Obama And McCain On Job Creation

CBS Evening News: How The Candidates' Proposals Would Affect Your Community

(CBS)  To help you make an informed decision in the presidential election, CBS News is devoting a large part of our broadcasts until Nov. 4 to telling you where the candidates stand on major issues - from the war in Iraq to health insurance to education … and a lot more. Each piece will be an in-depth look at the issues facing the 44th president. In this installment, CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod reports on how the proposed job creation policies of Barack Obama and John McCain would affect you and your community.

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The Issue

Like a lot of guys with a finance career, Peter Halpern was watching the economy and worrying about supporting his wife, Eva, and daughter, Katrina.

To deal with the heat and pressure, Halpern turned … to heat and pressure.

"When the sparks are flying, and the tools are grinding, and you hear the noise," he said. "I love it."

After years in the white-collar world, Halpern is becoming a welder.

"Most of the time, the people I've worked with - our friends have kind of gone, 'huh? You're doing - hold on a second!'" he said.

Unemployed after folding his own investment company, Halpern is now part of a worker-training program in Pinellas County, Fla. And he's not alone.

"We're getting guys from 18 years old to 45 years old," said Lee Middleton, Halpern's welding instructor.

In Florida, three nuclear power plants are currently operating, requiring hundreds of precision welders for maintenance. Two more are in the works.

"All the baby boomers are retiring, and there is nobody to replace them. Now all these people are realizing this and they're coming for the money and the benefits - and the future," Middleton said.

These guys have done the math, and they like the numbers they're seeing.

Graduates leave there in starting jobs that pay close to $30 an hour. That's $60,000 a year base - six figures easy with overtime.

Maybe that's why there's a waiting list there with more than 400 names on it.

"Can you make close to the same amount in welding as you did in finance?" Axelrod asked.

"Oh yeah," Halpern said.

So Halpern, who knows something about life-changing decisions, having enlisted in the Army on 9/11, is changing the color of his collar, because it feels like the safest and most secure thing to do.

"This is my office, that's how I look at it," Halpern said in the welding studio.

"And how do you like your new office?" Axelrod asked.

"I like my office. You know, it doesn't have a window anymore, but I can live with that," he said.

Axelrod and his CBS Evening News crew came to Tampa to talk jobs, because Florida has lost more jobs in the past year than any other state. Tampa has been hit especially hard - and it's full of the swing and independent voters both candidates have been courting heavily - the bloc of voters that may very well decide this election.

The Candidates

"Small businesses provide 16 million jobs in America and Americans know that raising taxes on small business will kill those jobs," Sen. John McCain said in a rally earlier this month.

McCain's plans to create more jobs start with taxes. He's pledged to keep taxes on small businesses capped at 35 percent, and cut the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent. The idea is to free up cash and expand payrolls.

In a Pennsylvania rally, McCain said: "In this economy, raising taxes is the surest way to turn a recession into a depression."

But Sen. Barack Obama also proposes tax relief for small businesses, so they have money to grow. He says he'll end tax breaks for larger companies that send jobs overseas - and he'll offer a $3,000 tax credit for each full-time job a business creates - through 2010.

Obama's linked job creation to ending the Iraq war. He wants to take what's now spent in Iraq - $10 billion a month - and use it to rebuild our crumbling national infrastructure instead, creating 2 million new jobs fixing roads and bridges.

"We've gotta create the jobs of the future by transforming our energy economy," Obama said in Colorado.

But the centerpiece of his job-creation policy is a call to spend $150 billion on clean energy over the next 10 years - creating 5 million more jobs in the process.

Energy would be a huge source of jobs, according to McCain, as well. He's proposing 45 new nuclear power plants to be built by 2030 nationwide - that's 700,000 new jobs, he says.

"Nuclear power is the most dependable source of zero-emission energy we have," McCain said.

And Obama said in Reno, Nevada: "We can't wait to educate the next generation of Americans with the skills and knowledge they need to compete with any workers, anywhere in the world."

For worker re-training, Obama would expand apprenticeship programs, and offer flexible education accounts for displaced workers. McCain wants to reform unemployment insurance to focus on re-training, emphasizing community colleges and technical training centers.

The Impact

McCain is referring to places just like the one at the Union Hall near Tampa, where Peter Halpern is learning to weld.

"Yeah, the hands are little dirtier and a little more ate up than they used to be," Halpern said.

Axelrod said: "This is not what it looked like coming home from a day at the office when you were in finance."

"No, they were a little more manicured then," he said.

The economic downturn may mean both candidates need to re-consider their job-creation plans.

But for now, both offer something for Halpern. He could directly benefit from McCain's calls for nuclear power plants - as well as Obama's plans to fix our infrastructure. But this undecided voter won't make his choice based on who's got the better "jobs" plan.

"My position was to look at things from a 10-, 15-, 20-year position, and when we're looking at a president we're only looking at a four-year position," Halpern said.

"So there's nothing one of these two guys is going to say on job creation, or job training that's going to sway you one way or other in terms of voting for one of the other?" Axelrod asked.

"No," Halpern said.

He's more concerned with fixing America's reputation abroad. As far as getting a job - Peter Halpern figures he's good to go - no matter who's elected.

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Read more on the issue at Couric & Co. Blog.
Check out Where They Stand on other issues.

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And if you think he's happy, try his wife.

"He's not quite aware of it yet, but I already have quite a few projects around the house and in the yard," his wife, Eva, said.

"For him to weld?" Axelrod asked.

"Absolutely," she said.

So he gets to use his newly acquired skills. Turns out there's a price for his newfound security after all.

[recession1]

BREAKING NEWS!!!
THE "MAVERICK" SARAH PALIN, WHO THE REPUBS BELIEVE IS READY TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE SHE IS A BREATH AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY, IS ALL FOR SENDING U.S. NATURAL GAS TO ASIA!!!! WHAT???? NOT AFTER THE "MAVERICK" HAS SHOWERED HER RALLIES WITH THAT " U.S. NEEDS IT''''S OWN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE" ***!! WHAT A JOKE.. YOU CAN''''T BE SERIOUS.. ISN''''T THIS HER "EXPERTISE" THE ENERGY CRISIS??!!

[watusayboy1]

October 21, 2008
Betrayal, secession and a cowardly Blow to America
Sarah palin working on Secret deal with Terrorist Group Alaska Independence Party to help Russia annexed the state of Alaska.

www.chilitoz.com is reporting

[radiob21]

Neither candidate is looking out 4 years let alone 10 or 20 years on the economy.The LincVolt car designed Steve Goodwin which uses a 59 Lincoln 19 ft long runs off of fuel cells, biofuels, electric (solar powered) and gets 100 mpg it also has one of the biggest V-8 made from that time period. There are natural/propane/methane gas alternatives as well that when converted from BTU''s to gallons average $1.03 a gallon nationwide. So who is offering a program that will actually address America''s energy crisis and create jobs at the same time? None of the candidates above McCain or Obama. Their policies besides some carefully phrased rhetoric are almost identical. So folks stop praying at the altars of your political party and vote every democrat and republican out of office and vote in those who will bring about real change.

[pvperson]

Do you think McSame knew Palin was a thief and liar when he picked her for VP and did it anyway? Now there''s bad judgment.

[tannerbird]

I wonder how many on this sight has seen a possum come out of a dead cows a$$ and more working alive inside.

[x-republican]

Putting aside the fact that McCain is lying to the middle class about his plans to help out (he is really only concerned with helping out the super wealthy, and if it happens to create a few jobs, well great), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McCain''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo calls accuse Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

[pvperson]

*** Latrocinor, haven''t emptied your colonoscopy bag yet?

You do know that your name means "thief" in latin, right, maybe you just want to be like Palin, a thief and liar.

Whatever, your up to the usual cut and paste of others posts, I see. Shame, the depth that a person can sink in their solitude after becoming a shutin. I see you like the "World of Warcraft" though, good for you little troll.

[grouchyjohn]

Well, well, well.....

It looks like McCain''s ACORN''s are coming home to roost!!!


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story

[x-republican]

Hi Latrocinor, I have an idea, why don''t you go play out on the freeway until the grownups tell you to come inside? Sound good?

[pvperson]

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[benighse]

OH MAN, NOW MCCAIN AND PALIN WANT TO HAVE THE COUNTRY GET JOBS WITH THE FLINTSTONES WITH THEIR NEW "JOB CREATIONISM".....WHAT''S NEXT???...."ECONOMIC CREATIONISM" WITH ADAM AND EVE???

[radiob21]

Neither candidate is looking out 4 years let alone 10 or 20 years on the economy.The LincVolt car designed Steve Goodwin which uses a 59 Lincoln 19 ft long runs off of fuel cells, biofuels, electric (solar powered) and gets 100 mpg it also has one of the biggest V-8 made from that time period. There are natural/propane/methane gas alternatives as well that when converted from BTU''''s to gallons average $1.03 a gallon nationwide. So who is offering a program that will actually address America''''s energy crisis and create jobs at the same time? None of the candidates above McCain or Obama. Their policies besides some carefully phrased rhetoric are almost identical. So folks stop praying at the altars of your political party and vote every democrat and republican out of office and vote in those who will bring about real change.

[pvperson]

See Latrocinor, it''s not hard, it''s just juvenile, you pathetic little loser.

[pvperson]

utting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor


Is this childish enough for you Latrocinor, you really should call the nurse for help.

[pvperson]

Posted by Latrocinor Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Posted by Latrocinor Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Posted by Latrocinor Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Posted by Latrocinor Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

[x-republican]

See Latrocinor, it''s not hard, it''s just juvenile,...
Posted by PVperson

Latrocinor can''t help it, he was dropped on his head as an infant. He couldn''t come up with an original thought if his life depended on it. After all, he is a conservative. Latrocinor, copy this, you brain-dead idiot! LOL

[pvperson]

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

Is this childish enough for you Latrocinor

[pvperson]

Putting aside the fact that Palin is lying to the middle class about her plans to help out (she is really only concerned with helping out her bank account), I''m very proud of this country for outright rejecting McSame/Palin''s dishonest fear-mongering low-road campaign tactics. Rather than talking about the issues, McCain''s robo bloggers accuse Senator Obama of being anti-American and a terrorist, in the hopes of scaring Americans into voting for McCain. Not only will McCain lose this election, but he has already lost his honor. He really should be ashamed of himself. This is not the John McCain this country once knew. It''s a real shame he has stooped so low.

Posted by Latrocinor

Is this childish enough for you Latrocinor

[grouchyjohn]

Posted by Latrocinor at 08:55 PM : Oct 21, 2008





STILL here making a fool out of yourself from this afternoon?

[pvperson]

You win assshole your more childish than me.........

[x-republican]

McCain and his followers all take the low-road express. What''s hilarious is that they don''t realize that the undecideds and people in the middle are all turned off by their deceitful tactics. McCain is digging his own grave with his lies and character assisinations against Obama. He has truly earned his defeat.

[x-republican]

Obama for president! After 8 years of stupidity, we need a leader!

Posted by Latrocinor at 08:58 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Latrocinor, I''m so proud of you! Well said!

[x-republican]

Sarah Palin is completely unqualified to be president. She was found guilty of ethics violations as governor and should be impeached.

John McCain exercised extraordinarily poor judgment when he picked Palin.

Posted by Latrocinor at 08:58 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Latrcinor, are you sure? McCain didn''t know about Palin''s ethics violations when he chose her. I think you should cut the old man some slack.

[felix53-2009]

Posted by Latrocinor

Another day for you ole lackey fighting and arguing sitting in your mothers out house jabbing the keyboard as you shout right wing hysterics displaying what a loon you%u2019re from your pot-bellied perspective of the world

[x-republican]

This presidential campaign has rendered McCain nearly unrecognizable. * * * * In fact, Obama is educated and eloquent, sober and exciting, steady and mature. He represents the nation as it is, and as it aspires to be.
Posted by tonic16612 at 09:04 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Very well put! McCain is acting like deer caught in the headlights while he shifts from the low road to the high road and back to the low road again. He''s looking more and more like a foolish man who lost his sense of fairness and honesty. Obama has been cool the entire time.

[felix53-2009]

Sarah Palin is completely unqualified to be president. She was found guilty of ethics violations as governor and should be impeached.

John McCain exercised extraordinarily poor judgment when he picked Palin.

Posted by Latrocinor at 08:58 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Finally your mommy let out for some sun

GOOD ONE

[x-republican]

Obama for president! After 8 years of stupidity, we need a leader!
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:01 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Latrocinor, is all this campaigning really necessary? Your man Obama in ahead in the polls by 10 points now. You really should relax. It''s not healthy.

[x-republican]

I merely post lies, you defy them, I believe that makes you the moron because I''m mentally retrded.

Posted by Latrocinor at 09:10 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Latrocinor, are you sure you took your meds today? Your acting like a schizophrenic and angry John McCain, don''t you think?

[jshaniqua]

Why did McCain pick Palin to be the vice presiddent?? talk about simple minds! shooot, i think that if you wanted to become president and you have a good chance of becoming president , ATLEAST PICK A GOOD VICE PREZ! Especially an old guy like McCain whos gonna die any day now because of his age..so basically Palin might (has a great chance) of becoming the next president of the US. OMG thats just a nightmare! i personally hope that Obama wins. you know what, if i was a interviewer and Palin said something big or something like that, the first thing that would come to mind for me to say is, " interesting very interesting, NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN!" please for once, stop brining uo big ideas that have NO explanation! McCain picking Palin was sooooo unneeded and unnecessary.
~Shaniqua Johnson

[felix53-2009]

Colin Powell Endorses Obama
stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust mixx.com The Huffington Post | Seth Colter Walls & Nico Pitney | October 19, 2008



General Powell, harshly criticized some of McCain''s campaign tactics, such as the robocall campaign linking Obama to former 1960s radical Bill Ayers.

"Mr. McCain says that he''s a washed up terrorist, but then why do we keep talking about him? And why do we have the robocalls going on around the country trying to suggest that because of this very, very limited relationship that Senator Obama has had with Mr. Ayers, somehow Mr. Obama is tainted. What they''re trying to connect him to is some kind of terrorist feelings. And I think that''s inappropriate. Now, I understand what politics is all about, I know how you can go after one another and that''s good. But I think this goes too far, and I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It''s not what the American people are looking for."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/colin-powell-endorses-oba_n_135895.html

[felix53-2009]

Palin Claims Vice President "In Charge Of The U.S. Senate"

Alaska is missing its idiot

[felix53-2009]

I''''m simply a right wing blogger of filth for the GOP but I have a real life too and I''d hate to see Alzheimer McCain get the vote. And I really want to butt fk Palin




Posted by Latrocinor at 09:13 PM : Oct 21, 2008

[x-republican]

I believe I am the one spewing lies and filth and denigrations and Libel loony stuff. Obviously you are fine since you post facts I can''t handle like the fact that Palin was fould guilty of abusing her power as governor. My loss not yours.
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:15 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Well, I really can''t argue with that!

[felix53-2009]

Palin Claims Vice President "In Charge Of The U.S. Senate"

Alaska is missing its idiot

[x-republican]

It almost appears there are only 2 people here tonight, me and the person with a thousand sign-ons.
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:24 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Paranoia will destroy ya, Latrocinor. You should have that checked out before it gets out of control. :-)

[felix53-2009]

Colin Powell Endorses Obama
stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust mixx.com The Huffington Post | Seth Colter Walls & Nico Pitney | October 19, 2008



General Powell, harshly criticized some of McCain''''s campaign tactics, such as the robocall campaign linking Obama to former 1960s radical Bill Ayers.

"Mr. McCain says that he''''s a washed up terrorist, but then why do we keep talking about him? And why do we have the robocalls going on around the country trying to suggest that because of this very, very limited relationship that Senator Obama has had with Mr. Ayers, somehow Mr. Obama is tainted. What they''''re trying to connect him to is some kind of terrorist feelings. And I think that''''s inappropriate. Now, I understand what politics is all about, I know how you can go after one another and that''''s good. But I think this goes too far, and I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It''''s not what the American people are looking for."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2
008/10/19/colin-powell-endorses-oba_n_13
5895.html

[x-republican]

It almost appears there are only 2 people here tonight, me, myself and the thousand voices in my head.
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:24 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Dude, you really should get checked out.

[x-republican]

My name is Jonathan Semor and I am fighting for Americans in Iraq. I will vote for John McCain this November. Barack Obama is not qualified to be our president. John McCain is! John McCain will help us!
Posted by LOOK- at 09:24 PM : Oct 21, 2008

One problem, of course, is that while Obama is infinitely qualified to be president, Sarah Palin is not, and McCain has one foot in the grave already. There is no way he will live through the next four years as president, not a chance. Then, we''ll have Barbie as president? Scares the hell out of me.

[felix53-2009]

Drudge unplugged: How his campaign influence has collapsed
By Eric Boehlert

Drudge''s Web traffic remains strong and continues to grow, thanks to a burgeoning international audience. But in terms of setting the ground rules -- in terms of setting the campaign agenda -- Drudge has been AWOL since mid-September when the credit crisis erupted. Four years ago, Drudge and the right-wing bloggers were at the peak of their political power. Today, they''re pretty much watching the election pass them by, reduced to the role of frustrated sideline hecklers. Read more

http://mediamatters.org/

[x-republican]

Since you oppose me I must be fine.

Posted by Latrocinor at 09:29 PM : Oct 21, 2008

LOL, the mark of someone who is truly mentally ill. Since you oppose me, Latrocinor, I must be fine. LMAO! What retrd!

[felix53-2009]

I''''m simply a right wing blogger of filth for the GOP but I have a real life too and I''''''''d hate to see Alzheimer McCain get the vote. And I really want to butt fk Palin while my ex mother in law watches and then spit in her face


Posted by Latrocinor at 09:13 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Shame on you

[felix53-2009]

On the October 20 edition of Fox News'' Hannity & Colmes, co-host Sean Hannity suggested Sen. Barack Obama does not "sound like someone that understands our military" because in August 2007, Obama said that the military mission in Afghanistan "requires us to have enough troops so that we''re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there." Fox News contributor John Bolton said: "I think he''s very naove. I don''t think he understands how to represent or defend American interests. And I think we''re going to learn at our -- to great pain, if he''s elected, how much at risk we really are." Neither noted that in a September 17 statement, Defense Secretary Robert Gates acknowledged and apologized for Afghan civilian deaths caused by coalition airstrikes, saying: "I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition airstrikes. While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder. I have asked for a detailed briefing this afternoon about our close air support as well as our intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance operations."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810210014?f=h_clips

[x-republican]

If you are black you have a friend in Obama Hussein?

Posted by LOOK- at 09:30 PM : Oct 21, 2008

Obviously, you are a liar, not a soldier in Iraq. No soldier in Iraq would bring disgrace like this upon his fellow troops by publicly embarrasing them with such filthy racism. Nice try though.

[x-republican]

Yup, I''m fine.
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:37 PM : Oct 21, 2008

No, you''re special, very special! LOL Ever wonder why you were forced to take the short bus to school? LMAO!

[x-republican]

But you hate, drool filth and lies and act borderline sociopath.
Posted by Latrocinor at 09:37 PM : Oct 21, 2008

So you deny that Palin was found guilty of abusing her power as governor? I guess that is further evidence of your mental illness, the inability to accept reality. Pity.