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Nearly two years after the 2008 campaign officially began, Election Day is finally here. The path from there (when John Edwards announced his candidacy in December of 2006) to here has been unpredictable at times and unprecedented in so many ways.

No matter what happens, history will be made when the voters have had their say and elect either the first black president or the first woman vice president.

Barring a repeat of 2000, the campaign will come to an end at some point late tonight or perhaps in the wee hours of Wednesday morning. The most expensive election in U.S. history will be in the books and all the thousands of TV ads as well as all those national and state polls will be rendered meaningless.

There’s not much left to be said as voters head out to vote in what both sides are predicting to be record numbers. But, plenty of questions remain to be answered as the results come in. Here are 10 questions for Election Day:

1. What Should You Watch For Today? With turnout projections extremely high, long lines and reports of problems at the polls throughout the day will be worth keeping an eye on. Weather forecasts for much of the nation show few potential trouble spots but rain could be an issue stretching from southeast Pennsylvania to parts of Virginia and North Carolina - all battleground states.

It’s not at all unlikely that long lines, particularly in urban areas, will result in some states or cities extending voting hours, which could delay results in key places. Also, large numbers of voters means more to count for overworked election officials, which could mean the results coming in slower than normal.

Exit poll or purported exit poll information could spread anywhere on the Internet but be wary of anything you see. Quarantine procedures virtually guarantee that real data does not get out until much later in the day and, even then, anything you see could easily be early and incomplete. Beware.

Jeff Greenfield has a more complete breakdown of what to keep an eye on once the polls have closed, but right off the bat, before 8:00pm Eastern, the big four targets are Virginia, Indiana, North Carolina and Ohio. All are states carried by Republicans in at least the last two presidential elections and are crucial to John McCain’s hopes. If he’s doing well in those four states, it could be a long night.

2. Can Obama Win A Mandate? Democrats haven't won big mandates in presidential elections in recent history (and even Republicans have to go back a way to find their last big victory). However, Democrats' hopes have been raised by the polls leading up to the election that this could be a defining year, both nationally and in the Electoral College.

So, what would a mandate look like? Compared to the last four elections, it wouldn’t take much to win a big one. Bill Clinton won a whopping 370 Electoral Votes in 1992 but only managed a popular vote plurality of 43 percent, thanks to Ross Perot’s nearly 19 percent grab in that election as a third-party candidate. Clinton bettered his haul in 1996, winning 379 Electoral Votes, but still fell just short of a majority in the popular vote. Nobody needs to be reminded about the narrow split decision in 2000 and in 2004, George W. Bush just barely managed a majority in both.

A convincing popular vote victory appears within reach for Obama. With big turnout by black and young voters, Obama could run up his vote in states he’s unlikely to win - like Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas - and in states he should win easily, like California and New York. A big Electoral College win is a bit trickier but not out of the question. Should states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida all tilt Democratic this year, it probably means he’s also winning Virginia and Colorado - perhaps even North Carolina and Indiana.

Fifty-three percent or higher in the popular vote combined with 338 or more Electoral Votes wouldn’t be a 49-state, 59 percent Reagan sweep, but a mandate nonetheless.

3. Can McCain Pull Off A Shocker? Don’t think this isn’t a real possibility. The odds are long, no doubt about it, but it’s not out of the question. So much has been made about this campaign taking place on largely Republican territory that it’s often forgotten that it is just that - Republican territory.

George Bush didn’t win two presidential elections by pure luck - he did it with very reliable get-out-the vote machines in many of these same states. For all the hype and attention given to Obama’s organization, Republicans have flown under the radar screen. But senior party officials say they are revving it up to the hilt and remain confident that there is at least a path to 270. If McCain can take places like Ohio and Virginia, that probably means teetering states like Indiana and Missouri can be held as well.

While Obama has made real inroads in the west, Pennsylvania could be this year’s Ohio or Florida from past elections. It’s an inside straight to be sure, but the cards left in the deck give them a shot.

4. What Does Massive Turnout Mean? Both sides in this election (and isn’t it telling that third party candidates have all but disappeared on all levels this year?) are predicting record turnout - at least in terms of raw numbers, if not percentage. There could be as many as 130 million Americans casting votes.

Conventional wisdom holds that increased turnout will benefit Obama in a big way. That might well be true. But even if larger numbers of black and young voters turn out to vote, their totals as a percentage won’t have the same impact if Republicans increase their share of the pie as well. Keep this in mind when you begin to hear about large turnout tomorrow: In 2004, Democrats not only far exceeded their turnout in Ohio, John Kerry received more votes than any other presidential candidate of his party, ever. But he lost, because Republicans did the same. Huge turnout could be a wash but probably benefits Obama, at least in the popular vote.

5. Can New Hampshire Happen Again? Remember the New Hampshire primary? Most polls had Obama cruising to a big win, some by as many as ten points. It was supposed to be the finishing blow to Hillary Clinton, who was staggering after a third-place finish in Iowa. But Clinton came back to win and take Obama all the way to the very end of the primary season.

Another bothersome signal for Obama is that he sometimes over-performed in exit polling during the primary season, getting much less of the actual vote than projected. There’s no way to tell whether many of these polls heading into the election are right or wrong until after the votes come in, but keep an eye out in those states where Obama remains in the lead, yet under 50 percent. If his support is being exaggerated, those are the first places you’ll see it.

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by newsthought1 November 4, 2008 1:06 AM PST
America is fed up with all the scandals from Republican crooks, liars, perverts, lawbreakers, and used-car salesmen hucksters that have trashed this country over the last eight years:

Bill Frist
Randy "Duke" Cunningham
Jack Abramoff
Tom DeLay
Mark Foley
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Bob Ney
Trent Lott
Ted Stevens
Alberto Gonzales
Donald Rumsfled
Karl Rove
Scooter Libby
*** Cheney
George Bush

Lying about reasons for going to war with Iraq (Uranium,
false claims about Iraq''s supposed weapons of mass destruction.)
Torture in Abu Ghraib.
The treasonous exposure of a CIA agent by White House officials.(Plamegate)
Letting Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora
Halliburton%u2019s overcharging and outright fraud for services in Iraq
Lack of body armor for troops
Enron
Katrina
Illegal wiretapping
Political influence peddling
S.e.x scandals
Troopergate
Travel fraud
Election tampering
Ballooning federal debt
Economy in a tailspin

And these are just for starters%u2026

Enough is enough, America is ready for change!
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by missingamerica November 4, 2008 1:12 AM PST
I''m tired of seeing America being lead by people who think that it is the job of government to help those who by any standard have so much money that they don''t need help - and worse, they don''t hesitate to break the law in providing that help.

So I''m voting Democrat. Straight up and down.
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by zietzke-2009 November 4, 2008 2:20 AM PST
Based on the comments here, I would have to say "Viva Obama" !!

The last 8 years of the Bush Administration was the WORST in Americn history....No doubt about it....

"WE THE PEOPLE" HAVE SPOKEN....NO MORE !!

NOW, GO AND VOTE !! Lets take our country back.
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by tapsettle November 4, 2008 3:15 AM PST
Does any **wise** person actually care about this election?
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Posted by anon00

You mean to say there are people in america who can think? Now I KNOW you are having a laugh ! Good one anon00, good one.
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by riptide213 November 4, 2008 3:47 AM PST
"What the naysayers don''''t understand is that this election has never been about me. It''''s been about you."

Barack Obama
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by jonathanw20 November 4, 2008 4:10 AM PST
Sarah Palin''s summary medical report: "Over the past 17 years, Governor Palin is in very good health". Why that line? Why specifically 17 years? Is that what took so long - to try and remove that line? We all know she joined the Assembly of God church around that time and had child births. Was there an abortion before that? And there is no mention of mental health - something that many are concerned given her unusual public performances.
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by tannerbird November 4, 2008 5:07 AM PST
Most republicans are voting for Obama they have had enough
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by tannerbird November 4, 2008 5:10 AM PST
I hope Palin is back in Alaska buy now.
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by shanev137 November 4, 2008 6:24 AM PST
McCain looks like he''s already aged another 10 years during this campaign.
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by earache4 November 4, 2008 6:33 AM PST
1. Which house will McCorpse retire to?
2. How fast will Levi break the engagement?
3. (This on''s for Sarah) How can I self exonerate my parking tickets?
4. Will Alaska take the Palins back? (please)
5. What will happen to the wardrobe to nowhere?
6. Does McCorpse think he would have won if he had kept his appointment with Letterman?
7. Will Cindy dump Geriatric Johnny?
8. What will Todd do with those redskins season tickets?
9. When will Obama start the war crimes trials for Shurb and company?
10. Can we finally change the name of the white house?
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by earache4 November 4, 2008 6:42 AM PST
McCain looks like he''s already aged another 10 years during this campaign.
Posted by shanev137 at 06:24 AM

That''s just because his makeup budget is gone, you''re seeing the real McCorpse....
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by fzy1hc November 4, 2008 6:59 AM PST
Could someone tell me where Obama was born?

State / Town Country? News ask no answer
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by fzy1hc November 4, 2008 7:04 AM PST
Vote for a person who was not born in AMERICA.
Obama all the way. Africa will like this.
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by kiee1 November 4, 2008 7:05 AM PST
To All . In swing states, We all have the right to vote I have read much today about some states are not prepared for the huge turnout, make the, keep the polls open . Democrats ,You who early VOTED vote early tomorrow return to your pooling place,15 to half be fore they close. The polls cannot close when there are voters waiting pass the people who have have not yet to vote forward in line . They will have to stay open as long as there are voters waiting, Please lets not allow the G.O.P. STEAL another ELECTION. This iI a very import notice for voters in key swig states . Please let all votes be counted !!!!!!!!! please cut and paste on to as many boards the media nrws papers national local We can achive one of dr. kings dreams and cain have real change kiee1
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 7:09 AM PST
1.What Candidate cannot and experts say will not be able to get a security clearance to join the FBI or CIA?

2.What Candidate Said He will Bankrupt our Coal Indusry?

3.What Candidate said electric rates will skyrocket?

4. What Candidate went to a Racist, anti-american church for 20 years?

5. What Candidate promises change but his actions dont?

6.What Candidate has more terroristic friends than Arafat himself?

7.What Candidate studied law so well that he will destroy the constitution to fullfill the ideology of his long standing radical friends?

8.What Candidate will get HAMAS dancing in the streets?

9.What Candidate Economic Policy of 95% will get tax breaks is Just Pure BS?

10. What Candidate will bring AMerica to A socialist state similar to Cuba?
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by rixmix98 November 4, 2008 7:15 AM PST
MaryKaye23

Grow up will ya?

Re-distribution of wealth has been going on in this country under every adminitstration and under every party:

Social Security - workers pay in one amount, then retire and draw amounts WAY IN EXCESS of what they ever paid in (which is why the system is going
broke).

Graduated Income Tax - different earning levels pay different percentages in taxes.

Tax Deductions - If you''re "wealthy" enough to own a home, you get to deduct your mortgage interest from your taxable income; meanwhile.... if you don''t earn quite enough to ever be able to save and buy a home, you''re just stuck with paying taxes on your full earnings.

Child Tax Credit - every child/dependent you have merits you a $3,000 credit whether you earned $25,000 or $75,000

On and on and on it goes. Every person in this country is a recipient of some version or other of government redistribution of wealth!!!..

What do you call the economic stimulus checks that were sent out earlier this year? I bet you didn%u2019t turn that down did you? I suppose it%u2019s different when it benefits you?

Hypocrite.


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by rixmix98 November 4, 2008 7:31 AM PST
Posted by SocialismSux at 07:28 AM : Nov 04, 2008

Hey weirdo. What about the people that didn''t get the check. You know, those of us that worked hard all year, paid taxes, but earned more than the maximum.

What? You at a loss for words?
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by tincup356 November 4, 2008 7:31 AM PST
do not forget, the congressmen who voted FOR the bailout are not through, If they are re-elected today we can rest assured that they will start moving quickly, to rob this country of what is left, Mark my words people they are not through...UNLESS we vote them out TODAY. they have dragged their feet on doing anything till after this election,NOW lets drag them kicking and screaming out of the offices that they have not represented us from anyway.I pray the voters have not forgotten the anger that they had for this same congress as the bailout was to be voted for the first time.WHY would they want to change their minds now?
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by earache4 November 4, 2008 7:34 AM PST
Joe the Plumber has allot more courage and integrity than Obama could ever dream of...
Posted by SocialismSux at 07:25 AM

Just don''t ask him about his IRS investigation....
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by earache4 November 4, 2008 7:36 AM PST
OBAMA, i''''ll spread the wealth around
Posted by MaryKaye23 at 07:10 AM :

Spread the wealth is the same thing as trickle down, just with the spigot turned on....
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by tincup356 November 4, 2008 7:42 AM PST
it doesn''t matter which man wins the president race, they are going to spread the wealth, only thing is all the wealth is going to very few places and only upwards the SPREAD will be between those that have and those that don''t.
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by singlemom81 November 4, 2008 7:57 AM PST
The Republicans criticize Obama for "redistributing" wealth but they have been doing it since Reagan. It is their version of socialism called "Trickle down economics" Since 1979, the wages of the top 1% of wage earners has increased 3.3 fold. The wages of the middle 20% have increased about 1.2 fold and the bottom 20% has increased only 1.06 fold. Many of the wealthy who benefited from those tax cuts have helped to send jobs overseas; reduced workers'' wages and benefits so they could have larger profits; and, brought you the debacle in the banking and housing sectors which has devalued houses 30% in several areas of the country. Reagan great tax cuts cost me an extra $300--money I could have used as a single parent with a young daughter. Now McCain wants to tax my health insurance that I get through my work. When I was young I was a Young Republican, but life has turned me into a Democrat. Go Obama!
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by ybotheratall November 4, 2008 7:59 AM PST
There is no doubt in anyone''s mind that Sarah Palin is a woman, however, people have GOT TO STOP calling Obama black or african-american. IF he were black, he would have a black mother and a black father. He does not. IF he were ''african-american, he would have been born in Africa, moved to America, became a citizen. He did not. Also, he would not be eligible to run for the presidency. If I were black I would be outraged not proud. Obama is of mixed race and not black.
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by rixmix98 November 4, 2008 8:00 AM PST
Posted by singlemom81 at 07:57 AM : Nov 04, 2008


Thanks for the excellent post. It''s refreshing to see I''m not the only one that understands that Redistribution of Wealth is not a new concept.
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:03 AM PST
1.What Candidate cannot and experts say will not be able to get a security clearance to join the FBI or CIA?

2.What Candidate Said He will Bankrupt our Coal Indusry?

3.What Candidate said electric rates will skyrocket?

4. What Candidate went to a Racist, anti-american church for 20 years?

5. What Candidate promises change but his actions dont?

6.What Candidate has more terroristic friends than Arafat himself?

7.What Candidate studied law so well that he will destroy the constitution to fullfill the ideology of his long standing radical friends?

8.What Candidate will get HAMAS dancing in the streets?

9.What Candidate Economic Policy of 95% will get tax breaks is Just Pure BS?

10. What Candidate will bring AMerica to A socialist state similar to Cuba?

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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:06 AM PST
Singlemom81, do you know that 70% of americans pay less than 2% of the tax bill. That the top 1% earners pay 40% of the tax Bill. How much more do the rich need to pay, dont they provide the jobs. Do you think by taxing them even more, that more jobs will be created? I am unemployed and looking , i would love to have a handout , but not if it will cost us the american dream and we decide to move closer to a Socialist European Model. That I and many americans will not stand for.
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:08 AM PST
If Obama follows thru with everything he wants to do guided by the radical left, Nancy Polosi, Al Gore and Harry Reid. Our Country that we know it will no longer have its core values left. WATCH THE STOCK MARKET IF OBAMA WINS. YOU WILL SEE CHAOS!! I KNOW I AM PULLING OUT MY MONEY AND EXCHANGING FOR GOLD. TRY TAXING THAT!!
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:11 AM PST
ITS SAD WHEN 1/2 of AMericans are choosing

He himself even said that under HIS CAP AND TRADE program that Electricity bills in America will SKYROCKET. He''''s also said he will bankrupt the coal industry. Wonder how many other industries he plans on bankrupting.

Over

SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO GROW THE ECONOMY!!
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:14 AM PST
DO YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS REALLY WANT TO BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY. I HOPE YOU LIKE PAYING MOST OF YOUR CHECK FOR ELECTRICITY!!! Just Like Carter 4 years, Obamanomics will take us further.
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 8:17 AM PST
"It seems barry obama''''s billion dollar campaign will pay off. sell an inferior product to the American people.
Posted by kevinkkloste at 08:14 AM : Nov 04, 2008"

Check the expiry date on the other one.
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 8:21 AM PST
"No self-respecting country would elect as president a man who spent 20 years taking spiritual guidance from a pastor who openly hates the country ---------------------------------------- Posted by Olivia4441"

Like these guys better ?


"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", "and I won''t be buried under their d*a*m*n flag."

"I''m an Alaskan, not an American. I''ve got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Jo Vogel, Founder of AIP

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States. She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

Now, what does the 14th Amendment say ?

(...) No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or GIVEN AID OR COMFORT TO THE ENEMIES THEREOF. (...)
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 8:24 AM PST
"If Obama wins, tune in to the Al-Jazeera network and "Palestinian" tv.
They''''ll all be celebrating in the streets, just like they were on 9-11-01 when the twin towers went down.
Posted by SocialismSux at 07:23 AM : Nov 04, 2008"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/3238578/John-McCain-endorsed-by-al-Qaeda-supporters.html


John McCain ''endorsed by al-Qaeda supporters''
Supporters of al-Qaeda have said they would prefer Republican candidate John McCain to win the US election because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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by hannity2012 November 4, 2008 8:26 AM PST
I just have one Question for Obama.

Obama, what makes us think you are going to govern in the center? Twenty years in a radical church. 10 years working with Bill Ayers, a known terrorist. Voting record as Liberal as they come. Voted 90+ times to raise taxes. Obama , how do we know you will keep your promises. You wont. And the people of America will be dupped by your promise of change.
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by whitemale08 November 4, 2008 8:37 AM PST
As failure of the Republican President George Bush comes to a close, I just want to say: "We almost didn''t survive the catastrophe of the last 8 years but we did".

Now all Americans, Democrats and Republicans alike will embrace CHANGE. We will finally change the country for the better come out of the darkness.
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by olivia4441 November 4, 2008 8:41 AM PST
3 types of people voting for Obama!

Super-rich (Hollywood movie stars, George Soros, Franklin Raines etc.)

Super-stupid (the masses who get their "news" from
CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS)

Super-racist (the blacks and whites who will vote
for him because he''s black)

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by cj7jeepstir November 4, 2008 8:51 AM PST
Man, the anti-democracy right-wing trolls are really coming on strong here today. I guess hate, perpetuation of lies & mis-information, and forums like this are all they have left. Too bad. Their energies would be so much better spent trying to make this a better country no matter who leads, rather than vilify every American who thinks differently from them. They''ve pretty much had their way for most of the past 12 years or so and look where it''s gotten us. It''s time to try something different, and even if we disagree with it, we owe all America our best effort to make it work. Like it or not, we''re all in this together.
%u2014From a Republican
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by american30 November 4, 2008 9:02 AM PST
Did anyone just see Obama vote it seems to take quite a long time for him I wonder if he was having second thoughts about his choice?

LOL
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 9:04 AM PST

"Super-racist (the blacks and whites who will vote
for him because he''''s black)
Posted by Olivia4441 at 08:41 AM : Nov 04, 2008"

The whites who vote for Obama are "super-racist" ?
That''s the only explanation you found to explain why Obama will get plenty of white votes ?

I see a simpler reason : they just vote for the competent candidate, regardless of race.
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 9:06 AM PST
"The reason Al Queda supposedly "endorses" John McCain is because they believe that our presence in Iraq is a mistake, just like you liberals do.
so how''''s it feel to think just like Al Queda?
Posted by SocialismSux at 08:56 AM : Nov 04, 2008"

Read again. They are happy to see us there : no trip overseas needed anymore. Moreover, there were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq BEFORE the invasion ...
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by abbe91 November 4, 2008 9:07 AM PST
so how''''s it feel to think just like Al Queda?
Posted by SocialismSux at 08:56 AM : Nov 04, 2008

BTW, still looking for WMDs ?
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by american30 November 4, 2008 9:08 AM PST
The whites who vote for Obama are "super-racist" ?
That''''s the only explanation you found to explain why Obama will get plenty of white votes ?

I see a simpler reason : they just vote for the competent candidate, regardless of race.

Wrong that would be the ones who are married to blacks.
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by mytoosense November 4, 2008 9:14 AM PST
America is fed up with all the scandals from Republican crooks, liars, perverts, lawbreakers, and used-car salesmen hucksters that have trashed this country over the last eight years:

Bill Frist
Randy "Duke" Cunningham
Jack Abramoff
Tom DeLay
Mark Foley
Larry Craig
Ted Haggard
Bob Ney
Trent Lott
Ted Stevens
Alberto Gonzales
Donald Rumsfled
Karl Rove
Scooter Libby
*** Cheney
George Bush

Lying about reasons for going to war with Iraq (Uranium,
false claims about Iraq''''s supposed weapons of mass destruction.)
Torture in Abu Ghraib.
The treasonous exposure of a CIA agent by White House officials.(Plamegate)
Letting Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora
Halliburton%u2019s overcharging and outright fraud for services in Iraq
Lack of body armor for troops
Enron
Katrina
Illegal wiretapping
Political influence peddling
S.e.x scandals
Troopergate
Travel fraud
Election tampering
Ballooning federal debt
Economy in a tailspin

And these are just for starters%u2026

Enough is enough, America is ready for change!



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Posted by newsthought1

Nice Post!!!

The Bush years have produced so much CRAPP it becomes a brown blur after a while.
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by listenupfool November 4, 2008 9:15 AM PST
Mandate? You are tripping. Obammy will lose this election by 2%
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by hatesthecolt November 4, 2008 9:19 AM PST
Not a bad article. I think in hindsight McCain''s focus1 Joe the Plumber will be regarded as a mistake. As in the case of so many other things (Palin pick, "fundamentals of the Economy" comment), Mccain acted rashly and without considering long term effects. This guy was a knucklehead and a loose cannon and although he captured the imagination of those without much imagination, there wasn''t sufficient payback to have made it worthwhile.
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by jydavis1 November 4, 2008 9:21 AM PST
if Obama wins will our government still be controlled by Israeli interests ?
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by mytoosense November 4, 2008 9:22 AM PST
Watching McCain''s stump speeches reminds me of that Family Feud Show; McCain says he''s going to win and the crowd claps too load while looking doubtful.
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by VegasResident November 4, 2008 9:26 AM PST
Okay read the story below on Joe the Plumber. He takes advantage of the system. And the Toledo Department? Someone should sue the next time they get a ticket.......

Joe the Plumber gets warning, not speeding ticket

13 hours ago

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) %u2014 Police stopped "Joe the Plumber" for speeding last week but didn''t issue a ticket out of concern it would reflect negatively on the Toledo department, an officer''s report said.

Officers tracked Samuel J. Wurzelbacher driving about 50 mph in a 35 mph zone in his Dodge Durango SUV on Wednesday, the police report said.

In the final presidential debate, Republican John McCain portrayed Wurzelbacher as emblematic of people with concerns about Democrat Barack Obama''s tax plans. Wurzelbacher has since endorsed McCain. His instant fame set off a rush of interest in the plumber''s background.

Toledo''s police chief said on Tuesday %u2014 the day before the traffic stop %u2014 that a department clerk faces a disciplinary hearing for allegedly looking up Wurzelbacher''s address on a state computer database.

Wurzelbacher was given a verbal warning because of that ongoing investigation and because a citation could have "negative repercussions to the department and city as a whole," according to the report, which lists "Patrolman Bailey" as its author.

Wurzelbacher would not comment on the traffic stop when reached by telephone Monday evening.
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by hatesthecolt November 4, 2008 9:27 AM PST
if Obama wins will our government still be controlled by Israeli interests?
Posted by jydavis1


Good question...I don''''t know.
I hope not


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Posted by jh6379again

I know they finally booted that nasty little cabal in Department of Defense out, but I fear they have installed a lot of their ''guys'' in non-political appointee slots and it will take a while to drive them out. I thinhk they''ll go on their own once the Asst. Secretaries are installed so long as the new political appointees really dig into what''s going on.
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by windmaster12 November 4, 2008 9:28 AM PST

Mccain, Bush, and the rest of the GOP-

Managed to take Clinton''s surplus,
And 8 years later they replaced it with:

Bigger Gov''t --
Though they promised Smaller Govt-

Greater Debt-
Though they promised fiscal responsibility-

The largest Trade Deficit in history-
Outsourcing millions of US jobs

Then they Pulled a Commie Chavez move
Nationalizing Fannie and Freddie
The Socialization of our Financial Institutions-
With Billions in tax payer paid bailouts-

Institutional Welfare for Wall Street Incompetents-

War in Iraq and Afghanistan
Costing us 10 Billion + a month
Ridicule throughout the world--

But they did give Tax breaks and incentives to:
The upper 3% -
To Big Oil,
And the GOP Defense Conglomerates--


The Choice is Astonishingly Clear---

VOTE GOP
VOTE MCSAME

CONTINUE THE BUSH LEGACY
FOUR MORE GLORIOUS YEARS
OF GOP BS

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by hatesthecolt November 4, 2008 9:30 AM PST
I hope my conservative brethren will put down their guns and bibles long enough to pull the lever for Sarah Palin!


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Posted by paidGOPshill

Evangelicals have been "pulling the lever" for Sarah Palin for two months now.

(Yeah, it''s a chep shot, but it was such a great set up I just couldn''t let it go!)
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