WASHINGTON, Sept. 23, 2008

Dems To Relent On Offshore Drilling

Democrats Will Allow 25-Year Ban On Drilling Off Coast To Expire

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(AP)  Democrats have decided to allow a quarter-century ban on drilling for oil off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts to expire next week, conceding defeat in a months-long battle with the White House and Republicans set off by $4 a gallon gasoline prices this summer.

House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., told reporters Tuesday that a provision continuing the moratorium will be dropped this year from a stopgap spending bill to keep the government running after Congress recesses for the election.

Republicans have made lifting the ban a key campaign issue after gasoline prices spiked this summer and public opinion turned in favor of more drilling. President Bush lifted an executive ban on offshore drilling in July.

"If true, this capitulation by Democrats following months of Republican pressure is a big victory for Americans struggling with record gasoline prices," said House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio.

Democrats had clung to the hope of only a partial repeal of the drilling moratorium, but the White House had promised a veto, Obey said.

The House is expected to act on the spending bill Wednesday. The Senate is likely to go along with the House.

"The White House has made it clear they will not accept anything with a drilling moratorium, and Democrats know we cannot afford to shut down the government over this," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. "We look forward to working with the next president to hammer out a final resolution of this issue."

While the House would lift the long-standing drilling moratoriums for both the Atlantic and Pacific coasts, a drilling ban in waters within 125 miles of Florida's western coast would remain in force under a law passed by Congress in 2006 that opened some new areas of the east-central Gulf to drilling.

Just last week, the House passed legislation to open waters off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts to oil and gas drilling but only 50 or more miles out to sea and only if a state agrees to energy development off its shore. It quickly became clear that measure would not get the 60 votes needed in the Senate.

Republicans called that effort a sham that would have left almost 90 percent of offshore reserves effectively off-limits.

The Interior Department estimates there are 18 billion barrels of recoverable oil beneath the Outer Continental Shelf, about half of it off California.

While the ban on energy development will be lifted if the Senate goes along with the House action, it doesn't mean any federal sale of oil and gas leases in the offshore waters - much less actual drilling - would be imminent.

The Interior Department's current five-year leasing plan includes potential leases off the Virginia coast but probably would not be pursued unless the state agrees to energy development. And the state is unlikely to do so without Congress agreeing to share federal royalties with the state.

The congressional battle over offshore drilling is far from over. Democrats are expected to press for broader energy legislation, probably next year, that would put limits on any drilling off most of the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. Republicans, meanwhile, are likely to fight any resumption of the drilling bans that have been in place since 1981.

John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, has promised to make offshore oil drilling a priority if elected president. He has called for developing the oil and gas resources along all of Outer Continental Shelf and for the federal government to share royalties with states who go along with drilling.

Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama has said he would support limited drilling in certain areas - possibly the South Atlantic region - if it is part of a broader energy plan to shift the U.S. away from oil to alternative fuels and more energy efficiency.

The debate over offshore drilling is not expected to subside in the first months of the next presidency - no matter who sits in the White House.

Lifting the drilling ban gives considerable momentum to the underlying bill, which includes the Pentagon budget, $24 billion in aid for flood and hurricane victims and $25 billion in loans for Detroit automakers in addition to keeping the government open past the Oct. 1 start of the 2009 budget year.

But Democrats decided not to use the must-pass measure as a battering ram to carry an extension of unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless past White House veto promises, prompting grumbling among some lawmakers. Efforts to boost food stamps and give states billions of dollars to help with Medicaid bills also fell through.

But the measure would double, to $5.2 billion, funding for heating subsidies for the poor, Obey said.

The measure also would provide more than $600 billion to fund the 2009 budgets for the Pentagon, Homeland Security Department and the Veterans Affairs Department. Nine other spending bills for the 2009 budget year starting Oct. 1 remain unfinished.

Bush had threatened to veto bills that don't cut the number and cost of pet projects known as "earmarks" sought by lawmakers in half from current levels or cause agency operating budgets, taken together, to exceed his request. Obey said, however, the White House would reluctantly sign the measure.

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by bob5ford September 23, 2008 8:32 PM PDT
Drill everywhere. Every day the US becomes more indebted to it''s sworn enemies, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and the like. It''s past time to start on the road to energy independence. I''d rather go out in my boat looking at an oil rig off Florida then be a slave to some rag head that bought the company I work for with his oil wealth any day.
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by downsteamjim September 23, 2008 8:38 PM PDT
To Bob5ford: Bring your fishing pole. Offshore rigs are great structure and the fishing is spectacular. Rascals in Florida use to buy our outdated rigs and sink them off your coast for reefs. Louisiana now gets to keep them and the aquatic community they promote.
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by paris1969 September 23, 2008 8:42 PM PDT
change we can believe in??????
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by erichsh September 23, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
CBS''s daily dirt dump articles on Palin attracts angry liberals by the hundreds, like flies to horseshiit. But a major cave-in by the Dems on one of their pet issues, and - hello? the silence here is deafening.
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by nothappyatall September 23, 2008 9:12 PM PDT
Once again the Dumbocraps CAVE IN, so what else is new? They have a MAJORITY but cave in, if king george threatens to shut down the Govt or whatever over it, let the bast-ard do it, his azz is gone in November anyway.
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by payasyougo September 23, 2008 9:26 PM PDT
"Lifting the drilling ban gives considerable momentum to the underlying bill, which includes the Pentagon budget, $24 billion in aid for flood and hurricane victims and $25 billion in loans for Detroit automakers in addition to keeping the government open past the Oct. 1 start of the 2009 budget year."
The measure would double, to $5.2 billion, funding for heating subsidies for the poor, Obey said.

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Ahhhh and the "endless taxpayer piggy bank" continues...
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by madumpty September 23, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
this is absolute ***, drilling benefits no one but the oil companies, and pollutes shorelines for miles. the spills are so bad in texas that you need to carry gasoline to the beach to wipe the oil off. The rigs leak all sorts of poison, wouldn''t want to eat any fish caught near those things.
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by smurfcrusher September 23, 2008 9:55 PM PDT
Thanks for caving! JERKS !

Trash our environment and for what? A nickel per gallon decrease?

Just what we need - billions of tons of more C02 in the atmosphere.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??

I promise not to be upset if you change your minds after the election.
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by missingamerica September 23, 2008 10:04 PM PDT
do we have to burn every last drop of oil before we come up with an alternative that''''s clean and makes us energy independent?

Posted by bushisadik at 09:06 PM : Sep 23, 2008

That would be my guess.

Consider the role oil plays in the pharmaceutical, medical equipment, packaging, fertilizer, chemical, and even explosives industries.

As we seem to be determined to burn the oil up instead of using an alternative form of energy to extend the supply, in the all too near future life is going to get REAL interesting.

Not to mention shorter.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 23, 2008 10:32 PM PDT
Rep. Boehner seems to know less about where high gas prices come from than the average motorist. Which is not to say he is above dissimulation to the press-- all to spare his friends on Wall Street and in the oil industry from fiery criticism.

Commodities speculation is a big factor in high prices, some say the biggest. This condition persists so long as traders can escalate their synthetic demand into a feeding frenzy. Such a spike or sustained high price level can coexist with normal levels of gas and oil assets in the market.

Clearly, speculation is the enemy of the consumer, especially for those with no energy or transportation alterantives but petroleum. Again, thank Rep. Boehner and the GOP for that.

Once, the government did force gas and oil price speculation to stop, realizing it was a threat to the national economy. In response to the Arab oil embargo, Nixon imposed price controls and declared, "Now, I am a Keynesian."

The question is not if, but when, the oil commodities speculators will overstep limited public patience with their bilking the consumer. But don''t hold your breath for Bush to take action-- his free-market ideology already has brought us the mortgage banking fiasco.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 23, 2008 10:51 PM PDT
TRADING HORSES--2

In fact, it is entirely possible the GOP would have held up Dem-proposed reforms of the nation''s unregulated mortgage banking market, just so it could claim a victory with offshore drilling. The GOP wanted to avoid the appearance of a forced concession to Dems on new banking rules, on top of the widespread blame being heaped on Bush and the GOP (rightly) for the mortgage banking meltdown.

The whole offshore issue is really a ploy for something else. None in the industry, not even in the Bush administration, says offshore will produce anything in the forseeable future to offset pump prices.

So, consider Boehner''s comment to mean, "We traded horses, and I think my side got a better horse." The Dems are probably also smiling about their side of the deal. And so it goes.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 23, 2008 10:52 PM PDT
TRADING HORSES IN CONGRESS

EddyNewHopes said, "I hate McBush/Palin but you are absolutely right. Dems in Congress are f**** spineless."
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"Spineless" is not quite accurate. As with most political manuevering, you must know what is going on behind the public posturing, on the "back channel", as they say in diplomatic circles.

Ultimately, our congress is a game of cooperation and impasse. The Dems do not have the supermajority to overturn Bush or his supporters in congress, and Bush and supporters do not have the power to act independently of the Dems. Each side plays a hand, as in poker, and bluffing reigns supreme.

By the time a description of the game reaches the press, it must be decoded by astute political reporters and columnists who understand what each side is trying to do, and what its priorities are.

It may be a while before we get the whole story on why the Dems voted as they did. Perhaps they got a key concession from the GOP on another bill-- say, with banking.

(See "Trading Horses"--2)
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by beehive21-2009 September 23, 2008 10:59 PM PDT
Nationalize The Oil companies.The Exxon Valdez, destroyed,the coast line and has yet too,pay ? Stop taking it,Nationalize the oil, and hang the greedy pigs whom ruined our economy,and brag making 50 billion profit in 90 days.Now, they what our shores to make more $$$,destroying the environment.this administration is great at giving away everything, ,to the rich and nothing for the middle class on down ,oh, except a tax bill to bail out a company with one Trillion n assets, that will have your grand children paying the bill n poverty.
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by stn_sage September 23, 2008 11:26 PM PDT
THIS PROVES DEMOCRATS ARE INCAPABLE OF GOVERNING IN CONGRESS!

What is so despicable about this is, we could NOT reasonably expect ANY immediate positive effect such as a decrease at the pump! It will take years to erect structures, obtain the raw material, refine it, and have it available for use!

The Democrats have caved-in and been exploited by big business, betrayed the environment, but saddly---have once again---BETRAYED THE PUBLIC!

My solution: vote them out of office!
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by babooph September 24, 2008 12:24 AM PDT
After grabbing Iraq oil-1/3 the worlds reserves,the price went up a fortune-hope I will be able to fill up every few months after the drilling!!!
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by jsilver2th September 24, 2008 2:03 AM PDT
Well this should work out pretty well for the Democrats with the third grade level voters in this country... Things like this will make it harder for the GOP to steal the election with a straight face again...

However, when the DNC majority offices call me looking for money it won''t work out very well at all as I will be setting their donations aside for oil spill clean up.
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by jsilver2th September 24, 2008 2:06 AM PDT
bgmusic:
"Biden.. the best thing that''''s happened to the Republican campaign.. STAND UP OH HANDICAP GUY.."

Yeah but it was a mistaken on Biden''s part...

In Palin''s church they call it faith healing...
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by nothappyatall September 24, 2008 3:03 AM PDT
is a big victory for Americans struggling with record gasoline prices," said House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio. "

Oh YEAH, biggggg victory for US! maybe in about TEN YEARS we might start seeing some oil AFTER drilling rigs are built and installed, AFTER new refineries we are short of are still not built or delayed because no one wants a dirty refineri=y in THEIR state.
By the time any oil came out of that who knows what will have changed between now and 2018- another big war and maybe by 2018 gasoline will be $20 a gallon and the savings from the off shore- 5 cents off that. Or maybe we won''t even need it.

The oil co''s are NOT going to reduce prices, they WANT supplies TIGHT and refinery capacity at it''s limit- that keeps the freaking price $4 a gallon instead of 89 cents
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by nothappyatall September 24, 2008 3:05 AM PDT
I predict the environmentalist lawsuits- the first of many will start to be filed the day after the bill is signed and that will effectively stop any drilling while it works it''s way thru the courts.
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by occams_taser September 24, 2008 3:20 AM PDT
It all started with the unchallenged lie that this will lower gas prices, which it won''t. It will make some more bucks for oil corporations and their shareholders. Some of which will be slipped into Congressional and Executive branch pockets.
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by rudy654-2009 September 24, 2008 3:36 AM PDT
It all started with the unchallenged lie that this will lower gas prices, which it won''''t. It will make some more bucks for oil corporations and their shareholders. Some of which will be slipped into Congressional and Executive branch pockets.


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Posted by occams_taser at 03:20 AM

Well said. I am sorry to see that so many people are so easily deceived by such rhetoric as drill here, drill now. This last year alone US exports of petroleum were at the highest. With the higher gas prices, big oil has already been drilling more and more right here. None of that was keeping the prices down. Why? Because it is sold on the world market and the goal is to make as much money as possible in that market.
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by michaelm07 September 24, 2008 3:54 AM PDT
Yeah right, wind and solar will run your car engine and run the factories and such. Anyone with any basic economic knowledge knows that drilling will bring the price down. And in 5 -10 years we will see the oil on the market - the more the better. If we again listen to the whining neo-libs and neo-environmentalists we''ll again be no closer in 5 - 10 years. YES, develop alternatives but until then drill. I don''t get why the libs cannot fathom the simple logic. And frankly, if there is an occasional oil spill so what, clean it up and get on with it. These morons who think holding an entire nation hostage because of the chance of a spill don''t mind filling up their gas tanks but offer no real alternatives.

I personally think they fear that they might actually find a LOT of oil within U.S. borders and perhaps enough to tell the hostile oil supplying nation where they can shove there oil.

U.S. oil, clean coal (which Obama supports), and nuclear are the best ways to free ourselves until better alternatives can be developed. As for wind it is a nice token technology but can only contribute a small bit of help in reality, unless you put one up every few blocks - if you enviros think it is the answer put one up in your own back yard. They take forever to pay for themselves by the way and negate any savings on energy.
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by michaelm07 September 24, 2008 4:01 AM PDT
And another thing you hand wringing liberal Dems, how about that Congress of yours? They are the most worthless bunch I have seen. Now they want the Presidency and can''t even run the congress - it is truly Kafka-esque to watch. Wathcing the biggest recipient of Fannie May bucks, Chris Dodd pontificate is just incredible. Come Dems, we can disagree but you have got to be conflited by the hypocrisy in Washington. I admit a lot of Republicans there are also jelly spined losers but you can''t even bring yourselves to admit when your side is supremely screwed up. This oil issue is just one example of Pelosi betting the wrong way and as a result, we all lose.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 24, 2008 4:52 AM PDT
michaelm07 said, "They are the most worthless bunch I have seen. Now they want the Presidency and can''t even run the congress - it is truly Kafka-esque"
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You reference Kafka, yet cannot understand the difference between a simple and a super-majority?

Try reading more about what the two terms mean, and you will understand why the current session of congress is best termed "gridlock".

On the other hand, "Kafka-esque" probably is an appropriate description of how both parties feel about this indeterminate state of affairs.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 24, 2008 5:01 AM PDT
michaelm07 said, "This oil issue is just one example of Pelosi betting the wrong way and as a result, we all lose..."
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Even Bush''s own oil policy experts say offshore drilling will have nothing to contribute to pump prices are at least several years.

Added to that market delay is the fact most, if not all, of the recent gas price gouging has been pressured by commodities speculators.

Big Oil never has responded to the question the Dems initially posed-- what are they doing with the 85 million acres of federal offshore lands already leased?

(See also comments under "Trading Horses in Congress", a page or two before this one.)
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by September 24, 2008 5:58 AM PDT
"Yeah right, wind and solar will run your car engine and run the factories and such. Anyone with any basic economic knowledge knows that drilling will bring the price down. And in 5 -10 years we will see the oil on the market"

Estimated to save at most 25 cents a gallon. 5 years? A pipe dream. 10 years maybe.

As to basic economic knowledge, 25 cents in 10 years might equate to 2 cents and keep in mind the amount of oil is "estimated" by the oil companies.

Drill baby drill is a simplistic answer to the changing face of energy use planet wise not just in the US.

Wind does power our school, our local city government electrical needs and has for 10 years. Reducing our taxpayer layout by over 300,000 a year. Do the math.

"And frankly, if there is an occasional oil spill so what, clean it up and get on with it."

They are still cleaning up from the Exxon Valdez and around the world from spills.

Keep thinking that the current course is the correct one with simplistic answers then look around and see how well 20 of the last 28 years with Republican policies have worked. Savings and loan failure,two wars, Iran Contra, massive deregulation, the current mess, no energy policy, leave no child behind failure, Katrina, Ike, failed immigration reform. A good portion of the time they had control of the senate and house also.

The results lay before you. And McCain won''t change a thing, he''s major part of that 28 years.
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by tmittelstaed September 24, 2008 6:15 AM PDT
They already opened the eastern side of FL to drilling under the 2006 law and that was where the largest offshore oil and gas finds were. And it''s a certainty that CA won''t permit offshore drilling, and that''s where the next most promising site is. The rest of the US offshore areas are mostly deepwater areas and it won''t be economically profitable to explore them as long as the Saudi''s are still producing oil. This is nothing more than an attempt to pull one of McCain''s talking points away from him.
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by gunfighter51 September 24, 2008 7:00 AM PDT
I would suggest to the democrats that the bigger problem is no gas in the south. The left will have to think long and hard how to pin this one on the right.
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 7:14 AM PDT
Piece of sh-t country - I enjoy watching it melt down, and in spite of what Paulson and the Bushies tell you, it will melt down whether the American people pony up the 700 Billion dollars or not. I think Iran''''s president is right: "The American empire is collapsing." Good.


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Posted by EddyNewHopes at 05:15 AM : Sep 24, 2008

All this time I thought I was debating with a fellow American, someone concerned about this countries direction. Your current posts reveal the inner you, while I always knew you were mean spirited I thought you just another indignant Democrat. Now I see you are not American at all, only concerned with our politics and hoping for our downfall. I would suggest you get a life in your own country and maybe post on websites that deal with your issues. Your posting here reeks of a vulture circling above, hoping for death, very pathetic.
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 7:25 AM PDT
On the topic of oil, I think we are caught with our pants down right now. Bending over and taking it, we have only ourselves to blame for not at least maintaining the ability to drill and refine the oil. I understand environmentalist worries, but think that the ability to produce oil is a security issue now. Hugo Chavez is buddying up with Iran and Russia, and we never know what the Middle East is going to do, so do we put all our eggs in their basket? Very stupid, I don''t want to count on them to supply oil until viable alternatives are found, we need to pave the way to see to our own oil needs without having a gun to our neck. So let''s pull up our pants and get to work.
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by credibility2 September 24, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
Since the Dems refuse to part of the solution, they''re part of the problem. The Dems like to put up the front that they''re a caring and committed party, when in fact they are embroiled with their own self-interests and agenda and it has nothing to do with either the people or solving problems. And this is what many misguided want to continue entrusting? Repubs have their faults, but the Dems surpass them on every level.
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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 7:37 AM PDT
Just what america needs .... a dictatorial warmongering party in power, and a spineless party of appeasers in opposition. No wonder america is so stuffed, there''s nobody left standing up for it.
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 7:43 AM PDT
onemoretim bends over for the middle east and the democrats.
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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 7:46 AM PDT
Democrats and Terrorists can only Denounce America. Republicans offer Solutions, Democrats offer Blame.
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Posted by demslie2u

Wake up dumb-arse ... everybody is denouncing america these days. Don''t you read the news, or do you just look at the pictures.
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by adillon70 September 24, 2008 7:57 AM PDT
Absolutely right, promaclaura. If EddyNewHopes is so happy to see America failing, then he should pack his bags and go to Afghanistan, Iraq or some other country. He is not interested in a solution..so he is actually part of the problem! If he hates America so much, why stay here?
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 8:02 AM PDT
Wake up dumb-arse ... everybody is denouncing america these days. Don''''t you read the news, or do you just look at the pictures.


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Posted by tapsettle at 07:46 AM : Sep 24, 2008

I always knew Democrats had "herd" mentality, your statement proves it. Are you one of those people that group kicks people when they are down as well?
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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
If he hates America so much, why stay here?
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Posted by adillon70

Perhaps he loves it enough to want to help rebuild it from the ruin it has been brought down to.

I on the other hand hate it with a passion, and nothing would please me more than to see it sink into the sea, drowning every american with it (you first !).
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by jjp735i September 24, 2008 8:06 AM PDT
Of course the Dems will relent to Bush. That''s what they always do. They are no better than Joe Lieberman.

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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 8:10 AM PDT
I always knew Democrats had "herd" mentality, your statement proves it. Are you one of those people that group kicks people when they are down as well?
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Posted by promaclaura

What a dumb interpretation and even dumber accusation. Do you think large numbers of people (across the world in this case) have a ''herd'' mentality if they have the same opinion? And as for ''group kicking'' .... what are you sniffing??
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
What a dumb interpretation and even dumber accusation. Do you think large numbers of people (across the world in this case) have a ''''herd'''' mentality if they have the same opinion? And as for ''''group kicking'''' .... what are you sniffing??


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Posted by tapsettle at 08:10 AM : Sep 24, 2008

The rest of the world didn''t get their opinion of America by living here, they got it from our liberal media. Oh, and if America goes down, bye, bye to all the food we feed the rest of the world and all the aid they beg for when disaster hits and their own government thumbs their noses at the oppressed. Gee, we''re the first ones there to help when a disaster strikes, where are all the good hearted people from the rest of the world when a hurricane strikes our gulf? No one steps up, but we''re still supposed to give from the goodness of our American hearts, go blow.
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by mbskoczen September 24, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
Posted by tapsettle

I''''ve notice that people who hate winners which Americans are just lame weak and worthless scum. It''''s like the geek who hates the captain of the football team just because he is good looking, gifted person and all the beautiful women want to be with him. Hey I understand, we still kick butt at the Olympics, everyone watches our wonderful Hollywood movies, everyone wants to move here... We were the first to fly and the only Russians to visit the moon were dead on arrival..
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
I''''''''ve notice that people who hate winners which Americans are just lame weak and worthless scum. It''''''''s like the geek who hates the captain of the football team just because he is good looking, gifted person and all the beautiful women want to be with him. Hey I understand, we still kick butt at the Olympics, everyone watches our wonderful Hollywood movies, everyone wants to move here... We were the first to fly and the only Russians to visit the moon were dead on arrival..



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Posted by mbskoczen at 08:25 AM : Sep 24, 2008

I can deal with Joe Democrat that lives down the road, I see his family and his children attend the same school as mine. While I won''t agree with his philosophy, I appreciate that he has the same love for his country as I do and has the same passion.

Poster''s from other countries don''t have a clue, they get their perspective from liberal or state controlled news. This rounds them up into the very "herd mentality" I have mentioned before. They eat the fodder placed before them and happily fall in line, group kicking those who don''t eat the fodder.
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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
The rest of the world didn''t get their opinion of America by living here, they got it from our liberal media.
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Posted by promaclaura

There you go making dumb assumptions again. Why would the rest of the world need krappy american media? As for starving and "goodness of american hearts" , now you must be trying to be funny. You certainly helped Afghanistan replace their food crops with opium, and I''ll bet the half million plus innocent dead Iraqis were very grateful for the american goodness that slaughtered them. You should get yourself a job as a rocking horse ... perfect match for your intellect.
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by tapsettle September 24, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
"I''ve notice that people who hate winners which Americans are."
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Posted by mbskoczen

Tsk tsk .... that should be spelt WHINERS, or maybe WEINERS.
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by prohb September 24, 2008 8:46 AM PDT
We have to become a RESILIENT people. A resilient people would look at the energy crisis and say- "OK we have to cut back on our energy usage for the good of my family, my community, my country, and my world." "OK - I have to buy products and invest in industries that are energy efficient." "OK, I shouldn''t wait for my government leaders to solve it, I will start to slve it in my own lifestyle." Yes - we need to be RESILIENT! This will be a theme in all my post from now on........
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 9:05 AM PDT
Posted by tapsettle at 08:37 AM : Sep 24, 2008

Typical foreign b o o b. Can we help it that the Afghan''s welcomed OBL and the Taliban and then let them hatch their destructive plot of 9/11, which started the fight and brought it here? Please don''t ask me to feel sorry for the Afghan''s, we kicked the bad guys out and they go right back to what they know, a poppy crop. Oh, but according to you we have to get their economy running as well, should we wipe their b u t t s too? Remember, it is the Taliban and terrorists coming over from Pakistan that is still leaving that country in turmoil and not allowing growth (so shut up your pie hole because American''s are STILL trying to help them). Iraq''s glad to be rid of Saddam, now all its people that moved to Dearborn, Michigan can go home and not fret about Saddam led torture houses or mass gassing.
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by pughenry3 September 24, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
John McCain picked Governor Sarah Palin because he intends to follow through and make his Project Lexington for United States energy independence the dominant issue in this campaign. Governor Sarah Palin is a strong supporter of increased offshore drilling and she knows that Alaska has an offshore coastline greater than the rest of the country combined and is also comes in second among the states in oil production. Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and John McCain understand that Obama and the Democrats would never consider government loan guarantees or tax breaks for a sure thing that will produce energy for the American gas tank. In fact Democrats are trying to put together a so-called windfall profits tax which will have the effect of discouraging future investment in the United States oil industry
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by omega40 September 24, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
So the other day oil went up $25 a bbl before settling on an increase of $16 bbl. This occurred even as demand is falling and inventories are rising. Any one of you Bush fellators still want to argue it''s supply and demand and not the speculative markets?
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by promaclaura September 24, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
Why would the rest of the world need krappy american media?
Posted by tapsettle

Says the nitwit posting on a very liberal American media website!
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by walt1944-2009 September 24, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
The Great Emperor Bush II and his oldest clone, John McBush McCain, are pleased that they have achieved still another victory under their watch concerning off shore drilling.

The evil, cowardly Whimpo-crats have given up trying to prevent the forces of the "DARK SIDE" from turning the planet into the planet Mars, and instead have "caved" once again.

It matters little that the neocon Fascist National Socialist Nazi Republicans haven''t been right about ANYTHING since they took over Congress in 1996, nor does it matter that BIG OIL will now drill off the coasts to its heart content and realize even bigger profits selling the oil obtained, not to the USSA for worthless dollars, but to Europe and China where the currency is in a lot better shape.

What matters is the BIG OIL and its lobbyists will continue to make huge profits, that BIG OIL will continue to "contribute" handsomely to Congressmen, and the public be DAMMMED!

SIG HEIL, PROFITS FOR BIG OIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, DRILL, DRILL, DRILL!!!!, McCain!!!
sig heil, GOD SAYS WE NEED ANOTHER PIPELINE!!!, Palin!!!
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