Sept. 26, 2008

Debate Still In Limbo

Democrats Blame McCain For Interrupting Process Of Reaching Bailout Plan Compromise

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The first debate between John McCain and Barack Obama, scheduled for tonight, remained in limbo last night after the presidential candidates left a White House meeting without a deal on a $700 billion economic rescue plan.

Democrats immediately blamed McCain for disrupting the effort at compromise, saying his decision to suspend his campaign and return to Washington shifted the klieg lights of the White House contest to the tense and delicate congressional negotiations.

Those discussions, which had appeared promising early in the day, culminated in the late-afternoon meeting held by President Bush. But instead of producing a joint statement of success, McCain and Obama slipped out of a gathering that those present described as contentious and unproductive.

"What this looked like to me was a rescue plan for John McCain for two hours," said an angry Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), who had all but declared the deal done earlier in the day. "To be distracted for two to three hours for political theater doesn't help."

In interviews after the meeting, Obama pointed a finger at his rival for the faltering talks, saying on CNN that "when you start injecting presidential politics into delicate negotiations, you can actually inject more problems, rather than less."

His spokesman Bill Burton was more blunt, accusing McCain of turning "a national crisis into an occasion to promote his campaign. It's become just another political stunt, aimed more at shoring up the senator's political fortunes than the nation's economy."

In response, senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt accused Obama of playing politics, saying the negotiations had been far from resolved and challenging the Democratic nominee to "publish the list of members of Congress who were going to vote for this. Because in reality, there is not a list of a majority of Democrats and Republicans who are willing to vote for it."

McCain said he is "hopeful" that a deal can be reached soon, despite opposition from many House Republicans who have consistently balked at the bailout cost and produced a far different proposal in the 11th hour yesterday.

"There are a variety of concerns, I think a lot of them have been satisfied," McCain said on ABC's "World News Tonight" after the meeting. "And I believe and I'm hopeful that we can satisfy all of them and move forward very quickly. They are aware of the urgency."

Obama and McCain both held out hope that they could still meet in Oxford, Miss., tonight for their long-scheduled first debate as they settled in to overnight in Washington. "I think he knows that I'm going to be there," Obama said in his own appearance on ABC. But McCain's campaign said that no travel decisions had been made as of last night.

"I understand how important this debate is and I am hopeful," McCain said on ABC News.

The independent Commission on Presidential Debates said yesterday that it is "moving forward" with its plans for the face-off.

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By Michael D. Shear and Jonathan Weisman
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by dicktracy200 September 30, 2008 6:10 AM EDT


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by obama08and12 September 26, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
louiville2 - I think you should be on McCain''s ticket for VP! You know more than Sarah PiLIAR...when asked if she could give examples of any regulations/reform McCain supported in his 26 years in Congress that may have prevented this financial crisis, in her One-On-One interview with Katie of CBSnews, she couldn''t give an answer! Her reply: I''ll have to look that up and get back to you...
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by obama08and12 September 26, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
Does this look familiar?

McCain Backs Out of Debate in California
Bush Campaign Claims Senator is Abandoning State
Monday: February 28, 2000

"With new polls showing his campaign dead in the water among California Republicans, Arizona Senator John McCain has pulled out of a long time scheduled debate with Texas Govenor George Bush set for Thursday in Los Angeles.

Try to tell me McCain''s not pulling a political move, but instead putting his country first, during this "CRISIS", as he says.

Perhaps too...since the FBI is investagating the financial meltdown...McCain is afraid he may have to the relive the KEATING FIVE SCANDAL he was involved in while Govenor of Arizona in the 1980s

Or...maybe too he has realized the "Poor Judgement" in picking Sarah Piliar as his running mate!
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by oneopinion September 26, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
Moron check your facts before you post.
Posted by louiville2 at 12:16 PM : Sep 26, 2008

I think the right wing would win the name calling contest pretty regularly in these posts. For some reason, they always feel threatened by logic and come out swinging. Sad.
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by oneopinion September 26, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
Senator McCain, you''ve become a total embarrassment. I used to think you offered a couple merits, but no more. Your grandstanding as an economic expert is laughable. A hero as a POW, but a coward today. Let the debates begin. Show us you can think on your feet. Telling lies in a forum is a challenge, but I know you''re up to it.
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
"The administration not only identified the problem, it also recommended a solution. In June 2004, then-Deputy Treasury Secretary Samuel Bodman said: "We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision."

Bush got involved in the effort personally, speaking out for the cause of reform: "Congress needs to pass legislation strengthening the independent regulator of government-sponsored enterprises like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, so we can keep them focused on the mission to expand home ownership," he said in December. He even mentioned GSE reform in this year''s State of the Union address." -Washington Post
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
"Neither McCain nor Obama are on the actual comittees that are negotiating the details of this bail out plan."
Posted by slimyone

one indisputable fact is John McCain has actively been seeking reforms that may have prevented the current situation. Congressional records show McCain Co-sponsored S. 190 the Federal Housing Enterprise Act of 2005.

Hmmmmm I guess your wrong/lying as usual McCain is the one to help solve this problem. LOL s. 190 wad shot down by Dod and fellow Dems. Moron check your facts before you post.
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
"While the barbs fly back and forth between the McCain and Obama campaigns as to who can better manage the current financial crisis, one indisputable fact is John McCain has actively been seeking reforms that may have prevented the current situation. Congressional records show McCain Co-sponsored S. 190 the Federal Housing Enterprise Act of 2005. On May 25, 2006 McCain made this impassioned plea on the floor of the Senate.

Where was Obama and what was his position on Freddie/Fannie while McCain was calling for reform? Obama was the beneficiary of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the lobbyists McCain mentions in this speech, making him the #2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money."
Slimyone
Y
ou there?

Crickets......

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by usclimey September 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
Why the Media will not question Barack Hussein Obama some of these questions is something each voter should question!!!

Posted by PollsLie

They don''t ask questions becaue the points are old, long-time disproven outright lies from Imarightwinglunatic.com, Limpbore, Shammity and the rest. The media has no business giving creedence to any of it.
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
"While the barbs fly back and forth between the McCain and Obama campaigns as to who can better manage the current financial crisis, one indisputable fact is John McCain has actively been seeking reforms that may have prevented the current situation. Congressional records show McCain Co-sponsored S. 190 the Federal Housing Enterprise Act of 2005. On May 25, 2006 McCain made this impassioned plea on the floor of the Senate.

Where was Obama and what was his position on Freddie/Fannie while McCain was calling for reform? Obama was the beneficiary of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the lobbyists McCain mentions in this speech, making him the #2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money."
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by usclimey September 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
Posted by PollsLie

And your country''s constitution affirms freedom of religion. Of course your party''s opinion of the Constitution is that it''s a GD piece of paper - so I guess in your mind, disallowing a man on the basis of his religion is fine. (not that any sane person thinks Obama''s any more Muslim than I am).
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by papabc September 26, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain will participate in Friday night''s debate against Democrat Barack Obama, a McCain aide told CNN.
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
Tell me looserville2, how are they going to vote on the details of a plan that hasn''''t even been written yet?


lol!





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Posted by Stormey0ne


Bwahahaha lonelyone make sure your loser bimbo OB get''s his makeup on straight. It''s in the writing/voting that the next president will be strapped to. loser
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by papabc September 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
When Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer decided to retire in 1995, she hand-picked local left-winger Barack Obama as her successor. In order to introduce Obama to influential liberals in the district, she held a function at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. This was, really, the beginning of Obama''''''''s political career, and it linked him forever with Ayers and Dohrn, with whom, as his campaign has acknowledged, he continues to have a friendly relationship. Ayers and Dohrn were famous radicals, and fugitives from the law, in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Dohrn, actually, was the more famous of the two; she was the head, as I recall, of Students for a Democratic Society or one of its factions. Dohrn was crazy. She is the only public figure, to my knowledge, to approve publicly and enthusiastically of the Charles Manson murders.
WILL THESE FRIENDS OF FLUFFOBAMA BE A PART OF HIS FOREIGN POLICY?



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Posted by PollsLie at 11:41 AM : Sep 26, 2008
Well said!

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WILL THESE FRIENDS OF FLUFFOBAMA BE A PART OF HIS FOREIGN POLICY?

Yes... Be afraid- be Very Afraid.
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by usclimey September 26, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
Obama has been stalling debates for six months now! Where does this crackhead get off! This is hilarious!

His accusing McCain of stalling the bailout is hilarious also! The bailout is stalled because Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry want SOCIALIST control of their money...and they want not only their investments covered, but their EARNINGS! Where do the democraps and their screwed up Socialist leadership get off trying to blame everything on somebody else?

Posted by StormyTexan

Are you in the same world as the rest of us? Six months ago, the primaries were still going, why would Obama have debated McCain when he wasn''t even the candidate yet. Didn''t you read the stories, it''s the right wing Republicans holding everything up by putting out a plan that Bush doesn''t like. Pity they couldn''t have shown such backbone over the last 8 years, then maybe the country wouldn''t be as big a disaster as it is now.
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by papabc September 26, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
McCain needs to be there to look out the interest of his voters. That is what he and Obama were elected to do.

If Obama know how to FIX this problem and the is going on now then why is he not putting it before the fellow democrats? Is He and they hiding the possible FIX or are they just full of S_H_I_I_T.
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by john43218 September 26, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
Great, lets see the Maverick kill the Mini Man. Suspend things only if there was no definate progress, there is progress, so he is attending, the media spins everything-- McCain did the right thing- He did what a Commander would do. Put the Country First.
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by louiville2 September 26, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
Neither McCain nor Obama are on the actual committees that are negotiating the details of the bailout. So McCain is just pulling a stunt to get in a few photo ops and avoid the debates.


Why is McCain running scared!






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Posted by Stormey0ne

LOL you do know they have to vote on this Right? And you do know that both parties will listen to them since one of them WILL be president Right?
Dem''s get dumber every day
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by papabc September 26, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
Why is does Obmam see the Party and more important than the country? Harry Reid the same? Murtha? Pelosi?
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by john43218 September 26, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
Great, lets see the Maverick kill the Mini Man. Suspend ( McCain said)only if there was no definate progress, there is progress, so he is attending, the media spins everything-- such a crock they are.
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