RICHMOND, Va., Oct. 13, 2008

Va. GOP Chief Compares Obama To Bin Laden

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The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party has compared Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden because of the Illinois senator's past association with Bill Ayers, who has confessed to domestic bombings as a member of the Vietnam War-era Weather Underground.

Virginia Democrats, and some Republicans, are outraged, saying these are the latest in a series of inflammatory statements that the GOP has made against Obama in Virginia, a state that has emerged as a crucial battleground in the election.

According to a report in this week's Time magazine, the Virginia party chairman, Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick (R-Prince William), told Virginia volunteers working for GOP nominee John McCain that Obama and bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon."

"That is scary," Frederick said while providing talking points to GOP volunteers in western Prince William County as they prepared for a door-to-door canvass.

Several McCain surrogates have blasted Obama for his association with Ayers, but few, if any, have invoked bin Laden.

Yesterday, Frederick said he stood by the comparison, even though bin Laden planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the Pentagon that killed 184 people and Obama was a child and hadn't met Ayers when the Weather Underground planted a bomb at the Pentagon in 1972. No one was hurt in that blast, in which a bomb exploded in a restroom and caused flooding and damage to computer tapes containing classified information.

Ayers did not participate in the bombing at the Pentagon but admitted to involvement in other blasts. He is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a community activist who lives in Obama's Chicago neighborhood. Obama has said they have had cursory interactions over the years, including serving on the same board.

Clark Stevens, an Obama spokesman, said Frederick's attack on Obama's relationship with Ayers "has been discredited and debunked time and again."

"The Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, like so many McCain supporters," Stevens said, "would rather lie about Barack Obama than make the case to the American people why Senator McCain's plans of continuing Bush's policies for another four years would be good for American families."

Gail Gitcho, a McCain spokeswoman, also denounced Frederick's remarks, calling them "not appropriate."

"While Barack Obama is associated with domestic terrorist William Ayers, the McCain campaign disagrees with the comparison that Jeff Frederick made," Gitcho said.

It was the third time in a little more than a week that Gitcho repudiated something said or written by someone affiliated with McCain's Virginia leadership team. Last week, the head of the McCain campaign in Buchanan County in southwest Virginia was forced to resign after a column surfaced in which he made disparaging remarks about Obama, African Americans and gay people. Last weekend, the McCain campaign distanced itself from McCain's brother, Joe McCain, after he referred to Alexandria and Arlington County as "communist country."

Joe McCain apologized, saying he was trying to make a joke. But Frederick is not sorry.

"It is just the hard facts. It's terrible that it can be said, but it can," Frederick said. "It's shocking. Here is a guy who is one step away from the presidency, who is one step away from being commander in chief, who has a friend who bombed the Pentagon. It's just shocking to me." He added, "And there is no denying that Osama bin Laden had a role in bombing the Pentagon."

Ayers once hosted a gathering for Obama when the candidate first ran for the Illinois state Senate in 1995. The two also served together on a nonprofit board that distributed educational grants in the city.

Obama has denounced Ayers's actions in the 1960s and 1970s and describes him as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood."

The independent group PolitiFact.com has called the GOP attacks on Obama for serving on the same board as Ayers "malicious."

"It unfairly tars not just Obama, but all the other prominent, well-respected Chicagoans who also volunteered their time to the foundation," PolitiFact wrote.

James E. Hyland, chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee, said he thinks that the GOP efforts to link Obama to Ayers could backfire.

"I don't think the associations with Ayers is going to work in Fairfax," Hyland said. "What we are looking for up here is answers on the economy, experience and impact of [McCain's and Obama's] policies on the federal workforce."

But Frederick said he will continue to speak about Obama's ties to Ayers. "This man simply is not ready to lead," Frederick said of Obama.

Read more news on the campaign in Virginia from CBS News and around the Web.

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by nishaboston October 13, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
The republicans are becoming more stupid and ignorant each day. This is a *** shame !
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by john43218 October 13, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
The media has been completely unfair and biased for a Democrat even when it is the worst option and they do not understand that they are ruining the country by trying to manipulate the public in this manner. The media does not have Americans best interest at heart., Anyone who votes a "D" just because it is not a "R" is trully in serious danger of changing this country for the worse. Obama has no experiance to lead anything. This is not good change. The polls are biased and anyone who falls for this scam is just naive.

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by mavsreader October 13, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
McCain can''t decide WHAT he thinks about the comment? Staff...tell Senator McCain what to think.
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by libra127 October 13, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
McCain supporters are so desperate some will stop at nothing. Disgraceful. Utterly shameful.

Lies and smears such as this will backfire on McCain.

For the truth about Obama, see the websites:

www.fightthesmears.com

www.factcheck.org
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by magoo2u1 October 13, 2008 10:13 AM PDT
Agree with me or die seems to be the Republican mantra these days. I went to a Repub detox program and cured myself of republican thinking when GW won the nomination the first time. I recommend it for everyone.
Just dial 1-800- thinkforyourself and sign up for the free program.
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by pensacola98 October 13, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
Some leaders think it''s all about control, and search for a less intelligent and weaker voting base to follow them. It appears the chairman of the Virginia Republican Party is one of those type of leaders.

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by texlandrover October 13, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
Key point for everyone is to vote a 100 percent Democratic ticket. This is very important! It will get ALL Republicans who are up for election OUT of Congress.
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by jlkeller226 October 13, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
The entire McCain campaign smells of desperation.

When the chips are down you see what someone is made of. McCain has abandoned his principles and now just looks like the mean old opportunist he is.

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by wdrussell1 October 13, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
What do you expect?
He is a republican.
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by vsg4 October 13, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
"Obama has no experiance to lead anything. This is not good change. The polls are biased and anyone who falls for this scam is just naive.


Posted by john43218 at 10:10 AM : Oct 13, 2008"

What kind of experience current Prez. with questionable national guard service record, a VP with 5 differals has ? A prez. who was alcoholic till he turned 40+ years old ran this country in 8 years from 5.7 trillions internal debt, 135 billions budget surplus to 11.4 trillions internal debt & 435 billions budget deficit and end less Iraq war for 35 year cheap crude oil supply agreement ? No we do not want that kind of big oil , defense suppliers funded supported repub. Prez. again.
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by stan821 October 13, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
Another crazed republican nitwit spouting off more complete nonsense. What sane, rational citizen would even consider having such fools run our country?
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by wogerwabbit October 13, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
The Republicans offer nothing more than Bush''s third term... waht a joke.
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by jaxsterling6 October 13, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
Troopergate is nothing..How about OBAMAGATE.

I dont care who won the debate. I was one month ago going to vote for Obama. And then saw an Ad on Obama and Ayers. So I decided to investigate and what I found appalled me. I cannot beleive people are thinking of Voting for Obama when there is a dangerous pattern.

1.Obama and Bill Ayers Annenberg Challenge Coverup
2.Obama and Alwadi, a palestine terrorist
3.Obama and Rev Wright
4.OBama and the socialist demcratic association
5.Obama and Acorn
6.Obmaa and Rev Flaggert
7.Hamas donated 30k to Obama
8.International Solidarity Movement
9.Wheels of Justice
10.Rezko
11.And now ACORN to the list of Obama radical associations


Take all of Obama associates and his comments he has made and ill sum up Obama.

Obama is the most left wing radical terrorist sympathizer who is pro-muslim and anti-Isreal. Obama is pro-black. Obama is arrogant, lies and throws people under the bus to pursue power. Obama is dangerous for this country. In a post 911 World , I dont understand how the Main Stream Media is not reporting or investigating Obama background. CAN anyone name a person in the past besides Michelle, Rev WRight, BIll AYers, Rezko who can VOUCH for Obama.

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by geneonlbk October 13, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
If all social that resists government activity is termed terrorism that would include Washington and Jefferson and Adams et al. I was an antiwar activist in the sixties and seventies like Ayers. I was not a member of the Weathermen. I do attribute the antiwar movement with saving thousands of lives because we helped to end the war in Viet Nam. If anything Bush/Chaney and the spineless Congress have directly causes tens of thousands of deaths and maimed young men and women. Ayers physically harmed no one. Anyone who confuses the horrific harm done by a Republican controlled Congress in Iraq with Ayers need to do some introspective thinking.
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by jaxsterling6 October 13, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE....GUESS HE DOESNT WANT CHRISTIANS TO SUPPORT HIM....ONLY REV WRIGHT CHRISTIANS.

A television commercial showing clips of Sen. Barack Obama mocking the Bible has prompted backlash from the candidate''s "Fight the Smears" website, which falsely accuses the ad''s creator of trying to scam Christians out of their money by promising to air a spot that will never be broadcast.

Under the heading "Scamming the faithful," Obama''s official website says of the man who made the commercial, "The trickster''s claims about Barack''s faith are every bit as false as his claims that this amateurish video is really a TV ad."

WND has confirmed, however, that %u2013 true to his word %u2013 the ad''s creator purchased air time for the commercial on television stations in the battleground state of Pennsylvania. Sources at WTAE-TV in Pittsburgh and a cable company servicing Erie told WND that the ad had been aired on several occasions.

"Nothing has changed here," reads the Oct. 3 update, "The scammer is still untrustworthy. %u2026 Making scams seem plausible is what tricksters like him are known for. In the end, he''s even less credible now than he was when he first started taking people''s money."

"It is ironic indeed," responded Marks in a statement, "that this so-called ''Fight the Smears'' website (is) not fighting smears but creating them."

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by wogerwabbit October 13, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
Posted by jaxsterling6 at 10:29 AM

Same old BS... how boring.
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by jaxsterling6 October 13, 2008 10:33 AM PDT
REZKO now talking to FEDS...is this Obama October Surprise.

Jailed political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive. Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich, whose administration faces multiple federal investigations over how it handed out jobs and money with advice from Rezko, is considered the most vulnerable. Rezko also was friendly with Obama _ offering him a job when he finished law school, funding his earliest political campaigns and purchasing a lot next to his house.

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by wogerwabbit October 13, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
Posted by jaxsterling6 at 10:33 AM

so what
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by jaxsterling6 October 13, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
COULD OBAMA FACE TREASON CHARGES!!! THINK ABOUT IT.

Barack Obama spoke privately with Iraqi leaders about an agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq and tried to convince them to delay the deal until a new president takes office. The Washington Times disclosed the discussions on Friday and reported that Obama campaign aides had confirmed the talks. The
conversations took place in June, just two weeks after Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination, %u201Cand stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate%u2019s contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war,%u201D The Times observed.

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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
Dont vote for Obama because he is just like Hitler!
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by wntrpls October 13, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
People are going about this the wrong way. Maybe it is a chance for us to become a socialist state. The poor people need the chance to be even with the rich. Its time that we grow the goverment and start distributing the wealth. I am for one tired of capitalism and would like a more socialist , perhaps communist America. I am voting for Obama, he is the likely candidate to do this for us.
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by wdrussell1 October 13, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
I see the GOP cut and pasters woke up from their stupor.
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by pga39120 October 13, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
Why are people clinching to NON-facts to hide their racisms.. Even the dude from Iraq said several times Obama had NOTHING to do with those talks. And someone please have the courage to tell me WHY are people still making accusations about ayers and not one die hard republican has acknowledged McCain and Palin''s current friendships and support for Known convicted murders and terrorists. And you want these GOP elects to run our country.
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by jpmichigan October 13, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
If Obama wins the White House. We will have a democratic congress and a democratic president. This government will turn more socialistic and the tax payers will be paying for it through 3 or 4 generations. The congress now has a worst poll numbers of satisfaction of work done there than the present president. Image Obama, Pelosi and Reed in charge of the country, a disaster waiting to happen at our expense!
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by amazed801 October 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
This is the same tactic that Obama used against Hillary--he is trying to get McCain to apologize for everything anyone says that questions Obama''s ability or associates. It worked on Hillary because she had to tow the party line(I am not sure why considering everything)but it won''t work on McCain. Again as long as it is the truth then continue to say it.
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by palcah October 13, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
You people are sad! This is a campaign on CHANGE-you don''t get and you never will. Go back to your Republican holes and lick your wounds.
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by wntrpls October 13, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
I dont mind a Socialist Community. I am all for it I just hope there is equality between man when Obama is elected. The only thing that bothers me is his association with Louis Farakahn and his church of 20 years giving Louis Farakahn a lifetime achievment award , what is that all about. Obama can bring us change. And I need some change in my pocket. Eh Comrad.


Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time associates of Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House. He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking." You can watch it for yourself on a
newly posted YouTube video. Addressing a large crowd behind a podium Feb. 24 with a Nation of Islam Saviour''s Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaims...

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by meboard October 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
Virginia is going to go Blue and the Repubs can''t handle it...more to come I''m sure.
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by jntlw-2009 October 13, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
If you take the most violent rednecks (my apology to all the nice even-tempered rednecks), the KKK, the John Birch Society folks, The Timothy McVeigh type folks, and those people who watch/listen only the syndicated FOX News/Rush Limbaugh propaganda machine, you have the most evil, vile, ignorant, violent people this nation has ever produced rolled into the neocon Republican machine. For ths GOP chief to make such a vile wild unfounded accusation and comparison of Barak Obama to Osama Bin Laden after his party and their leader (John McCain) has said that Obama is a fine decent man who is running for President and you need not fear him should he be elected - well that man is truly an idiot. Shame on the GOP for allowing your party to become this low and vile. It goes to prove the bazzar and extreme extent the neocons will go to in order to perpetuate a lie to the American people in order to gain power. That is exactly why this portion of the Republican party must come to an end. The American people will not tolerate such outrageous conduct. It is facism at its worst. The neocon''s agenda is a blight to a decent society.
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by letreasonwin October 13, 2008 10:46 AM PDT


The man behind the whispers about Obama is not somebody who can be trusted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?hp
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by wntrpls October 13, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
jaxsterling,

Obama is so anti-Israel that he supported greater military funding for Israel than what Bush proposed. He supported Israel''''s incursion into Gaza which led Hamas to "un-endorse" him. He''''s been supported by over 25 Rabbinical organizations against the phony Muslim smears of the right. He was greeted as a hero in Israel by every major political figure in Israeli society, including Netanyahu. McCain didn''''t even visit Israel on his mideast excursions.

He''''s so Muslim that he called for the bombing of terrorists in Pakastan a full year before Bush or McCain had the balls to say "me too". He''''s worked in the Senate to keep nukes out of the hands of terrorists while the Bush White House was outing the CIA''''s anti-WMD unit. Thanks to that act of treason we have no intell now on what Iran is actually doing.
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Whatever it takes for Obama to get into power. Obama past and his associations paint a diffrent picture. But if he takes us into a socialist environment , I am all for that. I get welfare payments now, because I make more that way, than finding a job. Its about time the poor people of America rise up and elect Obama. Capitalism has failed us. GO OBAMA.
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by credibility2 October 13, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
I wouldn''t go so far as to liken Obama to either a Bin Laden or a Hitler. However, he has constantly surrounded himself with and has succored the teats of extremist, separatist, anti-American, hate and fear mongering, racist, bigoted, radical, etc. throughout his entire adult and political life. That anyone believes that this man is about positive change, you are dangerously mistaken. The likes of Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Moss, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, Pfleger, Acorn and others are ingrained in his mind and heart. Obama is a composite of these malcontents and bottom-feeders and exemplifies their destructive agenda. Obama is also a lying, fraud and phony. Whenever challenged about relatively recent and especially long-term affiliations with these types, he lies and tap dances around his answers, changing them to suit himself and to feed upon his lust for being a pathological liar.
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by blindhowlin October 13, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
McCain = Hoover

Obama = FDR

Now, who are you going to vote for?
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by wntrpls October 13, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
wntrpls,

Haven''''t you been paying attention? The Republican White House has just joined with the Europeans t make the entire developed world one big multi-national socialist entity.

The GOp has nationalized the banks, the insurance industry, and Wall Street. Detroit is next.

We need Obama to save capitalism just as we needed FDR to save it in the 1930s.
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Obama is my saviour, he will not trick us, his past and his retoric points to a Socialist Utopia. Obama is the chosen one, and I for one will follow him. He will make this nation fair and just. Obama has a plan to erradicate poverty. I am all for that. So dont group Obama in with the GOP and the capitalist pigs, it wont work.
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by cariboubarbi October 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT



In the face of the many disasters that Republicans have inflicted on the nation, all they have to offer the American people is smear and fear.



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by blindhowlin October 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
McCain''s problem is that once you start your crosses burning, it''s hard to put them out. Hate and bigotry are difficult things to cover up.

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by cariboubarbi October 13, 2008 10:52 AM PDT



wntrpls



Weak.

Keep reaching shorty.


lol!


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by bobnjersey October 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
["It is just the hard facts. It''s terrible that it can be said, but it can," Frederick said. "It''s shocking. Here is a guy who is one step away from the presidency, who is one step away from being commander in chief, who has a friend who bombed the Pentagon. It''s just shocking to me." He added, "And there is no denying that Osama bin Laden had a role in bombing the Pentagon." ]

what''s shocking is that this idiot is in charge of anything.
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by letreasonwin October 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
"The McCain campaign is distorting the Obama-Ayers relationship, and exaggerating their closeness. There is no evidence that Obama has "lied" about his dealings with Ayers. It would be more accurate to say that he "told the truth slowly," a regrettable but commonplace practice among politicians seeking to avoid embarrassing questions."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/did_obama_lie_about_ayers.html
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by rebnrdu October 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
NOT DRILL BABY DRILL!!! IT''S RUN BABY RUN!!! I AM THRILLED THAT OBAMA HAS HAD STRANGE RELATIONSHIPS AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW AND WHY PEOPLE HATE AMERICA. IF BUSH, OR ANY OTHER PRESIDENT, HAD THOSE TYPE OF CONNECTIONS 911 WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED, THE MIDDLE EAST AND ASIA WOULD NOT BE LOADED WITH NUKES, GLOBALIZATION WOULD HAVE WORKED THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED AND THE EARTH WOULD BE BACK ON ITS WAY TO GOOD HEALTH. KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE BUT YOUR ENEMIES EVEN CLOSER. YA GOTTA KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME OR YOU WILL GET BURNED. HE NOT ONLY KNOWS WHAT IT''S LIKE BEING HATED AS A BLACK MAN, A HALF BREED AND AN INTELLECT, NOW HE ALSO KNOWS WHY PEOPLE HATE THIS COUNTRY. IT''S TRUTH OR DARE TIME FOLKS!!! EITHER HE''S HERE FOR OUR WELL BEING OR HE''S HERE TO FINISH BUSH''S JOB WHICH IS, "DESTROY THIS PLACE"!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08
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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
McCain = George Washington
Obama = Adolph Hitler

See the difference now liberals?
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by berniew4 October 13, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
To RepForBarack it is amazing how stupid and untruthful Obama fans are The congressman in Georgia said McCain/Palin are like Georgr Wallace This of corrce is OK with you. Facts show the horrible relationships Obama has had BUT it is racial to bring that up. So say demos . Republicans have not brought up race and it ios OK for all blacks to vote OBAMA communist views. But racial if you vote for McCain. makes sense when we here the type of fans Obama HAS. The messiah will win ,you will be happy and make excuses for the nrxt few years for an oincompetent socialitic president !!
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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
Obama wears a Nazi uniform and goosesteps in private.
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by letreasonwin October 13, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
The man behind the whispers about Obama:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10
/13/us/politics/13martin.html?hp
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by jerr11 October 13, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
The real American Bin Laden is the guy who killed 4180 Americans in Iraq - the Liar-in-chief.


What''s the difference between Bin Laden and George W Bush?

1180 Dead Americans!

Bush wins hands down!!

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by pga39120 October 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
Berniew4.
What the georgia congressman said is that McCain/Palin are creating an atomosphere as did George wallace with hatred and bigotry. He did not say they were like him.
Race has been a factor of this election since day one. Its not a secret that we live in a society that no matter how much progress we still lack in other areas.
If you support your ticket that is your choice, but don''t judge Obama when your own candidates support and whose husband was a member of a group that hates america, or are friends with know terrorists.
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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
RepForBarack, I was at Hannitys website over the weekend and I am sharp as a tack today.
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by dbaecht October 13, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
The repugs want to try and develop some secret relationship between Obama and Ayres.
I have a questior them, what about the repugs and their rightwing christian terrorist blowing up womens clinics and killing innocent people.
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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
What?! Do you realize you are saying that Obama was partnered with Ayers at age 8? Neither knew the other was alive when Obama was 8.




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And how can you prove this wild assertation of yours?
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by gop_will_win October 13, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
Obama fed Christians to the lions in a past life.
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