June 18, 2009 6:23 PM

Does Race Skew Polling?

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(CBS)  This column was written by CBS News director of surveys Kathy Frankovic.
In every election, people make claims about polls - what they mean, what their weaknesses might be this time around, what the poll consumer needs to be aware of. But not all of those claims are true, including some that figure in many current political discussions. Some claims about possible polling errors even contradict each other!

Consider the belief that polls are understating Barack Obama by about two percentage points, because they are missing all those young voters who are only reachable on cell phones. I will have to deal with that in a separate column; suffice it to say here that many polls, including the CBS News Poll, do call both land-lines and cell-phones. But a competing claim is that polls overstate support for Obama, because Americans are more likely to say that they will vote for an African-American than to actually do it - and, oh yes, some even say that this means that Obama is overestimated by two points or so.

So there are either too few or too many Obama voters. Of course, if both of these statements are true, then the polls -- like Goldilocks - will be just right!

There is a lot we don't know about that second claim. But some recent articles are worth looking at for answers. A good review of the question about possible lying to pollsters, especially racially-motivated lying to pollsters, is Ellen Gamerman's Wall Street Journal report. But many people talk about the "Bradley effect." Tom Bradley was the Mayor of Los Angeles from 1973 to 1993. He was only the second elected black Mayor of a large U.S. city (Cleveland elected Carl Stokes in 1967). In 1982, Bradley ran for Governor of California. Polls before the election suggested he would win; but Republican George Deukmejian beat him in the election.

Thus was born the "Bradley effect." There were other examples in the 1980's too. In 1989 David Dinkins appeared to be coasting to victory in the New York City Mayoral race, but just squeaked by Rudy Giuliani; and four years later Dinkins would lose their rematch. Doug Wilder won his race for the Virginia Governorship that year by a much smaller margin than pollsters predicted.

Discussion of the "Bradley effect" fell by the wayside until Andy Kohut helped to revive it in a much-read New York Times op-ed piece that first appeared on line just after this year's New Hampshire primary. And now, of course, everyone talks or writes about it, including columnists as politically diverse as Paul Kurgman and Robert Novak.

It's important to separate racial voting (voting for or against someone because of their race) from the "Bradley effect," which involves misrepresenting what you intend to do when asked by a pollster. There will be some people motivated by race this fall, but if they report their intended vote accurately, then they aren't creating a "Bradley effect."

The "Bradley effect" of misrepresenting one's vote in polls seems to belong to a particular time and place - to urban America in the 1980's. And there is good reason to think that times have changed.

Daniel J. Hopkins, a Post-Doctoral Fellow at Harvard posted a paper last month that examined 133 state wide elections from 1989 through 2006. He looked at whether what he calls the "Wilder effect" existed for black candidates and for female candidates. Here's a sentence from his conclusion: "In the early 1990s, there was a pronounced gap between polling and [election] performance for black candidates of about 2.3 percentage points." He goes on: "But in the mid-1990s, that upward bias in telephone surveys disappeared." And he gives a good reason for the change: "As racialized rhetoric about welfare and crime receded from national prominence in the mid-1990s, so did the gap between polling and performance." In addition, he notes that some of those poll-election differences in the early 1990's might have been due to the fact that some African-Americans were frontrunners in the polls, and frontrunners sometimes do less well on election day than in the pre-election polls (that's the "underdog effect," also a topic for another day).

Hopkins explains it this way: When the critical issues facing Americans have a racial component, there could be an impact on people's beliefs about African-American candidates and what they are willing to say about them. When political rhetoric changes, and the focus shifts away from race, that changes the way race impacts how we answer polling questions.

If crime and welfare are important concerns, as they were in the 1980's and early 1990's, and if people create an image of who is more likely to commit crimes and be on welfare, topics like these and others can become racially sensitive. When polls have asked whether numerically there are more blacks or more whites on welfare, people tend to say there are more blacks - something that just isn't true! And of course it was fear of black crime - justified or not - that created racial profiling.

Crime and welfare are hardly mentioned now in surveys asking Americans to name the country's most important problem. Economic issues predominate. And race does not have as much to do with that discussion. So operationally, we might see a change in polling, too. Under what circumstances would people feel uncomfortable telling an interviewer they are NOT going to vote for an African-American? Only when they think that the person they are speaking to might object to what they have to say, or they believe their interviewer supports a particular candidate, or if they think their answer might offend the person they are talking to. Respondents do make up an image of the person they are speaking to. It's one reason why pollsters train interviewers to ask questions as written and not to give any indication of their own point of view. And why interviewers are monitored to make sure that they actually do this.

Hopkins' paper reminds us that times change in polling - change isn't just how poll numbers are different at different times, or how sometimes one candidate pulls ahead of the other, and then falls behind. There can be change in the way people answer questions too. While some would argue that the nature of the race has changed - we've never had an African-American leading a major party's presidential ticket before, so perhaps the evidence from statewide races is irrelevant -- the evidence we do have so far seems clear: the "Bradley effect" could very well be a thing of the past.
By Kathy Frankovic

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by publius77 September 22, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
When the race is tight, count on the Democrats to trot out the old standards: Social Security, abortion and race.
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by usapride70 September 22, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
WEST PALM BEACH, FL - As the Republican National Convention finally got underway, John McCain got some unexpected praise from a colleague nearly 2,000 miles from St. Paul.

"He is my good friend," Joe Biden told a large crowd here tonight. "I get in trouble for saying this with some real strong Obama supporters. ... [But] if John McCain picked up the phone today and said, ''Joe, I need you to get in a plane and fly out to Missoula, I can''t tell you why,'' I''d get in a plane and I''d go."

Later, when asked about an effort by Republicans to portray their ticket as one of ethics and reform, Biden called McCain "a thoroughly ethical guy."
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by usapride70 September 22, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
It features moderator George Stephanopolous saying to Sen. Biden:

You were asked if he [Obama] was ready. You said, %u201CI think he can be ready but right now I don%u2019t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.%u201D

Cut to Biden who says:

I think that I stand by that statement.


The headless announcer steps in to ask, %u201CAnd what does he [Biden] say of John McCain?%u201D

Cut to a clip from Jon Stewart%u2019s %u201CThe Daily Show%u201D back in 2005 where Biden said:

I would be honored to run with or against John McCain because I think the country would be better off.
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by usapride70 September 22, 2008 2:56 AM EDT
billarynfl,
are you saying that obama being in the white house would give ayer the power to bomb us. Are you saying that he would do that or are you scared he might. First off, you and I both know thats unlikely to happen because he has to have good reason to access the weapons. Just because he is president does not mean he can say here you can have this and use it. He has to go to congress to get permission. He still has an order in which he does things.


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Posted by dj292009 at 10:33 PM : Sep 21, 2008

But yet Dems are trying to say that if McCain is voted into office he will reverse Roe vs Wade immediately. How is that so? He does not have that power. And also Bush is getting blamed for every single thing that has gone wrong in this country. How is that so? Congress has to approve almost everything. Can''t go to war without congresses approval. The president can''t just snap his fingers and make abortion illegal, no matter his beliefs.
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by billarynfl September 22, 2008 1:53 AM EDT
billarynfl,
are you saying that obama being in the white house would give ayer the power to bomb us. Are you saying that he would do that or are you scared he might. First off, you and I both know thats unlikely to happen because he has to have good reason to access the weapons. Just because he is president does not mean he can say here you can have this and use it. He has to go to congress to get permission. He still has an order in which he does things.

Posted by dj292009

I''m not saying he would or he wouldn''t. I was saying it''s something to be concerned about. He has made questionable decisions in his past. No other politician has ever been friends with a terrorist. This is beyond comprehension how anyone would even consider voting for him knowing who his friends are, how he''s made financial gain with convicted felons, the racist views by his pastor that he listened to for 20 YEARS and then tries to imply he didn''t know the mans beliefs. Nobody really believes that, and it is further proof he can''t tell the truth. Too many serious issues involving him, too many. If a republican had done just one of those things the liberal media would have persecuted them until they were no longer in the race.
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by dj292009 September 22, 2008 1:33 AM EDT
billarynfl,
are you saying that obama being in the white house would give ayer the power to bomb us. Are you saying that he would do that or are you scared he might. First off, you and I both know thats unlikely to happen because he has to have good reason to access the weapons. Just because he is president does not mean he can say here you can have this and use it. He has to go to congress to get permission. He still has an order in which he does things.
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by billarynfl September 21, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
In my case, I''''m voting for the policies of the Democratic candidate because I believe he has the best position on just about every issue.

Posted by indevoter

That sounds good but you must not be taking their character and past actions into account, that''s a serious issue. That is very important, ones character will determine how they lead, and what decisions they will make under given circumstances. You have to take into consideration that obama has a long history of associating with people that are enemies of our country. That alone is enough to disqualify him from the top office. Being President gives him access to some of the most important secrets to the defense of our nation. Being as he has had terrorists that have bombed US Government buildings and to this day says that the only regret is that they didn''t do more damage or kill more Americans. In my opinion it would be kin to being a traitor to vote in someone that has had that kind of relationship with those terrorists. Then there''s 20 YEARS with a racist pastor, and he says he was his mentor, and that he was his mentor, yet he wants you to believe that in 20 YEARS he never knew his pastor was a racist and preached about having a black America, that is serious question of character in itself. The list goes on, but there isn''t enough room to put it all here.
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by billarynfl September 21, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
With stuff like this going on do we really care about the pigmentation of ones skin?

Posted by indevoter

They shouldn''t, but people do, on both sides of the fence. For anyone to vote for obama because he is black, or vote against him because he is black or to vote against McCain because he is white, or against Palin because she is a woman is morally corrupt. You should base your vote on who is the most qualified to fill the position. You have to look deeper than what they claim they can do, look at who they are, where they have been in their lives, their background tells a lot about a person, what kind of friends they have, who they did business with, it all plays a part. It''s not cherry picking, you have to consider the whole package, their life long total of experiences and deeds. Then vote your consience, because your country, friends, and most importantly, your family may suffer from a weak decision trying to be politically correct. It''s better to be factually, morally and honestly correct.
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by billarynfl September 21, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
There is no need to bail out the super rich with taxpayer money. Risk...They took the risk for greed and lost

Posted by indevoter

That would apply if not for the fact that it was the democratic led congress that forced those institutions to give loans to risky people that could not pay the money back. It was an attempt to buy votes from the poor people once again by the libs.
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by billarynfl September 21, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
ARE YOU STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN???

Posted by im4honesty

One might turn the question around to the question is, are you ignorant enough to vote for oabama. You see there are two sides to every question, not in the libs world, but in the honest world.
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