Elite Officer Recalls Bin Laden Hunt

Delta Force Commander Says The Best Plan To Kill The Al Qaeda Leader In 2001 Was Nixed

(CBS)  The military wouldn't tell 60 Minutes who rejected the plans or why. Fury wasn't happy about it but he pressed on with the only option he had left, a frontal assault on bin Laden's dug-in al Qaeda fighters. The Delta team had only about 50 men. So the mission would depend on the Afghan militia as guides and muscle. Their leader was a warlord and self-styled general named Ali.

"Ali told us after about 30 seconds of discussion, he kind of listened to me ramble on and then the first thing he said was, 'I don't think you guys can handle it. You can't handle Al Qaeda in these mountains,'" Fury remembers.

Ali met with a CIA officer and accepted millions of dollars in cash from the agency. In short order, his Mujahideen fighters were escorting Delta Force into the mountains.

"Paint the picture for me of these Afghan Mujahideen troops," Pelley asks.

"They range anywhere from maybe 14 up to maybe 80. Various dress. Basically, we would probably consider it rags, which is the standard dress for a Mujahideen warrior.

There is a video of the top secret mission, which has never been seen by the public before, until now. It was recorded by the Delta commandos themselves. Dressed like Afghans, the Americans maneuvered up the mountains, calling in air strikes on al Qaeda. By day they would advance, but at night they soon discovered their Afghan allies went home.

"Well, I have to assume that if you started up the hills of Tora Bora, and you and the Mujahideen took territory, they didn't abandon that at night?" Pelley asks.

"Oh yes they did," Fury says.

He says they gave it up to the enemy. "The Mujahideen would go up, get into a skirmish, firefight, lose a guy or two, maybe kill an al Qaeda guy or two, and then they leave. It was almost like it was an agreement, an understanding between the two forces fighting each other. Almost put on a good show and then leave."

Four days after arriving in Tora Bora, Dalton Fury was faced with a fateful command decision: three of his men were in trouble behind enemy lines, and at the same time the CIA had been listening to bin Laden's radio transmissions and had a breakthrough.

"And this is where it gets complicated. At about the same time, the CIA, George, comes into our room and he says, 'Guys, I got a location for Osama bin Laden.' That’s probably the best locational data we've had on UBL ever."

It was night, so Fury was without his Afghan allies. Still, he rescued his men and then found himself approaching bin Laden's doorstep. "We're about 2,000 meters away from where we think bin Laden's at still. From where we're at. Now we have to make a decision," he remembers.

[notmudrose]

Dubya really screwed us in 2001 and for the last 8 years. If you voted for him you''ve now killed 4488 American soldiers in Iraq.

[thechinaman1]

we should have sent 200,000 soldiers up to the hindu kush on 9/12 until blood was flowing from every *** in bin laden''s body.

[liberalme]

The CIA has a detailed map of Tora Bora--

The few times our military had Bin Laden in their sites, they were told to back off by "someone" in Washington.

Bush never wanted to "get" Bin Laden---his "blood" brother.

[jn122736]

If Osama Bin Laden had been killed or captured the truth about 9/11 may have been let out, either by Bin Laden himself, if captured, or by his family in Saudi Arabia.
That is a very possible reason why no serious effort to kill him was ever allowed by the administration.

Bin laden, Al Qaeda, and Afghanistan were just fabricated excuses used to carry out the LONG PLANNED invasion of Iraq.

[inventagod2]

bin Laden (or Tim Ossman) was a CIA employee, and had very little to do with 9/11. Someone within our government got away with murder, in the name of oil.
There was never a real plan to ''get'' Osama...

[zhynaryll]

You Bush-haters out there need to go join your great hero, bin Laden!!! Leave the US! We don''t need nor want your kind!! However - if Bush made the call to NOT get bin Laden, then HE needs to leave the US as well! The whole operation using the warlords was an exercise in stupidity, and I lay that on the generals in charge - Bush doesn''t know that much about the military, you know! Or it could have been canceled by left-over Clintonites in the military! That''s as good a reason as blaming Bush, is it not????

[bobnjersey]

[Ten weeks after 9/11, Fury and a team of U.S. Army Delta Force soldiers joined CIA operatives and Afghan fighters known as mujahideen under the command of a warlord named General Hazrat Ali, to whom the CIA paid millions in cash. ]

maybe they should have paid them ''after'' they caught him. so much for incentive.

[bobnjersey]

[Bush doesn''''t know that much about the military, you know! Or it could have been canceled by left-over Clintonites in the military! That''''s as good a reason as blaming Bush, is it not????]
[Posted by zhynaryll at 05:36 PM : Oct 02, 2008]

there were ''clintonites'' in the military? i thought he gutted the military and the cia ... killed vince foster ... and destroyed the holy grail. i''m surprised you didn''t open w/ the ''could have been clinton'' reference.

what exactly does bush know much about ... anything?

[flajoe1]

This is an old story. Nothing new here...

Say...How do I get CBS to help me push my book?

[jn122736]

This is an old story. Nothing new here...

Say...How do I get CBS to help me push my book?

Posted by Flajoe1 at 05:44 PM : Oct 02, 2008
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You might try writing something worth printing!

[lmartink]

This is the way Afghanistan is.

Despite the puppet Karzai in Kabul, the warlords have run the rest of Afghanistan for centuries. They have the power. It is quite likely that this warlord took our offer of millions of dollars, and engineered the escape of Osama bin Laden at the same time. He called for an attack in one direction, while he knew Osama was escaping to safety in the other direction. Such a feat would bring this warlord great prestige and honor in Afghanistan.

When queried about this, the Afghanis will shrug their shoulders and say, "That''s Afhanistan."

But, then, the jerks in the White House should have known this. I went to college and I knew it was happening simply because that''s the way Afghanistan is.

It''s the same reason Pakistan has not found bin Laden. There is no prestige or honor in it.

[govwatch-2009]

For all intent and purpose Bin Laden is dead. Videos are fakes, they contain no proof of life.

[imnho]

Bush was completly clueless when it came to matters invoving the presidency. The fact that the not ready for prime time leadership screwed this up is not a suprize. Everything he tries turns into ashe. This guy basically has srewed up hat know body thought could be screwed up.

Sounds like a nice story - sounds like he should make a nice profit from his book.

Whether it''s the truth or not, who knows - but the one thing that is evident is that he''s making a lot of guesses:

""Had we gone up that ridgeline towards that location, Osama bin Laden may have been 500 meters away. We might have run right into him," Fury tells Pelley."

""He moved as far as he could and then got out and either walked across or was carried across into Pakistan, free and clear," Fury tells Pelley.
"

Right. Maybe Bin Laden flapped his magical wings and flew over the border.

Fact is, it doesn''t matter how he got across the border - clearly those we entrusted to get Bin Laden - GW Bush and the military - failed.

As for the fact that we paid millions or even billions of dollars to the various Afghan warlords, we should have been paying for results - not just giving them the money and hoping they would do something for it.

[hothead007]

OSAMA LADEN IS THE CREATION OF THE TERRORIST UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THEIR IS NO EXISTANCE OF ANY SUCH THING AS ALQAEDA ALL THIS ARE IMAGINARY FICTITIOUS CHARACTERS BUT CIA ON THE ORDERS OF THE SATAN BUSH AND HIS DEVIL CRONIES TO FOOL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

[petro49l]

George W. Bush promised the Saudis that Bin Laden will not be captured or harmed by the Coalition. The Pakistani Army defends Waziristan. Islamabad could fire a thermo-nuclear warhead at Afghanistan and strike an American target. Bush has indicated that he would declare war on Iran. OPEC definitely controls the region.

[pensacola98]

I am skeptical to believe this officer, or this news article. No Delta Force officer would disclose or leak information like this, because if they did, they know they are violating the law. Readers are hungry to believe something, and there are no shortages of people looking for a sucker to feed a great story.

Malarchy....all of it!!!

[strmrnnr]

I do not believe it either. The story is a good one, but the mannerisms of the man telling the story in the video tell me he is NOT a hardened D-Force fighter. For one thing he would not talk with his hands when he is using his mouth - it is one or the other - unless nessesary. He blinks too much - every time you blink you, miss something - D-Force fighters don''t miss much.

I would expect to find a man with his mannerisms in a science lab somewhere, trying to explain a theory that was passed on to him through psychosis, but has no proof of his discovery.

In that respect the story may be true. I have not met the man before - has he supplied accurate information in the past??

[libluv2cnsor]

OSAMA LADEN IS THE CREATION OF THE TERRORIST UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THEIR IS NO EXISTANCE OF ANY SUCH THING AS ALQAEDA ALL THIS ARE IMAGINARY FICTITIOUS CHARACTERS BUT CIA ON THE ORDERS OF THE SATAN BUSH AND HIS DEVIL CRONIES TO FOOL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE


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wow..that has as much faith in conspiracy as christians have faith in jesus christ. AGAIN..you keep ranting about satan and the devil..you do understand that if you believe in satan and the devil THEN YOU PRETTY MUCH have to believe in god and angels..are you sure you are an athiest?? or just a disgruntled closet religious person?

[mjthere]

For all intent and purpose govwatch at 08:01 PM : Oct 02, 2008 is dead. Posts and Videos are fakes, they contain no proof of life.

[mjthere]

Posted by liberalme at 04:15 PM : Oct 02, 2008
The few times our military had Bin Laden in their sites,
IS AMAZING - DID B L HAVE A PASS? unless you means Sights not sites.

[downsteamjim]

Joe Biden would have killed bin Laden but he ran out of paper clips.

[runningralph]

Islamic jihadists will continually see that while they were praying and chanting others have gained competitive edge in business and technology. They will try to rectify that disadvantage by armed attacks. This is bin Laden''s motivation, same as the other terrorists. He is a big name, but just one of millions.
Westerners who hope to resist jihad should focus on the best method of resistance and keep in mind what will happen if our resistance is unsuccessful.

[ranger101st2]

Cannot believe some of you numb-nuts are blaming liberals, B. Obama, Joe Biden, etc. Blaming everyone except the people in charge. GW Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. decided to "outsource" this mission to the Afghans who were brought off and could not care less about OBL. Why wasn''t 10th Mountain used? They were in country, were in thier element, but were not used. Fury''s plan sounds good. Sneak in from the back door and take ''em by surprise. Since OBL would have been killed/captured, Bush would not have a "boogeyman" to instill fear in Americans so he could win another term. Well, he stole the 1st election, and was leaving NOTHING to chance. I cannot wait to hear this Delta Operator''s story, coz its from the "horses mouth." The decision to invade Iraq was set in stone from Day 1 of this Administration. A war we did NOT need. Iraq was no threat at all, just a ploy to make money and secure oil contracts. It pulled all the good resources out of the Afghan theatre, and sent to Iraq. You want more of the same the next 4 yrs? Then vote for that Repuke ticket, the one with the unqaulified VP that says the post should have more power. Wat a joke. Are you people gonna fall for this? Dalton Fury you did ur job, even when the higher ups gave you close to nothing to work with. Bravo Zulu Sir! "Rhyno" LRS A Co. 327, 1st BCT 101st AB

[thoseb]

It`s all a scam anyway.

check out the documentary zeitgeist. you can
watch it for free on

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

[hurtback34]

In 2004 we elected George Bush instead of John Kerry as our president. In 2008 we need to elect John McCain instead of Barrack Obama. With the way things are now in our country today we need a president who has experience in politics and has some foreign policy expereince. We need a president who''s ready to lead from day 1 and one that doesn''t need a manual on how to run a nation with him evry hour of every day until he figures it own on his own. Senator Barrack Obama''s experience is way too under qualified to be granted the most prestigous job of being President of the United States of America. Senator John McCain has experience in politics and has more foreign policy expereince then Senator Barrack Obama. Just because Senator John McCain is a Republican doesn''t mean it will be another 4 more year of the same policys because Senator John McCain puts his country needs above his own needs. We do need change this election but we need it to be the right kind of change. Senator John McCain we give us the rigth kind of change that we need in America today. The only thing Senator Barrack Obama chages is his promises. Senator John McCain has already been a hero of 1 war and if we give him the chance he will once again be the hero of the War''s in Iraq and Afghanistan. The stakes are to great this year''s election not to put someone in office that is unexperience in politics, that''s why we need to elect Senator John McCain as our next President of The United States of America.

[cybergeezera]

Bin Laden and the Taliban better look out now! Biden sent his lawyer kid to Iraq! They''re going to SUE the place to pieces!

[ranger25th]

It''s great to hear some one finally come out and talk about this. For those of you who question it, whether or not he is really delta by scrutinizing his body movements or whatever... get a clue. Are you military or delta for that matter, have you seen things that make you want to die yourself? And if you think G.W. Bush and his staff did everything in the best interest of the country or it''s soldiers, then you the same kind of people that allow communist states like Russia, N. Korea and China to exist. Go live there if you like to blindly follow some one.

[ranger25th]

It''s great to hear some one finally come out and talk about this. For those of you who question it, whether or not he is really delta by scrutinizing his body movements or whatever... get a clue. Are you military or delta for that matter, have you seen things that make you want to die yourself? And if you think G.W. Bush and his staff did everything in the best interest of the country or it''s soldiers, then you the same kind of people that allow communist states like Russia, N. Korea and China to exist. Go live there if you like to blindly follow some one. By the way Ranger101st2, good job with the post, you hit it dead center. One last thing, for whoever said this info is classified, it''s not, it''s public knowledge some people just are too lazy to look for it and even if it was, I guess it shows some people are more patriotic than others.

[apr53]

Bush didn''t want Osama killed,he needed him as an excuse for Iraq.

[ohmyapplepie-2009]

Seem to me the only person talking about Afghanstan and killing Bin Laden is Obama. Where is John?
Oh yea he''s still has 99 more years in Iraq.

How long can you republicans hold on to your sinking ship cut the line and let John and Sara float away before they take you down with them.

[kesac4650]

This guy speculates on who failed to grant approval on one hand and then confesses his own failure to execute well on the other hand.
CBS, headlines that as a plan being "nixed", because that is what they want us to believe.

[dacthecat]

A similar story is told in a book called Not a Good Day to Die: The Untold Story of Operation Anaconda
by Sean Naylor.

The problem is that the US military is not properly structured to fight a guerilla insurgency - using Western (British/French) tactics against Eastern-style asymmetric strategies has never worked --AND will not no matter how much the US Officer corps expects it to.

Small unit light infantry tactics using a bottom up approach allowing the soldiers on the ground to make decisions is the only way to engage a guerilla insurgency. The soldiers on the ground have had poor leadership and ridiculous protocols including having to wait for approval from MacDill AFB in Tampa, FL.

[oly_joe]

The only way Bush and the Army could have killed
bin Laden was to drop A-Bombs on half of Afghanistan
and they would have still missed him!

[jgg000]

My hunch is Pakistan wouldn''t fully cooperate.

[republic1776]

Funny how these claims come out when they release thier "book" $$$

[oly_joe]

Bush should have dug up Lawrence of Arabia .. LOL

[truthspeake2]

...and Americans feel safer with Republicans in charge??? Amazing!

[carmenrob]

Afghanistan without getting Osama bin Ladin and instead move into Iraq. My astonishment continues. Too bad many people won''t be able to see or hear this story due to 1) they don''t care, 2) are watching "sitcoms" or 3) too busy working two jobs to hold an apt. and feed their children.

[carmenrob]

Afghanistan without getting Osama bin Ladin and instead move into Iraq. My astonishment continues. Too bad many people won''t be able to see or hear this story due to 1) they don''t care, 2) are watching "sitcoms" or 3) too busy working two jobs to hold an apt. and feed their children.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[fire183704]

The Proclaimed Officer of Delta,has some things to answer for.As ex-military member I ask how this information was approved for release,how information such as this puts soldiers in theater at risk.And just an observation the individual in the interview had rapid blinking while in conversation about events ,this action is known as being a tell for disceitfull nature.How much research and effort was made to validate this info?

[stevex47]

How many years have the bin ladens and boosh''s been making billions of dollars?

There''s your answer. And pailin connects Obama with terrorists is a true laugh at hypocrisy yet again from the reich wing failures.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[inventagod2]

bin Laden, or Tim Ossman - was never the ''bad guy''...

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.

[justmy3cents]

Like it or not Bin Laden has proven himself to be a creative and cunning military strategist. If one were to assume that he knew he was being tracked then it''s safe to also assume that any of his radio transmissions were tempered to manipulate the outcome of the battle. The same goes for the alleged sighting right before they called in the bombs. Given Bin Laden''s track record it''s not just possible it was a decoy, it''s probable. Yet those possibilities were absent from this story. Finally, 2000 yards in that type of terrain might as well have been 20 miles. Yes, they probably were close but don''t equate that distance to the stroll you take around the block after dinner. While I have total respect for the depth of the Delta Force let''s not forget that there''s a reason the Soviets weren''t able to accomplish much there either.