COLUMBIA, S.C., Nov. 15, 2008

Communion For Obama Voters? Yes We Can!

Monsignor Repudiates Priest's Statement That Supporters Of Dem. May Not Take Communion Until Doing Penance

  • The Reverend Jay Scott Newman of St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville, S.C., said earlier this week that parishioners who voted for Barack Obama should perform penance for backing a candidate who supports Photo

    The Reverend Jay Scott Newman of St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville, S.C., said earlier this week that parishioners who voted for Barack Obama should perform penance for backing a candidate who supports "pro-abortion" policies. His diocese has repudiated his remarks.  (WSPA)

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(AP)  A Roman Catholic South Carolina priest should not have told parishioners who voted for President-elect Barack Obama to refrain from taking Holy Communion because of his stance in support of abortion, the church's senior officer in the state said Friday.

"This past week, the Catholic Church's clear, moral teaching on the evil of abortion has been pulled into the partisan political arena," Monsignor Martin T. Laughlin, administrator of the Diocese of Charleston, said Friday in a statement posted on the diocese's Web site. Recent comments by the Rev. Jay Scott Newman, Laughlin wrote, "diverted the focus from the Church's clear position against abortion."

Earlier this week, Newman said in a letter to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion without first doing penance for voting for the Democrat.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law."

However, Laughlin wrote that Newman's statements "do not adequately reflect the Catholic Church's teachings."

"Christ gives us freedom to explore our own conscience and to make our own decisions while adhering to the law of God and the teachings of the faith," Laughlin wrote. "Therefore, if a person has formed his or her conscience well, he or she should not be denied Communion, nor be told to go to confession before receiving Communion."

Newman told The Associated Press on Thursday his missive was not intended to be partisan.

"If the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same," he said.

Newman did not immediately return a message seeking comment on Friday.

[While Rev. Newman's original letter has been removed from the church's Web site, a Google cache version of it may be found here.]

Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.

Four years later, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly, telling Catholic politicians and voters the issue should be the most important in deciding which candidate to back. Some church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal souls by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.

In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.

According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County - traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas - went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.

By Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard
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by cdfoxtrot5 November 15, 2008 5:14 PM PST
"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil..." blah, blah, blah.

No one is "pro-abortion" and it''s interesting the way the extremists are beginning to use this term, instead of "pro-choice". McBush did the same thing during one of the debates.

In terms of the Catholic Church, shouldn''t it lose its tax-free status in the US if it involves itself in politics like this?

Shouldn''t the IRS investigate?




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by bobgee_1999 November 15, 2008 5:16 PM PST
Stupid as any other one-issue voter, including gun nuts, or whatever. You vote for the good of the country, not for yourself.

The amazing thing is, Christians have a wonderful example every day of the evils of faith: Muslims. But it doesn''t make them think; it doesn''t shame them into realizing that belief in some goofy antiquated idiocy is bad for you, bad for everyone.

Not to knock Muslims, particularly. They are no crazier than Christians, their beliefs are no more far-fetched. ALL religion is a pathetic product of willful ignorance and fear, and all religion is harmful.
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by hennighg November 15, 2008 5:20 PM PST
Zzzzzz. Catholics against something? Wonder what the stance is on child molestation. He who is without sin. . .
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by catlady1412 November 15, 2008 5:30 PM PST
Churches enjoy tax-exempt status in exchange for not engaging in political activity. Once they cross that line, the IRS can revoke that status. I think as churches get more and more involved in politics that sooner or later someone in Congress will call for the IRS to get involved, but we may have to start complaining to our representatives to do this. Government employees, particularly at the IRS, are not allowed to be politically active at work nor get involved in any political activity that results in undue attention unbecoming to a nonpartisan job. They would be happy to nail some churches on the tax-exempt issue.
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by fabrat1 November 15, 2008 5:36 PM PST
cdfoxtrot5 you''re such an idiot. What is it with you and taxes? Give it a rest for a while would ya.
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by barbaraf4 November 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST
If I were a representative of the Catholic Church, I would keep a low profile and not engage in any debates related to ***. I would be afraid someone might remember the serial child sexual abuse that has been enjoyed by the Priests for these many years and covered up by the same Church that is now taking up the anti-abortion cause.
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by sandy19731 November 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST
''According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama''

The Catholic Church better not push it too much, they''re going to be looking at a lot of empty pews.
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by mtminds November 15, 2008 6:01 PM PST
Again, more proof that fundamental Christians have taken over the Republican party to push their theological and moral beliefs upon the masses.
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by sandy19731 November 15, 2008 6:06 PM PST
Nobody is FOR abortion.
The National debate is whether it is legal under our constitution. Well, apparently it is. And, now it is established law. So, now those of you who are upset about it it need to find another strategy to make it rare. In fact we all need to work on that.
Since the Catholic Church is against birth control, they will always lose on this subject.
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by gotagrip November 15, 2008 6:07 PM PST
Boy, it sure is a good thing the anti-abortion Republicans outlawed abortion back when they controlled the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court!! What, they didn''t??!! Well, isn''t that the greater sin? Not stopping it when you (think you) know its wrong, have the power to do something and yet choose to do nothing? Hypocrites!!!!! Glad to see America gets it.
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by gce65 November 15, 2008 6:32 PM PST
Idiot! I knew I''d seen him somewhere before! It was on Seinfeld. "Helloooooooo, Newman!"
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by irmcvet97 November 15, 2008 6:37 PM PST
Churches enjoy tax-exempt status in exchange for not engaging in political activity. Once they cross that line, the IRS can revoke that status. I think as churches get more and more involved in politics that sooner or later someone in Congress will call for the IRS to get involved, but we may have to start complaining to our representatives to do this. Government employees, particularly at the IRS, are not allowed to be politically active at work nor get involved in any political activity that results in undue attention unbecoming to a nonpartisan job. They would be happy to nail some churches on the tax-exempt issue.

Posted by catlady1412 at 05:30 PM : Nov 15, 2008


You need to join American''s for the Separation of Church and State! They notify the IRS every time one of these crack pot Religious Groups gets into politics and YES they do get their Tax Exempt status revoked for doing that!!
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 6:39 PM PST
ALL religion is a pathetic product of willful ignorance and fear, and all religion is harmful.
Posted by bobgee_1999 at 05:16 PM : Nov 15, 2008



With this statement you expose ''your'' ignorance. This Christian has first hand knowledge of GOD and JESUS. You would throw out the baby with the bathwater. Don''t be a reactionary, do your own thinking and see the world for what it is.
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by roadracer9x November 15, 2008 6:45 PM PST
Our Founding Fathers were very astute. They had experienced the mess that is created when religion invades the political arena as was the case in England, France, and Spain. That is why they specifically called out the separation of church and state in the Constitution. Our fault as modern day Americans is that we do not have the courage to enforce it.
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 6:54 PM PST
Posted by roadracer9x at 06:45 PM : Nov 15, 2008


Well said... and true....
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by andor3 November 15, 2008 7:29 PM PST
good headline. laughing at these idiots in the funny clothes is the best way. they say the devil hates being ridiculed more than anything else.
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 8:09 PM PST
When asked this riddle, 80% of kindergarten kids got the answer, compared to 17% of StanfordUniversity seniors.


What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it, The rich need it, And if you eat it, you''ll die?



(Answer coming next)
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 8:11 PM PST
Answer to riddle (Nothing)
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by blackyowe November 15, 2008 10:05 PM PST
Well I was told by a Baptist friend I was going to Hell for voting for Obama and yet another friend told me that he no longer wanted my friendship and said he wanted to avoid my Satanic presense. We are living in one upside down and backwards world. I am a Christian and think Obama is a far better example to other how to live than McCain or Palin.
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by adeshpande November 15, 2008 10:53 PM PST
Follow Obama on Line Spout. http://www.linespout.com?q=obama
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by dbstevens November 15, 2008 11:02 PM PST
It''s bad enough that people in everyday life harbor such ignorance and stupidity, but people like Newman need to be kicked out of positions of leadership. He''s promoting the exact opposite of God''s teachings. What idiots he and others like him are. They hold the world back from progressing. Shame on him.
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 11:15 PM PST
Well I was told by a Baptist friend I was going to Hell for voting for Obama and yet another friend told me that he no longer wanted my friendship and said he wanted to avoid my Satanic presense. We are living in one upside down and backwards world. I am a Christian and think Obama is a far better example to other how to live than McCain or Palin.
Posted by blackyowe at 10:05 PM : Nov 15, 2008



This white baptist from podunc NC would call you brother/sister anytime. We can disagree without hate or acrimony.
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by toolmangler-2009 November 15, 2008 11:16 PM PST
I voted Obama also.
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by messiahx4eve November 15, 2008 11:32 PM PST
The priest looks like cross between Machine from that Nicolas Cage movie 16MM & a cabbage patch doll. Must have been ducking under the sheets too much as a closet priest. Nothing like a good dose of daily cattle-inspired organized religion to get your blood pumping.
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by messiahx4eve November 15, 2008 11:37 PM PST
So sorry, it was a movie called 8MM not 16MM my bad....
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by ziadora November 16, 2008 1:34 AM PST
Ever heard of the separation of church and state. I''m so tired of the religious control freaks. I think Reverend Newman should stick his head in the toilet and flush.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:12 AM PST
Laughlin is wrong. Newman is right. One MUST go to confession if one has a mortal sin on his or her soul,before receiving the body and blood,soul and divinity of Christ. Laughlin has failed in his pastoral duties.Laity means "people of the church". I would be damned if I did not defend the faith.God,the Pope,the Church,faithful Laity,all say abortion is murder. If you support it,you are complicit. Priests who don''t defend the faith are likewise complicit. I am in support of Fr.Newman.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:16 AM PST
Abortion is not politics. It is Murder.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:21 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:22 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by robertlaity November 16, 2008 2:22 AM PST
Anyone who supports abortion is "for it". Abortion is an "Intrinsic evil"-Pope J-PII.Anyone who aids in the commission of a crime is an accomplice. Same with sin.,the Law.Catholic who support abortion aren''t Catholic. Catholics in name only.
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by ksh1022 November 16, 2008 3:50 AM PST
People who post the same comment over and over are people in need of psychiatric help.
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by ksh1022 November 16, 2008 3:53 AM PST
It''s interesting to me that the catholic church feels so superior and correct about their moral stance regarding abortion. And yet the church supported and condoned sexual molestation of children for decades. So who''s the sinner?
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by ziadora November 16, 2008 4:30 AM PST
I may be Catholic; I may have voted for Obama; I may believe in pro-choice. If such were true, believe me, no small man wearing a preacher collar is going to dictate terms to me regarding my religious acts. Stand aside, Father Newman, what I do and believe is between me and God.

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by airboatboy1 November 16, 2008 4:56 AM PST
That holy man better lose a few pounds. Looks like that collar might be chokin'' him.
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by deafgolf7 November 16, 2008 5:46 AM PST
YOU need read "Alberto Rivera" it was very important, He was Ex Jesuit priest. I was read most catholic are white and black lie to world people''s member catholic was not know priest and Nun''s action sexual and did abortion. most priest and Nun not show by admit. you need read Alberto Rivera book. most catholic bishop and priest fool at people.

I m not stupid. why why Catholic try look for good work and make pay attention of our church power. but white like. and Catholic priest and bishop are wolf to people''s soul.


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by deafgolf7 November 16, 2008 5:52 AM PST
Do you remember about Dark ago time. most christian and heretic was suffer, put fire and dead from Catholic did murder and kill who family dead is not catholic. In was dark ago time. and some still day are hide to people not know what day.

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by lmartink November 16, 2008 1:41 PM PST
"....they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion without first doing penance for voting for the Democrat."

What about all the dummies who put their souls at risk while voting for George Bush who was killing thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq?
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by deafgolf7 November 16, 2008 1:44 PM PST
YOU need read "Alberto Rivera" it was very important, He was Ex Jesuit priest. I was read most catholic are white and black lie to world people''''s member catholic was not know priest and Nun''''s action sexual and did abortion. most priest and Nun not show by admit. you need read Alberto Rivera book. most catholic bishop and priest fool at people.

I m not stupid. why why Catholic try look for good work and make pay attention of our church power. but white like. and Catholic priest and bishop are wolf to people''''s soul.
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by deafgolf7 November 16, 2008 1:46 PM PST
Do you remember about Dark ago time. most christian and heretic was suffer, put fire and dead from Catholic did murder and kill who family dead is not catholic. In was dark ago time. and some still day are hide to people not know what day.
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