Prop. 8 Anger Spurs Donor Blacklists

CBS Evening News: Online Donor Lists Prompt Boycotts Of Same-Sex Marriage Ban Supporters

(CBS)  For supporters of same-sex marriage, the Election Day loss in California seems to be energizing their campaign rather than ending it.

Demonstrations against Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage, have been growing, CBS News correspondent John Blackstone reports.

Now the anger is moving to the Internet, where supporters of same-sex marriage are posting blacklists - the names and businesses of those who gave money to help Proposition 8 pass.

Chris Lee, an engineer who is an immigrant from China, was shocked to see his name on the Web site AntiGayBlacklist.com after he gave $1,000 to the campaign to end same-sex marriage.

"I was completely disgusted," Li said. "This sort of blacklist should only appear in communist countries, should not be found in the United States."

In Los Angeles, demonstrators called for a boycott of a restaurant whose manager made a personal donation of $100 to the "Yes on 8" campaign.

"She didn't think it would be public record," said Jeff Yarbrough.

Anger over the blacklists brought out demonstrators in Sacramento, where Scott Eckern resigned as musical director of a local theater when he was identified as a donor.

While it isn't clear who is behind the blacklisting Web sites, political donations are public record and publishing them is legal. But this campaign is making even many supporters of same-sex marriage uncomfortable.

"I understand the anger, but I think we need to channel it," said Molly McKay of Marriage Equality USA. "Into conversations, into moving forward because, you know again, hate vs. hate produces more hate."

Those campaigning to end same-sex marriage drew up their own blacklist, sending letters to large donors to the campaign to save same-sex marriage, demanding equal money or threatening to publish their names.

The Internet has made open political financing even more open - and perhaps more intimidating.

[forever1973]

Deny two (2) people the ability to join in a CIVIL, not-necessarily-religious (your church doesn''t have to let them join), partnership?

How IN-SECURE can people be?

[swamig1]

Let the protestors hear this loud and clear. Californians spoke once about marriage and the unscrupulous judges went against the will of the people and overturned it. Millions of dollars were spent to put this again on the ballot. Californians have spoken again. Don''t you get it? CALIFORNIANS HAVE SPOKEN. HELLO? Why don''t you accept the verdict and get back to your lifestyle and leave all of us alone. if you continue with this, then the country should start protesting about the election of Obama and ask the courts to overturn it. How about that? Fact is Obama and McCain were on the ballot. People chose Obama and the country has accepted it.It''s time the *** accepted it. They are intimidating businesses and threatening to boycott businesses. Just for that businesses should get together and sue the *** and hello? The vast majority should ignore these crazy *** and go all out to support the proponents of Prop 8. I would call upon the government and the police to intervee and stop this nonsense from getting worse.Enough is enough.

[krescera]

Why don''t the *** hold Obama responsible for the passing of the proposition?If he had simply uttered a word of support for the ***,they would not have been in this mess.

[honestabe8]

RevSpitz: Ooooh, quoting from A BOOK. It sure doesn''t get any more impressive than that, let me tell you...

Congrats on that logic thing

[honestabe8]

obamasnutz: likely for the same reason heterosexuals do.

[maverickgrn]

This list is available! I have already copied it for repeated circulation on the internet. Very easy! Just go to anti-gay blacklist on Google. Cut, paste, circulate!

[maverickgrn]

Where can I get a copy of the list. Fair is fair. Supporters have a list too. The right to look at public records, the right to free speech, and the right not to support those who oppose the rights of others are all protected by our laws and constitution. If you don''t like it, go back to China. We believe in civil rights here.

[gasser09]

I''m confused, I keep hearing that because people don''t condone same s e x marriage that constitutes hatred. Why is that? I don''t hate anyone, but I don''t believe in same s e x marriage. Why would I be classified as such? G a y people I work with, that have gone to church with me, gone to lunch with me, don''t think I hate them or anyone else. Why would I be classified as a hater or bigot? Where does "Hate" enter in and why?

I don''t agree with people who commit adultery, I don''t hate them, or fornicators, murders, drug dealers, etc. Because I don''t agree with what they do means I hate them or that I%u2019m a bigot? I don''t understand, please enlighten me.

Another thing I find confusing; where in the Constitution is the "separation of church and state"?

Just trying to figure this out!

[rixmix98]

Posted by RevSpitz at 03:24 PM : Nov 15, 2008

RevSpitz. The following scripture is also from the book of Leviticus. Do you and your followers live it? I think not. Is it because you pick and what you want to? I thought so.

Priests must not shave their heads or shave off the edges of their beards or cut their bodies.

They must be holy to their God and must not profane the name of their God. Because they present the offerings made to the LORD by fire, the food of their God, they are to be holy.

When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest.

Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God

Keep my decrees. ''Do not mate different kinds of animals. ''Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. ''Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

When you enter the land and plant any kind of fruit tree, regard its fruit as forbidden. For three years you are to consider it forbidden it must not be eaten.

In the fourth year all its fruit will be holy, an offering of praise to the LORD.

But in the fifth year you may eat its fruit. In this way your harvest will be increased. I am the LORD your God.

Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

[meinnv]

I am sorry but I meant to state:

If the voters who supported Prop 8 (banning same s e x marriages) are denied their voice, that ends all democracy this country had and we are now communists. Welcome to the Communist state of America.

I apologize if my post seemed a little contradictory.

[meinnv]

The entire premise of the democracy is to have "the people" voice their choices, give them the right to have a say how their government is run and who runs it.

It is not the best form of government, but the others are so much worse; otherwise people would not be coming here to America. Obviously we as a country have done something right, it would be a shame after almost 200 years to throw out all that out the window because a "few" are displeased with an outcome.

[meinnv]

This should be respected. we cannot heed or fail to heed the determinations of the democratic process simply because we are disappointed.

These issues will be considered again, this is certain. If you want the outcome to respected when you win, respect it now in defeat.


Posted by twixcon at 03:08 AM : Nov 16, 2008

I whole heartedly agree with you. That is what angers me. You can not expect to put an issue to the people without a 50-50 chance of defeat and be angered when the outcome of your proposal is met with defeat.

If you choose to overturn and rule against what the people have voted either for or against, then you are asking to revert to a form of government that silences the people, perhaps permanently.

[twixcon]

posted by MattR72 : "What is really AWFUL is that the money spent by these donors to take away the rights of others ...."
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I''m not disputing your point but could you explain what "rights" have been taken away? hey can only have been taken away if they existed before. Could you also explain how these beacame "rights".

If it''s about marriage all people have exactly te same "right", and that is the right to marry someone of the opposite ***. Nobody that I know of has the "right" marry someone of the same ***. So it would seem to me that all of our "rights" are currently identical. Please explain.

[twixcon]

I think that for many the issue of allowing same-*** marriages boils down to a feeling that allowing such unions would appear to condone the gay lifestyle. The history of voting on this issue would seem to indicate tat most Americans do not wish to condone or accept that lifestyle, for better or worse.

There is a fear perhaps that if same-*** marriages were to be approved we would next see a move to portray such relationships as "normal" and "acceptable", and well they may be. The problem is most Americans don''t see it that way, nor do they want it portrayed as such to their children whether through the media or in the schools.

It appears that the gay community is intent on forcing it''s acceptance on those who don''t wish to accept it. The trouble is people have the right to reject that which to them appears abhorent. it is not a question of morality, it is a question of whether people have the right to deny approval to that of which they do not approve.

There is no "right to be accepted", this is a sad fact of life. The Prop 8 outcome clearly disappointed many people, but evidently it suited a greater number of people. This should be respected. we cannot heed or fail to heed the determinations of the democratic process simply because we are disappointed.

These issues will be considered again, this is certain. If you want the outcome to respected when you win, respect it now in defeat.

[meinnv]

Sorry about the double post there.

[meinnv]

What this sounds like is spoiled children who are not getting their way and are going to throw a tantrum.

Hey, a lot of things/people I supported lost, oh well, there were more people who voted against me than with me.

I grew up, put on my big girl pants and DEALT WITH IT.

If you don''t like democracy, s--t me another and better form of government.

[meinnv]

What this sounds like is spoiled children who are not getting their way and are going to throw a tantrum.

Hey, a lot of things/people I supported lost, oh well, there were more people who voted against me than with me.

I grew up, put on my big girl pants and DEALT WITH IT.

If you don''t like democracy, s--t me another and better form of government.

[meinnv]

First of all, whether or not you support proposition 8; this singular fact remains:

IN VOTING--MAJORITY RULES. Always has and always will or it should. If not, then what is the purpose of voting?? Why even have elections??

Everyone was asked, told or implored to vote their conscious (sic). Go out and vote, it''s your civil responsibility. Your vote is your voice. All this good propaganda.

And, now that the majority has spoken, all of a sudden that is unacceptable. All of a sudden things need to be reversed. This wasn''t right, this was not fair, the voters are hateful.

I bet the McCain supporters would like to have a re-election too. He didn''t get in, it wasn''t right, he was discriminated against because he was old, let''s throw out the votes and just put him in.

Stupid, now isn''t it??

If the voters are denied their voice in Prop 8, and it is passed anyway, that ends all democracy this country had and we are now communists. Welcome to the Communist state of America.

[jankebenz]

Personally I am sick of even the word Gay. It''''s not gay its perversion. Its being pushed down our throats. Posted by Arch500 at 10:49 PM : Nov 15, 2008

Yes i am also sickened by this lot. The perverts have even managed to pervert the english language.
Who''s idea was it anyway to change the meaning of the word for happy to Queers? Undoubtedly they wanted a more user friendly word to mask the truth of their diabolical activities. So they have a blacklist, the normal people can use it to patronize the businesses that supported prop 8 and steer clear of the queer. That way their retaliatory action will backfire on these pushy perverts who won''t accept democracy.

[rodney19791]

so Voltaire777
let me get this straight you see nothing wrong with a father marring his adult son????
Who''''''''s the sick pig... sleep well loser

Posted by rodney19791 at 07:07 PM : Nov 15, 2008

Again, you are confused. The incest analogy applies equally to straights as it does to gay people. Simply because we allow straight people to marry does not mean we must allow man to marry his adult daughter. Your logic is faulty, fallacious and invalid. So sorry, you''''ll need to get a brain to play this game.


Sorry 777
But incest laws were enacted to protect the blood line. As there is no bloodline problem between a father and son. According to you it should be ok to marry. Again after you get out of high school go out into the real world and get an education. Take a trip to Iran I hear they love people like you.