SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 22, 2008
Bipartisan Consensus? Taxpayers Beware
Declan McCullagh Says Despite Proposals For Another Round Of Economic Stimulus, Americans Will Pay One Way Or Another
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If you're an American taxpayer, the most worrisome seven words in the English language may be "a bipartisan consensus has emerged in Washington."
That's what seems to be happening with $300 billion of proposed stimulus spending that congressional Democrats have championed. They got a boost this week when Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke said it was "appropriate" for Congress to consider the plan.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi invoked that endorsement to pressure the White House. "I call on President Bush and congressional Republicans to once again heed Chairman Bernanke's advice and ... work with Democrats in Congress to enact a targeted, timely, and fiscally responsible economic recovery and job creation package," Pelosi said. (See related video on CBSNews.com.)
President Bush and other Republicans had been skeptical of another round of bailout-related spending. But after Bernanke's remarks, Bush's press secretary told reporters the president might be open to such a proposal.
Details of the plan are still unclear. Some likely components include more public works spending, more unemployment benefits, more Medicare spending, more food stamps, and more "stimulus checks" akin to checks mailed earlier this year to some taxpayers.
It's not clear that another $300 billion of more deficit spending - more than six times the size of the Department of Homeland Security's 2009 budget request - is wise or necessary.
Washington's current bipartisan consensus says that deficits don't matter. The size of the national debt supposedly doesn't matter. Neither does the cost of the Iraq war, which one book puts at $3 trillion. Or the price tag on any bailouts.
In reality, though, U.S. taxpayers will be forced to pick up the tab one way or another, either through taxes to pay for interest on government bonds, or through higher inflation (a regressive tax that harms the poor more than the affluent).
At the dawn of Bill Clinton's presidency, government debt was $4.3 trillion, and increased by only $1.4 trillion in eight years. Now, thanks to the bipartisan enthusiasm for spending in Congress, the debt limit has been lifted to $11.3 trillion -- and the debt itself has ballooned to
$10.3 trillion, not counting future Social Security and Medicare payments.
The price of this whopping government debt is that taxpayers have been paying over $450 billion a year in interest. Soon that will exceed $500 billion.
If politicians had not run up the nation's credit card, income taxes could be almost 40 percent lower. Eliminating congressional pork and other pet spending projects could slice taxes even further. (The IRS collects $1.37 trillion a year in individual income taxes; only $860 billion would be required without interest payments.)
That's approximately as likely as the New York Times endorsing John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Because Democrats hope to enact their $300 billion spending bill soon after the November 4 election, Bush enjoys some temporary leverage. If he and other Republicans can't defeat the bill, they should insist on preventative measures that would reduce the odds of a second financial calamity.
One option is to gradually privatize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and eliminate any implicit or explicit taxpayer subsidy. That's been contemplated by the Congressional Budget Office and endorsed by the American Enterprise Institute. A 2006 study published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston found "no evidence" that Fannie and Freddie's existence helped low-income and first-time homebuyers.
In the past, opposition from Fannie and Freddie executives and their allies on Capitol Hill would have thwarted privatization. This is the best chance for reform in a generation.
Another option is to fix regulations that encourage banks to divvy up mortgages through a process called "securitization."
Arnold Kling, a Freddie Mac senior economist turned blogger, notes the perverse incentives that created such a securitization frenzy. The FDIC allows a bank to hold less capital against (that is, take more risks with) low-down payment subprime mortgages that it bought from someone else than it can with high-down-payment mortgages that bank employees sold to longtime, trusted customers.
Any post-election bailout or "stimulus" bill should include real reforms. We'll soon see if Washington's bipartisan consensus is up to the task.
Declan McCullagh is the chief political correspondent for CNET. He previously was Wired's Washington bureau chief and a reporter for Time.com and Time magazine in Washington, D.C. He has taught journalism, public policy, and First Amendment law. He is an occasional programmer, avid analog and digital photographer, and lives in the San Francisco Bay area. His e-mail address is declan.mccullagh@cnet.com
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Who cares about the future, this is an election year...let''s spend...
Posted by gop_will_win at 09:24 AM : Oct 22, 2008
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Bush/McCain apologists never cease to amaze me.
Here they are, flagrantly spouting EXACTLY what this republican administration has so glaringly demonstrated for the past 8 years, albeit with a willing democratic congressional leadership, (Pelosi and Reid) for the past two.
When, gop_will_win says, all I care about is me, he/she is not joking.
Everybody blames Congress for all the pork spending when in actual fact congressional representatives are simply BUYING their constituents votes with pork barrel bribes. This is precisely why congressmen/women stay in office forever and get away with so much corruption.
Senator Stevens is a classic example of this.
Almost everyone in America now views Stevens as a corrupt politician that should be voted out of office, if not actually imprisoned.
That is, every body EXECPT Alaskans (it is possible that, given the immense publicity, Stevens may be finished in Alaska too)''
Voters are the same everywhere; they would vote to kick out every representative in congress, except those from their own state.
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Posted by Latrocin0r at 09:56 AM : Oct 22, 2008
You guys are getting anoying with this.
gop_wil_win, I didn''t go through wal mart buying chinese stuff with my last rebate, I went straight to Mexico and spent it on dental work I couldn''t afford in the USA.
Posted by at 11:22 AM : Oct 22, 2008
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Credibility2;~~~ you''re just a bit too late, that has already happened under the presemnt, McCain supported, Bush administration.
Posted by john43218 at 10:47 AM : Oct 22, 2008
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McCain has experience in Backing Bush 100% in the Iraq fiasco, MORE than 90% in the present economic situation, and in addition, he spent less tghan a week as a POW before caving in to the Vietcong and giving them military information in exchange for injuries he received when his plane was shot down.
There are pictures of him in his hospital bed in Vietnam , 4 days after being captured, showing absolutely no signs of torture.
I do not fault McCain so much for caving in as I do for using his POW status as a blank check for his political career.
Many, if not most, people would give in to torture in situations like that, BUT, no true hero would sell his honor and integrity for political gain.
As for keeping us out of terrorist%u2019s ways, McCain/Bush policies have created more terrorists than existed before they/we invaded Iraq.
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Posted by getoffmine1 at 11:12 AM : Oct 22, 200
true poeple (myself included) would prolly use it to pay for heating oil
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Posted by getoffmine1 at 11:12 AM : Oct 22, 200
true poeple (myself included) would prolly use it to pay for heating oil
Posted by kc629 at 11:53 AM : Oct 22, 2008
I''''m sure alot of people could use the money, but I look at my two year old and think he should not have to pay back a debt on money spent by other people. Also if they give away this money you will find yourself in an even more dire situation come spring. THe govt'''' needs to back off and let the economy adjust itself. If people loose alot of money it is a shame but the fact is that would mean values (of houses stocks ect) were artifically inflated.
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Posted by getoffmine1 at 11:59 AM : Oct 22, 2008
i was agreeing with you
Posted by getoffmine1
Well then by all means lets close the publicly funded CDC and wait for the Avian flue to knock off a few Republicans.
- Obama''s actual connection to Ayers and his 3 different stories on that connection
- Obama''s connection to Tony Rezco
- Obama''s connection and relationship with Father Phleager and Rev Wrigtht (Black Liberation Theology)
- Obama''s early involvement with the New Party
- The fact that there are at least two lawsuits against Obama to provide his actual birth certificate (I personally
think he probably is natural born, but the news media has not reported the fact that there are lawsuits-not
even Fox...If there was a lawsuit filed against McCain for whatever cause it would be all over the media)
- His corrupt association and funding of ACORN
- Obama has benifitted by the meltdown of the financial networks--if the media would report the rout cause of
this which Obama and his party have their fingerprints all over this--then Obama should have slid in the polls
- His utter lack of any notable accomplishment as a state and US Senator
- His lying on his record of abortion and his many, many policy reversals from the primary to the general
election
I cannot believe that America is about to elect this person. I believe with every ounce of my being that if even half of the dirt on Obama were to be reported this would be a landslide!!!
Well, only the Americans who stay are going to have to repay with taxes the trillions of $$$ this administration stole ove these last eight years. I''d rather not pay for a sunk ship, as Bush said, "This sucker''s going down"
Posted by john43218
Sorry, Faux news has that phrase copy written....
Posted by mr22585 a
You ninnies whinnied the same thing about Bush, how is that working out for ya?
- Obama''''s actual connection to Ayers and his 3 different stories on that connection
- Obama''''s connection to Tony Rezco
- Obama''''s connection and relationship with Father media has not reported the fact that there are lawsuits-not
even Fox...If there was a lawsuit filed against McCain for whatever cause it would be all over the media)
- His corrupt association and funding of ACORN
- Obama has benifitted by the meltdown of the financial networks--if the media would report the rout cause of
this which Obama and his party have their fingerprints all over this--then Obama should have slid in the polls
- His utter lack of any notable accomplishment as a state and US Senator
- His lying on his record of abortion and his many, many policy reversals from the primary to the general
election
I cannot believe that America is about to elect this person. I believe with every ounce of my being that if even half of the dirt on Obama were to be reported this would be a landslide!!!
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I cannot believe you voted for Bush twice!!
I see Obama as hope for change. McCain has the same tax structure as Bush which is tax the little people and give more tax savings, deductions or loopholes for business.
No way!
First off, both groups are to blame, but even more blame falls on us, the taxpayers. We vote the same idiots in year after year. Of course they are going to keep spending, we allowed them to. They took our yes vote as blank check because we never tell them to stop. We fuss, but then really do nothing more about it. Now we are going to suffer for it and yet we will still will vote in the same idiots again.
Posted by DcratLosers
LOL! John McCain can''t help that he is like he is. BTW, Sarah needs some new cloths, you can send your contribution to the RNC!
Breaking news:
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Thousands of pictures of NAZI SS Officers and Adolf Hitler found property owned by Sarah and Todd Palin. Also an apparent Altar dedicated to the notorious Angel of death Dr. Joseph Mengele along with thousands of NAZi era coins.
Posted by DoILookligaf
We didn''t have checks and balances from the years 2001 to 2006 either. I don''t recall a lot of Republicans being concerned about that.
So you suppose that McSame''s tax cuts for the rich will somehow provide the necessary revenue to pay the bills Bush has run up?
Or do you say "what the heck," and simply not pay?
The money will have to come from somewhere, got any ideas that make sense?
Didn''t think so.
There is a lot that is beyond you, for example America doesn''t want to lose any more of our children in lie-based wars, we don''t want to see people continuing to lose their homes, their jobs, their pensions, and their children''s future to corrupt corporate cartels, all the obsolete tickle down neocon-derthal ideas of which McSame represents continuation.
These problems are real, unlike your fake anti-Obama hysteria. What is beyond you is that no one cares about your irrelevant concerns, they are trying to keep a table on which to put food.
Wow, that makes all that money we give out to other countries like the $6 billion to Pakistan, $1 billion to Georgia look like chump change.
I figure that''s going to be the first level of ''testing'' Barack''s going to get as President - he wants so badly to be liked, he looks like he''d be easy to hit up for money, favored status, trade concessions, political endorsements, whatnot . . .
I''m sure countries are looking forward to restoring better relations with us, but most world leaders tend to drive harder bargains - like why give away anything for free if they can get something that''s of value to them in return (?)
Posted by maxify55 at 05:11 PM : Oct 22, 2008
When? ELECTION DAY. It''s coming next month.
More importantly, WHO?
That would be YOU, when YOU vote against the current Congress.
That''s a split infinitive.
Pelosi can''t even SPEAK ENGLISH properly.
Colin Powell convinced the UN that there were WMD in Iraqi that committed us to the war,and now Bushes man has endorsed Obama.How ironic!Remember how the country felt after 9/11;we were dumbfounded that such an attack could happen in America.Why should I trust Obama,who is naive on foreign affairs,when Biden warns us of an inevitable attack,and "we''ll need to trust them because it may not be apparant that they''re right".Bringing up Obama''s friends is not an insignificant point because that says alot about his beliefs,and supporting Raila Odinga shows very distorted judgment.Obama is succeeding in convincing you that all that matters is the economy so you won''t focus on his other weaknesses.By the way,what makes him such an authority on the economy?What has he done in Chicago?Now because he can sit at a table and discuss the issues makes him an expert."WORDS" are cheap,but Obama has nothing to back them up.EMPTY WORDS!
Posted by gotravel1 at 09:28 PM : Oct 22, 2008
Bill Clinton started the WMD lie.
Throughout his presidency, whenever he was feeling unpopular, he launched an airstrike against some small, distant nation. He learned from he predecessor that being a warrior president does wonders for your popularity polls.
So, just days before his scheduled impeachment vote, Slick Willy attacked Iraq with - guess what - an AIRSTRIKE (ooh, what a surprise). He made a televised speech explaining that it was because Saddam had WMD''s.
Funny how NOBODY called him a liar when HE said it. Even though NO WMD''s had been found in Iraq during his time in office.
But when George W Bush said THE SAME THING, all the libtards jumped all over it and called him a liar.
You see, Slick Willy is a better liar than Dubya. Slick Willy knows NOT TO PROVE YOUR LIE IS A LIE. Slick Willy only waged a quickie war and pulled out. Dubya went in FOR THE DURATION and OCCUPIED THE TERRITORY - and FAILED TO FIND ANY WMD.
What are the chances there WERE WMD when Clinton said so and NOT when Bush said so? Do you REALLY believe that Clinton''s airstrike against SUSPECTED WMD sites COMPLETELY DESTROYED ALL WMD without a trace, even though the location of any possible WMD was NOT KNOWN for certain???
All we are going to have is heart-ache if he gets in the Office of President.
GOD HELP US ALL
We are better off when there is partisan division and conflict, because then one party stops the other one from doing what it wants.
But when they start agreeing, we''re in trouble.
THE BEST GOVERNMENT MAY BE NO GOVERNMENT AT ALL, when we have leaders like these.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!
The first step is to TAKE IT AWAY from the crooks who have it now.
VOTE THEM OUT!
VOTE THEM *ALL* OUT!!
EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!
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by rw7b
October 23, 2008 5:43 PM PDT
- Now to break the last two dozen Presidental elections down for you, half of them are Republicans, the other, Democrats.
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