Iraq Vets Sue Cops Over Alleged Urine Lick

Two Wisconsin Guardsmen Say Cops Forced Them To Lap Up Urine During Encounter

(AP)  Two Iraq war veterans allege in a federal lawsuit they were forced by smalltown Wisconsin police officers to lap up what was believed to be urine.

Wisconsin National Guardsmen Anthony Anderson and Robert Schiman filed the suit against the city of Wisconsin Dells, its police chief and three officers last week in U.S. District Court in Madison.

The guardsmen, both of whom have served two tours of duty in Iraq, were in the Dells for weekend training. Two police officers stopped them in the early morning of June 1.

The suit says officers Wayne Thomas and Collin Jacobson accused the guardsmen of urinating in public and pointed out a wet spot in an alley that they thought was urine. The guardsmen denied having relieved themselves there.

In order to prove that it was not their urine and avoid citations, the officers made Anderson and Schiman lick the ground, the lawsuit claims. Schiman also was made to eat a plant that was drenched in the liquid, it states.

The lawsuit claims a third officer arrived at the scene and was told by Jacobson, "I can't stop laughing. Wayne just made those two guys lick their own piss off the ground."

After both Anderson and Schiman licked the wet ground, Anderson was forced to do it again after one of the officers claimed he didn't see it, the suit claims.

The lawsuit states that Thomas, 19, was fired the same day as the incident and Jacobson, 20, was suspended for two weeks without pay. Both were limited term police officers.

The lawsuit seeks $600,000 in compensatory and punitive damages for each of the guardsmen, along with other unspecified damages and costs.

The suit alleges infliction of emotional distress; negligent hiring, training and supervision of Thomas and Jacobson; false imprisonment and violation of the Constitutional and civil rights of Anderson and Schiman.

Thomas' and Jacobson's attorney, Jason Baltz, and City Attorney James Gerlach did not immediately return calls Wednesday seeking comment.

[Krazcarl]

Tell me again that cops are our friends. The thrills of a police state....

[citizenusa-2009]

And you wonder why people don''t respect policeman..sickening..

[ramos937]

I am not the bravest man in the world but I would not have done the lick. After they finally released me, I would have sued the City and all cops there on their individual status.

The City should bring charges of offical opporession again these two cops.

[clathrate]

What the hell is a down doing hiring 19 and 20 year olds as cops? How incredibly stupid.

They should use the two kiddie cops as target practice for the Army snipers.

[jamster31]

I and most men would''ve went to jail before licking that. Sounds like they were all idiots

[happyass3]

I used to live not to far from Wisconsin Dells and worked there in the summer as a kid. It is nothing but a big tourist trap and I am not surprised these cops did this. They knew they were dealing with tourists and probably wouldn''t have to face them again. I agree that handing a gun to a 19 and 20 year old is pretty dumb. I think a person should have to be at least 21 before they can be hired as a cop. I think I agree with most and I would have just taken the citation and been done with it. I can''t believe how many people say they were "made" to do something. It was their choice to avoid the ticket and lick the urine so they weren''t the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

[reallyme2]

I can''''t believe how many people say they were "made" to do something. It was their choice to avoid the ticket and lick the urine so they weren''''t the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

Posted by happyass3 at 01:46 PM : Nov 26, 2008

The cops pretty much had these guys over a barrel... Them being in the military- returning late from a pass/missing formation or movement having legal difficulties are all major no nos. Having to explain to a CO any of the above makes them more susceptible to manipulation.

The cops are pathetic and should be put away for their egos and abuse of authority.

[walt1944-2009]

It''s nice to know that we have such degenerates in uniform protecting us from the crooks and "terrrrrrrorists" out there. Cops like these should be on the Blackwater USSA payroll "protecting" billionares and stuffed shirts in Iraq! I''m sure they would find a home there!

SIG HEIL, IT''S THE POLICE, NOT THE VETS, WHO ARE "PATRIOTS"!!!, BUSH!!!

[bbpkr]

Those Despicable Punks! Another Strong Case to revive
Public Stocks & Flogging.

[slim1h2o]

I''d like to meet a cop that could make me do that....


Long time, no see crzmeat......

[Krazcarl]

Heh slim been on the road Good to see you hanging. Why are not these piges in jail we did that we would one pig gets 2 weeks without pay and have to use vacation time..What a joke...You think a black president will help :-)...

[dburfears]

"The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse." - President James Madison

This happens ALL of the time. This time they just got caught. The rest of the 99.9% of the time they either silence the witnesses through intimidation or just "deny, deny, deny". You cannot trust the cops. Most of them are barely High School graduates with a long list of assaults in their past. They grew up as bullies. Now they are bullies with badges and guns. What do you expect when you hire people for barely a living wage? These are not the brightest bulbs.

What you can do to protect yourself.
1) If you see a cop, walk the other way.
2) Never call a cop unless you have NO choice.
3) Stay in groups and public places so there are witnesses.
4) Seep an audio recorder with you and activate it any time a cop is near you.
5) Never agree to a "voluntary" search. There is no such thing. Cops will plant something on you to protect their azzes.
6) Never trust a cop.


"When The People Fear The Government, There Is Tyranny; When The Government Fears The People, There Is Liberty. " -- Thomas Jefferson

[kansas1946]

These officers should have been charged with assault and put in jail instead of fired.

[toolmangler-2009]

These guys have some responibility here. F=IW (Freedom = I Wont) (Apologies to Eric Frank Russel)

If you lay face down on the ground and refuse with outstretched arms to perform any despicable act like that, you force the cop to break the law, and he knows it too. Then he has to arrest you or let you go.
And NO! I am not stupid or naive. I have lived a long time and have my own honor. You may kill me, but you can''t make me dishonor myself. (Spare me the horror stories). If you understand what honor is, you will accept my words as fact

[lmartink]

This is just one more case of stupid, arrogant, asinine behavior by idiot cops. Stay tuned -- next week it will be some other scofflaw behavior by idiotic pigs.

In many cases, our police have become a gangbanger style group of thugs and bullies. The problem is that police in this country have become isolated from their communities. They cover up their own stupid or lawless acts. Criminals run rampant. Most murders and many other felonies go uncaught or unpunished.

It''s not working folks! It''s not working. A major overhaul of law enforcement is in order.

And many of "our finest" should be fired or prosecuted. Throw them into prison with the gangbangers. Justice would finally come to them, swift and sure.

[lmartink]

My apologies for the comment below. To refer to cops as pigs in the same sentence is an insult to many of our fine four-legged pigs everywhere.

There is no comparison, and I regret the error.

[babooph]

Better not let anyone like me on the jury.

[dixxson-2009]

There is no Phil Donahue Show to Showcase these criminals, main stem media is busy with Lyndey Lohan,
so this continues to happen everyday. And like (LmartinK) said, Criminals run Amouk.
Criminalized police departments contribute to crime by committing crimes themselves, and by creating distrust of police throughout communities.
Citizen simply will not come forward with infor formation they think they might have, because they are Fearful and distrust police. So crimes go unsolved forever!

[slim1h2o]

man, you are kinkie

Posted by DaVicar1 at 05:08 PM : Nov 26, 2008

LOL....Now you know what I meant.....

As in,," I would have to take these guys out of the gene pool"

[earache4]

What a pisser...

[bubbi55]

I live in the Dells and posted about this at my blog before it hit the papers. This is no suprise. Each summer they hire extra officers for the tourist season.

If you google the officer Scott Albrecht and read about a local reporter going on a "Ride Along" with him and how the story ended up watered down you will see what I mean.

Both of the young cops should have been fired and Albrecht recieve the suspension if not fired too.
We have a few good officers but the rest rely on threats and intimidation.

[spredbury]

Typical actions of today''s law enforcement. Cops think they can do what ever they want and won''t face repercussions for their actions which is usually true. Both cops should be tried for abuse of power or any other law that may apply and sent to jail to spend some intimate time with some real cop lovers. Members of law enforcement are no longer worthy of anyone%u2019s admiration, at least not mine. I''m amazed that any action was taken against these cops. Usually they get off with no punative action. I%u2019m sure there are good cops out there but it seems lately all you read about are the bad ones. Maybe the bad ones are in the majority.

[panhandlpete]

Sounds like these cops, if you can call them that, took their pentup anger out on two national guardsmen. I say their superiors should be held accountable as well for hiring unqualified/mentally deranged personnel to strap on guns and walk the streets.

Protocol would have been to arrest the two on public disorderly conduct, kept their mouths shut and made no comments, and let the guardsmen negotiate with the DA as to whether the charges were bonafide. No, they abused their power, and became all powerful, and tried convicted and awarded punishment. SEND them to the nearest PRISON so they can get a taste of their own medicine.

Respect is earned. It is not mandatory because you pin on a shiny badge, wear a black robe, or fight in a war.

[cdfoxtrot5]

I guess these troops get a "taste" of their own medicine, getting an ideal of what it''s like for "Eye-Rackis" to be humiliated and debased by our "brave" troops in "Eye-Rack".

[toolmangler-2009]

I guess these troops get a "taste" of their own medicine, getting an ideal of what it''''s like for "Eye-Rackis" to be humiliated and debased by our "brave" troops in "Eye-Rack".

Posted by cdfoxtrot5 at 02:24 PM : Nov 28, 2008



If you are real sure these guys did that why aren''t you pis sing on them also.

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by cdfoxtrot5 at 02:24 PM : Nov 28, 2008


Heres somebody else to pis$ on. you even have his address.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/27/earlyshow/main4636470.shtml