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Some Racist Remarks In Europe Over Obama

Washington Post: Some Public Figures Display Open Scorn, While Others Make Unintentional Racial Blunders

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Europe erupted in cheers to celebrate Barack Obama's election as president, but the continent is seeing its share of insensitive racial blunders, too.

Over the past week, a number of European lawmakers and journalists have made foot-in-mouth comments regarding America's black president-elect, suggesting that some otherwise respected public figures in Europe are far from enlightened on racial matters.

The day after Obama's victory, a leading Austrian television journalist said on camera that he "wouldn't want the Western world to be directed by a black man." A Polish lawmaker stood up in Parliament and called the election result "the end of the white man's civilization."

One of the milder gaffes came from Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. On Thursday, during a visit to Moscow, he praised Obama for being "young, handsome and even suntanned."

Berlusconi's remark caused a stir in Italy, as critics chided him for sounding like a fool. But the prime minister was unrepentant. "What's the problem? It was a compliment," he told journalists the next day. Anyone who did not get the joke, he added, was an "imbecile."

Some racist comments have come from people who have expressed such views before. "Africa Conquers the White House," read a headline on the Web site of the National Democratic Party of Germany, a political party that sympathizes with neo-Nazi groups. In an accompanying article, Jürgen Gansel, a party leader and an elected lawmaker in the German state of Saxony, blamed Obama's victory on "the American alliance of Jews and Negroes."

Offensive opinions have also originated from the other end of the political spectrum. Die Tageszeitung, a Berlin newspaper that supports socialist and leftist causes, predicted Obama's election in June when it published a large front-page photo of the White House under the headline, "Uncle Barack's Cabin."

The reference was to "Uncle Tom's Cabin," an anti-slavery book written by 19th-century author Harriet Beecher Stowe. But editors of the paper insisted they did not mean to imply that Obama would be an Uncle Tom, or a submissive slave. Rainer Metzger, a deputy editor, said the headline was satirical.

"I'm sure 99 percent of our readers would understand it correctly," he told the German magazine Der Spiegel. "As for the rest, well, tough luck. You can't please everybody."

Yonis Ayeh, a board member with the Initiative of Black People in Germany, a group that criticized the Die Tageszeitung article when it was published, said racial prejudices are common, if not always blatantly expressed.

"Sometimes you have people or groups who say, 'We are the left wing, we are the good ones, we are not racist,' " he said. "But it doesn't matter if you are right wing or left wing. It's not just the neo-Nazis and the skinheads."

In Austria, Obama's win prompted a harsh, on-air reaction from a well-known journalist, Klaus Emmerich. "I think the Americans are still racists and they must be very badly off to so spectacularly -- and that has to be said, no doubt -- send a black man with a black, very good-looking and clever woman to the White House," he said Wednesday during a show on public television network ORF.

After saying that he "wouldn't want the Western world to be directed by a black man," he added: "If you say that is a racist comment, you're right. Without a doubt."

Emmerich, 80, was once based in Washington and has also reported for German television and newspapers over a long career. Given a chance to retract his remarks, he declined. In a later interview with the Austrian newspaper Der Standard, he said that "blacks are not as politically civilized." He also called Obama dangerous and implicitly compared him to Hitler, citing his "rhetorical brilliance" and his ability to "appeal charismatically to people."

Emmerich did not return a phone call seeking comment. Rainer Scheuer, a spokesman for ORF, said that the comments were "not acceptable" and that Emmerich was unlikely to be invited back to appear on the network anytime soon.

In Poland, the lower house of Parliament heard a similar interpretation of Obama's election from Artur Górski, a legislator from the Law and Justice party.

In a speech Wednesday, Górski called Obama "the black messiah of the new Left" and a "crypto-communist" who would undoubtedly prove a "disaster." He added: "Al-Qaeda is rubbing their hands with glee that the new president wants peace, not war."

"This marks the end of the white man's civilization," he said. "America will soon pay a high price for this quirk of democracy."

The Polish government and Górski's party later apologized for the outburst. Górski did, too, but said his remarks were not racist, just "political."

By Craig Whitlock
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by oleander8 November 11, 2008 3:01 PM PST
How can one comment on such ignorance in high places???
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by jxknowles November 11, 2008 3:02 PM PST
Why should Europe be any different than the United States? Reading moronic and racist comments on on-line newspapers in this country (the Kansas City Star is particularly offensive), you''d see we still have a long way to go. I''m optimistic things will get better, but no sense singling out Europe when we have our own garbage to haul.
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by daniel1004 November 11, 2008 3:08 PM PST
Herr Schweinehund Emmerich kann meinen Arsch kuessen!
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by spinproof November 11, 2008 3:22 PM PST
Racist remarks and racist behavior have consequences and many who make them ultimately end up regretting them, one way or the other some undesired price is paid. Being a racist can end up being very expensive in ways one never imagined.


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by kcvab November 11, 2008 3:22 PM PST
F*** all racist europeans!!
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by daniel1004 November 11, 2008 3:24 PM PST
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Posted by Obama_Dkhed at 03:12 PM

Kuess mich, Liebchen! Niemals sollst Du Freunde finden, und deine Freude moege vergehen!
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by mandylou4u November 11, 2008 3:39 PM PST
I guess everyone has forgotten that Obama''s mother is WHITE.? He is not all black. I guess it''s convenient to say he is all black because he is darker skinned. Racism is retarded and folks still holding on to that need to look at themselves and find out why they are so scared to take a step forward. We are all people in this world, all with the same opportunities, no matter what color we are.
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by khalif-obama November 11, 2008 3:41 PM PST
I guess it was not the entire world that jumped for joy, huh. No matter, change is coming and it will be sweeping. Equal rights not only for blacks but also for the oppressed Muslims worldwide...
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by khalif-obama November 11, 2008 3:43 PM PST
Obama is not black. Legally, he is a Mulatto, a word that hails from the Latin mulla, or mule. It refers to the hybrid offspring of white and black parents.
Just one more racist term in the American lexicon that needs to be reviewed in the new order.
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by likeitis5050 November 11, 2008 3:45 PM PST
Nothing will bring people together quicker in this country than having people on the outside, and no doubt seriously inferior to us in just about every area, talk smack about our country and our leaders. We can have our smack sessions, but anyone else trying to get in lic.ks will be on the short end of a smack down for trying. What nerve...coming from countries still trying to live down the holocaust or barely used to indoor plumbing in 2008!!!
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by mandylou4u November 11, 2008 3:48 PM PST
Mccain didn''t win the election because people are tired of fighting all the time. It seemed that is all Mccain wanted to do was fight. Obama seemed like he wanted to stop the fighting and bring some peace to our part of the world. Lets hope his actions are as loud as his words.
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by mandylou4u November 11, 2008 3:50 PM PST
I think most just recently figured out what a tooth brush was, hehe. Just a crack back
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by frankfurt200 November 11, 2008 4:00 PM PST
What nerve...coming from countries still trying to live down the holocaust or barely used to indoor plumbing in 2008!!!

Posted by likeitis5050 at 03:45 PM

Well said. Emmerich is just an 80 year old left over nazi piece of slime. The Osterreich Rundfunk needs to fire his rear end, but they have refused to. I have always said that Germany shouldn''t have been the only one to pay for the Holocaust. Austria got off scott free despite their tacit approval of Hitler.
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by imcolts November 11, 2008 4:04 PM PST
obama represents change and hopefully equality...it doesnt matter that he is black...not just america but all whites that are racist, arent smart enough to have a real reason to be racist, except thats what there racist parents taught them. hate is associated with the devil. if you are racist you are a hater. you are destined for hell. another thing racist are even more mad because they have to see blacks happy and celebrating and that alone fuels hate. dont get me wrong there are blacks that are racist too, and they going to hell also. but to sum it up racist people took a knife to the heart when obama won. its personal for racist to keep hating and all blacks and other minorities want is peace and equality, plus of course programs to help minorities in all areas. sorry for the long comment but racist are like ***, every now and then another one comes out the closet and shows their true colors..lol......
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by antoniof123 November 11, 2008 4:05 PM PST
I am sure that the President Elect being from a white mother and black father has heard it all and even more.

So who cares what other say it is only what you feel about yourself.

Good luck Mr. President Elect!
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by dagrandma November 11, 2008 4:07 PM PST
likeitis5050: "Nothing will bring people together quicker in this country than having people on the outside, and no doubt seriously inferior to us in just about every area, talk smack about our country and our leaders. We can have our smack sessions, but anyone else trying to get in lic.ks will be on the short end of a smack down for trying. What nerve...coming from countries still trying to live down the holocaust or barely used to indoor plumbing in 2008!!!"

One of the great things about having Obama elected is that I think it''s a step towards divesting ourselves of this "we''re better than you" cowboy attitude -- but apparently you don''t feel the same way. Why do you think these people are inferior to us? Better still, why do you think you''re superior to them? As for the holocaust, if you don''t think the same thing could happen in this country, you''re a fool. Under the right circumstances it can happen anywhere at any time.
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by hangelle November 11, 2008 4:18 PM PST
Nothing worse that what I''m hearing at my office from down the hall!
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by pvperson November 11, 2008 4:21 PM PST
Gee, Germans, Austrians and Polish meatheads are making racist remarks, wow what a surprise. The countries that brought us Nazis, neo-Nazis and skinheads.
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by sincity_q November 11, 2008 4:21 PM PST
Europeans don''t have the racial hangups we have here in America. They can even make jokes about it without really insulting anybody... or causing riots.

We could take a few lessons.
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by dburfears November 11, 2008 4:26 PM PST
These "Enlightened" Europeans have shown again why it is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA that is the leader for liberty and democracy in the world.

Their pitiful "democracies" cannot envision the election of a man or woman who comes from an ethnic minority in their own countries. For most Europeans are stuck in their racial and class structures, unable to understand or appreciate what the meritocracy of America really means.
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by dburfears November 11, 2008 4:30 PM PST
Europeans don''''t have the racial hangups we have here in America.

Posted by sincity_q at 04:21 PM : Nov 11, 2008
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So where are the examples of heads of state in Europe who come from their racial minorities?

RIGHT. There aren''t any. Even the French have been forced to admit, after Obama was elected, that they have a HUGE problem with discrimination against their minorities in politics.
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by kphx November 11, 2008 4:38 PM PST
Well we proved once again that our good old USA is still the beacon of light for every *** foolish European country out there.

We have to pat ourseleves on the back.
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by velma179 November 11, 2008 4:49 PM PST
"Nothing worse that what I''''m hearing at my office from down the hall!"
Posted by hangelle

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Racism, hatred, political division and religious intolerance of the "Daddy loves me more than you" school of fundamental belief -- these things exist worldwide.
An intolerant white German is just as noxious as a black African leader with genocide as his governing tool.
An ayatollah in Iran playing on the disillusionment and desperation of poverty stricken youth in order to turn them to terrorism is no different than an American preacher that riles his congregation up with political tinged rhetoric designed to fuel their hatred of anyone different than him or by association, them.

You can''t say "I''m a [fill in the blank]" and automatically be [choose -- good, right, holy, honorable...].
It will always be the heart that bears judgment. Wisdom takes a deeper look and hopes against presumption; asks and keeps on asking.




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by morganye November 11, 2008 4:50 PM PST
You guys are just hearing what is said on the TV. Just come and see how they are treating blacks in Austria.Their police harrase them any how, and when ever they want. Their right are being denial in front of their face.Austrian police call them ******* on their face, you guys never see anything.I thank god for USA, they will lead and continue to lead for a better world. If you give europe chance there will be a second holocust, this time on blacks.
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by cdfoxtrot5 November 11, 2008 4:51 PM PST
These "Enlightened" Europeans have shown again why it is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA that is the leader for liberty and democracy in the world.

Their pitiful "democracies" cannot envision the election of a man or woman who comes from an ethnic minority in their own countries. For most Europeans are stuck in their racial and class structures, unable to understand or appreciate what the meritocracy of America really means.

Posted by dburfears

Don''t be so ignorant as to judge Europeans by the actions of noisy right-wing minorities. In the same way that Americans shouldn''t all be judged by the excesses of some of its soldiers in the illegal war, nor by the idiotic comments from Sarah Palin, don''t be so fast to judge Europe by the handful of right wingers mentioned in the story.

And as for them being "democracies", you don''t have to be a multi-millionaire to run for office in any of those countries - unlike the "democracy" that is the US. Also, in order to hold powerful positions like the equivalent of Secretary of State, you have be to ELECTED - not some crony appointee that gets foisted on the public.

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by morganye November 11, 2008 4:58 PM PST
Come to Austria and see for your self how their police are treating blacks.They police themself will call them ******* and ask them if hear it clear.
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by straybill November 11, 2008 5:01 PM PST
Enough with the xenophobia! Ignorance knows no nationality. You can find stupid (and smart) in every country.
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by frankfurt200 November 11, 2008 5:04 PM PST
Posted by msgtsteve at 05:00 PM

Again with the stupid comments. Iraq has never done a thing to the US. YOUR friends the Saudis attacked on 9/11.
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by element51 November 11, 2008 5:05 PM PST
Obama_Dkhed....As I read your racist disgusting posts I felt my face burning with shame. To think that there still people like you out there is a truly sobering thought. Let me ask you a simple question Dkhed. If your wife was in a terrible accident and the only way to save her life was a transfusion and the only blood available was from a black man would you refuse and let your wife die? I really don''t expect an answer from you but it is an interesting question. Hatred is a funny thing. It resides inside the hater and as it grows it will eventually consume your soul. It destroys the hater, not the hated. From your comments it is clear that you are filled with hate and sooner or later it will destroy you. But you will not change and you will pass your hate to your children and your grandchildren. So sad.
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by drtjohns November 11, 2008 5:14 PM PST
The small percentages of racist will live short lives, being that all are cowards, no one is listening. If they were, Obama would not be president. It does not matter in their environment what they see and hear, they were raise to be racist and will always be racist. There%u2019s no change in their behavior that would suggest otherwise. The world must deal with hate every day. When they face God in the judgement, their fate will be one horrible destiny for all eternity.
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by November 11, 2008 5:18 PM PST
Good News for the Racists--Jesus is coming down to earth.

Bad News for the Racists--She''s Black!
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by hotwitch November 11, 2008 5:20 PM PST
Racist Remarks? I thought the European form of racism was to round up unpopular ethnic groups, have them dig their own mass grave, and machine gun them down.
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by irmcvet97 November 11, 2008 5:23 PM PST
"Excesses" ? "Illegal War"? Hopefully America won''''t be judged by this idiot. After noboma pulls us out of Iraq, and buildings start blowing up here, remember who WAS stopping them from coming, the US Military. Iraq is a magnet for them to be killed OVER there rather than here.

Posted by msgtsteve at 05:00 PM : Nov 11, 2008

Uh Huh? OUR own Intelligence tells us that Bin Laden and the Taliban used Iraq to rebuild their forces and we still have people in our midst who believe THIS stuff! It''s one thing to get your clock cleaned but when people CONTINUE to drink the Snake Oil AFTER all the Failure?? Well you just can''t figure these people out!
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by irmcvet97 November 11, 2008 5:23 PM PST
"Excesses" ? "Illegal War"? Hopefully America won''''t be judged by this idiot. After noboma pulls us out of Iraq, and buildings start blowing up here, remember who WAS stopping them from coming, the US Military. Iraq is a magnet for them to be killed OVER there rather than here.

Posted by msgtsteve at 05:00 PM : Nov 11, 2008

Uh Huh? OUR own Intelligence tells us that Bin Laden and the Taliban used Iraq to rebuild their forces and we still have people in our midst who believe THIS stuff! It''s one thing to get your clock cleaned but when people CONTINUE to drink the Snake Oil AFTER all the Failure?? Well you just can''t figure these people out!
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by frankfurt200 November 11, 2008 5:23 PM PST
Anyone who wants to protest ORF''s continued employment of the racist Klaus Emmerich can do so by sending them an e-mail message at: online@orf.at

They won''t like the messages!
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by smurfcrusher November 11, 2008 5:25 PM PST
Clearly, McCain won the skinhead Nazi vote.
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by b0ludo November 11, 2008 5:25 PM PST
I guess we can call them ignorant Europeans... But I thought they were the educated ones. They are who we want to be in the new USSA! But if they are highly educated and still dislike Obama, I get it, they are racist?!
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by cdfoxtrot5 November 11, 2008 5:29 PM PST
"Excesses" ? "Illegal War"? Hopefully America won''''''''t be judged by this idiot. After noboma pulls us out of Iraq, and buildings start blowing up here, remember who WAS stopping them from coming, the US Military. Iraq is a magnet for them to be killed OVER there rather than here.

Posted by msgtsteve at 05:00 PM : Nov 11, 2008

They said the same thing about communism. We were told back in the fifties and sixties, if we don''t fight them in Korea / Vietnam / wherever, we''ll be fighting them on the beaches in California. Different idiots, same kind of thinking.

If you don''t think American troops did any wrong in "Eye-Rack", in terms of torturing people and murdering innocent civilians, I feel sorry for you.
And, yes it was and still is an "illegal" war, totally unjustifiable under international law - laws that the US was instrumental in building and supporting, until moron Bush and his cronies showed up. If you think none of this is worth anything, then what exactly are American troops fighting for???



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by smurfcrusher November 11, 2008 5:32 PM PST
"I guess we can call them ignorant Europeans... But I thought they were the educated ones. They are who we want to be in the new USSA! But if they are highly educated and still dislike Obama, I get it, they are racist?!"

Posted by B0ludo

So by your reasoning, intelligent / educated people cannot hate.

Hmmmm, can you hate?

In reality hate based on race is indeed racism, and it''s an irrational learned behavior. People are often taught racism at a young age (more impressionable) and it takes a significant effort to overcome this baseless emotional reaction to differences.

Yes, even intelligent people can behave irrationally, especially when raised to fear differences and when fed lies.

There is one basic truth they forget:

People are people.
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by excoachken November 11, 2008 5:33 PM PST
If there is such a thing, this is "reporting out of context." I have dozens of European friends and each and every one of them is so thankful that we elected Obama. Their is no sense of racial "issues" other than the criticism of those who were openly, racially insulting to Obama during the campaign. To say that this in any way represents the majority of Europeans is silly. worse than that, it gives a false impression, which is the #1 sin of a bad journalist. Shame on you.
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by November 11, 2008 5:34 PM PST
People are people, racists are racists, it''s not exclusive to any one country.

It''s also not just over color, it''s over beliefs, religion, you name it, any excuse.

In the end, we all lose.
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by smurfcrusher November 11, 2008 5:40 PM PST
I agree with you, excoachken. The whole world, with few exceptions, is thrilled that we made the best choice.

That isn''t as newsworthy as controversy, even if it is the lunatic fringe who are the topic.
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by chad55555 November 11, 2008 5:42 PM PST
Looks like we lost all respect we ever had in the rest of the world,we didn''t learn anything from Rice and Powell.The leaders in Euorpe know what America will turn into, looks like they read their bible and know their Christian God, better then Americans do. NOW WE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE SEWER OF THE WORLD, PEOPLE OF AMERICA WAS NOT HAPPY HAVING A GREAT COUNTRY,AMERICANS WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO GO HUNGRY AND LIVE LIKE THEY DO IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA''S.WE HAVE LOST OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD. DIVERSITY DOES DESTROY.
I WOULD ASK GOD TO HELP US BUT HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON AMERICA. THIS WAS A TEST ,AMERICA FAILED.
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by kansas1946 November 11, 2008 5:42 PM PST
One of the milder gaffes came from Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. On Thursday, during a visit to Moscow, he praised Obama for being "young, handsome and even suntanned."

Berlusconi''s remark caused a stir in Italy, as critics chided him for sounding like a fool. But the prime minister was unrepentant. "What''s the problem? It was a compliment," he told journalists the next day. Anyone who did not get the joke, he added, was an "imbecile."
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I don''t think that was a "gaffe" at all. I am hoping that the election of Obama will end this super-sensitivity to the mention of skin color. Obama is all of the things above, young, handsome, and "tan." We love him as he is. :o)
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by caligola-2009 November 11, 2008 5:43 PM PST
Berlusconi''s joke was NOT racist. This is the american perception. In some parts of the worls, still today you can call a black guy ''Negro'' without being offensive, and you are creating an issue repeating this forever. I come from SouthAmerica, where every family has a member with darker skin, and we call him ''negro'' with love, he is part of our life and wouldn''t dream about being offended. They used to call me ''Italiano'' and I would not be offended or discriminated, just because they were ''Friendly'' words. American perception is so extreme because slavery has been so BAD.
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by b0ludo November 11, 2008 5:44 PM PST
smurfcrusher: No hatred here. I have love for people of all colors, all races and most sizes. No, just making a point... It has seemed thus far that anyone who has dared question Obama has been labeled as a racist, but when you start reading the European press, you realize that intelligent Europeans with their quasi-ubiquitous post-graduate degrees, are also questioning the wisdom of hiring a lawyer when we needed an economist/warrior/pacifist (Powell fit half the bill) who can work both sides of the aisle. Looks like, as a country, we did not give ourselves much of a choice, either on the Rep or Dem side, having elected a newbie over a mummy.
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by b0ludo November 11, 2008 5:50 PM PST
Yes, some Americans who thought the European masses were rooting for Obama may come to realize that their reasons were less than altruistic. Many abroad feel that putting a Socialist behind the helm at this junction in our history is like electing a pyromaniac to the Fire Chief post. Many of those abroad are considerably better read, educated and travelled than the American "intelligentsia" that was firmly behind Mr. Obama.
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by popstom12 November 11, 2008 5:51 PM PST
Hahahaha who did''t see this comeing and he has not taken office yet
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by b0ludo November 11, 2008 5:51 PM PST
shazam138: I guess not all Obama followers were literary geniuses, huh?
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by frankfurt200 November 11, 2008 5:52 PM PST
Posted by B0ludo at 05:44 PM

Before you become in love with the racist slime of Europe, just remember than an overwhelming majority wanted Obama as President. In Germany alone 76 percent would have voted for Obama.
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