AP/ February 11, 2009, 2:04 PM

Supreme Court Divided On TV Profanity

This image taken from CCTV obtained by Associated Press video shows Luka Rocco Magnotta entering the Internet cafe in the district of Neukoelln in Berlin, Germany, Monday, June 4, 2012, where Kadir Anlayisli, who works in the cafe recognized him. "I looked at him and thought I knew him from somewhere, because I read newspapers every day," Anlayisli said. Luka Rocco Magnotta was apprehended on Monday in an Internet cafe in Berlin after an employee there recognized him and alerted police, Berlin police spokeswoman Kerstin Ziesmer said. The 29-year-old Canadian porn actor is accused of videotaping a killing and mailing the victim's body parts to the country's top political parties. (AP Photo/AP Video)

This image taken from CCTV obtained by Associated Press video shows Luka Rocco Magnotta entering the Internet cafe in the district of Neukoelln in Berlin, Germany, Monday, June 4, 2012, where Kadir Anlayisli, who works in the cafe recognized him. "I looked at him and thought I knew him from somewhere, because I read newspapers every day," Anlayisli said. Luka Rocco Magnotta was apprehended on Monday in an Internet cafe in Berlin after an employee there recognized him and alerted police, Berlin police spokeswoman Kerstin Ziesmer said. The 29-year-old Canadian porn actor is accused of videotaping a killing and mailing the victim's body parts to the country's top political parties. (AP Photo/AP Video)

A divided Supreme Court spent an hour on Tuesday talking about dirty words on television without once using any.

There was no apparent consensus on the court about what to do in the dispute between the broadcast networks and the Federal Communications Commission over celebrities' one-time uses of profanity on live television during hours when children are likely to be watching.

The court's first major broadcast indecency case in 30 years deals with whether the government can ban these "fleeting expletives." The court could avoid deciding whether the FCC policy violates the Constitution and instead determine that the FCC did not adequately explain why it changed its mind in 2004 and instituted the ban.

The words in question begin with the letters "F" and "S." The Associated Press typically does not use them.

"The reason these words shock is because of their association with a literal meaning," Chief Justice John Roberts said, suggesting his support for the policy. Roberts is the only justice with young children at home.

Justice Antonin Scalia, who has more than 20 grandchildren, also said he sees nothing wrong with clamping down on the use of bad words on television and blamed the networks for coarsening the language.

On the other side, Justice John Paul Stevens indicated that he believes Americans are more tolerant of vulgarities than they were when the court ruled 30 years ago that the FCC could keep profanities off the airwaves between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

It was hard to tell where the court is heading because three justices - Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas - said little or nothing.

For many years, the FCC did not ordinarily enforce prohibitions against indecency unless there were repeated occurrences. But in 2004, the commission changed the rules after Bono, Cher and Nicole Richie used familiar but profane words during awards programs in 2002 and 2003.

A federal appeals court in New York threw out the ban, saying the FCC didn't provide enough explanation, and the government appealed to the Supreme Court. The appeals court also said, but did not rule, that the new policy probably is unconstitutional.

The FCC has authority to regulate speech on broadcast radio and television stations, but not the Internet, cable and satellite TV.

C-SPAN asked the court to release a recording of the arguments for airing shortly after their conclusion. The court grants such requests from time to time, but turned down C-SPAN with no explanation.

The case is FCC v. Fox Television Stations, 07-582. Fox Television Stations is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
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barbaram99 says:
tucker,
as always yer right..Another poster asked who is going turn the TV on/off. Do ye need the answer ,,well here it is..Ye as adults do..Ye set the standands in the home, It is not up to the court in this matter. ever heard of the v-chip. I have a TV and my computer has TV card. I have not set it up. Parents are the care givers . If a show is not what ye want them to watch..ye Mum/Dad change the the channel..I don''t care for alot what is on..I don''t watch.
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impeach__w says:
Free Speach Rules! Quit letting the TV raise your kids and take some of the responsiblity yourselves. Kids don''t buy TVs or any of the products advertised- Parents do!
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darnedsocks says:
THE DECISION IS VERY SIMPLE: ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OR PROTECTING THE VERY "THOUGHT LIFE" OF CHILDREN. PERIOD.
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messiahx4eve says:
I listened to some children yesterday playing football behind the playground where we live, every other word was the F word, the S word, the H word, all kinds of four letter explicitives that would make a sailor blush. Most of these kids parents talk the same way as their children; MODELING BEHAVIORS are the strongest known in education. These children are between the ages of 8 and 12, along with several teen agers expressing the same explicitives. There was NO TELEVISION present at the time. The source is the primary groups, such as parents, family, and friends, not televison. A television can be turned off or the channel changed, the other influences cannot. Next time you fire off a serious case of foul words, check to see who is within earshot if it concerns you so much FIRST.
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imperfexshun says:
I personally appreciate the lack of profanity on daytime and primetime tv and I do turn off or change the channel when a movie or cable show has language, nudity, or sexual scenes that I don''t care for. Everyone talks about the freedom to say the words but no one says anything about my right to not have to listen to foul language out in public, walking down a street, on a bus, etc. Basically the people who use gutter language have all the rights re freedom of speech and the rest of us don''t seem to have any. Just like people who blast their music and assume that everyone likes it.
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mumu11 says:
Tucker, I think you misunderstand the few European laws regarding hate speech and negationism. To be considered hate speech, a speech must actively encourage people to harm others. for example "I hate the martians and I think the martians are the source of all evil of Earth" would not be a hate speech, but "let''s take our pitchforks and kill the Martians" would be. As far as denying the Shoah is concerned, it is a crime, in some countries, for someone to use his/her position of leadership or influence to hide or mask the truth from the people at large. Since the Holocaust is a proven historical event (and its victims weren''t all Jewish -3 million gypsies too- besides the 6 million Jews), it is a crime to induce people into believing it didn''t exist. It is the flagrant, divisive, and dangerous dishonesty which is punished, not the fact that its targets are the Jews.
To get back to the subject of the article, frankly doesn''t the Supreme Court have anything more important to decide than the protection of our virginal ears? If I don''t like what I hear, I change the channel and, if that fails to bring a more agreeable program, there is always the power button. We aren''t a nation of infants and can -and do- lead our lives as we see fit.
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blazercoach1 says:
It seems that in this age of so many made-up "rights", this is an additional one: The "right" to watch TV without profane language.

As I am consistently against the courts making up rights that are not explicitly given in the Constitution, I would be against censoring these things. Of course, I would need to think this through......so called "hate speech"? Or is that another invented thing?

In any case, I agree with those who say "you don''t have to watch if you don''t like what happens" just as much as I agree with those who say "then don''t have *** if you don''t like what happens".
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grumpas says:
Rush Limbaugh offends me! Which is why I refuse to listen to him.
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omnibus66 says:
If a program consistently uses language that is offensive to viewers, they won''t watch it, ratings will drop, and the program will disappear.

The important point here is the phrase ''offensive to viewers''. What offends you may not offend me, and vice versa. We are supposed to have freedom of speech, and government has no place deciding what should or should not be considered offensive or obscene language.

Movies, TV shows, video games, and music all come with content ratings. No one forces anyone to watch or listen to any of it.
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barbaram99 says:
People let my share with ye this.. I was 28 years old and and in a blind centre. A staff member bortht her little 3 year old daughter. I asked where ye hear talk like that. I was shocked is why I asked. The tot said Mummy. It was words she should not have heard and/or recited. The high court wants to clean up TV aint they running too late. I HAVE HEARD IT ALL IN THE HOMES. There are 7 words that can''t be said on TV. Tucker ye one smart gent..I am from New England and the dang puritans they killt in the name their church. TV sets have an on/on thing plus yer can change the station people..Yer want everything sanitised .Life is not that way.
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