February 11, 2009 2:11 PM

Congress Plans Second Stimulus Debate

(AP)  After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials said Saturday.

The bill's total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said.

The officials stressed that no final decisions have been made. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they did not want to pre-empt a formal announcement. House Democrats have announced plans for an economic forum on Monday "to help Congress develop an economic recovery plan that focuses on creating jobs and strengthening our economy."

Democrats said Obama's campaign has been involved in discussions on a possible stimulus package. The party's presidential candidate, running ahead in the polls, has outlined his own proposals for stimulating the economy.

Democrats are increasingly confident of capturing the White House and increasing their majorities in the House and Senate on Nov. 4.

If they are successful, a lame-duck session of Congress two weeks later would allow them to start work on a response to the credit crunch that has sent stock prices plummeting and also threatens to trigger a deep recession. It often takes two or three months for a new Congress to begin turning out legislation, particularly when a new president is settling into the White House.

On the other hand, by attempting to pass legislation next month, Democrats would have to negotiate with President George W. Bush, whose term runs until Jan. 20, 2009. Additionally, Senate Republicans, with 49 seats, could block any measure they opposed.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters in Denver last Wednesday a $150 billion stimulus package is necessary and she may call the House back into session after the election. Her spokesman, Brendan Daly, added, "Congress just worked in a bipartisan way with the Administration to pass an economic rescue plan to help stabilize our financial markets, and we must now work together to pass a jobs creation and economic recovery stimulus package."

In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada has announced a post-election session beginning Nov. 17 to consider public lands legislation. His spokesman, Jim Manley, issued a written statement that said "recent developments only reinforce the need for additional action to reinvigorate the economy." He added, "no decisions have yet been made on how to proceed."

An Obama spokesman, Bill Burton, said the campaign is monitoring the situation.

The candidate has said previously he favors $25 billion to help states meet their own needs, another $25 billion for roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and $65 billion for tax rebates paid for by a windfall profits tax on oil.

Speaking in Ohio on Friday, the Illinois Democrat also said, "we should extend expiring unemployment benefits to those Americans who've lost their jobs and can't find new ones."

The House passed a $61 billion economic stimulus bill before lawmakers adjourned for the elections, but it was largely symbolic since Senate Republicans had already thwarted efforts to pass a companion measure.

It called for up to 13 additional weeks of jobless benefits in states with the highest unemployment, at a cost of $6 billion. Another $14.7 billion was ticketed to help states cover Medicaid costs. Enrollment in the federal-state health care program for the poor and disabled often rises with unemployment.

The measure also included money for road and bridge construction, a relatively easy way to create jobs and pump money into the economy.

With that bill's passage blocked, Pelosi then sought to have it added to the financial bailout legislation making its way to President Bush's desk, according to officials in both parties. They said the White House signaled it would accept an extension of unemployment benefits, but the speaker refused to allow the stimulus package to be broken up.

As a result, Congress adjourned without providing additional benefits for the unemployed as increasing numbers of people are losing their jobs.

Congress enacted an earlier stimulus legislation with unusual speed last winter. It provided tax rebate checks of $600 to individuals and $1,200 to couples and included tax breaks to businesses investing in new plants and equipment.
By AP Special Correspondent David Espo

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by impeach__w October 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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by wherenextnow October 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
Oh look! More money giveaways. This time from Hag Pelosi.
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by gettin_angry October 12, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
Just looking at the electoral map, it appears as if the true middle class states are in McCain''s column and those where the elitists and big urban centers reside are in Obama''s column. It looks as if the elitists have recruited enough "victims" for them to finally get their way.
This issue with this stimulus proposal is just more of the same. It''s elitist buying votes and creating victim mentality.
My bet is that America will have a massive welfare state within a couple years. We''ll be a country of hopeless whining victims....deserved or not. The dems and the media will instill this in our mentality and all the while blaming true American ideals as the sad state of current affairs. Half the country will buy the bs, half will not. Vote fraud, handouts, illegal immigration will make the possibility of fixing what is wrong with this country an impossibility. Those that know what works...conservatism...will split from the rest and we''ll be 2 nations again.
If the left doesn''t take issues of vote fraud and media bias seriously, they will be leaving no other options but for the country to split.
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by gettin_angry October 12, 2008 5:53 PM EDT
Time to vote for Nader.
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by gettin_angry October 12, 2008 5:35 PM EDT
Is deregulation the same thing as lying to officials and constituents about a problem, attacking the character of people who are trying to ring the alarm bell, practicing partisonship to hide the mistakes, agitating the populace with falshoods of victimization to protect the economic tumor ...all while looting the Titanic as it sinks?
Good try Dems. You may dodge this long enough to win the election but this will come home to roost where it belongs.
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by karla532 October 12, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
Just what we need more debt to give people money/The 1950-1970 period I feel was different we lived differently we saved our money many families had 1 car only every person in the family did not have to have car it was a simpler time does that mean it should stay that way of course not but we have to adjust as well I feel no matter who is elected we are in for a rude awakening we will need to stop relying on credit live within our means and make do without all the bells and whistles all the time I saved forever for my 1st house and still do the same when I buy a new car so my payments are low enough I feel that whichever candidate wins is in for a hot mess. Who do I blame many factions but that is not the point as I tell my daughter yu can either spend days disecting how you got in the mess or move on from here and try to fix the mess I know who my candidate is hoewever in the end I am an American and I will support whoever does win/do I hope it is the person I vote for of course but is that not why we hold elections?
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by wolf77creek October 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
Why should we feel sorry for poor people? How many of them planned a family based on their ability to provide for them. You do not have a family if you do not make enough to feed & clothe them. Look at the amount of people in this country living in filthy, gang ridden neighborhoods, they choose to live like this, welfare breeders, because they have no pride or self respect. There is nothing shamefull about being poor, most of us grew up poor, we did not take welfare, we respected what we did have by keeping it repaired & clean, we did not eat out, we repaired & passed down our clothes. We saved for years to buy something we needed or wanted. We did not allow others to destroy our neighborhoods, we need more law enforcement & military to clean up this mess. Are you poor due to your habits:drugs, smoke, drink, tatoos, piercings ?
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by jckbrn-2009 October 12, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
The free ride is in congress ! ! !
Inactivity, as usual, - or at least until my party gets control - - - in the meantime, you poor taxpayers can just wait.
Unemployement and welfare should be provided immediately following passed drug testing and rejected job offers - -
Those truly needy folks can have my assistance and aid, but those freeloaders should never be carried.
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by on_alert247 October 12, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
I agree it isn''t the poor that is the cause, it is the greedy lenders. But I have trouble distinguishing between government backed lending practices and the democratic members of congress that encouraged bad loans and a lending institution making a risky decision to give bad loans. Dodd, Frank and Obama said it was all about affordable housing. Is it no wonder they were the largest recipients of money from Freddie and Fannie? Sure, its great to help out the poor, but is giving my tax money to them for a home the right answer?
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by on_alert247 October 12, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
Did you ever stop to think that there is something wrong with a system that requires that you work 2 to 3 jobs?

1950 - 1970 were they years of the single wage earner. What happened to that time? Inflation has not matched wages since this time period. Blaming the laborer for the system is attacking the symptom and not the cause.

Posted by curse914 at 11:22 AM : Oct 12, 2008

It is the fruit of ones own labor that brings personal satisfaction. Should you pay a grocery bagger the same as the store manager because the grocery bagger "deserves" a living wage? If you set up a system that doesn''t reward hard work (education and hours worked), you will get a mediocre workforce. My friend observed this first hand living in Sweden and working as a nurse. Hours wasted just talking and taking coffee breaks because it wasn''t their turn to help out a emergency patient. He couldn''t stand it and moved back to the US.
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