Nuke Facility Raid An Inside Job?

Eyewitness Talks To 60 Minutes About Brazen Assault On South African Nuclear Facility

(CBS)  What does the South African government have to say? Pelley asked Ambassador Abdul Minty, one of South Africa's top officials on nuclear policy.

"So far, the evidence we have is that it was an attempt at burglary. People went to the one facility and tried to take, for example, a notebook computer which they left behind, subsequently," Minty says.

"You're not saying that the intrusion at Pelindaba was designed to take a laptop computer?" Pelley asks.

"No, no. I'm saying it was probably a burglary attempt from what evidence we have," Minty replies.

"Mr. Ambassador, the point is, what's valuable at Pelindaba? And the answer is the radiological materials. Nobody would break into a national key point in South Africa to steal office machines," Pelley points out.

"No, you know, the Pelindaba facility is off a main road. There's a lot of traffic on that road. So, if they felt that here is a facility that has gates, that has security, maybe there's something valuable," Minty says.

"Are you saying they attacked the plant not knowing what it was?" Pelley asks.

"No, I'm saying no one knows what the motivation is. So, we have to keep to the facts and the truth," Minty replies.

The facts that we know were recorded. A camera at the fence taped the intruders, but guards who were supposed to be watching the monitors didn’t report the men. A phone log that 60 Minutes has seen shows that 24 minutes passed between Gerber's call for help and the arrival of security. Gerber suspects someone in security was in on the plot. And he's suing Pelindaba.

CEO Rob Adam says it took security "a couple of minutes" to arrive, but that he doesn't have the exact figure.

"There's a lawsuit in this case, you may be aware of, that's been filed, that suggests that it was 24 minutes before the security arrived after that telephone call," Pelley points out.

"I'm aware of the allegation. We'll respond to it when we need to in court," Adam says.

"You've done an investigation. You're in charge of the plant. Did it take 24 minutes for them to get there?" Pelley asks.

"It took, in our calculation, somewhat less than that," Adam says.

"You initially said two minutes. Now we're talking 24 minutes," Pelley points out.

"I said a couple of minutes, but I understand from our analysis of the phone records that it took less than that," Adam says.

"There's a gap here, between two and 24. Can you help me narrow that gap a little bit?" Pelley asks.

"I didn't come prepared with that figure, Scott," Adam acknowledges.

[bear8819-2009]

Regarding the disabling or the fence controller alarm by "cutting the cable", sophisticated alarms constantly communicate with sensors, so cutting or shorting will trigger the alarm. They can only be defeated by monitoring the communication and building something to emulate it. Clearly not possible in this case, suggesting security is primitive.

[rgheard]

As these sort of armed robberies are common in South Africa I think that it is stretching the point to try and link the invasion of the perimeter fence with nuclear terrorism. The probable reason for heading for the Emergency Centre is that there are many computers there and the theft of large numbers of computers from Corporate organisations is very common.

[mrvolleyba11]

Any small town ''''Barney Fife'''' can have automatic access to a nuke plant under 10 CFR 73.
Posted by usnrcmoron

Bu11sh*t, NO local police have "AUTOMATIC" access to a nuclear plant or facility. They may have responsibilities in case of an incident or attack at or near the facility but blanket or automatic access is not given to ANYBODY!!! Cops/police do not even have "automatic" or "blanket" access to military installations and a nuclear facility has even more restriction.

[inketolstoy]

And handling the material, according to Bunn, isn%u2019t very dangerous. "Unfortunately not. Highly enriched uranium is only very weakly radioactive. You can handle it with your hands."

Until you die very slowly twenty years later from cancer caused by exposure from the uranium. Too many people in this country are learning science from movies like the incredible Hulk.

[usnrcmoron]

This could easily happen to a U.S. commercial nuclear power plant or other commercial plant such as the 2 which make heu navy fuel. The vulnerability which the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission fails to address is that the local police, who ultimately have responsibility and jurisdiction to neutralize and/or apprehend the intruders, are not subject to adequate background psychological, drug and alcohol checks. Any small town ''Barney Fife'' can have automatic access to a nuke plant under 10 CFR 73, the NRC nuclear security regulations. And for that matter, any domestic terrorist like McVeigh can join the local police force.
Sincerely,
NRC Moron

[sensiblejack]

maybe we should all pitch in and pay for a communications class for the South African government maybe something like "How to not look like a complete idiot when trying to deny the patently obvious"

Armed Burglars tring to steal laptops and copy machines, break into two teams and move to take out the command center after disabling sophisticated security systems.

riiiggghht

They would have been better off just saying no comment... as my mother used to say better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt?

[shakehill]

Anton Gerber is a hero who is being ostracized by his government. How sad. Why didn''t 60m ask him who he thought it was, what nationality, what dialect? He fought with 4 of them, he knows. Once again, not politically correct. SA''s arrogance appalls me.

[bear8819-2009]

Regarding the disabling or the fence controller alarm by "cutting the cable", sophisticated alarms constantly communicate with sensors, so cutting or shorting will trigger the alarm. They can only be defeated by monitoring the communication and building something to emulate it. Clearly not possible in this case, suggesting security is primitive.

[bear8819-2009]

Regarding the disabling or the fence controller alarm by "cutting the cable", sophisticated alarms constantly communicate with sensors, so cutting or shorting will trigger the alarm. They can only be defeated by monitoring the communication and building something to emulate it. Clearly not possible in this case, suggesting security is primitive.

[bear8819-2009]

Regarding the disabling or the fence controller alarm by "cutting the cable", sophisticated alarms constantly communicate with sensors, so cutting or shorting will trigger the alarm. They can only be defeated by monitoring the communication and building something to emulate it. Clearly not possible in this case, suggesting security is primitive.

[tsc307]

Hilarious and Disturbing

Scott Pelley spends the entire segment trying to prove that it would take sophisticated terrorists to pull off an invasion of a weapons-grade nuclear facility, while all the South Africans keep saying that any yokel could do it. Weren%u2019t rolls reversed?

It%u2019s very scary if well-funded and well-organized terrorists can come so close. It is fill-your-underpants, call-the-State-Department TERRIFYING if some hicks can drive by and say %u201Cbet there%u2019s something valuable behind that fence over yonder; let%u2019s rob it%u201D and almost succeed. The South Africans made the strongest case for why they shouldn%u2019t have highly enriched uranium.

[janetla]

This is not only extremely disturbing, but the South African Gov. seems to be trying to treat this as if it is "no big deal" we are counting on them to help protect the entire world from terrorists getting hold of this very dangerous uranium. They not only should be embarrassed, and ashamed, but should swallow their pride and allow the US to aid in protecting it. Oh, and one more thing, I completely believe there were those on the inside being paid off...otherwise it wouldn''t have even been attempted by only 4 people to get through the first security point...my guess is the person paid off for the second security check point decided against being a traitor and decided against endangering the entire world...good reporting 60 minutes and please...keep up the uncomfortable pressure on the South African Government.

[rwsmith29456]

Why should anyone listen to a reporter and a couple of eyewitnesses? It was just like the S. African officials said, "It depends on how you interpret this". Makes a lot of sense to me. Heh, heh, heh. What that really means is "We don''t have to tell anyone about this."

[mikesarcbs]

Why was it never a Headline in my newspaper?
How did "they know what they were doing"?
Why do S.A. officials react so passively?
Why do our officials react so little?
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Either, it was an attempt to test their security,
(I dontblivet),
or, it was a "friendly" nation that bungled the job.
Noticed nobody got killed? Trade Mark of Friendlies.
Did S.A. test an Atom bomb already?
I expect they upgraded security, even if we pay for it, like we did for Russia and elsewhere.

[mikezembill]

THE REPUBLICANS ARE AT IT AGAIN

[robaldrich]

clathrate wrote: ''Actually it sounds more like a Russian mob plot to steal the stuff and sell to the highest bidder, whoever that may be. They''''ve tried for years inside their own country, what''''s to prevent them from going international?''
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Hi again.

The answer to your question is Physics.

You operate from a false premise. While how to build a nuclear bomb is a relatively simple process, actually doing it is complex, exacting, and expensive. The reality is that an entity (countries) with the wherewithal to build an atomic bomb that will actually detonate can enrich its own uranium.

That is why the, alleged, Russian Mob plots are to steal an Atomic Bomb, NOT fissile material.

[btreib]

Give me a break, we''re supposed to believe no weapons grade material was taken? They went to all that trouble and then just walked away?

[wizardjuan]

Yeah..South Africa has always been truthful about what their military has been doing-NOT. I am less worried about S. Africa than what is our country doing about security at Nuclear Power Plants. The state I live in wants to import waste from around the world

[antizion]

"Sounds like an intelligence service wanted an untraceable source of nuclear material for a false flag terror attack and the plant operator was involved.
I would look at those that specialize in false flag attacks - Israel and the US. "--Posted by AntiZion



And since Israel and the US can both produce all the fissionable materials they want without accounting to anybody, why would they need to steal it from South Africa? Duh?

Sound more like desperate Muslims hoping to see those 72 virgin boys they''''re promised when they kill.

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Funny thing about an isotope, they are like a fingerprint and quite traceable. Hope that answers your stupid question/comment.

[cbswhiteout]

I grew up watching Walter Cronkite and 60 minuets with my dad. I believed it all.

Now I watch and wonder "what was the reason for that piece of propaganda?