Nov. 9, 2008

Ted Turner Looks Back

Media Mogul Talks About His Life, Loves, Personal Struggles And Business

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    Morley Safer speaks with Ted Turner about his financial losses after the merger of Time Warner with AOL, his feud with Rupert Murdoch, his relationship with women, and his relationship with his father.

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    Walter Cronkite contributed this report on the America's Cup sailing race, in 1977, and met a very determined captain, Ted Turner.

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    Ted Turner spoke to Mike Wallace, in 2003, about his initiative to donate $1 billion to the United Nations.

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"Call Me Ted"
by Ted Turner and Bill Burke

(CBS)  That success is plastered all over the walls of his Atlanta office. CNN made Turner into a statesman of sorts, hobnobbing with world leaders. But he may be best remembered for the impolitic things he has said, insulting Christianity, fellow billionaires, and even the Italians. "Italians, Italians, imagine the Italians at war…They’d rather be involved in crime and just making some wine and having a good time," he once said.

His utter inability to self-censor earned Turner the nickname "The Mouth from the South." But to some it was evidence of true mental instability.

Turner admits he took the drug lithium for a while, but said it had no effect. But that didn’t stop his rival Rupert Murdoch from questioning his sanity during their legendary war of words.

Murdoch's newspapers were brutal attacking Turner, calling him nuts. And Turner thinks Murdoch had detectives following him around at times. "At least I think he did. I never had any proof of it."

Turner once said Murdoch was the most dangerous man in the world, but he no longer believes that. "I think George Bush is the most dangerous man in the world," he says. "I've made peace with Rupert. We had lunch together a few months ago. Now there's not anybody I don't like. But after this interview's over, I may not like you."

It's vintage Ted Turner, as was his joy when he agreed to AOL's merger with Time Warner. "I did it as much or more excitement and enthusiasm as I did on that night when I first made love some 42 years ago," he said.

He was now worth $10 billion. But shortly after the merger, Turner was pushed aside by Time Warner brass, even though he was the company's largest individual stockholder. Then the Internet bubble burst and AOL/Time Warner stock went into a free-fall.

Turner lost nearly $10 million a day for two and a half years. Asked if he ever considered getting out of this, he tells Safer, "But my kids were all in the stock, most of my friends were. So I sat there loyally and went down the drain with everybody else."

To the tune of $7 billion. To Turner, it was "Apocalypse Now." His marriage to Jane Fonda was breaking up, a grandchild was gravely ill, and he was jobless. His five children were worried, that like his father, Turner might take his own life.

"He contemplated suicide. And I was really worried when Jane left him, they took away his job the way they did, he was. That was the lowest I'd ever seen him," Turner's daughter Laura remembers.

"He was really depressed and a lot of other things were happening in our family as well. So it was a really, really tough time for him. And he barreled through it," son Rhett tells Safer.

"And he also got help. He got professional help," Laura says.

She says he went to a see a shrink. "And he said he always left his shrink and he cheered his shrink up. He said he would leave him laughing."

Turner admits he spent more time gallivanting around the globe than he did being a father.

"We never sat down for a meal for more than 15 minutes. I can guarantee you," Rhett remembers. "He'd also give the monologue. The conversation was his through the whole dinner."

"Yeah, after a vacation with Dad, you need a vacation," son Teddy jokes.

Recently, Turner says he has become a better father, and feels his relationship with his children is his greatest achievement.

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by sigmonde November 7, 2008 12:18 PM PST
Tough choice. Being alone with howling wolves or having Jane Fonda in your face 24/7. better the wolves.
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by cjs1943 November 7, 2008 12:39 PM PST
These 2 idiots deserve each other. He may know how to start and run a business and she may have talent to act, but other than that, they are really a couple of empty human beings.
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by kbhvac November 7, 2008 12:47 PM PST
There is that joke about waking up next to someone who is so ugly you would chew your arm off to get away without waking them up.

''coyote ugly''

The second song on the cd.

The first being, ''The gals all get prettier at closing time.''

It must be getting close to ''closin time'' for Ted and Jane.

But the song most requested by the man she knew as cowboy was the late nite benediction at the ya''ll come back saloon.

4th;Thank God and greyhound and she''s gone.

5th He stopped lovin her today

6th She stole my coyote and ran off with best friend.
I sure gonna miss my coyote.
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by markramseymd November 7, 2008 12:51 PM PST
I think that''s sweet. Whoever called them idiots is just mean. Sounds like he''s a little needy, but counseling can help. Maybe they should think about it.
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by Yeeeech November 7, 2008 12:56 PM PST
Oh please!

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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST
What a travesty that the REAL Montanans have been afflicted with this pansy. You must be kidding me...You''re Scared? Scared of what? You need to grow a set or maybe buy a rifle and learn to eat some of the things you are scared of. Jesus Christ man.

You *** city dwelling want-to-be country idiots have ruined Montana and Idaho.
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by rccpepper November 7, 2008 2:00 PM PST
Dont worry Ted, obama is going to take your vast amounts of land and spread the wealth - you wont be alone for long.

Or is obama only going to take the REAL AMERICANS wealth to spread and leave the LIBERAL HYPOCRITES (TED TURNER) wealth alone?
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by brsecu November 7, 2008 2:09 PM PST
Bwhahahaha funny stuff. No one wants you anymore jane Fonda. You all have to see this... HalfPad.org
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by alisoncarnie November 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST
Gabrielle "Coco" Chanel said "There are people who have money and there are people who are rich."

Seems Ted Turner is simply a person with money.
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by sarahtx2 November 7, 2008 2:27 PM PST

May I come and keep you company, Ted?

CNN is telling us all to suck up to our bosses to keep our jobs. Can I suck up to you instead?
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by slapshot1998 November 7, 2008 2:34 PM PST
Get some VC to man a SAM site out there and Jane will come a run''n.
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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 2:47 PM PST
What a travesty that the REAL Montanans have been afflicted with this pansy. You must be kidding me...You''''re Scared? Scared of what? You need to grow a set or maybe buy a rifle and learn to eat some of the things you are scared of. Jesus Christ man.

You *** city dwelling want-to-be country idiots have ruined Montana and Idaho.
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by montanaman9 November 7, 2008 2:58 PM PST
You *** city dwelling want-to-be country idiots have ruined Montana and Idaho.


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Posted by TheTwigMan

I absolutely agree. What a wimp. I''ve seen this guy strolling around Bozeman with his brand-new $1000 boots and driving his $100,000 Range Rover....that''s never seen dirt. Scared of coyotes? You''ve got to be kidding me.....
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by pomoc-2009 November 7, 2008 3:38 PM PST
Ted is a good guyIhave great memoreis from his sailing days he needs to look forward not backwards or he will hit a hardwall GO FOR IT TED with a little effort you can be very happy.
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by warrwim November 7, 2008 3:49 PM PST
Ted has suffered from depression throughout his life which has been publically documented and openly discussed by Captain Courageous himself. I don''t agree with Ted''s politics but consider him a visionary, a sportsman and a generous leader. He gave a great talk at Georgetown back in 1982 or 1983 and I''ve been impressed with him ever since. Go in peace!
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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 4:19 PM PST
America69:
What are you... Ted''s little sister? You are probably just like ol'' Ted. Or maybe you are one the the thousands of worthless Californians who ruined our way of life with the lack of character.

My guess is you couldn''t shoot your way out of a wet paper bag. In fact, you have probably shot your mouth off more than you have a gun...

Anytime you think you have the sack for it come out to Idaho and talk your tough guy city talk. It''s likely you will learn what it feels like to have a foot up your butt instead of your mouth.
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by fr0andtee November 7, 2008 4:24 PM PST
I''m not Fonda Jane
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by BobMaine November 7, 2008 4:26 PM PST
"want-to-be country idiot"

Why would anyone want to be a country idiot?
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by sarahtx2 November 7, 2008 4:27 PM PST
Gee, I really want a man who can shoot his way out of a wet paper bag. That''s a big accomplishment and a great leap for mankind. Seriously, is that as good as it gets in Montana and Idaho?

Poor Ted.
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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 4:32 PM PST
Yes. This is all Idaho and Montana has to offer. There is nothing to see here...please keep driving.
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by kmagrammy November 7, 2008 4:37 PM PST
I mean, really, who cares?
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by mjm117 November 7, 2008 4:39 PM PST
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh! I have 2 million acres...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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by truth_police November 7, 2008 4:43 PM PST
I think what Turner said was that it was scary living in a sprawling million dollar Montana mansion, alone, because he could hear "coyotes out there howling." Of this he said try it sometime, "It''s pretty scary." This is a classic example of how alienated wealthy people are from ''nature'' and reality. It is also a perfect example of why wealthy pampered socialites should NOT be put in positions where they are making important decisions that significantly impact on ordinary people who are not, typically, so divorced from nature and reality. Because America has failed to understand this, it is not surprising that the economy, the environment, the government and the corporate sector are as profoundly screwed up as they are. These ''out of touch'' power and influence brokers (like George Will) are always the ones erroneously telling us that everything is just hunky dory when it is NOT. And this is why.
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by jimesmith2 November 7, 2008 4:44 PM PST
Geeez -- there''s a lot of leftover anger from the conservative losers! Haven''t any of you ever broken up with someone you still loved, but couldn''t be in a relationship with? Why don''t all you conservatives go outside and shoot your guns into a few empty beer cans and work out your anger?
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by Marie Zarankevich November 7, 2008 4:48 PM PST
Hey Folks. -- When you are lonely, and in need, may you all find someone as warm and comforting as yourselves to care for your heart. -- Good Luck!
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by November 7, 2008 4:53 PM PST
Two huge losers that thoroughly deserve each other. They should be tearfully reunited, preferably in prison. Good riddance to beyond bad rubbish.
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by lauren0211 November 7, 2008 4:54 PM PST
I feel no saddnes for Ted Turner. He can have anybody and anything he wants. But just because you have tons of money, does not bring happiness, you have to be flexible in a relationship, you have to work at it if you really love someone. I have always been one of his fans. Ted, I too don'' like being alone. E-mail me.....
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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 4:59 PM PST
Truth Police:

Well said. Unfortunately, people that haven''t been directly affected by wealthy individuals ransacking their states don''t have an clue.

I hope to be wealthy enough some day to vote for a Democrat or a Republican.

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by usclimey November 7, 2008 4:59 PM PST
Two huge losers that thoroughly deserve each other. They should be tearfully reunited, preferably in prison. Good riddance to beyond bad rubbish.

Posted by nostudme

Such nice people conservatives are. No doubt they''ll be around doing their best to put the negative side forward every day for the next eight years. From what I know of Mr Turner, he''s philanthropic, generous to a fault and a visionary and he hates Murdoch. Not exactly a loser unlike yourself; no stud me.
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by montanaman9 November 7, 2008 5:06 PM PST
As a native Montanan, I can speak for numerous other sportsman who rue the day when Ted discovered Montana. He came in, bought and assembled numerous properties to create the Flying D, and now the Snowcrest in southwest Montana, total acreage well over 200,000 acres, and shut it off to sportsmen and women, for his own private game reserves and his own ego. These were ranch lands that had been open to generations of Montana hunters and their families,with permission of course, but now are closed down for at least as long as Ted owns them. It is a true blue bummer for us guys and our sons and daughters who used to enjoy this piece of our heritage, but didn''t have the money that Ted does to buy those ranches...now we don''t have the access either...Thanks Ted
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by thetwigman November 7, 2008 5:13 PM PST
Thank you MontanaMan. You crystallized my thoughts perfectly.

Here, we have a real life example of future generations being affected by the greed and ego of a wealthy individual.

You may think us nasty and mean "conservatives" (which by the way has nothing to do with this subject) but if you had lived in a place for generations you would probably have a different perspective. It would surprise me if you weren''t a little bitter yourselves.
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by blackyowe November 7, 2008 5:40 PM PST
I have coyotes howling here when I am alone and they don''t scare me. I go out on the deck to hear better in the middle of the night sometimes.
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by heritagemom November 7, 2008 5:47 PM PST
Read between the lines folks. You know *** well he looks out over his kingdom and can''t believe how he actually pulled it off. It''s bragging, not loneliness. Technically, I''m his next door neighbor--I live in North Dakota.
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by gramto8 November 7, 2008 5:58 PM PST


Here, we have a real life example of future generations being affected by the greed and ego of a wealthy individual.

You may think us nasty and mean "conservatives" (which by the way has nothing to do with this subject) but if you had lived in a place for generations you would probably have a different perspective. It would surprise me if you weren''''t a little bitter yourselves.

Posted by TheTwigMan at 05:13 PM : Nov 07, 2008

So according to you and montanaman, no one should have the right to bar anyone from accessing their property. Private property means nothing to you, huh? Does that mean that anyone who wants to can go into your home and help themselves to anything they want?
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by thisandthat1 November 7, 2008 6:07 PM PST
"He touches me deeply"? Isn''t that the whole idea?
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by itgranny November 7, 2008 6:13 PM PST
montanaman9: I could almost feel sorry for your plight except that I myself am the owner of a nice piece of wildlife habitat. I''ve been in this place for 20 years and have turned away probably a hundred hunters. It''s not that I''m against hunting, it''s the rudeness and the people that just want hand outs.

If there had ever been one person who asked me in the springtime if there was anything they could do to help me I probably would let them hunt here. so far no one''s offered to help plant or water new trees or spray for noxious weeds or any sort of help whatsoever.

Then i got the jerks that think they are so cute standing at the edge of my property (right by the no hunting sign) and send their dogs in to scare up pheasants, they shoot them, the dog brings them back. That''s how they deal with "no trespassing!"

And then there''s the ones that will go in anyhow. My dad''s place had some SOB''s that trespassed, shot a deer, and rather than get off their lazy azzes and tote it out, they cut the fence, drove the truck through the alfalfa field leaving deep tracks, and didn''t bother to fix the fence.

I don''t mind hunters, but the further people get away from the land, the more inconsiderate they become. They have no idea how to treat the land or the value of what it takes to have that pristine pheasant, deer, elk land.
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by shedhouserob November 7, 2008 6:22 PM PST
I can''t help but think Ted tries to do what is right. I think he ought to get on his hands and knees, and I think Jane ought to too? and--- get back together!
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by troutfisher4 November 7, 2008 6:36 PM PST
Just goes to show that money can''t buy happiness.


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by antepamfe200 November 7, 2008 7:39 PM PST
I realize that there are those people who are very rich, do good things to help the less fortunate. This is to the ones who do not share. Think of all the good you could do to help those who are not as fortunate as you. Please, share. Thank you.
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by antepamfe200 November 7, 2008 7:42 PM PST
Ted, you are lonely there on your land. I suggest you ask those who have no homes and have to live on the street and scrape just to survive, how lonely they are?
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by Meg003 November 7, 2008 7:50 PM PST
Call up Hanoi Jane and get her fat butt over there right away - then you two can be alone together.
Posted by Speakinup21

C''mon, now. There are many accurate and well-deserved insults that can be thrown at Jane Fonda. "Fat butt" isn''t one of them. The woman is trim and fit.
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by agobbler November 7, 2008 8:19 PM PST
I was feeling a bit down until I came across this article. Now, I can''t stop laughing. I mean, who really cares anything whatsoever about people like this? They have shown consistently over their lifetimes that they care about little else than themselves. And time and again they have foisted their wrapped sense of thinking off on the American public. Thanks for the chuckles.
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by agobbler November 7, 2008 8:20 PM PST
I was feeling a bit down until I came across this article. Now, I can''t stop laughing. I mean, who really cares anything whatsoever about people like this? They have shown consistently over their lifetimes that they care about little else than themselves. And time and again they have foisted their wrapped sense of thinking off on the American public. Thanks for the chuckles.
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by sheila2u-2009 November 7, 2008 8:56 PM PST
Oh yeah...heartbreaking..mega bucks low life and Hanoi Jane...I hope they are both about as lonely and miserable as G_d wants them to be...
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by megawhy November 7, 2008 8:57 PM PST
Gee Ted..will be happy. He will be able to pay all of our taxes for us. Now that we are moving to Socialism I volunteer to have Ted share some of his weatlh with me. After all it is shameful that he has so much and everyone else so little. There is no need for him to be alone on those ranches, he can share the land, use them for huge wind mills and acres of solar panels so we can get away from the evils of fossil fuels. Ah come on Ted, support the new administration and gim me gim me gim me! :-)
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by wolverb November 7, 2008 11:02 PM PST
Poor Ted, I bet it is lonely out there on 2 million acres all by yourself. I used to own 600 acres here in Texas but had to sell it to pay medical bills, but you still don''t hear me whining about national health care. But I would love to have just 100 acres where I could go and listen to the coyotes howl but I''ll never be able to afford it. So I have a real hard time feeling sorry for Ted or Jane. They have made all of their riches off of America but they hate this Nation and they refuse to give back a dime. When they start spreading the wealth, it won''t be Ted or Jane who pay.
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by yourpointis November 7, 2008 11:11 PM PST
This was just sickening.....He should try to live in a one bedroom apartment alone sometime - hearing the neighbors hollering! :)

I do NOT feel sorry for this man one bit....not one spec.

I''ll gladly trade him my 2 1/2 for his 2 million acres.....
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by njdev1k November 7, 2008 11:41 PM PST
Maybe time for Ted to find a friend.....

http://www.jokerzinternetradio.com/phpmotion/play.php?vid=104

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by rational_1 November 7, 2008 11:41 PM PST
I realize that there are those people who are very rich, do good things to help the less fortunate. This is to the ones who do not share. Think of all the good you could do to help those who are not as fortunate as you. Please, share. Thank you.
Posted by antepamfe200 at 07:39 PM : Nov 07, 2008

I don''t think your entreaties are necessary - the Obamination we just elected will be forcing him to share soon enough.
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by yongamerica November 7, 2008 11:51 PM PST
It''s lonely on the top.
I bet he has has big posse though
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