Prop. 8 Anger Spurs Donor Blacklists
CBS Evening News: Online Donor Lists Prompt Boycotts Of Same-Sex Marriage Ban Supporters
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Demonstrations against Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage, have been growing, CBS News correspondent John Blackstone reports.
Now the anger is moving to the Internet, where supporters of same-sex marriage are posting blacklists - the names and businesses of those who gave money to help Proposition 8 pass.
Chris Lee, an engineer who is an immigrant from China, was shocked to see his name on the Web site AntiGayBlacklist.com after he gave $1,000 to the campaign to end same-sex marriage.
"I was completely disgusted," Li said. "This sort of blacklist should only appear in communist countries, should not be found in the United States."
In Los Angeles, demonstrators called for a boycott of a restaurant whose manager made a personal donation of $100 to the "Yes on 8" campaign.
"She didn't think it would be public record," said Jeff Yarbrough.
Anger over the blacklists brought out demonstrators in Sacramento, where Scott Eckern resigned as musical director of a local theater when he was identified as a donor.
While it isn't clear who is behind the blacklisting Web sites, political donations are public record and publishing them is legal. But this campaign is making even many supporters of same-sex marriage uncomfortable.
"I understand the anger, but I think we need to channel it," said Molly McKay of Marriage Equality USA. "Into conversations, into moving forward because, you know again, hate vs. hate produces more hate."
Those campaigning to end same-sex marriage drew up their own blacklist, sending letters to large donors to the campaign to save same-sex marriage, demanding equal money or threatening to publish their names.
The Internet has made open political financing even more open - and perhaps more intimidating.
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See all 1030 CommentsSounds like blacklists are a good way to go, it worked for the anti-gay people, what''s fair for them is fair for everybody.
See how much faster the gay businesses fail when we don''t support them.
They would run you down in the street because you disagree with them. Funny you don''t see hetrosexual''s rioting or blacklisting anyone in Con or Mass. becuase the law isn''t in their favor.
Those who are in the majority want to create a minority with fewer civil liberties than they have. it is disgusting, but America has done it over and over again
Chinese
Blacks
Catholics
Hispanics
Italians
Jews
Germans
Irish
All were treated as second class citizens by the majority- they were denied everything from basic freedoms to the right to own property. Whites and hispanics were killed for getting married in the 1800''s. Blacks and whites were killed for marriage in the last century. Bigotry, fear, ignorance, and hate abound.
Yet today we again have people who, based on their "religion", will do away with the life , liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others who are "different" in their eyes.
Shame on my country. Shame on those who mistakenly consider themselves "Christian". For they are neither true to Christian ideas or good Americans. They are the worst of humanity- the fearful and the bigoted.
"Separate but equal" is the shame of America.
I%u2019m gay and against prop.8, but for the life of me can%u2019t figure how antagonizing the adversary will bring about the desired results? Boycott specific businesses, YES, but reckless, forceful acceptance of an agenda won%u2019t work.
The world if rife with examples of forced acceptance that doesn%u2019t work.
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Posted by stick1772
How is the law not in favor of heterosexuals in Mass. or Conn.? Last time I checked, *** weren''t preventing others from getting married there.
This is not a zero sum game. The right of *** to marry does not infringe on the ability of others to marry as well. Your viewpoint is not based on any form of logic.
If people don''t like being on a blacklist because they donated money then they should petition their congressional representative to permit anonymous donations of political money, or better yet, just don''t donate.
The conservatives have been screaming about Obama fun raising, claiming that some of the donations to his campaign were anonymous. Now they are screaming because the donations to yes-on-8 were NOT anonymous. So in other words, from a conservative POV, anonymous donations are good when it''s to me, bad when it''s to my opponent. That''s the language of a fascist.
NONE of these political campaigns NEED donations, think of all the good that would have been done if all the donations to both political parties during the election had instead gone to charities.
If people want to put their money where their mouth is, do it in the light of day, not sneaking around behind people''s backs. Anonymous donations of money to politics were NOT what the Founding Fathers fought and died for. Remember Taxation without Representation. How do you represent anonymous people?
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Mr. Li apparently doesn''t understand our constitution and I would suggest that if he doesn''t appreciate freedom from oppression for everyone, then he toodle on back to China.
Anyone that wants to can boycott a place of business, or say anything they want about others as long as it is not liabelous. Your speech is protected FROM the GOVERNMENT, not other people''s opinions or distain. Get over it Mr. Li.
How...liberal.
-- Posted by kansas1946
That actually isn''t so.
Proof of conspiracy to destroy others by coercion, economic destruction and blackmail can result in both civil and criminal penalties.
Of course, that would just put those standing up for their rights on another blacklist.
Pathetic.
Economic terrorism.
Blacklists.
Personal destruction.
Terrorizing churchgoers.
Suing those with whom you do not agree.
Yep. Just another oppressed minority, pursuing peace and harmony with their intolerant neighbors.
Celebrate my preferences.
Endorse my lifestyle.
Or else.
What a way to come to an agreement and work together! Perhaps we should try tribal feuding like in Pakistan. That seems to work!
Celebrate my preferences.
Endorse my lifestyle.
Or else.
Endorse my choice de jour.
Celebrate my diversity.
Or else.
What a way to come to an agreement and work together! Perhaps we should try tribal feuding like in Pakistan. That seems to work!
Endorse my choice de jour.
Celebrate my diversity.
Or else.
LOL
The ghost of Joe McCarthy rises and shrieks with delight.
Congratulations, my friend.
You have become your own enemy.
Posted by miriambk at 08:46 PM : Nov 13, 2008
That elderly lady should be charged with inciting a riot. We have a law in California that says if you go up to a group of people with the intention of antaginizing them you are responsible for what ever happens. She should be arrested under California law.
No matter the color of their skin, their religious beliefs, their political beliefs, the piercings in their bodies, or their sexual orientation, your fellow man is not your enemy. You have been collectivized and turned against each other by a government and media that wants to control you. Keeping *** from getting married is not going to make your life better. The exultation you feel from having won is fleeting. If you directed all of this energy towards creating a better, less oppressive government, your life would be better.
Be free and let others do the same.
http://ewebsmith.com/gov/republicanism.html
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Posted by staycalm
Don''t do that.
It''s what they want.
Just ignore them.
Joe McCarthy advocated that the government hold hearings against people who supposedly demonstrated sicialistic behavior (like smoking marijuana). Those who supported gay marriage in California are simply posting the names of those who donated to efforts against gay marriage so that they know which businesses to botcott. I don''t see a problem with that. If you aren''t big enough to accept the consequences for your beliefs or actions like donating to defeat gay marriage, you shouldn''t donate.
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Posted by cbscrash072 at 08:50 PM : Nov 13, 2008
what you really mean is that she opposed you so she should just be crushed for the better of your cause.
This shows their agenda BIG TIME
This shows their agenda BIG TIME
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Posted by Strangeworld at 08:56 PM : Nov 13, 2008
Well under your mob like tactics the law abiding people are fearfull for their lives and wellfare. You''re just trying to fear people into not coming out to vote against your sick lifestyle or donate to their cause.
We see what your about and you will never win.
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Posted by cbscrash072 at 08:50 PM : Nov 13, 2008
yeah and if that lady were a gay or lesbian approching a "yes on 8" protest or group and would have been shoved down the crowd would have been arrested for a felony hate crime, but it''s ok for the other side to do it.
And can someone answer the question: How does the right for *** and lesbians to marry damage existing and future heterosexual marriages? It seems to me that there are mean-spirited people, especially those calling themselves "Christians", who can''t stand it when love flourishes between same-*** couples. If God is love as the Scriptures say, how can love (not ***) between two people be ungodly as the Pharisees would rant?
There are too many cultural fascists out there. And for those Christians who cannot leave gay and lesbian couples alone....why not take the "timber" out of your own eye before you point out the splinter in your neighbor''s eye...you might see much more clearly!!!
If you don''t like gay marriage, then don''t go to gay weddings!
I''m not gay, nor do I live in California, but do believe that all Americans should be treated the same under the protection of the Constitution. If hetrosexuals benefit by being married, then it''s only fair that the same consideration be extended to the gay community. These anti-gay crusades/propositions are nothing more than spending taxpayer money to further religious beliefs. I''m a Christian, but would like to see that church and state remain separate...holding political votes to decide church doctrine should not even be considered as something to include on a ballot in the United States.
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