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Leading up to the second presidential debate, John McCain and Sarah Palin have made claims about Barack Obama's tax voting record and associations, but are they really true? (AP)
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The fact is the 94-vote total is misleading. Twenty-three of these votes were against tax cuts; seven votes would have lowered some taxes and, according to the non-partisan Factcheck.org, most of the other votes were budget resolutions which are guidelines but not law.
"These are not actual bills that would raise taxes; further action would be required before any tax increase could take effect," said Viveca Novak of Factcheck.org.
Palin, along with a new McCain ad, also claims Obama disparaged U.S. forces in Afghanistan by saying this: that our troops in Afghanistan are just "air raiding villages and killing civilians."
The fact is: That's just part of what Obama said. He was actually saying, more troops in Afghanistan would reduce civilian casualties.
In August of 2007, he said: "and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."
McCain's newest and toughest ad says Obama, in his ads, has been lying.
Especially when Obama claimed that McCain would slash Social Security by half.
In fact, the Obama claim is false. McCain wants to slow future spending on Social Security, but has never called for cuts.
Palin continues to question Obama's ties to William Ayers, once a Vietnam War protester linked to several bombings.
Palin said: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist."
The facts are: today William Ayers is professor of education. Obama has served with Ayers on two education and charity related boards, but has condemned Ayer's violent past as "detestable."
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- Mccain/palin only hope to win this election is to promote racism and hate. Too bad for them racist now are the minority in this country. Its not 1940, its 2008. They have no real stance on the future. Palin the pit bull barracuda still has no real grasp on what to do so she attacks Oboma, someone she didnt know was alive until 6 weeks ago, now she thinks she knows him better than the whole world. Hope that troopergate works out for ya, wink, wink. It seems no one can spell in New York now, What a bunch of Archie Bunkers, they put barrack Osama on the vote forms. Great idea the republicans have, lets divide the United States. Like Mccain said today, we fooled them once, we will fool them again. I have not forgotten Bush did not win the popular vote. The majority of this nation voted against him. He won the electro''s, with the surge in new voters the repulicans only hope for that to happen again.
Hey Mccain, run out of things to say, now you have to sell lies, poor old archie bunker. Biggots have no place in this country, go back to Panama were you was born. - Reply to this comment
- Mccain/palin only hope to win this election is to promote racism and hate. Too bad for them racist now are the minority in this country. Its not 1940, its 2008. They have no real stance on the future. Palin the pit bull barracuda still has no real grasp on what to do so she attacks Oboma, someone she didnt know was alive until 6 weeks ago, now she thinks she knows him better than the whole world. Hope that troopergate works out for ya, wink, wink. It seems no one can spell in New York now, What a bunch of Archie Bunkers, they put barrack Osama on the vote forms. Great idea the republicans have, lets divide the United States. Like Mccain said today, we fooled them once, we will fool them again. I have not forgotten Bush did not win the popular vote. The majority of this nation voted against him. He won the electro''s, with the surge in new voters the repulicans only hope for that to happen again.
Hey Mccain, run out of things to say, now you have to sell lies, poor old archie bunker. Biggots have no place in this country, go back to Panama were you was born. - Reply to this comment
- So Blujackass,
That must make Hallett and Chapman sympathizers to a terrorist too. Annenberg met with them....
Now you can finally see how irrelevant this whole argument is. - Reply to this comment
- Mccain/palin only hope to win this election is to promote racism and hate. Too bad for them racist now are the minority in this country. Its not 1940, its 2008. They have no real stance on the future. Palin the pit bull barracuda still has no real grasp on what to do so she attacks Oboma, someone she didnt know was alive until 6 weeks ago, now she thinks she knows him better than the whole world. Hope that troopergate works out for ya, wink, wink. It seems no one can spell in New York now, What a bunch of Archie Bunkers, they put barrack Osama on the vote forms. Great idea the republicans have, lets divide the United States. Like Mccain said today, we fooled them once, we will fool them again. I have not forgotten Bush did not win the popular vote. The majority of this nation voted against him. He won the electro''s, with the surge in new voters the repulicans only hope for that to happen again.
Hey Mccain, run out of things to say, now you have to sell lies, poor old archie bunker. Biggots have no place in this country, go back to Panama were you was born. - Reply to this comment
- Does not anyone recognize a pattern of behavior regarding Obama.
No records of academic achievement, no national test scores, no academic grants, no academic scholarship.
How does a ''B'' average student in high school GET IT ELITE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. (Occidental, Columbia, and especially HARVARD.) He does no list any letters of recommendation and how he paid for his room and board and etc. while at Harvard. Everyone is in Awe of him because he was selected Editor of the Harvard Law review.. but no one knows the requirements. He has no PRINTED ARTICLES AVAILABLE that he wrote before he was editor or after. There was a clause added to the selection could be made on affirmative action issues. (he was the first black in 109 years.)
He avoids, Ayers, Fiegler, Wright, Daly, Jones, Palmer and Rezko. BY not telling the truth about his relationships.
View this video.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411 Campaigning in Kenya - Reply to this comment
- Does not anyone recognize a pattern of behavior regarding Obama.
No records of academic achievement, no national test scores, no academic grants, no academic scholarship.
How does a ''B'' average student in high school GET IT ELITE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. (Occidental, Columbia, and especially HARVARD.) He does no list any letters of recommendation and how he paid for his room and board and etc. while at Harvard. Everyone is in Awe of him because he was selected Editor of the Harvard Law review.. but no one knows the requirements. He has no PRINTED ARTICLES AVAILABLE that he wrote before he was editor or after. There was a clause added to the selection could be made on affirmative action issues. (he was the first black in 109 years.)
He avoids, Ayers, Fiegler, Wright, Daly, Jones, Palmer and Rezko. BY not telling the truth about his relationships.
View this video.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5476 Acorn
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411 Campaigning in Kenya
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5471 Media bias
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5436 voter fraud
http://newmediajournal.us/staff/fsalvato/2008/10082008.htm who did you know
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjRjYzE0YmQxNzU4MDJjYWE5MjIzMTMxMmNhZWQ1MTA#more ACORN
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_acorn_smears/2008/10/06/137891.ht ACORN - Reply to this comment
- Hey shadrack45,
The three co-authors of Chicago''s Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal were:
1. William Ayers, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago;
2. Anne Hallett, executive director and founder of the Cross-City Campaign for Urban School Reform;
3. Warren Chapman, senior program officer for education at the Joyce Foundation;
Hallett and Chapman represented the trio at meetings to obtain the grant. Ayers did not meet either Mr. or Mrs. Annenberg. - Reply to this comment
- Hey shadrack45,
The three co-authors of Chicago''s Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal were:
1. William Ayers, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago;
2. Anne Hallett, executive director and founder of the Cross-City Campaign for Urban School Reform;
3. Warren Chapman, senior program officer for education at the Joyce Foundation; - Reply to this comment
- Blujackass,
As political consultant *** Morris pointed out in a recent article, %u201CAfter Walter Annenberg%u2019s foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-90%u2019s, William Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago.%u201D
It appears that Ayers applied for the grant, which leads me to believe his name was on the request. Obama administered it. - Reply to this comment
- shadrack45,
Do you understand how a philanthropic foundations work? Groups submit grant requests. Boards or managers of philanthropic organizations review and approve the grants.
However, according to the New York Times, Chicago received $49 million from a $500 million endowment by Walter H. Annenberg, the billionaire publisher, for school reform efforts nationwide, and the city added $98 million in matching funds for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC).
Besides, the New York Times reported Ayers was not the chairman of the CAC, Obama was from 1995 to 2000.
So, Mrs. Annenberg never even knew Mr. Ayers, but the same cannot be said of Senator Obama. - Reply to this comment
- I don''t care about William Ayers, other than that he has to be tarred because of this election. Ayers has lived his life since the 60''s in a way that many can only hope to achieve. There are plenty of people that McCain knows that are the most corrupt republican criminals this country has ever seen. Bush and Cheney come to mind.
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- Blujackass,
So I guess that because Ayers is connected to Mrs. Annenberg and Mrs. Annenberg has endorsed John McCain, that means John McCain is being supported by the friend of a terrorist. What kind of American is he? - Reply to this comment
- Let''s get on to something new. The NY Times is not the know all be all of all news.
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- It''s pretty clear by now that Herr Rove is running this little Klan meeting disguised as a campaign and is using "Triumph of the Will" as his playbook. They are both pathological liars and should be shunned by the electorate.
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- Sarah Palin and John McCain have a terrorist pal. His name is Gordon Liddy. Liddy is a convicted felon who admitting to planning to bomb federal buildings and kill if necessary. McCain and Palin love Liddy so much, Palin tried to hire him as a spokesperson for Alaska and McCain has appeared several times on Liddy''s talk shows--but that is all okay. It''s only the other guy''s terrorist connections that matter, right? LOL
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Palin_tried_to_hire_Terrorist_Gordon_Liddy_as_spokesperson - Reply to this comment
- I think that if the American government felt that Ayers was a true threat they would have kept him locked up. He is a professor. So how do you feel about the school he teaches at, the students, parents, staff. Are they too "friends" with a terriost. How quickly we have forgotten the Gulf War. When the Taliban fought with us. Of course then they were known by a different name.
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Ayers and Dohrn''s "revolution" and "terrorism" (in which they phoned ahead evacuation warnings) accomplished the goals of FBI and J. Edgar Hoover to a T.
At his trial, Ayers was acquitted by a judge who exercised his discretion to apply strict interpretation of the Bill of Rights for this "terrorist". Perhaps the judge felt sorry for the poor boy? Some ideological kinship?
AYERS NOW HAS TENURE, IS FAMOUS, IS INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AND IS WORKING FOR A REPUBLICAN FOUNDATION (on ostensibly-liberal projects).
AYERS has a somewhat unclear relationship with THE CANDIDATE WHO IS THE #1 FAVORITE OF WALL STREET and has the full backing of the Permanent Trustee and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski.
TELL ME HOW AYERS DOES NOT FIT THE PROFILE OF A TYPICAL FBI and/or CIA PROVOCATEUR. Go ahead.
If you roll your eyes and call me a crackpot, this just means you don''t know much about CIA''s sordid past, and it''s covert support for the anti-communist Left, about Operation Mockingbird, or much else.
(The World Federation was started by Cord Meyer of the CIA, and the CIA funded artists like Jackson Pollock. They also funded Left-y authors and other popular entertainment. Ollie North''s Contra-cocaine funded what became Gangsta rap.) - Reply to this comment
- I think one thing that people are forgetting was that Obama was 8 when Ayers did all of that. 8!! come on
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- "Barack Obama knew that Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were terrorists"
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ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH COINTELPRO? It was mainstream news in the 60s. The FBI was caught. FBI infiltrated peace groups and the Left. Agents actually paid dues. FBI planted news rumors that led to Jean Sebring''s suicide. FBI "snitch-jacketed" Panthers, hoping others would kill them. Judi Bari later joked that the first person to suggest dynamite was always the FBI informant.
Before and during the COINTELPRO era, the CIA and NATO ran Operation Gladio in Europe. They randomly bombed civilian locations and blamed it on the Left, to empower the Right. Blackshirts tied to Mussolini were the real perps.
What did J. Edgar Hoover want? To disrupt, discredit, defame, and stifle the antiwar movement, to reverse growing affinity of the "silent majority" of middle class with "radicals".
What did Ayers and Dohrn do? They created a split, where SDS and PLP were converging. They staged a "coup" and marched out with the Youth to form RYM (based on age, not class). Later they went underground and started bombing (EMPTY) buildings. This made the middle class love them. Right? Wrong. Their bombings alienated the middle class.
The media associated Weathermen bombers with civil disobedience and democratic expression of protest (an intrinsic American right and responsibility, every bit as much as gun rights).
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- CBS LEFT out or overlooked a little bit of available news information.
The New York Times wrote, "Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that''s where it''s really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago."
Ayer''s wife Bernadine Dohrn, also of the Weather Underground, praised the Charles Manson murders. She said, "Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim''s stomach."
Furthermore, he [Ayers] told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don''t regret setting bombs...I feel we [the Weather Underground] didn''t do enough."
Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley, who knows both Obama and Bill Ayers well, and who supports Obama, says of Obama and Ayers, %u201CThey%u2019re friends. So what?%u201D
Perhaps many Americans can overlook or ignore this. But I think many more would not.
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