conspiracy theory, you have no proof or any evidence for what you say just things you make up as you go along.
Just a lot of empty talk "JUST WORDS JUST WORDS" - Reply to this comment
- I''''m not sure what you are talking about. The Israelis are the only known group proven to have a chronic policy of hiding behind "human shields"- proven beyond any doubt, before their own Supreme Court.
At any rate, are you suggesting that the Israelis should look to "the terrorists" as role models?
They seem to be doing a very good job of this already.
Posted by MikeTotten1 at 09:24 PM : Nov 30, 2008
Got your b&tt kicked on the other posting site.
So now you are over here trying to peddle you empty lying talk about it being Israel. You have no proof at all just a lot of made up stuff with nothing to back it up.
You need to quit trying to pass yourself off as Mike Totten also, you''re a phony spreading lies around, no basis for any of your propoganda. - Reply to this comment
- I''''m not sure what you are talking about. The Israelis are the only known group proven to have a chronic policy of hiding behind "human shields"- proven beyond any doubt, before their own Supreme Court.
At any rate, are you suggesting that the Israelis should look to "the terrorists" as role models?
They seem to be doing a very good job of this already.
Posted by MikeTotten1 at 09:24 PM : Nov 30, 2008
Got your b&tt kicked on the other posting site.
So now you are over here trying to peddle you empty lying talk about it being Israel. You have no proof at all just a lot of made up stuff with nothing to back it up.
You need to quit trying to pass yourself off as Mike Totten also, you''re a phony spreading lies around, no basis for any of your propoganda. - Reply to this comment
- "a Likud MK proposed using Hamas and Islamic Jihad prisoners as human shields to deter future rocket attacks."
What''s wrong with that? Why not give terrorists a taste of their own medicine? - Reply to this comment
- We shouldn''t have invaded Iraq. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are where our enemies dwell.
My condolences to the Indians. It''s way past time for the B52s to carpet-bomb Pakistan. - Reply to this comment
- American born Islamic followers with symphony towards Al Queda and Taliban efforts abroad, are now killing American Bald Eagles at an alarming rate. So far these supporters have killed about 60 out of the known 380 still left in the world. Actions by the Federal Government are under way to stop and demise of our national bird from extinction.
Do your part to stop this madness! - Reply to this comment
- By the way Mike, if you were correct that the mossad orchestrated this, how sad that these arabs would engage in such terrorist acts for israel (9-11 and Mumbai), knowing how it would be blamed on thier arab bretheran. Either way you look at it, these muslim terrorists act worse than animals
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