WASHINGTON, Sept. 17, 2008

Bloomberg Warns Of "Next Wave" Crisis

More Financial Pain Possible If Foreign Entities Stop Buying U.S. Debt, Says NYC Mayor

  • Mayor Michael Bloomberg speaks about the New York City economy in light of the Lehman Brother's bankruptcy filing and other financial turmoil during a press conference in New York, Sept. 15, 2008.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg speaks about the New York City economy in light of the Lehman Brother's bankruptcy filing and other financial turmoil during a press conference in New York, Sept. 15, 2008.  (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

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(CBS/AP)  New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg warned Wednesday a "next wave" of financial pain may come from overseas if foreign entities stop buying U.S. debt.

The billionaire mayor spoke before an audience at Georgetown University, telling them it's not clear who is going to continue buying U.S. debt as financial firms try to cope with a crisis of confidence on Wall Street.

The financial markets have undergone a tumultuous last week: Investment bank Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy and later sold off its North American trading division to British bank Barclays PLC; Insurance giant AIG needed an $85 billion bailout from the U.S. government in order to stay afloat; and investment firm Merrill Lynch sold itself to Bank of America.

The mayor is scheduled to meet Thursday morning with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Chris Cox.

Before becoming mayor, Bloomberg made a fortune by launching a financial information company that bears his name, and he has more credibility than most politicians on economic matters.

Bloomberg said he was concerned that the credit crisis in the United States may scare off foreign investors that, until now, have been willing to buy debt that the U.S. uses to maintain a deficit.

"It's not clear who's going to be buying our debt," said Bloomberg. "It may very well be that the next wave is going to come back and bite us."

The mayor, a Democrat-turned-Republican-turned independent, regularly criticizes both parties, the Congress, and the White House for what he says is their lack of foresight. He said the current economic crisis is the latest example of the same problem.

"We have on both sides of the aisle, on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, thrown caution to the wind. We pay lip service to responsibility," he said, as he sat onstage in an armchair, fielding questions from Georgetown President Jack DeGioia.

Bloomberg had originally planned to give a speech about the economy, but amid the fast-moving events on Wall Street, he scrapped the speech and went with a question-and-answer session instead.

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We have on both sides of the aisle, on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, thrown caution to the wind. We pay lip service to responsibility.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg
"The systemic problem is we've all gotten into a situation where we want it now, there's no pain ... We keep saying we want to have it, we don't want to pay for it. You can't go on forever not addressing the key issues in this country," like health care and immigration, he said.

Asked about government regulation of the U.S. economy, he said that while some complain it is excessive, the United States has a competitive advantage because in many other countries "you would think that most (corporate financial statements) are just made up."

In fact, just last year the mayor and New York Senator Charles Schumer issued a lengthy report decrying what they saw as overreaching and overly demanding regulation of business.

Back then, Bloomberg and Schumer wrote that enforcement of a 2002 law toughening business reporting requirements "produced far heavier costs than expected (and) has only aggravated the situation," putting the U.S. at a competitive disadvantage with other financial centers like London.

Fast forward to 2008 - and the meltdown of confidence in U.S. financial markets - and Bloomberg had many nice things to say about regulation, including the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act that separated commercial and investment banking, and was scrapped in 1999. As the modern financial sector has struggled, many Wall Street watchers have suggested resuscitating the old law.

Bloomberg did, though, continue to argue for a reordering of the current regulatory thicket.

"The real world has changed," he said, and old government agencies no longer are equipped to monitor companies that offer a combination of services, like insurance and investments and banking.

"All of these industries, the participants all do the same thing so there's a mishmash and there's too many places for things to slip through the cracks. I don't know that the regulators are asleep at the switch. The structure is not suitable for the real world."

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by wl7bzh September 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
You think because you don''''t own any stocks that you are immune to this mess (and shame on you if you are rooting for it). Everyone is affected by this.

Posted by payasyougo at 09:26 AM : Sep 18, 2008

Maybe he''s not rooting for this so much as America regaining the character of self-denial instead of being self centered.

Decadent lifestyle has acquired minority status-anybody criticizing greed and immorality is accused of bigotry and hate mongering.

You want to live like animals guided by your base instincts and impulses? Then have the class to deal with the consequence without crying "Ima victim"
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by redbds September 18, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
What a mess we are in. It all started when the liberals took over congress two years ago. Just goes to show you what putting the do nothing liberals in charge of anything will get you. We are all screwed. Let it go and start over. As long as we still have a strong military we will be fine.
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by lovegetpeace September 18, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
Folks,
With Bailouts, one postpone the 4th Great Depression for around the year 2018.

Advice to read "The Great Depression of 1990" by Ravi Batra.
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by ubrew12 September 18, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
payasyougo said: "Just keep blaming president Bush for this. Even after reading that the root of this mess is the 1999 legislation referenced in this article (that would be at Clinton''''s feet)"

I think both parties have been on a deregulation of buisness binge for the last 15 years, and this is the fallout. Further, as Bloomberg states, part of the problem is that many of the gov''t regulatory agencies are not properly directed or funded to deal with modern commerce. While they made a horrible mistake taking out Glass-Steagal (I noticed you avoided naming Phil Gramms role in that), part of this may be just ''growing pains'' in dealing with a rapidly internationalizing economy.

However, just because commerce is globalizing, doesn''t let America off the hook for paying her debts. Our $10 trillion Reagan/Bush debt is 100% the fault of Republicans. You really can''t put any of that debt on Democrats, and is the primary reason I vote Democrat. The debt hobbles America''s role in international commerce and threatens to destroy it completely. THANKS Republicans!
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by cricketbeers September 18, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
I think we''re crashing, and crashing hard. We''re definitely looking at a 1929 like economy. Now is the time to start investing in international markets. It worries me that my kids will have to deal with these bailouts and then their kids, etc. We keep borrowing and borrowing to bail out these defunct businesses, and who will bail us out when there aren''t any jobs left? There won''t be taxpayer money left because there won''t be any jobs.

I say Obama/Biden are right -- make the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes. Anyone over $250,000 should pay THEIR share instead of the working middle class paying their share and THEN some. It''s only fair. I wouldn''t say patriotic, but it is fair to have the wealthy politicians pay some of this back - after all, they started this mess. Give the working people a tax credit so we can get back on our feet after all this stock mess. My mutual funds will probably never recover. I don''t even want to look at my 401-K account. Ugh.
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by jntlw-2009 September 18, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
Biblically in Revelations, everyone at some point begins to hate the harlot. If and I emphasize "if", we are the harlot who has corrupted the earth with her wiles (greedy capitalism), then I would say other countries will have had enough of our greed and corruption and market volitility and will turn on us and no longer buy our debts and may even require that we pay the debt they have purchased thus far. That will be the end of the USA as we know it (world leader) and our life style. Just food for thought - nothing concrete or written in stone.
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by beehive21-2009 September 18, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
70 % voted ,no to bailing out AIG , why, they have a trillion in assets, ? WE have not landed ,the wings are falling off and the band-aids are being applied,and yet the ground is not in sight,hold on,we have a long fall,as they try to amend what they''ve sown for the past 8 years.
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by oscarez September 18, 2008 1:32 PM EDT
"The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, Pub. L. No. 106-102, 113 Stat. 1338 (November 12, 1999), is an Act of the United States Congress which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act, opening up competition among banks, securities companies and insurance companies. The Glass-Steagall
Act prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services."

"The bills were introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (R-TX) and in the House of Representatives by James Leach (R-IA). The bills were passed by a 54-44 vote along party lines with Republican support in
the Senate and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives.
Nov 4, 1999: After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. This veto proof legislation was signed into
law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999."
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by payasyougo September 18, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
"the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act that separated commercial and investment banking, and was scrapped in 1999."
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Just keep blaming president Bush for this. Even after reading that the root of this mess is the 1999 legislation referenced in this article (that would be at Clinton''s feet) and seeing nothing out of congress for the last two years (that would be when the Democrats took over).

Keep blaming president Bush.

Keep wasting time.

Keep ignoring that the root problem is an MIA government consisting of Republicans and Democrats that are both funded by special interests while the endless taxpayer piggy bank is left to pick up the pieces.

As long as you, the voting public, act like your party''s puppet blaming and hating the other side they''ll keep on spending your future while they live in mansions.

You think because you don''t own any stocks that you are immune to this mess (and shame on you if you are rooting for it). Everyone is affected by this.
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by rjs1955 September 18, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
Folks,

The ship has not begun to hit the sand. This will prove to be the greatest financial/social fiasco since 1929, brought to you by Cheney-Rove & Co. (Bush has never really been our President... that wire-in-the-debates-wearing-court-packing-2-time-election-stealing-in-his brother''s-state-of-florida-WMD-farce/lie-about-it-pretend-to-be-Christian-mongrel). And Amerika fairly dances with Death himself in the form of McMain-Palin and loves every minute of it while laughing at Tina Fey doing a S.P. imitation.
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by g-gfather September 18, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
Brianbwb.
You have succeeded in self.

I will hold my standing ground here in the U.s.A.
I wish you wisdom. Great-Grandfather.
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by brianbwb-2009 September 18, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
"LMMFAO......He finally got the memo... (from someone able to operate a computer).......too funny...."
Posted by singinrich

That has to be a record of some kind for the fastest flip-flop by a candidate in the history of campaigning.
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by babooph September 18, 2008 9:49 AM EDT
Does this mean the rich will now have to come up with money to continue the war??If so,they will move to France instead.
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by brianbwb-2009 September 18, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
Posted by maxify55

In fact, I don''t even accept US dollars as payment for my services, as they are too unstable for me to guarantee completion of my contracts, and I haven''t taken US dollars for some years now. I ignored the "stimulus checks" as I spend that much taking clients to lunch, again not worth taking.

Another interesting bit of irony, I built my business from the ground up, and in an ironic thanks to the racism of US venture capitalists and banks, I did it without using credit, to date I still don''t, even though now it is offered to me. I am totally debt free, and living the life that people like yourself only dream about. I live in Bali, use Singapore for business transactions, I travel the world, and get paid good money to do so, how about you?

Judging by your post, it is you who hasn''t actually earned any money, preferring instead to soak up the benefits of corporate welfare, which unfortunately for you, are about to run dry.
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by brianbwb-2009 September 18, 2008 9:26 AM EDT
Posted by maxify55

Your assumptions about the economy are as incorrect as your assumptions about me.

You know full well that the wealthy are only so because they have stolen from us. "Trickle down" was Reagan''s term for the codification of economic fascism. You say "That''s the way economy works", well son, guess what? Look out your window, it ain''t workin''.

Steal from the wealthy? That is a joke, the failing banks, insurance firms, and mega-corporations with their cooked books, have been stealing from you, but you are too ignorant to see it, either that, or you are one of the thieves. Obviously you are also unable to comprehend the way out.

Here is a clue, the poor did not force these companies to hide their bad decisions until they were so bad that the companies imploded.

Just for the record, I own my own business, and operate in Asia, my money is in Euros, and I have never taken a penny from the US government, I have not even cashed my income tax returns, because I don''t bank in the US anymore, and it isn''t worth going there just for a couple thousand bucks, my plane fare would cost that much.
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by brianbwb-2009 September 18, 2008 9:03 AM EDT
From World

To America

Re: overdue payment

Dear America,

It has come to our attention that your mortgage payment is 36 years past due. Our repeated attempts to contact you to make arrangements for payment have been unsuccessful.

Please make the necessary arrangements for immediate payment, or we will take action to recover our assets through bankruptcy proceedings.

Have a nice day.

______________
Reality
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by brianbwb-2009 September 18, 2008 8:49 AM EDT
Posted by SamTheTVCat

Why should they buy the debt to render the US helpless? If no one buys the debt, the US dollar will collapse, they will see a totally helpless US, unable to stop our own domestic anarchy, much less project military power, and they won''t have to spend a cent, this is the "nightmare scenario" that Bloomberg is talking about.

What Bloomberg fails to see is that there is a way out, but he is so conditioned to think in terms of "trickle down" economic fascism that he cannot see it.
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by newsjunky5 September 18, 2008 8:38 AM EDT
Didn''t the Savings and Loans fail when his daddy was president?
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by caliengineer September 18, 2008 7:31 AM EDT
It''s all planned by the rich elite Bankers. This is a three-peat for them. First bank and financial power grab was 1920''s. Second effort, 1933. They formed and own the "Federal" Reserve and the IRS.
Now, they are buying up AIG, many other banks....

Evil abounds!

Have you cleaned your heart with the Lord?
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by alphaa10-2009 September 18, 2008 7:28 AM EDT
And in the fullness of time, VP **** Cheney said to Treasury Secretary O''Neill, "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don''t matter."

Revealing the motivation behind a new round of Bush-deficit-stoking tax cuts for the rich-- some $500 billion worth-- Cheney added, "We won the mid-terms. This is our due."

But while Cheney made political payoffs for the donors and lobbies behind the Bush campaign, and passed their tax burdens on to the American middle class, it is now clear in 2008 that neither Cheney nor Bush really matter.

Bush and Cheney are two null entities who set in motion political and economic chaos they do not understnnd, much less control.
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