Oct. 19, 2008
Under New Ownership: Bank Of America
CEO Of The Nation's Largest Bank Talks About The Treasury Department's Plans For Buying Into Financial Firms
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Play CBS Video Video Bank Of America Lesley Stahl speaks to bankers about the federal government coming to the aid of America?s biggest banks. Shachar Bar-On is the producer.
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Video Wall Street's Shadow Market Steve Kroft looks at some of the arcane Wall Street financial instruments that have magnified the economic crisis.
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Video Paulson On The Bailout Scott Pelley gets rare access to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson as he deals with the nation's unfolding economic crisis.
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Ken Lewis, CEO, The Bank of America. (CBS)
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Timeline Financial Meltdown Track major events that lead to one of the most tumultuous times in Wall Street's history.
On Monday Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson summoned the CEOs of the nine largest banks to Washington - and gave them a massive amount of money so they would start lending again.
The largest of the banks is Bank of America (B of A) - now partly owned by the United States of America.
The head of Bank of America, Ken Lewis, says that when he and the others met at the Treasury Department, it became clear that Secretary Paulson's "offer" was an ultimatum - no negotiations.
"In other words, take it or leave it?" correspondent Lesley Stahl asked.
"Right. Right, right."
"It’s said that he told the bankers and you, "This is your patriotic duty," Stahl said.
"I don’t remember if he used the word, but there was an element to that," Lewis said, "that this was the right thing for the American financial system, and therefore it was the right thing for America."
"Did you feel that? Was that a persuasive line of argument?"
"Absolutely," Lewis said. "I deeply believe that. I think he was right on."
"Now explain, why was it so important to the government that everybody agreed, that the nine largest banks are ALL in this?" Stahl asked.
"If you have a bank in that group that really, really needed the capital, you don’t want to expose that bank," Lewis said.
"In other words, stigmatize it."
"Right, exactly."
"So everybody knows that they’re not as good as somebody else."
"Exactly."
"Most of you were just stunned by the amount of money that the government put on the table," Stahl said.
"Yeah," Lewis replied. "At least I was. And I think most everybody else was."
The total was $125 billion of taxpayers' money. Bank of America, Lewis says, didn’t need the money … but got $25 billion anyway.
"Do you have any choice in this?" Stahl asked. "In other words, can you take the money and not lend?"
"We wouldn’t want to do it that way, because you can make more money lending," Lewis said, "and so the intent will be to use it to grow loans and to make more net income."
But under the Treasury's plan, there’s no requirement that a bank use the money to lend. It could use it to acquire weaker competitors - or put it in Treasury bills.
One of the few strings Secretary Paulson attached relates to salaries. A bank would have to pay more taxes if it paid an executive over $500,000 a year.
One of the bankers in the meeting objected, and started arguing with Paulson - and that’s when Ken Lewis, a critic of excessive executive compensation, spoke up:
"I did make the point that we needed to stop talking about executive comp and get on with this because that should not stop the deal."
"Actually, you’re quoted as saying, 'If this is what’s going to stop this, you’re out of your mind,'" Stahl said.
"I did use the phrase 'out of your mind.'"
"Because why? Because you thought if it got out publicly … ?"
"No, that the importance of this deal getting done versus these elements of executive comp were just out of sync," Lewis said. "I mean, this was so much more important. And all of us can take a little less money."
With his salary and lucrative stock and options, Lewis took home $25 million last year. But he’s one of the few in the business who can be fired without a golden parachute, and he thinks executives on Wall Street have made too much money.
"I think they were overpaid,' he said. "It's more egregious in financial services than any other industry that I know of. We need to cut back compensation in this industry."
"So this is a question everybody wants answered: Is this Socialism?" Stahl asked. "Have we now taken a huge step away from the free-wheeling Capitalism that we’ve known for the last 30 or so years?"
"I don’t know what we’ll call it, but it will be different," he said. "And there will be more regulation. The Golden Era of financial services is over, in my opinion."
Produced by Shachar Bar-On.
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- Pretty funny when 60MINUTES gets ***** SLAPPED.
Wasnt 60minutes doing an as-kissing 30 minute special on how special BofA is??? Do your homework 60Minutes! Your starting to embarrass your predecessors w/ your amateur show. - Reply to this comment
- Credit default crisis next?
My plan is posted on YouTube. Instead of giving $500 Billion of taxpayer money directly to the banks, it should be filtered through the taxpayers.
The treasury should give 2% loans of up to $10,000 to those earning less than $100,000, to be used only (via balance transfer) as a pay down of existing credit card, auto, student or mortgage debt. This gets the money to the banks that they can re-lend, gives taxpayers up to $200/mo in extra cash (i.e. 24% interest down to 2% on the $10k) stimulating the economy negating the $300 Billion stimulus package being considered, (and better than a one time $600 check) and staving off the credit default crisis. The banks would be motivated to re-lend rather than invest in T-Bills due to the loss of the consumer interest on that money, and the treasure is more likely to recoup its money (with interest) since the taxpayers are paying themselves back. Just a thought... - Reply to this comment
- PJC27- Oh by the way this Red Neck has a education and makes well over the national average.
But I am bitter clinging to my guns, and buying more along with ammo. - Reply to this comment
- PJC27- Most people who work that includes us Red Necks as you like to call us, will not get a tax cut. The only ones that will be getting a tax cut will be the ones who haven''t work all their life and have no plan on working ever, that is how Obama is getting them out to vote. Promise them money and they will vote for you.
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- linkerone- I see those of you who thinks that a company can not pay a person what they think he is due is just a case of hating those who are more successful than you. I do think that if the tax payers own part of the company then we set the pay or in the case of Freddie and gennie we should have set the pay. Oh I forgot Franks and Dobbs did make sure that the management of those two companies got the big bonuses. That might be because they were getting the most money, well Obama was number 3, from them. And Franks had another reason his boyfriend.
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- Kenneth Lewis is my new hero in the war on corporate greed. At 7.4 mil annual salary, Mr. Lewis is ranked 174th in Forbes list of CEO salaries. And although head of the world''s largest bank, his salary ranks far less than CEO''s of much smaller banks and financial institutions. But, more importantly, Lewis decided some time ago to stay out of the sub-prime markets as too risky.. That''s the sort of leadership we should have seen in all the financial institutions, and we wouldn''t be in the shape we now see ourselves..
Also, it seems that what many see as Obama''s policy to transfer some of the wealth from the rich to the poor, I see as nothing more than an overdue penalty for corporate greed. The big corporations which make up the pharmaceutical, insurance, and financial markets have for years been systematically stripping the middle and lower income class of all their income, and few precious assets, including their homes and meager savings. - Reply to this comment
And please don''t put everyone on the same economic, and educational level, and just say they should have known better. That''s BS, and we all know how today''s marketing tactics are so persuasive. Just look at some of the current campaigns, like "I want it all, and I want it now". We are manipulated, and then ravaged, and raped by the big corporations.
Quite frankly I can find no reason what-so-ever to even consider voting republican, after the last 8 years of Cheney & Bush. Togeather, they, and the Republican dominated Congress during the first 4 years, did so much damage, that our kids will be paying the bills for years to come..
We need change and we need it now!
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- Kenneth Lewis is my new hero in the war on corporate greed. At 7.4 mil annual salary, Mr. Lewis is ranked 174th in Forbes list of CEO salaries. And although head of the world''s largest bank, his salary ranks far less than CEO''s of much smaller banks and financial institutions. But, more importantly, Lewis decided some time ago to stay out of the sub-prime markets as too risky.. That''s the sort of leadership we should have seen in all the financial institutions, and we wouldn''t be in the shape we now see ourselves..
Also, it seems that what many see as Obama''s policy to transfer some of the wealth from the rich to the poor, I see as nothing more than an overdue penalty for corporate greed. The big corporations which make up the pharmaceutical, insurance, and financial markets have for years been systematically stripping the middle and lower income class of all their income, and few precious assets, including their homes and meager savings. - Reply to this comment
- Cheney has become invisible. Where is he?
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Posted by ERoosevelt08 at 10:07 PM : Oct 20, 2008
Good point! - Reply to this comment
- I can''t wait to see if these dumb rednecks refuse to take Obamas tax cuts? Are they SO "PRO" America that they will pay more than their due to Uncle Sam? You betcha NOT.
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- Uh, doesn''t that make the GOP kind of SOCIALIST?
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- Anyone who takes on a loan they know they can not afford doesn%u2019t have anyone to blame but themselves. Its very easy for many to blame one but hard for people to look at themselves and see how they contributed. You can drive through areas where people are losing their homes or are very close to it and see gas guzzling SUVs and satellite dishes. Just live within your means. When you go for a mortgage put down 20% and have the good credit score for a low rate. Stop maxing out the credit cards. Maybe you don%u2019t need to eat out 3 times a week. The problem isn%u2019t the government, or the banks - it%u2019s that credit has become the norm and everyone has this sense of %u201Centitlement.%u201D Look at the bankruptcy rate before all this happened. Why do you think they changed the laws to make it harder for people to file? Its because many people were turning to that as a solution and not a last possible resort. All companies are out to make money, honestly what is the point of going into business? If you feel that a mortgage lender tricked you into signing for a loan you didn%u2019t understand, then why sign? Why not question? Most people like to claim ignorance. Its called accountability. You are asking for it from the banks and the government, you should also be asking it from yourself. BTW %u2013 BofA is one of FEW banks that, as a whole, do care about their consumers, their employees and the environment. No one is 100% - but they come *** close.
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- The Welfare system was the end of this country and no one can save it now. Posted by Welshwoman at 12:24 PM : Oct 20, 2008
*** are you talking about? Currently less than 3 million people nation wide receive any type of Welfare assistance. That is less than 1% of the population. As for tax breaks or cuts--only those who work can receive any credits or benefit from a break. So what are you yammering about? The people least willing to take responsibility are the large corporations and financial institutions--that are quick to holler "tough luck" to individuals yet all have their hands out to be bailed out and keep the party going when the losers would be the rich.
As for the loans--only a fool would actually buy the right wing tripe that defaults which make up only 4% of the industry caused Wall Street to implode. There was more going wrong than that. And if bad loans and ARMS were the issue--since these programs have been around since 1998--if people just defaulted due to not being able to afford, they would have done it sooner.
Use your brain. High cost of war and continual borrowing to pay for it= low dollar value. Low dollar= high inflation. High inflation means gas goes from 2K per year to 12K per year. Food goes from 2400.00 per year to about 8900/yr for the same groceries. No bank would have factored in 400% inflation in 8 years when making their loan. Who could have anticipated what Bush''s programs did to the country and the economy. - Reply to this comment
- According to an article published by the Guardian 10% of the US bailout of 700 Billion, (70 BILLION Dollars) will go to the compensation of the incompetent scoundrels on Wall Street that embezzled this money. Google bailout 10% or
http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2008/10/bonuses-are-10-of-bailout.html
But in Germany the government imposed a strict salary cap of $675K on executives which will stay in place until all of the money that the bank owes the government is paid back.
http://www.680news.com/news/business/more.jsp?content=b102006A
What they should do in all the countries, is recoup the excessive compensation paid to executives for the last 5 years for running their banks and our countries into the ground. - Reply to this comment
- I am way pi$$$$ed over this plan.
BOA has no one to blame but themselves. Are the #1 lender to loan $ to illegals. BOA gave BILLIONS to them, homes, cars, personal loans, credit cards, & no way to collect any of that $ back. That was the final blow for BOA. I hear about the sub-primes being at fault, caused by HARD WORKING AMERICANS WHO WERE SUCKED IN & THEN RAPED BY BANKS WHO DOUBLED & TRIPLED PAYMENTS TILL THEY CAN''T AFFORD IT.
I read about a foreclosed mortgages by BOA to illegals out in AZ, the underground networks tell them when the raids are coming, they up and leave with everything they have, leaving a $900K home loan that will never be paid, cars stolen with no more payments being paid, and the rest of the $ on cards & personal loans is packed up and there gone. They move to another town, start it all over, with a diff name, or head out of the country.
Now, had this been an American Citizen, YOU would be hunted down like dog & have the cops throwing your stuff in the street. They would squeeze the last drop of your blood if need be, to get there $, As an illegal, they get handed not only Gov''t funding & health care, they are given BILLIONS of unsecured cash, they might as well just give every illegal that sneaks in $500K just to go back home, and either a boat or personal plane.
Whats the Gov''t intends to do for the millions who had there personal credit scores DESTROYED by predatory banks ? Credit Amnesty for all American Citizens! - Reply to this comment
- Cheney has become invisible. Where is he?
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- You really should think before making negative remarks about one of the largest institution in the nation. No one Institution is saint but they are focus on helping each and every customer acheive their dreams (homeownership, retirement etc,...). You need to be better educated as far as Banking, how to manage your account. Why do we like to blame others for our mistakes? It is really sad that as consumers we are not doing our homework before we venture in any type of financial relationship. You would prefer being lied to by people or institutions claiming to offer products and services for free. Wake up this the USA and nothing is free. I think they are one of the only banks that invest in their community and bringing out products that consumers will benefit from. Before I go, let us be realistic no company has ever bought another one and not have to make some changes. I share your pain if you were laid off after an acquisition but what did you expect? You thought they were going to keep everyone and keep going. I truly believe that they are one of the best out there right now.
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- Not only is Bank of America ripping off their customers but they are supposedly back by the government to act like they do, I say enough is enough. They are a bunch of users.
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- Blinders, thats what happened when my bank was bought up by Bank Of America. They became cut throats. I hate them.
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- There is a shaded history with Bank of America. That bank has no conscience at all. They seen to it that I didn''t see a paycheck for almost 2 weeks. It wasn''t enough I had no choice but to pay their loan sharking practices and close my account and switch it to a different bank. I have nothing but contempt for that organization. They operate like that of their CEOs.
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