Oct. 2, 2008
CBS Poll: Uncommitted Voters Say Biden Won
But Voters Also Say Their Perceptions Of Palin Improved
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Play CBS Video Video Biden, Palin On Gay Rights "CBS News RAW:" During the first and only official debate together, Vice-presidential candidates and rivals Joe Biden and Sarah Palin discussed various issues concerning gay rights and marriage.
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Video Biden's 'Bridge' Jab At Palin "CBS News RAW:" During the sole official 2008 vice-presidential debate, Democratic running mate Joe Biden took a swipe at Republican rival Sarah Palin's infamous "Bridge To Nowhere" claims.
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Video V.P. Debate Q & A "Only On The Web:" Katie Couric, Bob Schieffer and CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs answer questions from online CBS viewers about rivals Joe Biden and Sarah Palin.
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Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., left, and Republican candidate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin shake hands before the start of a vice presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis, Mo., Thursday, Oct. 2, 2008. (AP)
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Timeline Palin's Path A look at Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's life and career
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Photo Essay Joseph Biden A look at the outspoken Delaware senator, now half of the Obama-Biden ticket.
However, there was good news in the poll for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, too. Palin's debate performance improved uncommitted voters' perceptions of her overall, and on a number of specific measures. But uncommitted voters still have doubts about her ability to assume the presidency if necessary and she lags behind Biden on her knowledge and preparedness for the job.
Few of the pre-debate uncommitted voters committed to a candidate immediately afterwards - about seven in 10 remain uncommitted.
Voters' interest in this year’s vice presidential debate was high before the debate - about as high as interest in last week’s presidential debate.
Immediately after the vice presidential debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally representative sample of nearly 500 debate watchers, assembled by Knowledge Networks, who were "uncommitted voters" - voters who are either undecided about who to vote for or who have a preference but say they could still change their minds.
Forty-six percent of these uncommitted viewers said Biden won the debate Thursday night, while 21 percent said Palin won. Thirty-three percent thought it was a tie.
Even a quarter of Republican uncommitted voters thought Biden won the debate.
Among these voters, there was improvement in views of both Palin and Biden. Fifty-five percent of the uncommitted voters said their opinion of Palin had changed for the better as a result of the debate; just 14 percent said they had a lower opinion of her after tonight, and 30 percent said their views of her did not change.
As for Biden, 53 percent of uncommitted viewers said their image of the veteran senator improved, while five percent said their opinion of him got worse. Forty-two percent said their opinion did not change.
Palin's rating improved after the debate on being knowledgeable on important issues - from 43 percent to 66 percent - but Biden still far outpaces her. After the debate, 98 percent thought he was knowledgeable.
Uncommitted voters' views of Palin's preparedness for the job of vice president also improved as a result of her debate performance - from 39 percent to 55 percent. But those numbers are still nowhere near the percentage that thinks Biden is prepared - 97 percent, up from 81 percent before the debate.
Men were more likely than women to think Palin is prepared for the job, but that's not surprising, as more men tend to be Republican than women.
Although Palin made some gains on perceptions that she could serve as president if needed, she rose just nine points on that measure after the debate, to 44 percent. In contrast, almost all uncommitted voters think Biden would be an effective president.
One of Palin's strengths has been her ability to connect with voters. Before the debate, 58 percent of uncommitted voters felt she shares their values; that rose to 73 percent after the debate. Fewer uncommitted voters said the same about Biden either before or after the debate.
Debate watchers who thought Biden won the debate cited his knowledge and experience - especially on foreign policy - often using words like "knowledgeable," "experienced" and "articulate." Others mentioned his sincerity and compassion, and mentioned finding out about his family life - particularly that he was a single parent. In contrast, they felt that Palin was overly rehearsed and dodged answering questions.
Debate watchers who thought Palin won the debate praised her style. They saw her as "outspoken," "determined" and "on the ball." They also said she was more intelligent and accomplished than they expected, echoing the finding that 66 percent thought she was knowledgeable in the post-debate poll.
Uncommitted voters include those who say they have a preference, but also say they could still change their minds. Eighteen percent said they were committed to Obama, ten percent were committed to McCain and 71 percent of these voters remained uncommitted after the debate.
Read the complete poll (PDF)
This CBS News poll was conducted online by Knowledge Networks among a nationwide random sample of 473 uncommitted voters - voters who don’t yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds - who have agreed to watch the debate. Knowledge Networks, a market and public policy research firm based in Menlo Park, CA, conducted the web poll among a sample of adult members of its panel, who are provided web access if they don't already have it. More technical information is available at http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/ganp/reviewer-info.html.
This is a scientifically representative poll of uncommitted voters’ reaction to the presidential debate. The margin of sampling error could be plus or minus 5 percentage points for results based on the entire sample.
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- The fact that Fox News Network is taking the position of launching a series of all out assaults against senator Obama%u2019s character is a sad day in journalism. They should be ashamed of the immoral and unethical standards that their network displays on a continual basis. What they must be made to understand is that as citizens we rely upon networks for their fair and accurate reporting of events and we will not tolerate anything less, especially when its over the top or maybe I should say as far right as Fox News Network is. If your views are the same share this message with others. It is time to take a stand against Fox and look to other networks for fair and accurate news coverage.
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- Hey ginoson....Still posting your worthless garbage ?
Your days of fear and lies are over. People know your lies and twisted fear tactics and are not paying attention...Thank God !...You are a JOKE!
Posted by zietzke
PEOPLE??? There are only two people on this democrat board anymore. If you think you are going to run me off, you''d better think again. I don''t scare.Now, don''t you think you''d better go off to bed. Your mommy is calling you with your bottle to tuck you in.
What a nerd!!!! - Reply to this comment
- You said that the democrates started every war...wrong again monkey
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Posted by zietzke(numbnutz)
Hey, phukface, do you read? And do you comprehend what you read? Talking about educated? I''ll compare mine with yours anyday you like. Now, see if you can pay attention for just a few seconds. Did I not say that THIS war was started in 1978 when Jimmie Cahtah, allowed the Ayatollah Khomeini to be installed in Iran after the Shah was deposed. ARE YOU WITH ME SO FAR, DUMBBELL? I say again, shake your head and get some of that horseschitt stirred up so you can think. The Taliban was formed then and followed by al qaeda. They bombed airplanes, night clubs, ships, military barracks, etc, KILLING hundreds of innocent people. THAT WAS THE START OF THIS WAR. Carter was voted out of office and Reagan came in. He warned Qadafi about the bombing of the Pan Am airplane over Scotland. He kept up his tactics until Reagan said "no more" and rattled his cage with an attack that almost got him. Qadafi immediately discontinued his terrorist attacks. Clinton had chances at Bin Laden, but chose not to take him. The war goes on. The towers were attacked by the blind terrorist and killed people. Bush warned Saddam 17 times through the hapless UN. No deal. So, Bush CONTINUED THE WAR BY ATTACKING IRAQ & SADDAM. Once again, CARTER STARTED THIS WAR and BUSH IS FINISHING IT. Does that help, lamebrain? - Reply to this comment
- There is a new Poll on PBS about Palin being qualified for VP. The RNC got word of it and has had supporters inundate the site with yes votes for Palin. This poll is to be broadcast on the major networks later. it is not a scientific poll but an electronic poll--if you have an opinion about whether Palin is fit to be President or not--go to this link, also email this link to anyone who you think has an opinion on Palin.
1) Click on link and vote yourself. Here''''''''s the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll
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and cast your vote - Reply to this comment
- MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN
http://myblogthebword.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-holiday-with-john-mccain-it-was-just.html
A MUST READ - THIS GUY IS AS SICK AND CREEPY AS IT GETS!!!!
"McCain''s appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her. Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy''s idea - I didn''t have anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me. You can''t imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona . - Reply to this comment
- And, where might I ask did you get your facts from? That trusting and vanishing media garbage, NY Times? LA Times? Wash. Post? Katie Couric? Keith Olbermann? Chris Matthews(Hussein makes tingles run up & down my leg). Your *** sounds like something they would spit out. Why don''''t you google it, moron? You might learn something other than acusing someone of posting lies. I don''''t see how you can accuse me of being "an idiot and a stupid one" when I never voted for Bill Clinton and am not an advocate of the empty suit racist, radical, America hating, Rev Jim Jones Muslim that can''''t produce a genuine birth certificate showing that he is legal to be president of this country. You are the certified stupid idiot if you back these gems.
Hey ginoson....Still posting your worthless garbage ?
Your days of fear and lies are over. People know your lies and twisted fear tactics and are not paying attention...Thank God !...You are a JOKE!
You said that the democrates started every war...wrong again monkey brain......Did your 1300cc pint size brain forget about the GULF WAR ? That was a Bush baby...Just like this one ! Your insults and calling me Horseshite brain just goes to show how un-educated you really are...Keep up the good work...we could all use a good laugh these days..starting with YOU ! Bye Bye - Reply to this comment
- Hey ginoson,
Why don''''t you walk West until you sink into the mud where you came from. U R an idiot and a stupid one at that. The list contained the absolute facts, something your 1300 cc pint size brain cannot comprehend. Later, monkey face !
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Posted by zietzke(numbnutz)
And, where might I ask did you get your facts from? That trusting and vanishing media garbage, NY Times? LA Times? Wash. Post? Katie Couric? Keith Olbermann? Chris Matthews(Hussein makes tingles run up & down my leg). Your *** sounds like something they would spit out. Why don''t you google it, moron? You might learn something other than acusing someone of posting lies. I don''t see how you can accuse me of being "an idiot and a stupid one" when I never voted for Bill Clinton and am not an advocate of the empty suit racist, radical, America hating, Rev Jim Jones Muslim that can''t produce a genuine birth certificate showing that he is legal to be president of this country. You are the certified stupid idiot if you back these gems. - Reply to this comment
- Shame, shame, shame on Palin.
She says she wants to talk about issues but then lies about Obama being "pals" with the guy from the Weatherman.
That''s all she can do: lie.
She''s got to lie, change the subject because she & McCain are so wrong about the economy.
They want to cut taxes for companies and rich people like those on Wall Street.
The want to loosen regulations on Wall Street so that we continue to have problems like this and even more bailouts!!
She & McCain are shameful! - Reply to this comment
- AND UNDER obama WE WILL SLOWLY DRIFT INTO SOCIALISM..
We are already at that point...socialism. Look at the events over the last week. If you think we are still a democracy, try reading the newspapers. Over 80 % of the American people didn''t want the bailout...guess what happened...WE THE PEOPLE ?...What a Joke ! - Reply to this comment
- How can one get interested in a list like this, when the very first item is a flat out lie? Every war we''''ve ever been in was started by a democrat. This one was started by the illustrious idiot, lamebrain peanut farmer, Jimmie Carter back in ''''78, when he allowed the Ayatollah Khomeini to be installed in Iran after the Shah was deposed.That was the beginning of the Taliban and al qaeda. That was followed by all the bombings of military barracks, airplanes, ships, and night clubs all around the world.That also caused a lot more deaths than we''''ve lost in this necessary war.
Maybe you should go back to your liberal university and get reindoctrinated. Your brain was removed in your college days and replaced with a material resembling horseschitt that is used only to keep your ears apart.
Hey ginoson,
Why don''t you walk West until you sink into the mud where you came from. U R an idiot and a stupid one at that. The list contained the absolute facts, something your 1300 cc pint size brain cannot comprehend. Later, monkey face ! - Reply to this comment
- ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHY ARE YOU A RACIST?
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Posted by slownewsdays
From Dreams of My Father:''I ceased to advertise my mother''s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.''
From Dreams of My Father : ''I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother''s race.''
From Dreams of My Father:''There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.''
From Dreams of My Father: ''It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.''
From Dreams of My Father:''I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn''t speak to my own. It was into my father''s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I''d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.''
And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope:''I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.''
Any more questions? Do you read? And, if you do read, can you comprehend? You''ve seen this before because I posted it. Grow up numbnuts. - Reply to this comment
- Your party and your present "Commander in Chief"
has done the following to rip of the American PEOPLE..
1) Started a war based on a lie, over 4000 soldiers
are now dead as a result of this lie.
Enough said !
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Posted by zietzke
How can one get interested in a list like this, when the very first item is a flat out lie? Every war we''ve ever been in was started by a democrat. This one was started by the illustrious idiot, lamebrain peanut farmer, Jimmie Carter back in ''78, when he allowed the Ayatollah Khomeini to be installed in Iran after the Shah was deposed.That was the beginning of the Taliban and al qaeda. That was followed by all the bombings of military barracks, airplanes, ships, and night clubs all around the world.That also caused a lot more deaths than we''ve lost in this necessary war.
Maybe you should go back to your liberal university and get reindoctrinated. Your brain was removed in your college days and replaced with a material resembling horseschitt that is used only to keep your ears apart. - Reply to this comment
- McCain likes to smell Palin''''s brain farrts.
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Posted by Salih-Ibn
Another example of the intelligence of the leftturrds.
You probably turn around and kick at yours. - Reply to this comment
- 12 Reasons to Vote Democrat
1. I''m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
2. I''m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
3. I''m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they''re doing because they now think we''re good people.
4. I''m voting Democrat because I believe that people who can''t tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don''t start driving a Prius.
5. I''m voting Democrat because I want to keep paying to keep all death row inmates alive.
6. I''m voting Democrat because I want to keep my borders wide open because we don''t have enough crime here already.
7. I''m voting Democrat because our taxes are not high enough.
8. I''m voting Democrat because I think every person is entitled to FREE education, FREE insurance, FREE food, FREE housing and any other things that I have worked for all my life. - Reply to this comment
Under Bush / Cheney, our country has been destroyed.
The American people now see the terrible truth about the Repiglican party and all it has represented over the last 8 years.
Enough said !
Posted by zietzke at 12:24 AM : Oct 05, 2008
AND UNDER obama WE WILL SLOWLY DRIFT INTO SOCIALISM..- Reply to this comment
- You Repiglicans are really funny people, especially the Political action committees.....Good lord !
Your parties leader has been cheating the American people over the last 8 years. Your so called "facts" about this election are twisted and are bogus...all based on fear and distortions. You stole the last two elections...not this time !
Your party and your present "Commander in Chief"
has done the following to rip of the American PEOPLE..
1) Started a war based on a lie, over 4000 soldiers
are now dead as a result of this lie.
2) Violated the Geneva convention on the treatment
of POWS at Gitmo.
3) Sucked over $ 850 Billion USD out of the economy
for this war, resulting in massive losses.
4) Violated wire tap laws on the American people.
5) Terrible environmental policies.
6) Our credibility around the World is gone.
7) Our economy is gone, massive job losses, credit
gone, people demoralized, fearful and broke.
8) Massive economic bailout was a rip off scam.
Etc...Etc..Etc...
Under Bush / Cheney, our country has been destroyed.
The American people now see the terrible truth about the Repiglican party and all it has represented over the last 8 years.
Enough said ! - Reply to this comment
- This is why the National Republican Trust Political Action Committee is moving to implement a %u201Cshock and awe%u201D strategy against Obama in key states.
We plan to take out powerful television ads, Internet ads and other communications to inform Americans20about the dangers posed by Barack Obama.
Stop and think how much Obama may cost you and your family in new taxes over the next four years alone: $50,000, $75,000, $100,000 or even more. - Reply to this comment
- Exposing the Truth
Hillary Clinton was late in recognizing the threat Obama posed to her campaign, but once she did, her strategy worked.
When Hillary exposed Obama publicly, her campaign saw a major turnaround.
Hillary won every major state primary in the nation with the sole exception of Obama%u2019s home state of Illinois.
And even though Oba ma was %u201Canointed%u201D by the media and Democratic elites, Hillary went on to win eight of the last 10 Democratic primaries.
How did Obama beat Hillary for the nomination?
Well, using a loophole in Democratic rules, he was able to rack up large majorities in caucus states where he outspent and out organized her.
But in large, contested states she won almost every time. Why? Because when Democrats heard what Obama really stood for, they turned on him.
Make no mistake about it: If we let Americans know the truth about Obama, John McCain can win this election!
But we must employ Hillary Clinton%u2019s strategy.
We must expose Obama for the dangerous radical he is. - Reply to this comment
- Here Now
Dangerous Economic Plan
And then there are Obama%u2019s dangerous economic plans for America.
He wants to almost double the capital gains tax. He wants to strip the FICA tax cap off every worker making more than $97,500. He wants to increase the dividend tax. He wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire %u2014 giving almost every American family an automatic tax increase.
He has called for more than $800 billion in new spending programs.
He is so radical he even backed driver%u2019s licenses for illegal aliens %u2014 even though such a move would help future terrorists move freely in the United States.
He is the most pro-abortion candidate in the history of the country. In 2001, as a state legislator in Il linois, he opposed a bill to protect live born children %u2014 children actually born alive! He was the only Illinois senator to speak out against the bill.
He opposes gun rights. He has long history of trying to deny ordinary citizens access to guns.
He originally backed Washington D.C.%u2019s total ban on private handguns %u2014 a ban that was overturned. The NRA rated him an %u201CF%u201D on gun positions and says he is one of the most dangerous anti-gun politicians in the nation.
Never forget that Obama is a Harvard educated elitist. To him we Americans are simply %u201Cbitter%u201D and he has mocked us saying %u201C[they] cling to their guns and their religion.%u201D - Reply to this comment
- However, Obama has no explanation as to why he is still a friend of Ayers.
Obama has even been endorsed by radicals such as Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan.
No one can deny hearing about Obama%u2019s relationship with the America-hating Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
There should be little doubt that William Ayers and Louis Farrakhan and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright are rooting for Obama %u2014 because he is one of them.
In keeping with such friends, Obama has promised to meet with radical leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without %u201Cpreconditions%u201D e ven though Ahmadinejad has promised to %u201Cwipe Israel off the map%u201D and %u201Cdestroy%u201D America.
Even radical Hamas terrorists have praised him.
%u201CWe like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election,%u201D Ahmed Yousef, senior Hamas leader was quoted by ABC radio as saying. - Reply to this comment
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