Oct. 28, 2008

Record Spending In Senate Battlegrounds

Washington Post: Voters In 11 States Are Being Inundated With Ads From Candidates And Outside Groups

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Television viewers in North Carolina have befriended two codgers sitting in rocking chairs on the front porch of an old country store. They rock and swap insults about Elizabeth Dole, 72, the state's senior senator:

"I'm telling you," says the first good old boy, "Liddy Dole is 93."

"Ninety-three?" replies the second.

"Yup, she ranks 93rd in effectiveness."

"After 40 years in Washington?"

"After 40 years in Washington, Dole is 93rd in effectiveness, right near the bottom."

"I've read she's 92," says the second old man.

"Didn't I just tell you she's 93?" says the first.

"No, 92 percent of the time she votes with Bush," says number two.

"What happened to the Liddy Dole I knew?"

"She's just not a go-getter like you and me," says number two as both rock their rockers.

That is the entire content of a 30-second spot that ran again and again in North Carolina over the summer. To the amazement of the Dole camp, the first polls taken just before Labor Day, after this commercial blanketed the state, showed Dole's Democratic challenger, state Sen. Kay Hagan, slightly ahead. She is still ahead, according to recent polls, putting Dole high on many lists of endangered Republican incumbents.

In the 11 states with the closest Senate races this year, record amounts of money are being spent on TV commercials that carry common messages. For the Democrats, it is the venerable mantra that it is "time for a change," epitomized cleverly by the codgers spot. Attacking long tenures in Washington is popular, and linking Republicans to President Bush, Big Oil and tax cuts for large corporations seems to be obligatory. For Republicans and their supporters, all confronting a hostile political environment, it is presenting Democratic opponents as profligate taxers and spenders.

In the North Carolina contest alone, more than $34 million was spent on TV commercials for and against Dole and Hagan, according to industry statistics, an amount unprecedented in the state's history. In Oregon, the commercials shown through last week also cost just over $34 million. In Minnesota, the total spent on ads in the battle between Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken was more than $30 million. In Colorado's campaign for an open seat between Rep. Mark Udall (D) and former congressman Bob Schaffer (R), the total spent so far is about $35 million.

If these four states are typical, candidates themselves are spending less money on TV ads than outsiders and party committees. The anti-Dole ads were the work of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which under federal law can make unlimited "independent expenditures" on Hagan's behalf.

In Oregon, Democrat Jeff Merkley had spent just more than $3.2 million on television ads as of last week, and Republican Sen. Gordon Smith had spent about $6.3 million. But the DSCC had chipped in $11 million for commercials attacking Smith or backing Merkley -- a staggering sum that reflects the size of the war chest built this year by Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), chairman of the DSCC. The National Republican Senatorial Committee, by contrast, had spent $5 million on commercials to help Smith.

And there were numerous other players. On the Democratic side, labor groups have spent about $1.2 million on advertisements attacking Smith or supporting Merkley. The Majority Action Fund, an independent expenditure group founded by financier George Soros, has spent nearly $1 million. The Oregon Democratic Party added nearly $700,000. The total from all sources spent on spots to support Merkley was, through last week, just shy of $17 million, far exceeding the total for any previous Senate campaign in the state.

But not greater than the spending on Smith's behalf, which exceeded $17 million. His allies buying TV time include the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (about $1.6 million through last week), a group established by Bush supporters called Freedom's Watch ($2.7 million), and groups opposing organized labor (about $1.5 million).

The anti-Dole spot and two subsequent ones featuring the same codgers "are the shrewdest kind of negative ads that don't appear to be negative, but when it's over, you've gotten popped. You've been entertained, but it really hit you in the head, too," said Ferrel Guillory, director of the Program on Public Life at the University of North Carolina and a former political reporter.

Was the commercial fair? The charge that Dole "ranks 93rd" in effectiveness comes from a little-noticed evaluation by a Washington firm called Knowlegis, which had indeed ranked her 93rd in the Senate. The ad misstated Dole's voting record by four percentage points. According to Congressional Quarterly, she supported Bush on 88 percent of roll-call votes, not 92. According to Guillory, both numbers are now well known in North Carolina, because they have been used so often in anti-Dole commercials paid for by the DSCC.

Dole's commercials return again and again to taxes: "Nothing good comes from raising taxes," she tells voters in her latest commercial. Nearly all of her spots in the final weeks of the campaign attack Hagan. None mentions Dole's party affiliation or any specific plans for the future.

Paul Johnson, a political consultant who is Merkley's chief strategist, said the cacophony of commercials from so many sponsors seriously complicates his job of conveying a coherent message to voters. "It becomes very difficult because there are so many other players involved," he said. "I feel sorry for the voters of Oregon, who are just inundated with commercials."

Brooks Kochvar, manager of Smith's campaign, said that by his calculation, the average Oregon television viewer will see 120 commercials -- "a full hour of television" -- during this last week of the campaign. With so many ads, "it's very difficult for anybody to get a message across," Kochvar said.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is investing more than $35 million in this year's political contests, and it recognizes that some of the money will not produce victory for the Chamber's favored candidates. In Colorado, the Chamber spent nearly $2 million on ads intended to support Schaffer's campaign by raising question about Udall. That effort has been abandoned because "Schaffer is no longer a viable candidate," according to Bill Miller, the Chamber's political director. (Udall has a double-digit lead in recent polls.)

But Miller said the principal purpose of Chamber commercials "is either to create an environment more conducive to moving legislation that we consider important . . . or for educating the public in order to stop bad legislation." So the ads run against Udall did not call for his defeat -- under election law, to remain outside the system of federal regulation, groups such as the Chamber cannot express recommendations on how to vote. And the Chamber's message gets through regardless of what happens in a particular campaign, Miller said.

A typical commercial in Colorado denouncing Udall for opposing offshore oil drilling ended with a picture of him and his office phone number: "Tell Mark Udall we need relief from high gas prices."

The Chamber will continuing to spend heavily in North Carolina and Minnesota until Election Day, Miller said.

The races in North Carolina, Oregon and Minnesota all remain close, ensuring a continuation of the televised barrage until the votes are cast. Only one result is certain: The winners in these states (and in others with hot contests, from New Hampshire to Georgia and Mississippi to New Mexico) will hold some of the most expensive Senate seats in U.S. history.

By Robert G. Kaiser
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by brucie2006 October 28, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
Dole will loose, there will be a clean sweep for the democrats
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by mytoosense October 28, 2008 5:42 PM PDT
www.chilitoz.com is reporting that Sarah Palin has signed a deal with PlayBoy Magazine to posed partially exposed in a future release of the famous nudity magazine in exchange, Heffner will run a multi-million dollar anti Obama add a day before the election.
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Posted by Questi0nnews

If true, that''s a Real Republican ***.

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by mytoosense October 28, 2008 5:43 PM PDT
*** = W ***
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by mytoosense October 28, 2008 5:44 PM PDT
W *** = w h o r e
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by toolmangler-2009 October 28, 2008 5:47 PM PDT
I hear Obama wears women%u2019s underwear too! No thanks!
Posted by TheMasses1 at 05:19 PM : Oct 28, 2008

Obammie is gross. Imagine he and horse-face Michelle in the Oval Office having monkey s(e)x and leaving end trails on the curtains!

Obammie is gross. Imagine he and horse-face Michelle in the Oval Office having monkey *** and leaving end trails on the curtains!
No thanks Obammie!
Posted by TheMasses1 at 05:17 PM : Oct 28, 2008



And this guy/girl/it would have us vote against Obama based on posts like these?

TheMasses1 is the epitome of "Bigotry, filth, Liars and (other words too vulgar to use).
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by liberalme October 28, 2008 5:55 PM PDT
I swear to be a moron to the best of my abilities. I promise to follow other idiots blindly and to undermine the USA whenever possible. If this includes endorsing terrorism, so be it. I will, to the best of my abilities, act as an immoral, racist and cowardly pawn for whoever is raping my party. So help me Satan.

Hiel Hitler Dems!

Nice work!

Posted by TheMasses1 at 05:42 PM : Oct 28, 2008

Awww man, I thought that''s what Bush did when he put his hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution--the man LIED with his hand on the Bible---that''s certainly Satans handi-work!! The plus to all that is he never represented America, he never intended to go after Bin laden (his blood brother)--he is responsible for the deaths of over 400 troops and over 600,000 Iraqi civilians----
Sorry idiot, you''re spewing the Republican pledge of alligence to the party!
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:01 PM PDT
The two recently apprehended skinheads planned to take the hatred and vindictiveness of the McCain/Palin campaign to its final, logical step.

That would be the one step further that Ashley Todd, the white woman campaign operative who made up the story of being mugged and brutalized by a black Obama supporter just three news cycles ago, had also been willing to provoke. (Remember Ashley? PITTSBURGH, Oct. 24 - McCain Worker Made Up Attack Story - To Be Charged With Making False Report).

Rogue actors, sure!

But they have been shown the way, and incited to their actions, by the rhetoric of Sarah Palin and John McCain, - who%u2019s gutter campaign tactics have been bringing just this element to the surface at their rallies these past weeks.

And that is the point.

This McCain-style campaign from the gutter must not be rewarded with victory at the polls, but rather, must be soundly defeated on Nov 4th, election day, just 7 days from today!
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:03 PM PDT
By the way...

Remember Republicans posting about "Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083", seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States?

Let me pass on to the readers of this blog the following info:

This lawsuit has been thrown out of court (i.e., dismissed) as "frivolous and not worthy of discussion", as of Oct. 25th.

If there are more of these bogus law suits in other courts, this decision will become the precedent for tossing them out, too.

Too bad for McCain, but as the old saying goes, when something appears too good to be true, it''s not - same with McCain''s chances this would ever save him from his well-deserved election thrashing in just 7 days.
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by liberalme October 28, 2008 6:05 PM PDT
Born Alive Infants Protection Act: Congress heard testimony about babies that had survived attempted late-term abortions. Nurses testified that these preterm living, breathing babies were being thrown into medical waste bins to die or being "terminated" outside the womb. With the baby now completely separated from the mother, it was impossible to argue that the health or life of the mother was in jeopardy by giving her baby appropriate medical treatment.
Let''''''''s be clear about what Obama did, once in 2003 and twice before that. He effectively voted for infanticide. He voted to allow doctors to deny medically appropriate treatment or, worse yet, actively kill a completely delivered living baby.Obama%u2019s a baby-killer too!? No Thanks!!

Posted by TheMasses1

That has been proven untrue--go to factcheck.org--you really have to stop listening to Faux news, Hannity and Lintball!
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:07 PM PDT
In the last two Bush elections, Big Oil, Big Pharma, and Big Tobacco bankrolled Bush to the hilt. Look at the list in the above article detailing who''s supporting the Republican candidates - anti-labor and anti-union groups, Chamber of Commerce, right-wing fanatics, etc. Yes, they''re all still on board for the Repubs. And again, you hear no complaints from Republicans, as a small oligarchy of corporations try to buy the US Presidency and the US Senate away from 300 million Americans!

They succeeded in 2000 and again in 2004 because we didn''t do enough to support Gore''s & Kerry''s campaigns & help them defeat the Republican sleaze machine.

They lost, and we, the people, lost big time - Republican-made disasters just keep on breaking down on us every day!

So what''s different this year?

Well, we''ve learned from that experience - today, more than 3 million citizens have donated to Obama and to Democratic Party candidates, and tens of thousands are working day & night for Obama.

By the sheer cumulative power of this huge public response, we will enable Obama/Biden to win this campaign, and to beat the sleaze machine of McCain/Palin/Rove & Fox News.

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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:09 PM PDT
In just 7 days, the politics of ploys, stunts, slime, sleazy robocalls, zingers, racial hatred, inciting to violence, and culture wars will be on the ballot!

On Nov. 4th, the politics of Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin, Karl Rove/Steve Schmidt, & Rupert Murdoch%u2019s Fox News (Republican Central), will be defeated.

Americans, remember! We need a huge turnout & a landslide victory, because as we can today see, the Republicans are again trying to steal this election at the polling stations, just like in 2000 & 2004!

People, vote with strength and courage, elect Obama/Biden in overwhelming numbers, and return honesty, decency, and integrity to American politics!

Starting Nov. 5th, we%u2019ll begin the hard work of repairing the immense damage these Republican Party thieves and scoundrels have done to our economy, our country, & our people.
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by relee42 October 28, 2008 6:10 PM PDT
Polls show that half the Alaskan Republicans who know that Ted Stevens is a convicted felon are still going to vote for him. People who vote for convicted felons are aiding criminal behavior. Bush will most likely pardon yet another felon in Ted Stevens. Who says this is a nation of laws?
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:10 PM PDT
The two recently apprehended skinheads planned to take the hatred and vindictiveness of the McCain/Palin campaign to its final, logical step.

That would be the one step further that Ashley Todd, the white woman campaign operative who made up the story of being mugged and brutalized by a black Obama supporter just three news cycles ago, had also been willing to provoke. (Remember Ashley? PITTSBURGH, Oct. 24 - McCain Worker Made Up Attack Story - To Be Charged With Making False Report).

Rogue actors, sure!

But they have been shown the way, and incited to their actions, by the rhetoric of Sarah Palin and John McCain, - who%u2019s gutter campaign tactics have been bringing just this element to the surface at their rallies these past weeks.

And that is the point.

This McCain-style campaign from the gutter must not be rewarded with victory at the polls, but rather, must be soundly defeated on Nov 4th, election day, just 7 days from today!
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by relee42 October 28, 2008 6:12 PM PDT
Ask Elizabeth Dole with cameras and recorders rolling if she would impeach Ted Stevens, should he be elected.
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:15 PM PDT
%u201CJoe the Plumber%u201D unfortunately needed a couple of days to be fully vetted:

Turns out Samuel J. Wurzelbacher (alias McCain%u2019s %u201CJoe the Plumber%u201D) doesn%u2019t have a plumber%u2019s license. Nor did his boss know he was selling his own business to Sam (%u201CJoe%u201D)!

That business is apparently worth less than $100,000, nowhere close to the $250,000.00 %u201CJoe%u201D claimed it was worth in his conversation with Obama (in other words, he %u201Cmisspoke%u201D to us on camera).

Truth is, Samuel (%u201CJoe%u201D) makes about $40,000 a year, has a state tax lien from Ohio for nearly $1,200.00, a second lien for $1,261.00. Not being able to keep up with his own bills, he%u2019s buying a business, right?

The latest is, it turns out that good ol%u2019 Samuel (%u201DJoe%u201D) is a prominent figure on the local right-wing radio station, and a financial donor to the McCain campaign. He%u2019s also shown up on youtube rants attacking Social Security.

As %u201CJoe the Plumber%u201D shows, the media fantasy of Republican operatives is truly amazing!

These McCain operatives obviously believed they could sneak this by the American people, even in this day and age with the internet and 24/7 news cycles.

And McCain uses him as the centerpiece of his campaign!

Who would have thought?

But then who would have thought he''d shoot himself in the foot with "Palin the Rogue"?
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:18 PM PDT
Americans are always willing to listen and learn - it''s one of our greatest strengths!

These past months, we have seen McCain demonstrate, both in the debates, and in the way he has conducted himself and his campaign, that he:

is too slow on his feet, too petty, too erratic, and too cranky to be entrusted with running the USA,

too hung up on old, last-century concepts, military issues, and especially on the war in Iraq,

completely clueless about the lives and plights of his own countrymen and -women,

and completely oblivious to the fact that even his beloved military power is not sustainable if the US as a society continues fragmenting, and falls behind our competitors around the world.

(My goodness, the poor man has even demonstrated trouble counting his houses, condos, and automobiles!)
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
Say "spread the wealth"? Sarah Palin, now worth $1.2 Million, created a new Republican %u201Cno-tax but spend & spread the wealth%u201D model:
no taxes in Alaska (no sales tax, no income tax),hundreds of millions in "socialist welfare" (including thousand dollar checks to all),
including the %u201CBridge to Nowhere%u201D (flip-flopping for it before she was against it!),
even hiring a D.C. lobbying firm to get millions while small-town mayor of Wasilla (pop. 7,000!),
paying for this %u201Cspreadin of the wealth" by boondoggling taxpayers from the %u201Cother 49%u201D for hundreds of millions (%u201CI spend, you pay!%u201D)
and slyly covering her trail by babbling on about %u201Cgovernment get out of my way%u201D in the debate with Biden!

Sarah got creative with her wardrobe, too, spendin lavishly on herself:
$4,716.49 on hair and makeup just through September,
$22,800.00 on makeup Oct. 1-15,
$5,102.71 at Bloomingdale%u2019s New York,
$9,447.71 at Macy%u2019s in Minn.,
$49,425.74 at Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and NY
$75,062.63 in a whopping%u2019spendin spree at Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis (doggone it, she%u2019s goin upscale on us real fast!).

Then there%u2019s $21,012. for her three daughters%u2019 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights (paid by the state of Alaska, admirably provin Palin%u2019s credentials as an equal-opportunity biller)!

Republicans used to belittle former Sen. John Edwards%u2019 $400 haircut, but compared to Palin, that%u2019s chump change!
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by relee42 October 28, 2008 6:23 PM PDT
If Dole supporters aren''t elitist, then what is elitism? No rational human being is going to vote for somebody because they are somebody''s wife. People want action now, not BS.
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:24 PM PDT
Stevens was found guilty in court of ethics violations, which are of course federal felony charges.

Palin was found guilty of ethics violations in the Troopergate affair by her own State legislative investigation.

Palin thinks Stevens should "do the right thing" for Alaska - Sarah - may I presume that you mean by that "he should resign his office", but you are so "heroic and courageous" that you won''t say it?!?

But Sarah - how about you - will you resign your office as Gov. based on your proven ethics violations!

Is what''s good for the gander, also good for the goose?

Or not so much?
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by fbla1805 October 28, 2008 6:31 PM PDT
McCain conveniently left out of his health care proposal his plans for seniors on Medicare - namely the plan McCain economic adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin outlined in a Wall Street Journal article of October 6th - just a few short weeks ago:

McCain/Palin plan to pay for their health plan tax credits through $1.3 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid cuts over 10 years.

That would mean reductions in benefits for Medicare and Medicaid of nearly 30% a year for 10 years. With this plan, retirees living on fixed (or declining) incomes can literally say goodbye to their healthcare benefits.

And, as the figures above show, the 2-year, $52.5 billion sop on capital gains taxes represents just 4 percent (4%!) of the $1.3 Trillion McCain will take out of the pockets and wallets of all retirees over the next 10 years with his Medicare-destruction plan (*read the full article at: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html).

John McCain, any pollster or speech writer who told you this new tactic will work, where all the rest has been tried and has failed, is deceiving you. This won%u2019t work either.

We know you, and we know Sarah Palin, by your words and your deeds these past months. We don%u2019t want you two running our country - in fact, our country can%u2019t take four more years of your failed and broken policies, your inflammatory rhetoric, and your selling the American people for dummies.

John, this time, the jig is up!!!
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by relee42 October 28, 2008 6:34 PM PDT
It is totally disgraceful for Republicans to make up all these bald faced lies about Senator Obama. They can''t even keep the stories straight amongst themselve. Ted Stevens however has been found guilty on seven felony counts, that is a unanimous verdict which required somebody to say he was guilty 84 times. "W" will probably pardon Stevens like
Ford pardoned Nixon, because that is what Republicans do. Will somebody out there in sin city have the guts to ask "W" on camera if he is going to pardon Ted?
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by gotravel1 October 28, 2008 7:35 PM PDT
Let''s all turn on Joe the plumber;let''s see,any American who dares to ask a question of Obama is then pounced on by the media and every Obama supporter.His information was illegally accessed by a democrat,and "smeared".Let''s hear more about Obama/Odinga,Wright,Ayers,Khlaidi and Farrahkan instead of picking on a man trying to make a living.
Anyone hear that Joe Biden told a TV station in PA today that the wealthy are now anyone who makes over $150,000.Just two weeks ago it was $250,000;anyone see a trend here?
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by antoniof123 October 28, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
The swing voters warned the Republican party in 2006 to moderate if they didn''t we would do it for them. So we did and took away their control of congress.

Then we told them to moderate or we would crush them. The blood bath takes place in 2008.

If they still refuse to moderate in 2010 it will be their destruction.

This election we have seen some of the most slanderest ads by the Republican party. Remeber GOP 2010 is only 2 years away.

I bet the 10 or 11 GOP members up for re-election this time around are wishing they didn''t side with the village idiot.

Have a good day.
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by jgg0001 October 28, 2008 11:08 PM PDT
Straight from the Obama campaign:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates

not so fast. Obama reduced that to $200,000 over the weekend, and today Biden said "anyone under $150,000".
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by bunchofchemi October 29, 2008 1:21 AM PDT
The Senate is a huge prize. The last time a party had 58 or more Senators was in the Jimmy Carter days, and many of them were conservative Southern Democrats who were more like the conservative Southern Republicans of today. The Republicans lost 6 seats last time, and this time are likely to lose 6-10 more. That is a remarkable change.
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by irmcvet97 October 29, 2008 6:34 AM PDT
Posted by NEEDERBAUR at 11:28 PM : Oct 28, 2008


Why don''t you take your bigoted racist LIES someplace else? You are truly a disgusting person!
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by misha128-2009 October 29, 2008 7:58 AM PDT
Straight from the Obama campaign:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates

not so fast. Obama reduced that to ...

Posted by jgg0001 at 11:08 PM

Wrong the other figures have other meanings and the first line remains true.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
Both NUCLEAR PROGRAMS within RUSSIA and CHINA were initiated by the MASONS/FREE MASONS! The head of the MANHATTAN PROJECT was a COMMUNIST! The scientist that started the NUCLEAR PROGRAM in CHINA was from and trained within the UNITED STATES (WEST COAST). This CHINESE individual supposedly stole are NUCLEAR SECRETS, and then he, said individual, was merely deported back to CHINA with all the said secrets that were supposedly stolen--no prison time whatsoever! This was all in the newspapers and the news.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
Currently, the MASONS/FREE MASONS rule the world. Until July 2006, the MASONS/FREE MASONS were the "RIGHT HAND OF THE COUNSEL OF TEN"! The MASONS/FREE MASONS own every major corporation and almost the entire banking system (FEDERAL RESERVE and THE EUROPEAN BANK)! All three (3) branches of GOVERNMENT, within the UNITED STATES, are controlled and ran by the MASONS/FREE MASONS! All of EUROPE and part of RUSSIA are controlled by the MASONS/FREE MASONS! Currently, CHINA is starting to break away and go rouge! Russia has been controlled to some degree by the MASONS/FREE MASONS, since the CZAR was removed. China was controlled by the MASONS/FREE MASONS, starting after WORLD WAR II.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
MORE STUFF:

The MASONS are the clue as to the forehead of the "SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTE" located in REVELATIONS 17. Since the MASONS are of the SIXTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON, there is no longer any MYSTERY (MYSTERY BABYLON)! Furthermore, the only time GOD calls a NATION a "spiritual prostitute" is in the OLD TESTAMENT (NORTHERN and SOUTHERN KINGDOMS OF ISRAEL). GOD used the UNITED STATES, starting during the early part of the 20 CENTURY, to perpetuate the KINGDOM OF GOD. The first time that this occurred was when GOD tried to use ISRAEL to do the job (OLD TESTAMENT)! Therefore, the UNITED STATES is the "SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTE" within REVELATIONS 17! There is additional proof located in REVELATIONS 17 and 18.

During 2006, there was a lot of individuals stating that EZEKIEL 38 was about to occur. EZEKIEL 38 could not occur until the UNITED STATES was destroyed. The clue is within EZEKIEL 38:11. EZEKIEL 38:11 shows that ISRAEL is left all alone. The UNITED STATES is the protector of ISRAEL. Therefore, the UNITED STATES is removed prior to EZEKIEL 38. EZEKIEL 39 proves that RUSSIA is the second HORN to be removed (BOOK OF DANIEL)!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:03 PM PDT
Bottom line, President Bush was going to invade IRAN during 2006. This was inevitable. The prophecies and the evidence proves this. Furthermore, neither GOD nor the said COUNSEL OF TEN could "delay" judgment (entire OLD TESTAMENT). GOD could only sustain judgment or overturn judgment, given LEGAL or "JUST CAUSE" (BOOK OF JONAH)! The judgment of GOD was changed during July 2006, when GOD''S LAW was changed by GOD. I was there!!!!! GOD used me to change the law based on a prior legal precedent, legal precedent prior to LUCIFER''S fall. I am a COUNSEL MEMBER of the ORIGINAL TWELVE (12).
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!

In Revelations 13 we find the number 666. Six (6) years after 2006 (66), the anti-christ (a man (6)) will initiate the end (666). The anti-christ was supposed to rise in Europe, after the destruction of the UNITED STATES (DANIEL (ABSTRACT)).

When Lucifer fell, ten of the original counsel members fell, including Lucifer. REVELATIONS 13 and 17 prove this. The beast is "DARKNESS" in general. The TEN HORNS are the "COUNSEL OF TEN", established about 2000 years ago, after GOD released the other nine (9) from the abyss.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:06 PM PDT
THE NEW STUFF:

The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!

In Revelations 13 we find the number 666. Six (6) years after 2006 (66), the anti-christ (a man (6)) will initiate the end (666). The anti-christ was supposed to rise in Europe, after the destruction of the UNITED STATES (DANIEL (ABSTRACT)).

When Lucifer fell, ten of the original counsel members fell, including Lucifer. REVELATIONS 13 and 17 prove this. The beast is "DARKNESS" in general. The TEN HORNS are the "COUNSEL OF TEN", established about 2000 years ago, after GOD released the other nine (9) from the abyss.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:07 PM PDT
The SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON is the "EUROPEAN UNION"/NEW ROMAN EMPIRE, under the anti-christ for seven years. For the said SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON to occur, three (3) "HORNS" have to be removed (BOOK OF DANIEL/BIBLE). First HORN is the UNITED STATES (REVELATIONS 17 and 18). The second HORN to go is Russia and the NEAR EAST/MIDDLE EAST (EZEKIEL 39). The third HORN is China that is partially destroyed in the interim to meet the anti-christ in ISRAEL--starting December 10, 2012. GOD will reappear sometime after 2013 in ISRAEL form the sky (seven years/BOOK OF DANIEL)! Only GOD knows the exact hour of GOD''S coming!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
During the FOURTEENTH CENTURY, after the KING OF FRANCE and THE POPE declared a HOLY WAR on the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR went underground. Then, the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR went to England and Ireland. The KNIGHTS TEMPLAR called themselves, at this point, the FREE MASONS. While in England, they utilized HENRY THE EIGHTH to establish an alternative religion as to the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

The FREE MASONS hired NAPOLEON and started a WAR IN FRANCE, and then started removing the CATHOLIC strong hold over Europe.

The FREE MASONS/MASONS hired HITLER to finish the job in Europe to lay the foundation for the SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:09 PM PDT
DO NOT ERASE THE PROOF. STUDY THE PROOF.

THE SEVEN KINGDOMS OF BABYLON (DANIEL (BIBLE) CHAPTER 2):

FIRST KINGDOM OF BABYLON=BABYLON (ABOUT 2,600 YEARS AGO)

SECOND KINGDOM OF BABYLON=BABYLON (SON OF THE KING (SILVER))

THIRD KINGDOM OF BABYLON=MEEDS AND PERSIONS (BRONZE)

FOURTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON=GREEKS (LEGS OF IRON)

FIFTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON=ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE (UNTIL 312 A.D.)

SIXTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON=ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH (STARTING 312 A.D. BY CONSTANTINE/ROMAN PAGAN GENERAL/FIRST SUPPOSED CHRISTIAN EMPEROR OF ROME)

SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON=NEW ROMAN EMPIRE/EUROPEAN UNION (SUPPOSED TO START 2006 FOR SEVEN YEARS)

You already know about the SEVEN KINGDOMS OF BABYLON (BOOK OF DANIEL CHAPTER 2). Currently, we are in the SIXTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON, which was started by CONSTANTINE during 312 A.D. (PAGAN ROMAN GENERAL/SUPPOSED FIRST CHRISTIAN EMPEROR). The SIXTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON is the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. The KNIGHTS TEMPLAR are a subdivision of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
YOU MASONS/SKULLS ARE REALLY INTELLIGENT! YOU WANT TO GIVE-UP HEAVEN FOR A FAR WORSE HELL BY DESTROYING THE "KEY"! YOU WANT TO CREATE A SIGNIFICANT MESS BY FORCING THE SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON! YOU WANT TO ERASE THE FOREGOING PROOF THAT GOD CHANGED GOD''S LAW DURING JULY 2006! REALLY INTELLIGENT MASONS/SKULLS!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
MORE STUFF:

THREE HORNS HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR THE SEVENTH KINGDOM TO BE REALIZED (DANIEL (BIBLE)):

FIRST HORN=UNITED STATES (Revelations chapters 17 and 18)

SECOND HORN=RUSSIA and NEAR EAST/MIDDLE EAST (Ezekeil chapters 38 and 39)

THIRD HORN=CHINA that is partially destroyed in the interim to rebuild and meet the anti-christ in ISRAEL, starting December 10, 2012.
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
EVEN MORE STUFF:

RUSSIA AND CHINA WERE THE TWO (2) NATIONS THAT WERE GOING TO NUKE THE UNITED STATES UPON THE INVASION OF IRAN DURING 2006.

Currently, CHINA is going rouge, and RUSSIA is NOT the same anymore!

Currently, the alignment of Ezekiel 38 is NOT right either. This is absolutely required for the proper transition to the SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON! During 2006, the alignment was absolutely perfect!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:34 PM PDT
By the way, THE UNITED STATES is also mentioned in the BOOK of DANIEL chapter 7:4 (ABSTRACT)! The UNITED STATES is THE SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTE in REVELATIONS chapter 17! This is an absolute fact! Everything matches perfectly! Study this before criticizing this in ignorance!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:48 PM PDT
Another thing, I am the "KEY"!

I am actually the only MORTAL "COUNSEL MEMBER" of the original TWELVE COUNSEL MEMBERS! Furthermore, I have met, during my lifetime, the other ELVEN COUNSEL MEMBERS, including THE COUNSEL OF TEN!

Yes, I have actually met Lucifer, in ORANGE COUNTY, Ca., while Lucifer was in humanoid form! No, I can NOT state what Lucifer''s EARTHLY identity is. This is absolutely prohibited by the arrangement setforth in the abyss about 7000 years ago between GOD and THE COUNSEL OF TEN.

GOD devided the immortals in half about 7000 years ago. Part were to become mortals and the other part remained immortals. Thus, putting the immortals against the mortals creating HELL on EARTH! Currently, since God changed GOD''S LAW (July 2006), technically there is NO HELL anymore!
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by dr_know777 October 29, 2008 5:50 PM PDT
Another thing, I am the "KEY"!

I am actually the only MORTAL "COUNSEL MEMBER" of the original TWELVE COUNSEL MEMBERS! Furthermore, I have met, during my lifetime, the other ELEVEN COUNSEL MEMBERS, including THE COUNSEL OF TEN!

Yes, I have actually met Lucifer, in ORANGE COUNTY, Ca., while Lucifer was in humanoid form! No, I can NOT state what Lucifer''''s EARTHLY identity is. This is absolutely prohibited by the arrangement setforth in the abyss about 7000 years ago between GOD and THE COUNSEL OF TEN.

GOD devided the immortals in half about 7000 years ago. Part were to become mortals and the other part remained immortals. Thus, putting the immortals against the mortals creating HELL on EARTH! Currently, since God changed GOD''''S LAW (July 2006), technically there is NO HELL anymore!
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