Obama Unveils Presidential Transition Team

As Congratulations Pour In, President-Elect Begins Process To Build Cabinet To Help Deal With Challenges At Home And Abroad

(CBS/AP)  President-elect Barack Obama Wednesday announced that his presidential transition team will be led by John Podesta, who served as chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, campaign advisor Valerie Jarrett, and Pete Rouse, who has been Obama's chief of staff in the Senate.

Though informal transition planning has been going on for months, the creation of the Obama-Biden Transition Project gives Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden a formal structure through which to undertake the tasks necessary in transferring power, chief among them helping to select Cabinet members and White House staffers in the new administration.

There have been reports that one decision has already been made: Some news organizations reported Wednesday that Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel was offered the position of White House chief of staff. But the Obama camp has indicated that Obama has not formally offered Emanuel the position, and aides to the Democratic Caucus Chair, the fourth-highest ranking Democrat in the House, told CBS News that the reports are wrong.

Not since Franklin Delano Roosevelt won the 1932 election has a president-elect faced so many problems both at home and abroad. Obama has just 76 days until his inauguration.

Ken Duberstein, former chief of staff under Ronald Reagan, told CBS News senior White House Correspondent Bill Plante, "You gotta hit the ground running. You have to be going a hundred miles an hour from day one."

Obama has told aides that he wants to take his time and choose his cabinet carefully. He presently aims to announce his choices after Thanksgiving, CBS News has learned, and does not want to rush the process - or appear to be doing so.

On Thursday, Obama will begin receiving highly-classified daily briefings from top U.S. intelligence officials. He will receive information, mostly written by the Central Intelligence Agency, to which he never before had access, even as a senator.

Biden will also begin to get his own briefings beginning this week.

Despite all this, Obama managed to enjoy a relatively normal day in his hometown of Chicago on Wednesday: Seeing his two young daughters off to school - a simple pleasure he's missed during nearly two years of virtually nonstop travel - and then a workout.

The quieter morning followed an electric night of celebration, anchored by his victory rally of 125,000 in Chicago and joyful outpourings of his supporters across the country.

Though votes are still being counted out west - and there are provisional and absentee ballots outstanding - CBS News is estimating that the final turnout in the 2008 election will be 133 million or more Americans, many of whom endured hours-long waits Tuesday to cast their ballots.

133 million votes would mean that 57 percent of the voting age population cast a ballot, up from 55 percent in 2004 and 50 percent in 2000.

The first African-American destined to sit in the Oval Office, Obama was also the first Democrat to receive more than 50 percent of the popular vote since Jimmy Carter in 1976. He is the first senator elected to the White House since John F. Kennedy in 1960.

And Obama scored an Electoral College landslide (349 to 163, with two states still outstanding) that redrew America's political dynamics. He won states that reliably voted Republican in presidential elections, such as Indiana and Virginia, which hadn't supported a Democratic candidate in 44 years. He also tapped Ohio and Florida, both of which were key to President Bush's victories.

"Indeed, Obama’s election arguably represents the most dramatic break from the status quo ever in presidential politics," said CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs. "The first black president, one with a less-than-familiar name, is in so many ways a complete repudiation of everything about the presidency of George W. Bush."

On The To-Do List

Naming the staggering list of problems he inherits in his decisive defeat of Republican John McCain - two wars and "the worst financial crisis in a century," among them - Obama sought to restrain the soaring expectations of his supporters late Tuesday night, even as he stoked them with impassioned calls for national unity and partisan healing.

"We may not get there in one year or even in one term," he said. "But, America, I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you, we as a people will get there."

Helping him to get there will be a strengthened Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. When Obama becomes the president on Jan. 20, with Biden as his vice president, Democrats will control both the White House and Congress for the first time since 1994.

Dee Dee Myers, a White House press secretary under President Bill Clinton, told Early Show anchor Harry Smith that Obama should make appointments to demonstrate he is moving ahead to signal "that you have a handle on these problems."

"It wouldn't hurt him, in the next few days, to be surrounded by some of his economic advisers, the people who got him here, like (billionaire) Warren Buffett, Bob Rubin, the former treasury secretary, Paul Volcker, former chairman of the Fed - people who are very reassuring in the eyes of the American people and helped to get Barack Obama here," she said. "But I think he needs to show that the competence that got this candidate to the White House is going to be the rule of the day as they go forward, and that he's moving quickly."

Obama appears likely to draw several of his top aides (including some Cabinet secretaries) from three key sources: Democratic governors midway through their second and final terms in office; former top appointees of Bill Clinton's administration; and political pros from Obama's hometown of Chicago.

People close to Obama believe he would offer jobs to some or all of a quartet of Democratic governors who campaigned hard for him, even if a couple of them opposed him initially.

Two who have thrived in Republican-leaning states - Gov. Janet Napolitano of Arizona and Gov. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas - backed Obama from the start. Napolitano is seen as a possible attorney general. Sebelius is mentioned as a possible secretary of Education, Commerce, Energy or Health and Human Services.

Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania is seen as a possible pick for the top Energy or Transportation posts. Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who sought the presidential nomination himself, is thought to be on a short list for secretary of state.

The four would have to give up the last two years of their eight-year terms as governor, something that might give them pause.

Former Democratic governors who might become Obama appointees include Tom Vilsack of Iowa, mentioned as a possible Agriculture secretary.

Obama already has turned to a former Clinton aide, John Podesta, to head his transition planning.

Top Obama campaign aides David Axelrod and David Plouffe of Chicago would be probable picks for senior adviser or political posts. Campaign aide Robert Gibbs has the inside track to be press secretary.

Other Chicago associates likely to land posts in an Obama administration include lawyer and fundraiser Penny Pritzker and business executive and family friend Valerie Jarrett. Also deemed certain to have a prominent role, if he wants one: Former Senate Majority leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

One major task facing Obama, writes CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen, is to pick an Attorney General who will continue to rebuild the Justice Department "in the wake of Alberto Gonzales’ disastrous reign."

"The candidate must restore professionalism and nonpartisanship within the Department and also continue to adapt to the evolving legal war on terror," writes Cohen.

It will be interesting to watch the faces of those who elected Barack Obama - they will rapidly change from their wide-eyed wonder - to confusion, then to apprehension, then to disbelief, and finally to horror as they discover their new leader is as hollow as the promises he has made.

Joe Biden is right - Barack Obama will be tested, and the entire Democrat-controlled Congress will be tested - and they will not have the luxury of blaming anyone else for their own failures.

And fail, the Democrats will.

And fail, Barack Obama will.

And then comes the judgement of the American people.

And it will be severe.

No more whining, Democrats - now you get to be the punching bag.


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Posted by CBSisPravda at 12:26 PM : Nov 05, 2008

SOS Different Day

[rudy654-2009]

There was a time that a person had to be from the Fascist South to be considered White Trash, but not anymore. McCains Nazis have exposed themselves as Americas newly crowned White Trash!


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Posted by ConDumbistan at 12:30 PM

Remember that guy in a McCain crowd in Minnesota, shouting angrily about "How did we get here? I am angry!!" He even interrupted McCain. Yep, didn''t have to be from the south.

[olivia4441]

Sad day, indeed. There is just a feeling of unbelievable disappointment not only in Americans who are naive and want to take from others something they did not earn, but in the way the media has portrayed someone with no experiance to lead a great nation . Yes, it does warrant drama and anger-- if it didn''t feel this way, we would be unAmerican. Pity there is so many who hate America so much. OBAMA is worse than BUSH-- you all will learn very quickly you made a grave error is judgement. Obama is not my President any more than Carl Marx was.

[windmaster12]

Dole Epitomizes why The GOP lost--

The use of fear -- falsehoods -- Character assassination

Trickery -- lies -- Goebbell''s style Propaganda ---

Mccarthyism --- Camouflaged Racism etc. Have done them in

Finally I''m Glad God is off the leash the GOP

Thought they had Him on!!!!

Guess what He''s not a Republican after all!!!

The Republican''s were Incompetent leaders--

That''s why they lost the election!!!

Sad day, indeed. There is just a feeling of unbelievable disappointment not only in Americans who are naive and want to take from others something they did not earn, but in the way the media has portrayed someone with no experiance to lead a great nation . Yes, it does warrant drama and anger-- if it didn''''t feel this way, we would be unAmerican. Pity there is so many who hate America so much. OBAMA is worse than BUSH-- you all will learn very quickly you made a grave error is judgement. Obama is not my President any more than Carl Marx was.



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Posted by Olivia4441 at 12:35 PM : Nov 05, 2008

OK.

Define experience How much experience did the founding fathers have in government? They did a pretty good job though as a basis.

We don''t hate America at all, based on your response, perhaps it''s time to look in the mirror and see where the hate truly resides.

[likeitis5050]

The truth will be able to come out now, because as anyone who is over 10 knows....the media loves to tear down what it has placed on high for all to see. Just when they feel they have succeeded in making anyone bigger than life they begin the process of deconstruction. Michelle has no place to hide now. Obama will have no place to go for unconditional protection from the truth. The media has created and now the media can enjoy a brief period of self-satisfied back-slapping before it''s time to bring the idol down. It will happen...and before America gets upset with the process, remember...you enable them....you feed off them...you can''t get through a day without their consent and topics of discussion that you hope make you appear so much wiser than you are simply because you listen to them and take your cues from them. Obama is about to be a sacraficial lamb for the sake of media amusment. But we have a black president...history can''t take that away from us. The media, on the other hand, has so many more tricks up their sleeves to keep the nation divided and discontent...just wait.

The truth will be able to come out now, because as anyone who is over 10 knows....the media loves to tear down what it has placed on high for all to see. Just when they feel they have succeeded in making anyone bigger than life they begin the process of deconstruction. Michelle has no place to hide now. Obama will have no place to go for unconditional protection from the truth. The media has created and now the media can enjoy a brief period of self-satisfied back-slapping before it''''s time to bring the idol down. It will happen...and before America gets upset with the process, remember...you enable them....you feed off them...you can''''t get through a day without their consent and topics of discussion that you hope make you appear so much wiser than you are simply because you listen to them and take your cues from them. Obama is about to be a sacraficial lamb for the sake of media amusment. But we have a black president...history can''''t take that away from us. The media, on the other hand, has so many more tricks up their sleeves to keep the nation divided and discontent...just wait.


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Posted by likeitis5050 at 12:43 PM : Nov 05, 2008

In case you hadn''t noticed the "media" didn''t vote, a record number of Americans did and they said what was on their mind. President, Senate, House. A repudiation of the Republican party,and it''s tactics.

[likeitis5050]

It''''s worth it just to hear the sound of the door slapping you Right Wing Fascists in the A$$ on your way out!


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Posted by johnbrown888

Typical stupid response. No one has gone anywhere...same as the Dems did when Bush entered...they stalked, paced, dug for dirt, and pounced with all their dirty, grimy hands every chance they got until they finally got their feet back in the door. Pelosie hasn''t been dry between the legs since she got the gavel, and it was on her watch that the biggest tax free for all in history took place, and she still has the nerve to smile for cameras! This is politics...any one who really thinks this is cause for celebrating the end of a party is stupid. Politicians are, by nature, sleezy and self-centered ego-mainiacs who thrive in a bottom-feeding environment. Get a grip and if you really want to have some fun...keep an eye on the winners of this latest round...watch how quickly they think no one is watching them....and watch what they all do...all the time. None can be trusted to work without supervision...none!

[likeitis5050]

Posted by likeitis5050 at 12:43 PM : Nov 05, 2008

In case you hadn''''t noticed the "media" didn''''t vote, a record number of Americans did and they said what was on their mind. President, Senate, House. A repudiation of the Republican party,and it''''s tactics.




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Posted by rickwar

Oh so now you''re going to play stupid....fine. The media had a heavy heavy hand in this election and if you don''t think so you need to step away from the pipe and put down the kool-aid....til then...you are useless.

[mumu11]

This article get the prize for stating the obvious. With the mess left by the Bush/Chenney administration, our economy in shambles, and our world reputation in tatters, there indeed is a lot on the elected president''s plate and a lot of reconstruction work for the whole nation. Of course 4 years wont be enough. Frankly, I sincerely think it will take no less than 20 years of steady work by dedicated successive presidents to repair the nation and erase all the disastrous consequences of the past 8 years. The press should start by focussing on its usual institutional ADHD and concentrate on doing its only legitimate job: informing the public, rather than try -as usual- to second guess both the people and those it has elected.

[olivia4441]

A day to remember?..November 3, 2008!

The day that they United States of America ceased to exist as a free and independent capitalist nation. The day that the pledge of allegiance became a worthless statement and the Constitution was reduced to the status of toilet paper. The day that the principles and ideals that once served as the foundation of the nation were trampled underfoot and banished to the realm of oblivion. The day that the decline and fall of the greatest nation in the world reached the point of no return beyond the possibility of rescue or salvation.

Congratulations to all of the lazy mindless gullible greedy selfish idiots responsible for the travesty who are only capable of sucking off of the *** of the real working citizens of the country and stealing their hard earned money and property for themselves. Congratulation for ushering in the change you so earnestly desired which will establish the first totalitarian government of the United States.

Congratulations to those wonderful racists, those immoral scum bags, those incredible extremists, those stalwarts of socialism, those tremendous lovers of fascism?you?ve managed to succeed at the task that all of the previous enemies of the United States of America could not.

[khadilov]

And fail, Barack Obama will.
Posted by CBSisPravda at 12:57 PM : Nov 05, 2008

Why would you say this. Don''t you see his failure as President will be our? I never wished back luck on Bush, I always wanted him to make the right choses, but it did not turn out that way. So Bushes failures are ours as a nation. I pray the President Obama always make good decision that are good for our nation.

[xyno-2009]

What surprises me most is the fact republicans have the filibuster, and that there are still people on the Republican side who are obviously racists...the vote last night pretty much divided along the confederacy....

Posted by MrNrgmizer at 12:46 PM : Nov 05, 2008

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Hey you idiot, the divide last night was EXACTLY the same as it was in 2000 and 2004. Get a clue.

[noaanhc]

So nice to see the GOP supporters on here bemoaning their losses.

A new day had dawned in America.Give Barack Obama and us Democrats 8 years and the US will never be the same as it was ever again.Under the leadership of President Obama the United States will become once again the shining symbol of freedom and democracy and will again become a respected nation in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Well done my fellow Americans for last night we voted to take back our country.

[hober_mallow]

I don''t understand the comments from CBSisPravda..

"And fail, the Democrats will.
And fail, Barack Obama will."

Does CBSisPravda WANT Obama and the Democrats to fail? Is he/she LOOKING for failure? Is he/she WISHING ill on the American public?

I didn''t vote for Bush in 2004. Even though I still hoped that the Middle East would get straightened out. I was really hoping that the U.S. economy would chug ahead. I certainly did NOT hope that the current mortgage/banking debacle would occur. I truly wanted America and Americans to be successful.

So what is it, CBSisPravda, now that your guy lost, do you want the U.S. to go into the toilet to prove that you''re right? If so, you''re a snot.

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by Olivia4441 at 12:58 PM

No, Olivia. It is OK! McCain didn;t get elected. You must be reading the wrong election coverage. So the ignoring the constitution and movement toward fascism, like we have had for 8 years, has stopped.

As far as your other claims, I woke up today and stopped at the gas station on the way to work. Bought a coke from a capitalist business owner. Didn;t pass any police checkpoints with barbed wire to check my papers or anything. I encountered a few racists today, but then I live in bright red Tennessee, and i kind of expected that wouldn;t go away overnight.

Congratualtions to all Americans for the wise choice that occured yesterday. great job!

[element51]

CBSisPravda...Olivia4441...It is indeed sad to see that there are people out there like you who hate America so much that you would hope for failure simply because your party lost. You blame it on the media and claim that we cannot think for ourselves but you listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and let them do your thinking for you. The media had no influence on my decision to support Obama. The funny thing is that it was people like you who did the most to push me to the Obama camp. For months I have read your nasty insulting snotty lies and half truths and it is by your very words that I came to the point where I am. Olivia, you say that you will not accept Obama as president...that''s fine. You have options. You can leave the country and go somewhere that has a leader you can follow. You can take a good look at America and try to help solve the many problems we face. Or you can continue to whine and moan about how terrible Obama is before he even has a chance to prove himself. I will bet that you will continue to hate him and to hate those of us who support him. Finally, I have worked all my life, served my country proudly during Viet Nam, and have never asked for anything in return other than the right to live in this wonderful country. I have watched for almost 30 years while the republican party tore down the middle class and ground us into the dirt. Well, we''re back and we will be stronger than ever. Get used to it or pack your bags and go somewhere else. We aren''t leaving.

[xyno-2009]

So what is it, CBSisPravda, now that your guy lost, do you want the U.S. to go into the toilet to prove that you''''re right?

Posted by hober_mallow at 01:11 PM : Nov 05, 2008

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Maybe you didn''t, but that''s exactly what 90% of the people on the left wanted when Bush was elected.

It''s that bi-partisan cr.ap that is killing our country. I didn''t vote for Obama, but I wish him the best for our country''s sake.

[guyfrompa49]

The only good thing to come from all this is that with a deomcrat (Black or white or biracial) president
and A dem congress there will be no more exceptable excuses from the throngs of complaining democrats and liberals over the past 8 years. You seem to have all the solutions so lets put the money where the mouth is. I give it 6 months befroe you start complaining about how you were promised this and that and how you have nothing to show for it. You''re at bat lets see it.

[xyno-2009]

CBSisPravda...Olivia4441...It is indeed sad to see that there are people out there like you who hate America so much that you would hope for failure simply because your party lost.

Posted by Element51 at 01:19 PM : Nov 05, 2008

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And where was this indignation the last 8 years???

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by Guyfrompa49 at 01:22 PM

I expect you feel the same way about the GOP excuses for the last 8 years that got us to this point? We are deep in a hole my friend, and if you expected some overnight miracle from either candidate I need to find out what kind of hallucinogens you have been taking.

[element51]

benobana.....Your somewhat feeble attempt at sarcasim displays your limited intelligence. None of us expect anything like you post. What we are looking for is a government who will be honest with us good or bad. Your post is nothing but ********* and anyone with half a brain will just blow it off for what it is. However, I would like to see cheap gas again.

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by CBSisPravda at 01:27 PM

Posts like that one make me ill. That, along with people saying "OK Dems, it is YOUR at bat, lets see what YOU do, are part of the reason we are in this mess. If we want our country to survive, and then eventually thrive again, it will take people from both parties coming together. This was the case regardless of which candidate was elected POTUS. Your bitter hope for failure is cutting off your nose to spite your face. If we fail (assuming you are an American, which i highly doubt), we all fail. If you are American and are hopign for failure, you are simply treasonous; a traitor to your country.

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by scb1111_1 at 01:30 PM

ummm... where have you been the last 6 months? i lost 30% of my investments, and now you are going to blame Obama being elected? Geesh.

[guyfrompa49]

Stratmaster2 _ wrong.. I want nothing more than for this country to succeed. I don''t care who is runiing it. With that being saiod however. All i have seen on here is constant bashing. No resolution from anyone. Just what we shouldn''t have done. Well we have had 2 yrs of a dem congress and they have done Zilch.Have a lower rating than even Bush. So I want to see what the hell we''re gonna do to change it. Words mean squat.

[element51]

Xyno....Before Bush was elected 8 years ago I told everyone that he was a mistake. But he was elected anyway and I tried to support him. But it was just one fvck up after another and still I supported him. I have always wanted what was best for the country and there has never been one second where I wanted to see the country fail. So don''t try to tell me that I am un-American. And what''s killing our country is people like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity who spew hatred and lies every day. Look to the right source if you want to cast blame. It''s time for the hate to stop.

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by Guyfrompa49 at 01:33 PM

Well then, we are on the same page. We just disagreed on who was best to lead us out of this mess. So with that said, i look forward to working with fellow Americans to try to help our leaders get us out of this; whether they are GOP, Dem, white, black, male, female, rich, poor or any other category they fall into.

[xyno-2009]

Posted by MrNrgmizer at 01:32 PM : Nov 05, 2008

Thanks for proving my point.

[creepymoose]

I want Moose booty!

[xyno-2009]

Posted by Element51 at 01:34 PM : Nov 05, 2008

If you think the hate is only coming from one side, then you have blinders on.

[element51]

To all of you on here who want so badly to see Obama and the democrats go down in flames just remember this. If that happens you''re gonna be going down right beside the rest of us. So you can come on here with your insults and snotty remarks just like you have done for the last couple of years and if you get your way you can whine all about how "right" you were. But your arsses will be fried too. Think about it.

Yesterday......

Cowardice and fear lost.
Courage won.

Stupidity lost.
Brains won.

Phony lost.
Authenticity won.

Lies lost.
Truth won.

That don''t happen very often, it''s a very rare occurence. It sure feels good.

[guyfrompa49]

Stratmaster2 - I''m with you.. Hope everyone joins in.

[bogusbones]

there are always going to be those that will spew hate and divisiveness. may they rot. we have to join together and make things work for all of us. these radio show hosts who are looking for nothing but ratings and $ should be shown for what they are. shams, pure and simple. it is fine to present the other side of the story, but let''s do it in a less vindictive manner.

[guyfrompa49]

We as U.S. citizens from now on can accept nothing less than the leaders of our Gov putting our interests our safety and security first and formost above all else.

[georgiadog8]

All together now sore loser whiners ...President Obama will make our country better ....United we stand - Divided we fall. And again....

[troutfisher4]

The hate began in 2000 when Bush won. So we on the other side will begin our hate toward this RADICAL "far-left" SOCIALISTIC Liberal Democrat Barack Obama today!!!

Posted by scb1111_1


That is very mature and constructive.

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by scb1111_1 at 01:47 PM

The difference is, Bush proved to us he deserved the comments. give Obama a chance. If he lies us into any wars, spies on our citizens etc. i will be the first one calling for his impeachment. I think the guy is sincere. Lets give him a chance to see if that sincerity can translate into actios that help our country; and lets remember where he is starting from. I wouldn;t have envied either candidate being thrown into the mess that has been created.

[troutfisher4]

Lots of sour grapes here from the cons.

Come on guys, you lost. Be manly and quit your whining.

[guyfrompa49]

scb1111_1- Well we will se what he does soon enough.

[element51]

Xyno.....What makes you think I hate you? Why should I, I don''t even know you. Let me tell you about hate. It is the most destructive of all emotions. It attacks from within and only works to destroy the one who carries it. Eventually it will devour your soul leaving you to wallow in misery for the rest of your life. Tell me why anyone in their right mind would want that. There is a big difference between not liking something and hate. I may not like you but I don''t hate you. And nothing you can say or do will make me hate you because I refuse to allow hatred to creep into my heart.

[olivia4441]

January 20, 2009? If he lives that long. Come on now, one attempt on this president candidate that failed, so you actually think someone will not try again?? He is an extreme liberal..that is not "uniting" that is socialism. I wil not pay taxes so others can sit on their A--. I will not stop owning guns. I will not stop speaking my mind. If you who voted for Obama you voted against all this. Shame on you.

[georgiadog8]

All together now sore loser whiners ...President Obama will make our country better ....United we stand - Divided we fall. And again....

[element51]

msgtsteve.....You sound like a 5 year retarded kid. Your screen name implies that you were a master seargeant in the military but having served myself, I never saw any NCO with your childish attitude. Now don''t forget to hold your breath till you turn blue. These little temper tantrums will most certainly make you feel like a big boy.

[guyfrompa49]

POTUS_Obama - All you anti Bush guys must remeber who you put up against him. John Kerry. Could you imagine if he was elected.. We''d all be muslim by now. Let''s move on.

[xyno-2009]

Xyno.....What makes you think I hate you?
Posted by Element51 at 01:52 PM : Nov 05, 2008

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I was not talking about me and you. I''m talking about hate coming from those on the left as well as those on the right. The rest of your post I agree with.

[bjcone8559]

He will never be my President, I can''''t wait for the LANDSLIDE election against him in 2012!!! Kick the "nut-job" out now and make me HAPPY Today!!!


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Posted by scb1111_1


Sounds like you have a plan. One problem... what will be the name of the party that defeats him in 2012? The republican party is toast, finished, kaput, done!!!!

[Stratmaster7]

Posted by Olivia4441 at 01:56 PM

sadly olivia, you have no clue. Obama supports the 2nd amendment and is not raising your taxes unless you make 250k+. there is nothing about taxes that is socialism, at least not anything more than there has been since the day the graduated tax went into effect, which was way before Obama was even born. Yo are uninfomred and you sound un-american, although i am sure that is not the case and you are just venting, right?.

[xyno-2009]

Come on guys, you lost. Be manly and quit your whining. Posted by troutfisher4

I am not whining and hope Obama turns out to be the greatest president in our history.

What I am saying is that I wish all of you on the left would have taken your own advice 8 years ago. Hell, some of you are still whining about how Bush stole the 2000 election!!

[listenupfool]

The difficulty lies, not in the new ideas, but in escaping the old ones, which ramify, for those brought up as most of us have been, into every corner of our minds.

John Maynard Keynes