Oct. 1, 2008

What Do Polls Mean Come Election Day?

CBS News/YouGov Electoral College Model Shows How States Affect Vote Outcome

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(CBS)  National polls, including CBS News Polls, can measure the preference of voters nationwide. But the winner in a presidential election is decided by electoral votes accumulated state-by-state. CBS News has partnered with YouGov/Polimetrix to model how shifts in the national horserace numbers would most likely affect the overall electoral vote outcome.

Guided by the results of two previous CBS News/New York Times national polls, YouGov/Polimetrix then modeled 50 state electorates for CBS News, incorporating information from 26,300 online interviews with registered voters.

A CBS News/New York Times Poll conducted September 21-24, showed the Democratic ticket of Barack Obama and Joe Biden with a 47 percent to 42 percent lead over Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin.

YouGov/Polimetrix applied the 5-point lead to their 50-state national results weighted to each state’s relative vote size, demographics, and matched to the CBS News/New York Times Poll in national party identification and ideology.


The 5-Point Lead Scenario

This technique makes it possible to estimate the probability that each candidate would carry any given state - as of now - in a national race. Under the 5-point scenario, the most likely outcome would give Obama 313 electoral votes. There would be almost zero chance of a McCain Electoral College victory if Obama led him by 5 points on Election Day.

Under this scenario, Obama’s winning coalition would come from wins in battleground states like Nevada, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Minnesota, Colorado, New Hampshire and Michigan. In this model, he would also carry Indiana. Other battleground states like Ohio would become more competitive for Obama, but most probably would remain in the Republican column. So would Florida.

Obama would hold all the states that voted for Al Gore in 2000 and add five new ones: New Hampshire, Virginia, Colorado, Missouri and Indiana.

Since battleground states might also shift, there are also ranges of possible outcomes. With small shifts in the battleground states, Obama’s Electoral College count with a 5-point national lead could range from 313 to 355 electoral votes.

Most likely scenario with a 5-point Obama lead:



The Three-Point Lead Scenario

The state-by-state outcome also shifts with changes in the national margin. At the moment, Obama leads in all national polls. With an Obama lead of only three percentage points nationally, the most likely outcome produced by our model is Obama winning with 302 electoral votes. But he could win as many as 330 or as few as 290.

Since many states are likely to have relatively lopsided outcomes, relatively few states change with changing margins of victory. The most likely scenario for a 3-point Obama victory changes the electoral vote allocation in our model only in Indiana, which would revert back to its more usual Republican status. That would give Obama 302 electoral votes.

Most likely scenario with a 3-point Obama lead:



The 1-Point Lead Scenario

The most likely outcome with the 1-point Obama lead model is 284 electoral votes. But here the range includes a loss (with only 267 electoral votes), or a victory with 304 electoral votes. A close national race - a 1-point Obama win - would also most likely turn Virginia and Nevada back to red, giving Obama 284 electoral votes.

Most likely scenario with a 1-point Obama lead:



What Does It Mean For The Candidates?

As CBS News senior political correspondent Jeff Greenfield reports, if you figure Obama has a 5 point national lead (and as of Oct. 1 poll, it’s 9 percentage points) and apply that on a state-by-state basis, you find that Obama holds all of the states John Kerry won in 2004, plus Virginia, Iowa, Missouri, and three states from the interior West where Republicans usually run strong. That way to win includes Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, a shift that gives Obama 302 electoral votes - 32 more than the magic 270 number. Design your own "Ways to Win" on an interactive map right here.

As Jeff Greenfield noted on the CBS Evening News, there are recent state polls that offer a similar picture.

"Looking at recent state polls, it’s not good news for McCain. Obama is statistically tied, or even ahead, in North Carolina, Florida (which decided the 2000 race) and Ohio (decisive in 2004)," Greenfield said.



How The CBS News/YouGov Model Works: The national horserace percentage is not distributed evenly across all states. States differ in size (how much they contribute to a candidate’s national vote total) registration, turnout, demographics and partisanship and, of course, candidate preference.

To model these state-level differences, we incorporated 51 additional sets of interviews with voters conducted by YouGov/Polimetrix, matched to voter registration lists, partisan and demographic profiles in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia, and which were then adjusted to reflect the latest national CBS News/New York Times poll horserace estimate. Using all these data, each state was assigned a probability of going to either Obama or McCain.

The electoral tallies and maps are a model of the Electoral College’s most likely outcome if a candidate were to win the national popular vote by 5 percent, 3 percent, or 1 percentage point. Because some states shape up as closer contests than others, a shift in national vote choice will mean a change in the likely winner in the close states more readily than in less competitive states.

YouGov/Polimetrix selected respondents for this modeling from its online panel of 1.1 million Americans. They were matched to a sample of registered voters from each state to ensure representativeness.

As the campaign goes on, the underlying pattern of results could change state by state. CBS News will again look at the state by state implications of the national polling numbers at later points in the campaign.


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by mikebr6 October 3, 2008 4:04 AM EDT
Democrates Guilty of Bad Legislation and Corruption!
Illinois, Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, Barney Franks, etc.

The people clearly have indicated their discontent with the %u2018%u2018Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008%u2019%u2019 and I call it %u201CCash for Trash%u201D. You really want me to think you represent the people of your district? It was "Cash for Trash" but now it''s "Cash for Trash & Garbage" Seems the Senate had to have all their "PORK" leaving none for the House!
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by hjedtyj October 3, 2008 2:06 AM EDT
Bush/Cheney called 800 Battalions to harass Remaining House Members to Vote for Bailout Tomorrow!!

Just heard this - hot off the press at 9:30pm, Thursday night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will Bush/Cheney start WW III over this? We know they have been itching to start a war to counter/cancel November''s elections so they can stay in power for the past year. Is this it?

The House members whom voted against are those who represent poor and low income areas throughout the country and areas that do not benefit from bailout. They are enough in numbers to make a difference in Monday''s voting. Let''s keep supporting them!!!

Pass this around to others so they know they have and are supported by the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by specialty8 October 2, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
I might have voted for Obama but there are still to many shady people in his past that he is not telling us about.I do not have to tell who they are,everyone has heard about them.What kind of influence did one of the biggest racist in the country have on him after 25 yrs? You just can''t stand up for the guy one week and then throw him away because it does not look good for the election,Sounds like the Rev. should have picked his freinds better.Come on media we can find out anything about Palin,down to what color her toe nails are,what about Obama and his so called friends,well not anymore,he stays away from them now or until this election is over.
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by newyorker26 October 2, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
Because of this Huge bailout mess McCain has no choice but raise taxes after he takes office.The Democrats just giving out handouts have really hurt our economy.I don''t believe in polls But I do believe in the American Spirit
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by newyorker26 October 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
Because of this mess on wall street and it''s huge bail out. McCain has no choice but to raise taxes.I don''t believe in polls i do believe in the american spirit.McMcain/Palin08
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by hawksprings October 2, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
"Dewey Defeats Truman"
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by frosty021 October 2, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
What is wrong with you,praiseallah1? Are you so unsure of your pick in this election that you can''t stick to the issues, you have to resort to made-up lies? I would not admit that my candidate was so poor that I to resort to those tactics to get them elected. I''m thankful I do not have to do that for my candidate. Obama is what this country needs right now. He is fresh, young and full of orginial ideas. He''s also the most exciting candidate we have had in a long time and I can''t wait to make him our president!
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by bretster7 October 2, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
Spin this one Obamabots

http://www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs


That is, if you have the guts and the intellectual honesty to watch the whole thing.

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by leighg1 October 2, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
McCain always reminded people "I was a POW", "I was a POW". That''s all he got for building his political career. I am tired of hearing it all the time. We need a stable and intelligent leader at this critical moment of our country, not just a POW.
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by phillysage October 2, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
John McCain has proved himself even more idiotic than Bush in his pick of Sarah Palin as Vice President and potential President should he become unable to serve for whatever reason. He wanted to flatter women I suppose, but instead he has belittled and insulted them. She is worse than a token appointment--she''s an absolute embarrassment. But worse than his insult to women, is his apparent disregard for the security of our nation should she indeed become President. Let''s send her back to Alaska where she can look at Russia out of her window. The heart of America is finally reviving thank God and seeing the light. Good-bye G.O.P. Happy Days are Here Again!!!! Alleluia
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by praiseallah1 October 2, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
Obama got AID''s from Larry Sinclair?

I just read that Larry Sinclair who claimes to have had a homosexual affair with Barack Obama been diagnosed with HIV AIDS and believes Obama is infected with the deadly disease and urges him to be diagnosed immediately.

Videos on YouTube such http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUNEip42xsM documents the Press Conference detailing Barack Obamas use of crack cocaine and having homosexual relations with other men while he was the Senator of Illinois.
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by skyk239 October 2, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
There''''s a sucker born every minute!

Posted by pmsnbc2 at 12:48 PM : Oct 02, 2008

Why is that? HE doesn''t agree with the "Party"??? Not much of a Fascist are you there?? Haven''t you people figured it out yet? EVERYONE else has!!
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by skyk239 October 2, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
Boy, the only thing missing from this piece is that if McCain is up by 20 points, Obama still wins. CBS'''' bias is always obvious.

McCain/Palin ''''08

Posted by wildaces at 12:34 PM : Oct 02, 2008


LOL You''d better find that rock there Sparky!! LOL I don''t know about the people around YOU but here they''d vote for Obama if he were PURPLE!! LOL
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by skyk239 October 2, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
McCain got his 84 millions from the US Dept. of Treasury. With the economic downturn, Sen. Obama''''''''s camp, relying on donors like you and me, will be hurt. We are in the last days of campaign. This election is not locked in yet. Let''''''''s all give Sen. Obama one last push by donating $5, $10,... $50 whatever you can. We must not let our nation to fall into the disastrous hands of McCain. You can skip a cup of coffee, or a movie. Please help yourself (big!) and your country by helping Sen. Obama to win this race.


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Posted by leighg1 at 12:06 PM : Oct 02, 2008


Already beat you to it!! LOL
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by skyk239 October 2, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
Dear dgshiner : You are seriously demented if you believe that garbadge you just wrote. No matter how much school the black man had- he is NOT QUALIFED to lead ANYTING. IF he were WHITE I would say the ame thing.

Posted by john43218 at 12:09 PM : Oct 02, 2008

How so? Where do you people get off saying things like that? This man has been running against the Clintons and NOW the Republican Attack Machine. NOW he''s faced with taking over a nation in Complete Financial Melt Down and YOU can''t figure out he''s qualified? This man has stood there, never wavered and can still inspire the youth of this nation like no one I''ve seen since Kennedy. After all THEY are the ones who must try to salvage the MESS we have left them. Obama IS willing to change course... He IS willing to move away from the Bush Economic Plan. Now ANYONE with a brain should understand that we MUST do that!
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by skyk239 October 2, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
What Do Polls Mean Come Election Day?


NOT A DA*MN THING!!!

Posted by candy-apple at 01:00 PM : Oct 02, 2008

OH! You''d better bet on that!! I have never, in my 60 years on this planet, seen the average person in this Country THIS mad. They turned a very healthy nation economically, Balanced Budget and Surplus, over to George W. Bush and the Republican Party. THEY are NOT happy with either and they are about to find that out... BIG TIME!!
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by candy-apple October 2, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
What Do Polls Mean Come Election Day?


NOT A DA*MN THING!!!
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by leighg1 October 2, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
McCain got his 84 millions from the US Dept. of Treasury. With the economic downturn, Sen. Obama''s camp, relying on donors like you and me, will be hurt. We are in the last days of campaign. This election is not locked in yet. Let''s all give Sen. Obama one last push by donating $5, $10,... $50 whatever you can. We must not let our nation to fall into the disastrous hands of McCain. You can skip a cup of coffee, or a movie. Please help yourself (big!) and your country by helping Sen. Obama to win this race.

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
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by dgshiner October 2, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
White America you should be proud to elect your first Afro-American president. Here is a man that has benefit from the rules and regulations that you started when our country was founded. This young man has completed his education, that our country set up, refuted the obstacles that were set before him and is not asking for a handout but a Hand up to vote so that we can change our Country for the better. Don''t let the color of his skin make you frighten, also if you feel you made some mistakes in the past this is an excellent to Correct them with Liberty and Justice for all!
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by homespunlady October 2, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
Just an aside I''m trying to figure out.
When the House turned down the Bail out -the next day the Dollar STRENGTHENED (was worth more) and the price of a barrel of oil DROPPED by over $10.

For ME that''s great - but I haven''t been playing the stock casino for a while. Without the bailout my SAVINGS would BUY MORE and the COST of things like gasoline would follow oil and be CHEAPER.

On the other hand with the Senate vote OIL IS UP and the dollar seems to go DOWN - leaving my SAVINGS WORTH LESS and trending to WORTHLESS.

Seems to me the More CONSERVATIVE investors would be BETTER off if that bail out didn''t happen and the PONZI BELIEVERS would only be BUYING TIME and making matters worse if it does.

Of course if you''re REALLY INTO mortgaging our KIDS and GRANDKIDS FUTURE on BETS on a GRAND ROULETTE WHEEL...
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