WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2008

Financial Bailout Talks Head Into Weekend

Progress Reported As Key Democrat Sees Deal By Sunday; Republicans Not As Optimistic

    • Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., left, holds up draft legislation as Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., looks on, Sept. 26, 2008 on Capitol Hill in Washington.

      Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., left, holds up draft legislation as Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., looks on, Sept. 26, 2008 on Capitol Hill in Washington.  (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke)

    • President Bush walks out of the Oval Office to deliver remarks on the economic rescue plan negotiations, Friday, Sept. 26, 2008 in Washington.

      President Bush walks out of the Oval Office to deliver remarks on the economic rescue plan negotiations, Friday, Sept. 26, 2008 in Washington.  (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

    • Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., emerging from the bailout meeting at the White House Thursday, accounced,

      Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., emerging from the bailout meeting at the White House Thursday, accounced, "That agreement is obviously no agreement."  (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)

    • Dara Blumenthal of Brooklyn holds up a sign during a protest in front of Wall Street's New York Stock Exchange building on Thursday, reading, my bailout?""/>

      Dara Blumenthal of Brooklyn holds up a sign during a protest in front of Wall Street's New York Stock Exchange building on Thursday, reading, "I've Got a 4.0 GPA, $90,000 in debt, & no job. Where's my bailout?"  (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

    • Protesters with Code Pink demonstrate on Wall Street in front of a statue of George Washington and Federal Hall, Friday, Sept. 26, 2008 in New York.

      Protesters with Code Pink demonstrate on Wall Street in front of a statue of George Washington and Federal Hall, Friday, Sept. 26, 2008 in New York.  (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)

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(CBS/AP)  There were fresh signs of urgency at both the White House and the Capitol, one day after the rancorous White House session and the collapse of Washington Mutual, the largest failure in U.S. banking history. The Seattle-based institution had invested heavily in the now-moribund mortgage market.

Still, the Dow Jones industrials rose 121 points for the day as investors anticipated a weekend agreement.

In days of negotiations, the administration has accepted demands from lawmakers to give Congress considerable authority to oversee the bailout and require that the government try to renegotiate the bad mortgages it acquires so more borrowers could keep their homes. Paulson also relented to requests to limit the severance packages that corporate executives can receive from firms benefiting from the government bailout.

In addition, rather than provide $700 billion up front, as Paulson initially requested, Congress would approve the funds in stages. Under one approach, $250 billion would be made available at once, with the president able to certify the need for an additional $100 billion on his own authority. The final $350 billion would become available with a second presidential certification, although this time Congress would have authority to block it.

Any compromise is also expected to require the government to obtain partial ownership of any company it invests in.

Democrats, too, signaled they were ready to jettison some of their priorities.

Frank indicated they might ultimately drop a requirement that a portion of any profits from the rescue be funneled to a fund to build housing for low-income people. That mandate, deeply unpopular with Republicans, "is not an essential," Frank said.

While Democrats control a majority of both the House and Senate, their leaders have made it clear they will not force their rank and file to vote without Republican support on a bailout advanced by an unpopular president on an unwilling public.

In an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks poll, only 30 percent of those surveyed expressed support for Bush's package. Forty-five percent were opposed, with 25 percent undecided. The survey was conducted Thursday and had a margin of error or plus or minus 3.8 percentage points. It was conducted over the Internet by Knowledge Networks, which initially contacted people using traditional telephone polling methods and followed with online interviews.

Aides to lawmakers in both parties say telephone calls from constituents are running heavily against the bailout - in some cases nearly 100-1 against, making the vote a potentially tricky one for a candidate in a competitive race.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., and the ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee, called the Paulson proposal "badly structured," and backed it up with the opinions of over 200 economists who said the administration proposal to take on the bad debt of financial institutions is the wrong way to go.

"We need to do something to put liquidity in the market," he told Early Show anchor Maggie Rodriguez, but added, "If we adopt the Paulson plan or something close to it, we're making a big mistake."

Frank, who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, said there was a compromise agreed to by lawmakers, but that fell apart. "I signed on for a lot of jobs, [but] I didn't know I was going to be the referee for the independent Republican Civil War," Frank told Rodriguez.

Frank even suggested that the Republican infighting will only make the financial crisis worse by refusing to heed the warnings of imminent disaster by the President's top economic advisors. "Even if it hadn't been true, and I think it probably was, they make it true."

Frank said he was surprised that late yesterday the House Republicans come up with an entirely new plan, which he dubbed "an ambush plan." Frank blasted the Republicans who faced Secretary Paulson at committee hearings earlier this week and never brought their proposal to the table. "None of the Republicans now backing this new plan even mentioned it to him, because they knew he would say it wouldn't work," Frank said.

Frank conceded that the initial Paulson proposal had problems, which he and other Democrats sought to fix: "Some of the points Senator Shelby made we were also making. We wanted to amend the bill to provide some real needs to mortgage holders. I'd like to further amend the bankruptcy law to do it. They are still fighting over it. We want to curb some of the extreme authority the Secretary has. We want to put some language in there to protect the taxpayers but we did feel we had to negotiate in this framework."

Shelby said, however, that he was looking at neither President Bush nor Senator McCain for leadership in the crisis. "I'm looking at the economists that know more about the economy than Senator McCain and Senator Obama and President Bush and me and anybody else that I know of," he said. "They say we need to take some time - I don't mean a lot of time - and look at another structure or plan.

"I believe they're right."

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by pianoman42 September 27, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
A vicious example of the way to hell being paved with good intentions. The poor deserve good housing therefore they will get good housing therefore the subprime market therefore the collapse of AIG therefore the ''bailout'' of $2,300 from everyone. This ''bailout'' is a hope and a prayer. Hope it works. A real bailout would cost $40,000 each. Unaffordable.
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by gwjackie September 27, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
One thing about this the ceo''s that did this should not get anything. If you loan people money knowing that they can not pay this back as they should you are asking for this to happen. The realestate people caused most of this buy over priceing homes just to make more money. This is going to cost everone in the longrun maby having a home they owe 300.000 yhat may now only be worth 200.000 when this all shakes out.
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by Renegade.Rivers September 27, 2008 9:08 AM EDT
By allowing, nay demanding that government take control of every facet of our lives, and allowing government free rein to rule over us in ways that our government was never meant to rule over us, we have allowed our rights and freedoms to be taken from us as well. Until we as Americans are willing to realize that government alone cannot solve all of our problems, and that we as citizens must take some responsibility, and demand the right to solve some of the problems we are facing, we will never be the country that our forefathers envisioned. Until we become a country that lends a helping hand to those less fortunate than we are without expecting the government to do it for us, and until we let our dollars and cents actually create businesses, and services that are really in our best interest instead of allowing them to run ram shod over us with out a whimper or any protest, we are going to keep getting what we now have. As long as we continue to elect leaders that take the side of the large corporations, and allow these same entities to fund and support these candidates to the tune of billions of dollars, while we as citizens stand by and allow it to happen, we are going to continue to get what we pay for and allow. Because at the end of the day when its all said and done, and the chips are counted, we really have no one to blame but ourselves for allowing it to happen.
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by Renegade.Rivers September 27, 2008 9:07 AM EDT
This is not to say that there are not areas that government should be involved in, but at the same time, we can''t have both a cradle to grave caretaker that deals with and solves every problem that exist within the family and community, while the average citizen is allowed to take no responsibility and suffer no consequences for the bad decisions that they make and allow to be made for them in their own lives, and in the framework of the companies, and corporations that they own and control, and at the same time expect government to run either smoothly,or efficiently.

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by Renegade.Rivers September 27, 2008 9:06 AM EDT
This is exactly what or forefathers were so fearful of, and so often spoke against. The once popular adage that "the best government was the government that governed least," has long ago been left behind. We have become a society that expects, nay demands that government cure every one of our social ills, rather than expecting each man, woman, and child to take some responsibility, and have the wherewithal to solve some of the problems that exist on their own. Americans have become a nation of pantywaist, and irresponsible imbeciles, who are no longer expected to solve any of the problems that they encounter without the government holding their hand.

Instead of government being able to devote the time necessary to solve the problems that they should be solving, we have come to expect it to care for us, and baby us from the crib to the grave. With ever added control and regulation that is enacted, we create a new level of bureaucracy that in the long run creates more problems than it solves.

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by Renegade.Rivers September 27, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
What seems to me to be evident is that we have allowed the federal government to become so large that is no longer effective at anything beyond costing the American taxpayers trillions of dollars, and bouncing us from one crisis to another. Instead of allowing the state and local governments to take on the responsibilities that they could handle much better, at much cheaper cost, and with much more efficiency, we have allowed our leaders to put all of the control, and hence all of the failure within the beltways of Washington. Instead of trimming the federal government and eliminating the bureaucracy that defines our federal government, we have instead added level after level of bureaucracy onto a federal government that is already bursting at the seams with bureaucracy, and it is not working.

Every time there is a problem, whether it be at a local, state or federal level, we add a new level of bureaucracy to handle the problem instead of using agencies already in place to solve the problem, we have come to a point where we no longer know what agency and level of government actually has the controls and the powers to deal with the problem. Hence what we have is a situation where our government at all levels has become gridlocked.

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by Renegade.Rivers September 27, 2008 9:04 AM EDT
Whose Really to Blame

The further that this whole crisis goes, the more we come to realize that there is something that smells awful in Washington, and it isn''t the garbage. Over the past eight years, one crisis after another in America has become so common place that we have become a crisis driven society. We have been bouncing from crisis to crisis here in the United States faster than a super ball bounces on a hot concrete drive. It would take me a week to mention them all, but what has become clear is that our government, and the various departments that should be protecting us from these crisis is failing miserably. We can hardly think of any department within the federal government that has not had its share of turmoil, and scandal. What should be plainly evident to every American is that our government is failing miserably at both protecting us, and doing the job that it is there to do. These crisis, in reality are the fault of both parties, and their origins can be traced from one administration to another as far back as we want to look. Anyone that believes that our government is not failing miserably, must either be wearing blinders, or hiding in a closet.

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by txpatriot4us September 27, 2008 7:52 AM EDT
Why is CBS BLOCKING POSTS?
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by txpatriot4us September 27, 2008 7:10 AM EDT
THE DEMOCRATS WERE GOING TO GET MY SUPPORT, THAT IS NOW IN SERIOUS DOUBT! AS A REPUBLICAN THAT IS DISGUSTED WITH BUSH AND COMPANY I WAS READY TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS IN EVERY RACE.IF THEY ABET THIS THEFT OF THE TREASURY I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORDS AND EXPOSE THOSE THAT VOTED FOR THIS THEFT. I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO VOTE AGAINST THEM REGARDLESS OF WHICH PARTY THEY REPRESENT. DEMOCRAT THAT VOTED FOR IT = a VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN.IF BOTH VOTED FOR IT I''LL URGE A VOTE FOR THE INDEPENDANT CANDIDATES. I HAVE 2 THOUSAND FAMILIES IN MY CHURCH AND I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, I WILL CROSS THAT LINE. I AM AN AMERICAN AND A MINISTER.MAY GOD HELP US.
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by txpatriot4us September 27, 2008 7:09 AM EDT
THE DEMOCRATS WERE GOING TO GET MY SUPPORT, THAT IS NOW IN SERIOUS DOUBT! AS A REPUBLICAN THAT IS DISGUSTED WITH BUSH AND COMPANY I WAS READY TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS IN EVERY RACE.IF THEY ABET THIS THEFT OF THE TREASURY I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORDS AND EXPOSE THOSE THAT VOTED FOR THIS THEFT. I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO VOTE AGAINST THEM REGARDLESS OF WHICH PARTY THEY REPRESENT. DEMOCRAT THAT VOTED FOR IT = a VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN.IF BOTH VOTED FOR IT I''LL URGE A VOTE FOR THE INDEPENDANT CANDIDATES. I HAVE 2 THOUSAND FAMILIES IN MY CHURCH AND I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, I WILL CROSS THAT LINE. I AM AN AMERICAN AND A MINISTER.MAY GOD HELP US.
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by txpatriot4us September 27, 2008 7:08 AM EDT
THE DEMOCRATS WERE GOING TO GET MY SUPPORT, THAT IS NOW IN SERIOUS DOUBT! AS A REPUBLICAN THAT IS DISGUSTED WITH BUSH AND COMPANY I WAS READY TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS IN EVERY RACE.IF THEY ABET THIS THEFT OF THE TREASURY I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORDS AND EXPOSE THOSE THAT VOTED FOR THIS THEFT. I WILL URGE EVERYONE I KNOW TO VOTE AGAINST THEM REGARDLESS OF WHICH PARTY THEY REPRESENT. DEMOCRAT THAT VOTED FOR IT = a VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN.IF BOTH VOTED FOR IT I''LL URGE A VOTE FOR THE INDEPENDANT CANDIDATES. I HAVE 2 THOUSAND FAMILIES IN MY CHURCH AND I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, I WILL CROSS THAT LINE. I AM AN AMERICAN AND A MINISTER.MAY GOD HELP US.
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by payasyougo September 27, 2008 4:37 AM EDT
The video is just under 10 minutes. It''s full of facts derived from various news articles you can find each one doing a google search. It shows who the people were behind this housing debacle. The proof is doing your own research once you learn about the "Community Reinvestment Act", specifically, who is responsible, when, and why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o&eurl=http://blogsforjohnmccain.com/

Take the time to watch and you will want to flush everyone in congress from their housing legislation to the "farm bill".
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by leftyintexas September 27, 2008 3:53 AM EDT
You republicons don''t seriously believe you that your party is going to win in November after the way YOU s-crewed this country for eight miserable years, do you??? You and your party are just a bad joke.
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by demwatcher September 27, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
"McBush/ Mooseburger 2008, because things could be worse if we try!

Posted by Simon9999 at 08:33 PM : Sep 26, 2008"

And they have tried - it''s called Obama/Biden.
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by wardoglrs September 27, 2008 2:24 AM EDT
Join in the fed.


http://www.endthefed.us/
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by lanawonders September 27, 2008 1:53 AM EDT
NO...Bailout
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by bozworth4 September 27, 2008 1:26 AM EDT
Divide 700 billion between the taxpayers, legal citizens, and working class people. Watch these people spend and put people to work thes people then spend and put yet more to work. The economy grows without borrowing. Banks get real on interest rates, some quit because of no business, others loan wisely. But the taxpayers get more than crumbs of bread back for a true economic stimulus. Will never work though because the fat cats at the top don''t get a cut. The way It figures the amount of money returned to the people would allow houses without mortages and remodels and major purchases without finance. But then again the fat cats would be out of the rotation. Never work!! Just a thought?
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by simon9999-2009 September 26, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
McBush/ Mooseburger 2008, because things could be worse if we try!
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by tibu987 September 26, 2008 11:24 PM EDT

Call it anything you want, it is still a "bailout"

I oppose the bailout in any form.
Let the chips fall where they may.
A recession or depression will allow the country to regain its position with time and in better shape.
Put a freeze,lid on mortgage payments until it gets sorted out.
Many Wall Street and mortgage companies made hundreds of millions of dollars in their usurious positions and took obscene salaries and bonuses, some in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
I would not now like to see them rewarded for their avarice and mismanagement.



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by tincup356 September 26, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
can you say trust? no one in Washington can its sad when all they want to do is blame but never to all involved.they better quit worrying about a bailout and worry about vote out as this is clear proof theses people are not capable of honestly running our country and we don''t need them in office NOT representing us
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