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President Hugo Chavez Welcomes Flotilla As Moscow Seeks To Flex Muscle In Region

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(CBS/AP)  Russian warships sailed into a Venezuelan port Tuesday, greeted by a 21-gun salute and an eager welcome from President Hugo Chavez as Moscow seeks to expand its influence in Latin America.

Russians sailors dressed in black-and-white uniforms lined up along the bow of the destroyer Admiral Chabanenko as it docked in La Guaira, near Caracas. The deployment is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas - the first ever by a Russian president.

For the past six months, it seems that Medvedev has been working hard to dismantle his liberal image and revive memories of the Cold War, reports CBS News' Alexsei Kuznetsov.

Chavez, basking in the support of a powerful ally and traditional U.S. rival, wants Russian help to build a nuclear reactor, invest in oil and natural gas projects and bolster his leftist opposition to U.S. influence in Latin America.

Chavez also wants weapons - he has bought more than $4 billion in Russian arms, including Sukhoi fighter jets, helicopters and 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles, and more deals for Russian tanks or other weaponry may be discussed after Medvedev arrives Wednesday.

Russia's deployment of the naval squadron - the behemoth flagship Peter the Great, the missile destroyer and two support vessels - is widely seen as a demonstration of Kremlin anger over the U.S. decision to send warships to deliver aid to Georgia after its battles with Russia, and U.S. plans for a European missile-defense system.

But Bush administration officials mocked the show of force.

"Are they accompanied by tugboats this time?" U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack joked to reporters in Washington. He noted that Russia's navy is but a shadow of its Soviet-era fleet, and reasserted U.S. dominance in Latin America.

"I don't think there's any question about ... who the region looks to in terms of political, economic, diplomatic and as well as military power," McCormack said. "If the Venezuelans and the Russians want to have, you know, a military exercise, that's fine. But we'll obviously be watching it very closely."

Venezuelan sailors stood at attention along the pier where the destroyer docked, while two support ships also pulled into port. The Peter the Great, the largest ship in the Russian fleet, anchored offshore in the distance due to its size.

When Russia sent two strategic bombers to Venezuela in September, some drew comparisons to the Soviet Union's deployments to Cuba during the Cold War.

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If the Venezuelans and the Russians want to have, you know, a military exercise, that's fine. But we'll obviously be watching it very closely.

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack
But both countries have also shown signs of trying to engage President-elect Barack Obama.

And Chavez told reporters that it's ludicrous to invoke the Cold War to describe the naval exercises beginning Dec. 1.

"It's not a provocation. It's an exchange between two free countries," Chavez said.

Russia's ambitions to make inroads in Latin America may be checked by global events. Both Venezuela and Russia are feeling the pinch of slumping oil prices, and their ability to be major benefactors for like-minded leaders is in doubt given the pressures of the world's financial crisis.

The maneuvers starting Dec. 1 "should be viewed largely as a propaganda exercise," said Anna Gilmour, an analyst at Jane's Intelligence Review.

"Pragmatic Russian policy suggests that it will content itself with a brief high-profile visit, rather than a longer-term deployment that could cause severe tensions with the U.S., at a time when Russia may be looking to re-engage with the new administration," she said.

Next week, the warships will participate in exercises enabling sailors to practice reconnaissance, anti-drug patrols, anti-terrorism and search and rescue operations. There will also be anti-aircraft exercises involving Venezuela's newly bought Sukhoi fighter jets, though no live ammunition will be used, Rear Adm. Luis Morales Marquez said.

He said two of the Sukhois welcomed the ships with a flyover early Tuesday as they neared the coast.

Medvedev's tour this week to Peru, Brazil, Venezuela and Cuba was planned before the financial crisis, and Russia must now downsize its ambitions in Latin America because its pockets are no longer so deep, said Fyodor Lukyanov, the editor of Russia in Global Affairs Magazine.

"Russia will have to put off big projects like the construction of a gas pipeline across South America," Lukyanov said. The proposed natural gas pipeline is Chavez's brainchild, a controversial and ambitious plan for which he has explored Russian investment.

But Russia still has an economic interest in selling more weapons and boosting business in Latin America, and Venezuela can help "open the doors," noted Venezuelan political scientist Ricardo Sucre Heredia.

"It's a win-win relationship for the two countries," Sucre said. "Russia gains in terms of its international power and its presence, and Venezuela gains in terms of having an ally."

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by jgunther7 November 26, 2008 12:31 PM EST
You guys are much better than my spell checker.
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by jgunther7 November 26, 2008 12:21 PM EST
Countries like Iran, Brazil, Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Peru have natural resources that the super powers China and the United States desire. With their all powerful militaries, the super powers are prone to overrun the weaker countries and take what they want without paying. Iraq being a case in point. The attempted coup in Venezuela and attempted assignation of Hugo Chavez by navy seals being another. It makes little sense for the smaller countries to partner with the super powers, as it is those super powers that they need protection from. The smaller countries are not a threat to each other and can therefore gain by banding together for security. For example, Brazil and Russia do not have any motivation to invade Venezuela and take its oil, because they have their own oil. They can all benefit from the nuclear deterrent of Russia and Russia can benefit from having an international presence.
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by downtowner97 November 26, 2008 11:57 AM EST
Bush has just under two months to get us into a war with Russia, Venezuela and Iran. Let''s see if he can do it!
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by biblethumpar November 26, 2008 11:32 AM EST
william209 , Google " Operation Condor"
Iran Contra. etc.
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by trishab56 November 26, 2008 11:10 AM EST
By developing like minded allies around the world, they increase their own security. Their allies likewise gain from the synergy of being included in a greater defence umbrella, and both parties benefit.
Posted by jgunther7 at 07:26 AM : Nov 26, 2008

-nicely said, missing something though. If Russians are tempted by the American capitalist venture (not to say adventure!), they better watch out! See what chaos we are in! Expanding their influence means also sharing their wealth with the partners they''re developing, inducing an attempt to self-indebting which is not bad per se, but that could reveal deleterous if debt was contracted with foreign countries, like we are doing now!

-Of course Russians are not partnering with Haiti. Strategic Oil rich Venezuela can exchange its purchase orders with oil values over the mercantile system and pay the Russians. In fact, Venezuela would better ally with China because of its evident superiority in man-power and potential market over Russian over the midterm range, if they chose not to ally with the United States because of it''s ''recently'' failed economic balance. Maybe Chavez can''t stand Chinese leaders and is less attracted by the Oriental culture...
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by krescera November 26, 2008 10:45 AM EST
The Russian navy does not probably know crude oil price is hovering around $5o per barrel !!!
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by jgunther7 November 26, 2008 10:26 AM EST
Russia has no desire or need to attack or invade the US. They already have all the resources, oil, timber, gold, iron, titanium and land that they could possibly need. Why would they want part of a country like the US with an umpteen trillion-dollar deficit?

All they are doing is expanding their national commerce and sphere of influence as a means of self protection. By developing like minded allies around the world, they increase their own security. Their allies likewise gain from the synergy of being included in a greater defence umbrella, and both parties benefit.

Learning from the mistakes of the Soviet system, the new Russia will only invests enough gross national product in defence to secure their safety. While their defence budget is only a small fraction of the US defence budget, it is sufficient that they could still retaliate by destroying the rest of the world if China or we should attack. However, with all the wealth they hold they must remain constantly vigilant.

As a consequence, the United States will have to relinquish any plans they might hold of taking Russian or Venezuelan resources and concentrate on developing their own. The cold war is no more. The US military industrial complex will have to downsize, and the US will have to redeploy their resources into new areas of self improvement.
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by ajmarine111 November 26, 2008 8:35 AM EST
Is this figure, who claims to be president of the United States, the same who pledged an oath to "protect, preserve and defend" the document he calls a "GD)((#@*! piece of paper"?



Posted by alphaa10000 at 03:57 AM : Nov 26, 2008



I''ve heard this said,....but I can never find a site that "says" he said it or when.

Do you have one.
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by emelder November 26, 2008 8:02 AM EST
Our cowboy President is nearly gone. Can''t wait!
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by tdub771 November 26, 2008 7:52 AM EST
Alpha Bush never said that. You need to stop lieing for you own gain. Obama already won. He is going to keep this country great. You watch you little weezle. watch. Ha ha
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by tdub771 November 26, 2008 7:50 AM EST
Oh wait the internet. You find it there its true. You can find people cutting other peoples heads of on the internet. You can find anything. Hey god is coming. America has done so much good for the world. What other nation has done so much in such a short time. Give me a break people. This country is going to always be great. Yea we made some mistakes but only history get to judge them and as for Iraq its to early to tell if its going to be a mistake. Well Saddam will never mess with anyone again. Nobody like Hitler will ever rise again. America didn''t step in soon enough on that one and look what happen. The thing is we really do believe in never again. The world owes a great deal to America. Its called freedom and we have done more to spread it in 200 plus years than any other nation in the history of the planet earth. Some of you wish to see us fail. Well ha ha wont happen now go to sleep so you can dream about what you only wish you could be.
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by tdub771 November 26, 2008 7:43 AM EST
Did that guy say Bill gates. Huh yea because windows is responcible for killing people. Come on Bush took down and evil dictator of Iraq. Russia doesn''t do anything but cause trouble. Most of these folks talking *** about the U.S. are not from here but Americans are smarter than that. The russians always say we are going to fall apart. They dont know anything. This country is great and if you talk to most people on the streets you wont find many who think Bad of there own country. History will judge Bush on Iraq and Iraq will be free and safe 20 years from now. I love how some of you think This great nation is going down. People always wish the great ones would fail. Its not going to happen. Remember we can kick anybodys but in a war. You fools need to wake up. Ha ha. This is funny. Bill gates. Why did that dude say that. Ha
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by glidescube November 26, 2008 5:46 AM EST
So now if only Venezuela can get a ship they can play with the Russians too.
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by humanavance November 26, 2008 2:33 AM EST
"The CIA has destroyed many democracies in Latin America, including Guatemala in 1954, Brazil in 1964, the Dominican Republic in 1965, and Chile in 1973. The CIA installed military dictatorships in these countries to insure the continuance of U.S. corporate domination."
mtracy12


This is of course true and well documented, and unfortunately only a few of the many crimes our nation has perpetrated against others.

But I had hoped we would have learned, or at least Obama would have learned, the evils of our past and renounced them.

But instead Obama will continue to use criminals like Bill Gates, and many other historical cohorts, to continue America''s crimes against other nations and our own people.

And just think, most all of us voted for it.
ST


"Five coincidences make a plan."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

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by yongamerica November 26, 2008 2:32 AM EST
Where''d you get that from? The x-files?
Posted by william209

Any one with rudimentary knowledge of South American History knows this.
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by ioweign November 26, 2008 2:21 AM EST
''''''''The CIA has destroyed many democracies in Latin America, including Guatemala in 1954, Brazil in 1964, the Dominican Republic in 1965, and Chile in 1973. The CIA installed military dictatorships in these countries to insure the continuance of U.S. corporate domination.''''''''

Where''''''''d you get that from? The x-files?

You wont find it on the Fox News propaganda channel, or most of the other U.S. corporate media stations. But, the truth is easy to find on the Internet if your interested.

Posted by mtracy12 at 11:14 PM : Nov 25, 2008



Google "Operation AJAX" for an example of CIA workmanship...
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by humanavance November 26, 2008 2:13 AM EST
Welcome to Bush and Obama''s Brave New America.

Be careful what you wish for.
ST


"The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live - did live, from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and except in darkness, every movement scrutinised."
George Orwell, 1984

A Future of the Brave
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by humanavance November 26, 2008 1:56 AM EST
"Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814

"And so together we shared the fate of all the failed democracies before us, joining those pitiful beings who had held the light of freedom in one hand, and put it out with the other."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave
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by guadalcanal3 November 26, 2008 1:41 AM EST
S''cuse me...my last post was meant for ginger20051...
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