RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Sept. 12, 2008

Saudi OKs Killing "Immoral" TV Execs

Decree Says Permissible To Kill Satellite TV Network Owners Over Immoral Content

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(AP)  Saudi Arabia's top judiciary official has issued a religious decree saying it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV networks that broadcast immoral content.

The 79-year-old Sheik Saleh al-Lihedan said Thursday that satellite channels cause the "deviance of thousands of people."

Many of the most popular Arab satellite networks - which include channels showing music videos often denounced as obscene by Muslim conservatives - are owned by Saudi princes and well-connected Saudi businessmen. Al-Lihedan did not specify any particular channels.

Al-Lihedan is chief of the kingdom's highest tribunal, the Supreme Judiciary Council. Saudi Arabia's judiciary is made up of Islamic clerics whose decrees, or fatwas, on everyday issues are widely respected. Their fatwas do not have the weight of law. In the courts, cleric-judges rule according to Islamic law, but interpretations can vary.

Al-Lihedan was answering listeners' questions during the daily "Light in the Path" radio program in which he and others make rulings on what is permissible under Islamic law.

One caller asked about Islam's view of the owners of satellite TV channels that show "bad programs" during Ramadan.

"I want to advise the owners of these channels, who broadcast calls for such indecency and impudence ... and I warn them of the consequences," he said.

"What does the owner of these networks think, when he provides seduction, obscenity and vulgarity?" he said.

"Those calling for corrupt beliefs, certainly it's permissible to kill them," he said. "Those calling for sedition, those who are able to prevent it but don't, it is permissible to kill them."

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Those calling for corrupt beliefs, certainly it's permissible to kill them. Those calling for sedition, those who are able to prevent it but don't, it is permissible to kill them.

Sheik Saleh al-Lihedan
Among the most viewed Arabic satellite networks is Rotana, which airs movies and music videos. It is owned by Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a billionaire businessman and member of the royal family whom Forbes ranks as the world's 13th richest person.

Other questions in the radio show tackled personal issues. Al-Lihedan advised one man, for example, that by kissing his wife during the day he broke his fast during the holy month of Ramadan, when having sex, eating, drinking and smoking are prohibited from sunrise to sunset. He told the man he should make up for it with an extra day of fasting.

Al-Lihedan sparked controversy in the past by issuing a decree that Saudis can join jihadists to fight U.S. troops in Iraq.

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by caliengineer September 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
I have not owned a TV since I left my parents'' home. When I married, my wife insisted. I was amazed at the junk on there! Does it corrupt? Absolutely!

She is on vacation. I had the service suspended immediately. It makes me lazy. My thoughts are more wholesome without it. My work productivity is way up.

Television is like suicide- a vicious murder against yourself.
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by pensacola98 September 14, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
I applaud the Saudi''s decision. I turned off and disconnected my TV in 2001 and wished I had done it years earlier.

The scripts of many TV shows are undermining good values and seeming to promote underperformance as an acceptable alternative culture.

I don''t patronize evangelicals who condemn others for their beliefs about immorality, but I do feel that making under-performance seem as a normal culture, is equally damaging.

Shows about dysfunctional families and glamourizing it''s appeal clearly accerlerates underperformance and robs aspirations from family environments to the most impressionable viewers.

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by hero999-2009 September 13, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
Al-Lihedan is right.
I don''t agree that, the only choice is killing but, they are might be other solutions about this issue. He was taking about an issue that, it''s currently in most of Arab countries.
In the US all channels must view the rating of any movie or show. So you don''t have to worry about what your children might watch if, you know the rating.
But, in most Arabic channels or other channels view via Arabsat or Nilesat is different *.
When you sit with your children in your living room and, you don''t know if your children might see something they haven''t seen it before we will be in very impressing situation. Some channels might view sexual content in times that, these shows shouldn''t be viewed (around 4PM-9PM) some times in the morning. Then you should worry about them.
I''m an open mind person and, I have the right to choice what my children should watch. But, since these channels don''t respect most people they should be stopped by a law like this.

I knew that, they will not be killed but, Al-Lihedan made this strong statement because he wants these channels to care about most people families, especially in Ramadan. Because most channels change their TV shows double in Ramadan compare with any time of the year.
This is just a brief of what is going on with most of TV production.
Thank you for everyone who cares about his family.
*(Arabsat and, Nilesat are a satellite service not such as the cable(Time Warner,etc) ) .
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by hero999-2009 September 13, 2008 11:27 PM EDT

Al-Lihedan is right.
I don''t agree that, the only choice is killing but, they are might be other solutions about this issue. He was taking about an issue that, it''s currently in most of Arab countries.
In the US all channels must view the rating of any movie or show. So you don''t have to worry about what your children might watch if, you know the rating.
But, in most Arabic channels or other channels view via Arabsat or Nilesat is different *.
When you sit with your children in your living room and, you don''t know if your children might see something they haven''t seen it before we will be in very impressing situation. Some channels might view sexual content in times that, these shows shouldn''t be viewed (around 4PM-9PM) some times in the morning. Then you should worry about them.
I''m an open mind person and, I have the right to choice what my children should watch. But, since these channels don''t respect most people they should be stopped by a law like this.

I knew that, they will not be killed but, Al-Lihedan made this strong statement because he wants these channels to care about most people families, especially in Ramadan. Because most channels change their TV shows double in Ramadan compare with any time of the year.
This is just a brief of what is going on with most of TV production.
Thank you for everyone who cares about his family.
*(Arabsat and, Nilesat are a satellite service not such as the cable(Time Warner,etc) ) .
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by hero999-2009 September 13, 2008 11:27 PM EDT

Al-Lihedan is right.
I don''t agree that, the only choice is killing but, they are might be other solutions about this issue. He was taking about an issue that, it''s currently in most of Arab countries.
In the US all channels must view the rating of any movie or show. So you don''t have to worry about what your children might watch if, you know the rating.
But, in most Arabic channels or other channels view via Arabsat or Nilesat is different *.
When you sit with your children in your living room and, you don''t know if your children might see something they haven''t seen it before we will be in very impressing situation. Some channels might view sexual content in times that, these shows shouldn''t be viewed (around 4PM-9PM) some times in the morning. Then you should worry about them.
I''m an open mind person and, I have the right to choice what my children should watch. But, since these channels don''t respect most people they should be stopped by a law like this.

I knew that, they will not be killed but, Al-Lihedan made this strong statement because he wants these channels to care about most people families, especially in Ramadan. Because most channels change their TV shows double in Ramadan compare with any time of the year.
This is just a brief of what is going on with most of TV production.
Thank you for everyone who cares about his family.
*(Arabsat and, Nilesat are a satellite service not such as the cable(Time Warner,etc) ) .
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by gramto8 September 13, 2008 1:43 PM EDT

If we could be selective, I wouldn''''t mind if they beat the cr@p (Not Kill)out of the guy the created Barney the Dinosaur. Anyone how has had to suffer through that "I love you-you love me" song more than once knows what I''''m talking about.


Posted by Questionnews at 07:14 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Quite honestly, no I don''t understand what you mean. I have eight grandchildren. They all grew up with Barney and, at on time or another, their families have had to live with me for one reason or another. I NEVER got tired of them singing that song, either to Barney or to me! I still love it when the littlest ones sing it to me. The oldest is now 15 and the youngest is 2. Thirteen years of Barney and it hasn''t gotten old yet. I guess that is because I don''t mind the fact that Barney was written for CHILDREN!! Perhaps you can''t understand that part. ;-)
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by gramto8 September 13, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
lovesamerica at 06:56 PM

Dah....Then don''''t watch, or are you too stupid to know how to change the channel.


Posted by zoe2006 at 07:09 PM : Sep 12, 2008

The only problem with this is that this mularky is too easily available to children. It doesn''t matter how carefully the parents try to keep it from their kids, it is still put in their faces almost daily. A parent cannot be at their child''s side 24/7. The child has to go to school, etc. Just walking out the door puts them at risk of hearing it blasting from some idiot''s car stereo or TV.
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by gramto8 September 13, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
If the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court made such a pronouncement he would be impeached in short order. This is not just some random nutcase in Saudi Arabia blowing off steam. This is nothing more than a part of a calculated campaign by the radical Muslims to remove the secular influences of the Saudi government and put the Islamic clerics in charge of the government. We can only hope that some nutcase in Saudi Arabia takes up this fatwa and makes an assassination attempt on one of the Saudi royal family, because it appears that if the royal family is going to allow this to pass without comment, that an assassination is likely the only thing that is going to spur them to purge the radical clerics from the government.

Posted by tmittelstaed at 04:36 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Sorry to disappoint you, but this is how the Saudis are.... period! This is how they have been for years, eons even. It ain''t gunna change... get it? This is what GWB has been cozy with all along.
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by gramto8 September 13, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
How about Iraq (allah forgive) where someone gets his/her hand cut off for stealing food, or gets beheaded in the public square for going against the will of the government.....(snip)...

Posted by willo1301 at 01:48 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Excuse me, but the hands being cut off, the stonings, etc. are all going on right there in your special friends'' homeland of Saudi Arabia! I have a friend who is an R.N. who worked there for two years. She said it was the most ''educational'' two years she ever spent. The first time she ever had to try to catheterize a girl who had been ''circumcized'', the first time she saw a stoning occur (a dumptruck unloaded onto a human being after the initial few were cast by hand, taking care of people with only one hand or one eye. These things are things she will never forget of all the thousands of patients she has worked with in her years of nursing.

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by dkhorse1 September 13, 2008 1:54 AM EDT
There are some typos in the last post but I%u2019ve had the last five removed so I don%u2019t know if I should worry about the corrections this one will be removed soon anyway.
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by dkhorse1 September 13, 2008 1:50 AM EDT
I%u2019m liberal; I have problems with the Bush admistration. But I would rather deal with Bush asdministration, then radical Muslims, that%u2019s why I%u2019m not radical libeal. I don%u2019t care for Bush and his policies, but I hate even worse the idea of Islam and sharia law even coming close. Freedom is freedom (even if limited) under Christian ideals versus Muslim.
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by bill_chicago September 13, 2008 1:30 AM EDT
Par for the course:

http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
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by larryhammick September 13, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
Ignorant and bloodthirsty Wahhabi muftis like al-Lihedan are becoming a thing of the past. Reality is crushing in upon Arabia -- especially via TV and the internet -- despite all the efforts of all its barbarian clerics to keep the Arabian Peninsula in the Dark Ages.
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by beehive21-2009 September 13, 2008 1:00 AM EDT
Let us all go back to when the Earth was flat,and the center of the Universe,someone needs to take his head off.The people of the earth will not be treated like a herd of sheep,hang the fool, put him out of his misery.
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by missingamerica September 12, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
Ruh roh...

So many Republicans are in bed (figuratively speaking - I think) with Saudi princes and Big Oil that it makes you wonder if that menage a'' trois will try to lay some sort of censorship on us before long, now that Saudi Arabia has done it.

Here''s hoping Bush doesn''t go dancing in Saudi Arabia again before next January...
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by toolmangler-2009 September 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT
Lets send a tape of Hannity and O''''Riely over there,what ya say huh?
Posted by starleo14672 at 07:26 PM : Sep 12, 2008



They would most likely send a hit squad to get you for it,
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by toolmangler-2009 September 12, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
If the thought police (Muslims version) have their way, you will not be a human being anymore. Human beings as GOD created them have the potential to do all things physicaly possible to do. He gave us a mind to think with and a small set of rules to live by. The rules are simple Love GOD above all and love your neighbor as you love yourself. If you love GOD you will not willingly displease him, If you love your neighbor you cannot allow him to come to harm through a fault (or inaction) of yours. There is no place where GOD gives the right to kill because of a perceived fault (Judge not lest you be judged in return)Man usurped the right to kill by putting words in GODs mouth (the Holy Books)Jesus was sent to straighten out the mess and he did. He gave the two commandments mentioned earlier and told us to come straight to GOD in his name, He was against "Organized Religion" (Whited Sepulchers).
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by starleo146 September 12, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
o the Saudis watch FOX broadcasting? I''''d hate to be FOX''''s CEO if he moved to Saudi Arabia... :scared:




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Posted by hypnotoad72 at 06:40 PM : Sep 12, 2

Lets send a tape of Hannity and O''Riely over there,what ya say huh?
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by questionnews September 12, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
If we could be selective, I wouldn''t mind if they beat the cr@p (Not Kill)out of the guy the created Barney the Dinosaur. Anyone how has had to suffer through that "I love you-you love me" song more than once knows what I''m talking about.
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by lovesamerica September 12, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
Oh, and PS , guess what? I am not even religious!
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