INDIANAPOLIS, Oct. 23, 2008

Obama Goes On Offense In Indiana

Before Trip To Hawaii, Democrat Says McCain Is "Putting Corporations Ahead Of Workers"

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(AP)  Democrat Barack Obama moved from defense to offense Thursday as he characterized Republican John McCain's approach to taxes as nothing more than "putting corporations ahead of workers."

Looking out at a sea of 35,000 people who crammed a downtown park on a chilly day, the Democratic presidential candidate noted blue-collar and manufacturing workers in the audience who waited hours to see him. They face disappearing jobs in this traditionally Republican state which has both a Rust Belt economy and rural areas.

"That's whose president I want to be," he yelled, getting rousing cheers in response.

With stock markets diving, unemployment rising and Indiana alone losing 4,500 jobs in September, Obama argued that the country cannot afford a President McCain who "thinks the economic policies of George W. Bush are just right for America."

"He made kind of a strange argument that the best way to stop companies from shipping jobs overseas is to give more tax cuts to companies that are shipping jobs overseas," Obama said of his opponent. "More tax cuts for job outsourcers. That's what Sen. McCain proposed as his answer to outsourcing."

Over recent days, McCain has kept up a drumbeat of criticisms of Obama's tax plans. He's said the Democrat would hand out "welfare" because even people who pay no taxes would receive a $500 tax credit. He also has said Obama's entire plan amounts to socialistic tax redistribution policies.

Though Obama has appeared to gain an edge in the race for the White House amid the economic turmoil, some polls show McCain could be gaining ground with his aggressive message.

In response, Obama has been devoting more and more of his campaign stump speech to point-by-point rebuttals of McCain's criticisms. He notes his tax proposals would reverse cuts passed during the Bush administration for the wealthiest taxpayers and use the revenue to cut taxes for workers earning less than $250,000 a year. Obama says that means a tax cut for 95 percent of taxpayers. McCain wants to extend all the Bush-era tax cuts, including those for wealthier Americans, and says allowing any to expire would amount to a tax increase.

On Thursday, keeping up a schedule that has had him exclusively in states that voted Republican in 2004, Obama continued defending his plans - but also unleashed a sharp counterattack against McCain over corporate taxes.

McCain proposes cutting the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent, while Obama would raise corporate taxes to help pay for tax cuts for everyone earning under $250,000 a year.

Obama referred to comments by McCain in a CNN interview on Wednesday that "it's simple fundamental economics" that American companies would shift operations to other countries with lower tax rates.

"Well, Indiana, my opponent may call that "fundamental economics,"' Obama said, "but we know that's just another name for Wall Street first, Main Street last. That's the kind of economic philosophy we've had for the past eight years and that's just fundamentally wrong."

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He went on to say that McCain is wrong on free-trade policies that would "protect the profits of multinational corporations" and on a tax code influenced by corporate lobbyists. "That's the system he wants to preserve," Obama said. "He wants to keep on putting corporations ahead of workers."

Indiana, which has 11 electoral votes, hasn't backed a Democrat for president since 1964. But polls show a tight race between McCain and Obama.

After the rally, Obama was scheduled to fly to Hawaii to see his ailing grandmother, 85-year-old Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him. Dunham was recently released from the hospital and was said to be gravely ill after breaking a hip.

Obama was to spend Thursday night and most of Friday with her before resuming campaigning Saturday in Nevada.

Obama said the decision to go to Hawaii was easy to make, telling CBS News that he "got there too late" when his mother died of ovarian cancer in 1995 at age 53, and wants now to make sure "that I don't make the same mistake twice."

"My grandmother's the last one left," he told Harry Smith on The Early Show.

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by repforbarack October 23, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
McLame would put Corporations before his own mother.
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by yellow651 October 23, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
What a dope. Socialism is when you take from those who have and give to those who don''t. The Bush tax cuts didn''t take from the poor and give to the rich, they made the amount taken from the rich more fair and didn''t decrease anything for the poor. Did Obama flunk math and government studies?
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by herb222 October 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
Robert Wurzelbacher was an exec of American Continental Corp., the parent company of
Charles Keating''''''''s Lincoln Savings. That''''''''s the bank that failed causing many to lose their life savings and cost US taxpayers $4.3 billion.
The nation''''''''s newest celeb Joe the Plumber is a fraud. A possible GOP plant, "Joe" is related to Charles Keating of The Keating 5 bank scandal that rocked John McCain!
Joe Wurzelbacher is the son of Robert Wurzelbacher - the son-in-law of Charles Keating - The Charles Keating of the Keating 5 scandal - for which Sen. John McCain was reprimanded by the Senate for his part in attempting to illegally influence government regulators.................
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by mn91168 October 23, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
Let''s see, how many Obama supporters really understand issues? Hmmmmm....not many from what i hear all over Downtown Orlando. If Obama is elected, and that would be disconcerting in so many ways, let''s see what his supporters blame things on then, maybe the black voters voting for him just because of race or ultra-liberals who just want to *** and moan because either thier life hasn''t turned out well or because it has due to Republican idealism and they just want to feel like "one of the people" whatever that means anymore!
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by repforbarack October 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
For about a week now Obama has been announcing that he is speeding to the bedside of his dying grandma. Boy, he sure is taking the long way to Hawaii.
Of course the press is giving him a great big sympathy hug while he does his "Dying Grandma" tour.
This guy is as fake as they come.
Posted by ritewingman


That or you can''t read. He''s been scheduled to leave on Thursday from the beginning. Nothing''s changed
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by repforbarack October 23, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
The empty suit nobama throws LIES around like Ayers throwing handgrenades. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Posted by pmsnbc2


How does it feel to be such a loser nazi boy?
The days of the neocon are OVER!
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by gop_will_win October 23, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
Well corporations should be put ahead of the people. Otherwise we would be a socialist country.
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by repforbarack October 23, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
"Indiana people aren''''t buying his"
Posted by FromTexwLove


You should read up...seems they are now...last time was 1964
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by repforbarack October 23, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
"really an Arabic/Muslim"
Posted by FromTexwLove


I don''t get it...even your master McCain has said this isn''t true. Even if he was...why is it a problem?
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by pattywagon4 October 23, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
TIRED OF MEAN REPUBLICANS AND MEAN DEMOCRATS! VOTE FOR OBAMA AND BIDEN, MEAN POLITICS STOP NOV 2008
TAKE THE HIGH ROAD! VOTE WITH ME AND LETS OPEN THE DOOR TO REAL CHANGE THAT HELPS EVERYONE!LETS BE GOOD SAMARITANS TO THE POOR, LETS BE GOOD HONEST AMERICANS LOOK OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. URGE EVERYONE WHO READS THIS TO DONATE ONE ITEM TO YOUR LOCAL FOOD PANTRY, WEATHER OR NOT YOU ARE DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE. LETS BE AMERICANS TOGETHER!
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by FHMullane October 23, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
How Many McCain supporters really understand anything. Seems the people with the least money don''t get it... McCain is NOT their friend.. He is pulling the wool over their eyes. They are un educated and don''t get it.

The BASE is a joke...

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by October 23, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
Ayers

Wright

Rezko

ACORN

Kha
lidi


Voters dismissed Clinton''''''''s philandering even though they knew about it before the election. LIBS screamed so what! Then WHAM!

With nobama it will be BOOM!





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Posted by pmsnbc2 at 04:44 PM : Oct 23, 2008

SOS, different day
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by shortestfuse October 23, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
Wait a minute? Obama is in Indiana? I thought he was heading to Hawaii? Is someone else going to take care of his birth certificate, I mean, his beloved grandmother?
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
Wait a minute? Obama is in Indiana? I thought he was heading to Hawaii? Is someone else going to take care of his birth certificate, I mean, his beloved grandmother?

Posted by shortestfuse at 05:04 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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He stopped off in Indiana to check up on McCain Panama Birth Certificate.
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
Even Indiana democraps in the primary were telling Oslime-a to get on his camel and ride out.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 04:55 PM : Oct 23, 2008





All I can say, is that one of the VERY FEW states that Hillary won, is now going strongly behind Obama.

Even republican strongholds are switching!!
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
Posted by TheMasses1 at 05:04 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Yawn. You McLiverspot nutballs have been screeching since Day One. Its why Obama is stomping you in the polls.
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by joker1944-2009 October 23, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
Why is it every time I hear of such low life un-American acts, it''s always Demoturds doing them???

Posted by AFactJack at 05:02 PM : Oct 23, 2008

Events that happen only your twisted and disordered mind don''t count. Just because you believe it, that doesn''t make it true.

I assume you''re trying to be comical here. At least I hope you are.
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
Even Indiana democraps in the primary were telling Oslime-a to get on his camel and ride out.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 04:55 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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your Fem Mullet must still be wet. Can''t you cast a spell and dry it out?
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by shortestfuse October 23, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
He stopped off in Indiana to check up on McCain Panama Birth Certificate.

Posted by wherenextnow

McCain has an act of Congress behind his credentials. Obama''s got a bunch of lies behind him. Hmmm... I wonder which one can be believed?
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by notblue October 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
wherenextnow, todays polls show the race a dead heat. So what was your point again?
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
McCain has an act of Congress behind his credentials. Obama''''s got a bunch of lies behind him. Hmmm... I wonder which one can be believed?

Posted by shortestfuse at 05:07 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Obama.
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
McCain has an act of Congress behind his credentials. Obama''''s got a bunch of lies behind him. Hmmm... I wonder which one can be believed?

Posted by shortestfuse at 05:07 PM : Oct 23, 2008





An act of congress?!?!

You mean that someone FINALLY found something that he accomplished in his 26 years in Washington?!?!
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by turkeyleg58 October 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
ALL YOU BONEHEADS OUT THERE THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT OBAMA GOING TO VISIT HIS GRANDMOTHER WHILE SHE IS GRAVELY ILL, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY IF HE DID NOT GO VISIT HER, "LIKE HE IS TO AMBITIOUS CANNOT TAKE TIME OUT TO CHECK ON HER." YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE AND HAVE SOME SYMPATHY, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER THAT WAS ILL, YOU WOULD NOT WANT ANYONE BASHING YOU FOR VISITING HER. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE A CORNER ON THE MARKET FOR LOVING YOUR GRANDPARENTS THIS MUCH. IF YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT HIS DECISION TO FLY TO HAWAII, WHY NOT REFRAIN FROM YOUR SELFISH, SELF-SERVING COMMENTS.
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
wherenextnow, todays polls show the race a dead heat. So what was your point again?

Posted by notblue at 05:08 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Wrong. next.

Rasmussen Reports 10/20 - 10/22 3000 LV 2.0 52 45 Obama +7
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/20 - 10/22 2384 LV 2.0 50 46 Obama 4
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/20 - 10/22 2299 LV 2.0 51 45 Obama 6
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 10/20 - 10/22 1208 LV 2.9 52 40 Obama 12
Hotline/FD 10/20 - 10/22 769 LV 3.5 48 43 Obama 5
FOX News 10/20 - 10/21 936 LV 3.0 49 40 Obama 9
ABC News/Wash Post 10/19 - 10/22 1335 LV 2.5 54 43 Obama 11
IBD/TIPP 10/18 - 10/22 1088 LV 3.0 45 44 Obama 1
GWU/Battleground 10/16 - 10/22 1000 LV 3.1 49 45 Obama 4
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 2.9 52 42 Obama 10
Associated Press/GfK 10/16 - 10/20 800 LV 3.5 44 43 Obama 1
Ipsos/McClatchy 10/16 - 10/20 773 LV 3.5 50 42 Obama 8
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 764 LV 3.5 51 46 Obama 5
Pew Research 10/16 - 10/19 2382 LV 2.5 53 39 Obama 14
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by questionnews October 23, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
FromTexwLove

FYI
The person that uses this CBS board for free promotion of his www.chilitoz.com website has hijacked your name along with several others (Mine included)
Thought you might be interested.
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by credibility2 October 23, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
What happened to this woman is indicative of the low life criminal uncivilized barbaric element that has permeated Obama''s bid for the presidency. With regard to Obama''s Indy stump, once again he is spinning McCain''s plan by lying and deliberately falsifying the tax aspect for those that received a reduction under Bush. McCain wants to leave them in place. Hey, Obama this isn''t a tax cut. You, however, want to rescind them and actually cause an increase. So, McCain isn''t going to give a tax break to the CEO at what Obama quotes as $700k. Why don''t you get the facts straight Obama, or is it too much to ask for honesty, facts and truth. And, why are you going to incur major expenses to the city of Chicago for your outdoor grandiose gathering that will cost well over one million; big deal, you''ve offered to pay for most of it, but the facts remain that Chicago will get stuck with a major headache and response. Mayor Daley suggested having the event in a controlled environment like the United Center, but I guess even that is too small a venue for your ginormous ego.
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by notblue October 23, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
Evryone knows McCain, he has a history in politics that goes back 26 years, Obama''s history? 143 days! Who is this Obama cat? All we get is what''s spoon fed, no history.
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
wherenextnow, todays polls show the race a dead heat. So what was your point again?

Posted by notblue at 05:08 PM : Oct 23, 2008




What poll said that?!?!

Fox News / NRO / Weekly Standard?

Hell, even THEY know McLoser is down by double digits!!

Here''s one for you:

http://www.bigtenpoll.org/
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
Then I guess he made a wasteful stop since McCain has already produced his birth certificate.

Reckon why Oslime-a hasn''''t?

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:09 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Yawn. Yes he did. Hawaii certified it. End of Story. Next.

Go cast a spell Rowdy....HAHAHAHA!
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
Then I guess he made a wasteful stop since McCain has already produced his birth certificate.

Reckon why Oslime-a hasn''''t?

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:09 PM : Oct 23, 2008





McCain produced NOTHING - he had the lawsuit dismissed.
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
Your Oslime-a vulgarity is typical of his supporters and their brainwaves. It epitomizes you into the category of hormonal idiots.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:11 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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This coming form you sweet pea? What a hoot!
HAHAHAHA!
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by notblue October 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
whernextnow I see the AP poll shows 43 42, all the unbiased polls are statistical dead heats. Why when Obama has four times the money, has spent four times the amount of McCain and is running after two Bush terms he is not largely in the lead? Ever asked yourself that? Alfred E.Neuman could have won by a landslide this time around yet Obama is virtually tied, what does that say about the Dems choice? LOL!
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
Evryone knows McCain, he has a history in politics that goes back 26 years, Obama''''s history? 143 days! Who is this Obama cat? All we get is what''''s spoon fed, no history.

Posted by notblue at 05:10 PM : Oct 23, 2008





26 years in Washington, and NO RECORD of accomplishments.

The only way that we really know he was there, is the cashed pay checks.
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
McCain''s Birth Abroad Stirs Legal Debate
His Eligibility for Presidency Is Questioned

By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 2, 2008; Page A06
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by aj4321-2009 October 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
Why don''''t you get the facts straight Obama, or is it too much to ask for honesty, facts and truth.

Posted by Credibility2 at 05:10 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Are you staying away from any metal rods? You maybe struck by a lightning.

If you want to talk about honesty and honor - talk about McCain supporters calling Obama "terrorist" and "off with his head".
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
Polls don''''t count. ONly votes do.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:12 PM : Oct 23, 2008




That''s what Hillary said!!

LOL!!!
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
Article II of the Constitution states that "no person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of president." The problem is that the Founding Fathers never defined exactly what they meant by "natural born citizen," and the matter has never been fully tested in court. At least three pending cases are challenging McCain''s right to be sworn in as president.
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:17 PM EDT

Nope, his birth certficate was attached to support the fact there was no standing in the court, unlike Oslime-a.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:15 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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A Panama Birth Certificate. Next.
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by joker1944-2009 October 23, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
wherenextnow, todays polls show the race a dead heat. So what was your point again?

Posted by notblue at 05:08 PM : Oct 23, 2008

Oh, are you referring to the AP poll where 45% of the participants were evangelicals?

McCain is getting creamed. No amount of flawed polling or wishful thinking will change that.
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by shortestfuse October 23, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
which showed that he was born in PANAMA and that Melanoma Mclamely is therefore a Panamanian not an american

Posted by cause_x

Typical Dumbocrat ignorance. McCain (along with other children born to military parents) has US citizenship by an act of Congress.
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by lovegetpeace October 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
Folks,
I recently found out why Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 and 2003 were never made PERMANENT by the Republican Controlled Congress.

These Tax Cuts where made to expire next year because the Republican Congress believed these Tax Cuts are Harmful to the Economy. Therefore, the Republican Congress wanted to limit the Negative Impact to our Economy.

This is why these Tax Cuts were never made Permanent in the 1st place by the Republican Congress and ofcourse President Bush.
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
whernextnow I see the AP poll shows 43 42, all the unbiased polls are statistical dead heats. Why when Obama has four times the money, has spent four times the amount of McCain and is running after two Bush terms he is not largely in the lead? Ever asked yourself that? Alfred E.Neuman could have won by a landslide this time around yet Obama is virtually tied, what does that say about the Dems choice? LOL!

Posted by notblue at 05:13 PM : Oct 23, 2008





That''s been asked and answered several times. Try to keep up.

Many of Obama''s supporters are young - they either live at home still, or if they do have their own place, they don''t have landlines - they have cell phones only as is so popular with the younger generation. Cell phones typically aren''t called for polling purposes.

Hillary found that out the hard way, when Obama beat the polls consistently by 10 points or more.

If the polls are showing Obama with a 7 point lead, and history holds true, (from this past spring), then expect Obama to win by 17 points or more.
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
Obama supporters are carving B into McCain Supporters. I dont see a CBS storie on this. DO you??

I never thought I would see where americans have to be afraid of free speech. Welcome to the Obama Nation.

Posted by wntrpls at 05:16 PM : Oct 23, 2008




Typical neo con.

He thinks that EVERY OBAMA SUPPORTER, is a knife wielding mugger.

What an idiot!!
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
Still thinking with the brain below your waist I see, can''t seem to get up above your waist can ya?

Your Oslime-a vulgarity is typical of his supporters and their brainwaves. It epitomizes you into the category of hormonal idiots.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:18 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Maybe you could cast a spell and make me stop RowdyWiccan. Do Jesus and the Republicans know you practice witchcraft?
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by airboatboy1 October 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
Has McCain finally lost it completely? Have you ever seen anyone be so hung up on something like "Joe the plumber?" He''s turned to this as the main theme for his campaign? He''s gettin'' wackier by the day!
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by grouchyjohn October 23, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
Yeah and she smoked his arse by 300,000 votes that Oslime-a paid off the DNC to ignore.

Posted by FromTexwLove at 05:17 PM : Oct 23, 2008




Yeah - that''s it.

Keep believing that as you''re swallowing your meds.....
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by notblue October 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
grouchyjojn, the ap shows 1 point difference. You know Assosiated Press.
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by lilajimok October 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
I am really curious, if Barack Obama had turned out to be able to "pass" for white [he is biracial you know] ... how would be be referring to his race? Don''t you see how lame you all are? Why some white people think they can act like black people are "different" or whatever goes on in their minds is beyond me. Grow up, guys, you are belittling yourselves and our Country. Barack Obama will be a great President, white, black, purple, green or whatever color you like to see him or yourselves!!! (Oh, for the record, I am white, and sometimes not too proud of it!]
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by wherenextnow October 23, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
Obama supporters are carving B into McCain Supporters. I dont see a CBS storie on this. DO you??

I never thought I would see where americans have to be afraid of free speech. Welcome to the Obama Nation.

Posted by wntrpls at 05:16 PM : Oct 23, 2008
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Yawn. You cry now, but you weren''t crying when Bush Supporters were shouting down anybody that opposed them.

Give it a rest Sweet Pea.
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by lovegetpeace October 23, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
Posted by notblue at 05:13 PM : Oct 23, 2008

When Obama is ahead, the NeoCons say ''the polls are liberals''

When a poll shows a close race, the NeoCons are Smart.
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