Sept. 11, 2008
What Does A Woman Bring To A Ticket?
CBS News' Kathy Frankovic Says Palin Has Given McCain A Bounce — For Now
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Palin Returns To Alaska
Gov. Palin returned home to a warm welcome in spite of media scrutiny over her record, reports Nancy Cordes. One public policy analyst suggests Palin's rise to fame is similar to Obama's.
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Alaska Is 'On The Map'
"Only On The Web": Alaskans gathered in Fairbanks to welcome Gov. Sarah Palin home. Supporters praised her for being down to earth and talked about the attention Alaska is now receiving.
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"Lipstick On A Pig" Row
In a new ad, the McCain campaign accused Sen. Barack Obama of a thinly-veiled attack on Gov. Sarah Palin. Obama fired back that the ad was "absurd." Chip Reid reports.
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Sarah Palin
Alaska's youngest and first female governor tabbed to be McCain's running mate.
Twenty-four years ago, when Walter Mondale selected Representative Geraldine Ferraro to be his running mate, he was running far behind Ronald Reagan in the polls. His choice was in part a response to demands by women’s groups to put a woman on the Democratic ballot.
Throughout 1984, there were polls asking whether people were more likely to vote Democratic if a woman were on the ticket. In June, the Gallup Poll asked: "If the Democratic presidential nominee selected a woman to be his vice presidential running mate, would this make you more likely or less likely to vote for the Democratic ticket?" Thirty two percent of Democratic voters said it would make them more likely to vote Democratic, 18 percent said it would make them less likely. Independents were evenly divided: 27 percent more likely, 24 percent less likely.
Most other polls also put the impact as a wash - in April of that year, CBS News and The New York Times found 74 percent of all registered voters said it wouldn’t make a difference one way or the other. Those that were affected divided - but more said a woman vice presidential candidate would make them vote against the woman candidate’s party than for it.
Women’s groups trumpeted the positive results and ignored the negatives, especially the fact that many of those who said putting a woman on the ticket would make them more likely to vote Democratic were likely to vote Democratic anyway. The National Women’s Political Caucus polled Democratic convention delegates, and according to Flora Davis in her book Moving the Mountain, they hand-delivered those results to Mondale: 82 percent of convention delegates, they found, would be at least somewhat positive about having a woman on the ticket.
Unfortunately for Mondale, however, there was little hope for the Democratic ticket that year. Ronald Reagan had looked vulnerable in 1983, but by the start of 1984, a CBS News/New York Times Poll showed him 16 points ahead of Mondale among registered voters; and he won the election by 20 points.
This year, those kinds of questions weren’t asked in the months prior to the about the Republican ticket. Polls did find some support for a woman on the Democratic ticket: a Fox News poll in August found 43 percent of registered voters saying Hillary Clinton was the "best" choice for vice president. Other polls suggested she would bring her supporters to the Democratic ticket. The latest CBS News Poll has Obama-Biden winning only 74 percent of Clinton primary voters, although that’s an improvement over the 63 percentage for Barack Obama before the conventions. Among Democratic delegates, Clinton had a huge lead over Biden when delegates were asked to volunteer whom they thought Obama should choose as his running mate.
There are other differences between 1984 and today, some in style and some in substance. Back in 1984, Mondale and Ferraro didn’t touch, not even raising hands together. That has certainly changed. Everybody hugs, nowadays, no matter what the gender of the candidates.
Typically, voters say the vice presidential choices will matter more to them before they are chosen than they say they will afterwards, when the focus of the race shifts back to the tops of the tickets. That has yet to happen this year. Perhaps that’s because the conventions, coming so quickly together, focused attention on the vice presidential choices, and perhaps also it’s because nearly everyone was surprised by John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin.
Last weekend, between the two conventions, Democrats were somewhat more likely than Republicans to say the VP choice would make a difference to them. It appeared that Joe Biden, the safer choice, might be more appealing than Palin in the days immediately after she was named. But now, it’s Palin who is driving more voters. Forty percent of those supporting the McCain-Palin ticket say the vice presidential candidates are having an impact on their vote. Just 24 percent of Obama supporters are saying that.
To underscore the impact, 65 percent of Obama voters are glad he chose Biden; 85 percent of McCain voters are glad he chose Palin!Poll Database
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Although vice presidential choices can affect voter judgment of the candidates at the top of the ticket, so far this year the impact is limited. Although many voters see Palin as having less experience than Biden, the experience gap at the top of the ticket hasn’t changed. Just 47 percent say Palin has prepared herself enough for the job of vice president, something 70 percent say about Biden. Those percentages could certainly change in the next few weeks, particularly after the vice presidential debate on October 2. But her apparent weakness has yet to affect the perceived strength of the man she is running with. Prior to the two conventions, 68 percent said that McCain had prepared himself well for the job of president; even more, 76 percent, say that now.
The selection of Biden hasn’t brought a transfer of his 35 years of Senate experience to perceptions of Obama. Before the conventions, 44 percent described Obama as prepared, and there has been no significant change: 42 percent think so today.
One quality that may be transferable, though, is empathy. Sixty percent say Palin is someone they can relate to (64 percent of women say this). Just 40 percent say this about Biden. Obama has never had a problem on this characteristic: six in ten voters have thought he understands their needs and problems all along. McCain has, and Obama took advantage of that in his acceptance speech, when he accused McCain of "not getting it." Before the Republican Convention, just 44 percent thought McCain understood their needs and problems; that rose to 51 percent afterwards.
The Palin nomination certainly has given McCain a bounce - at least for now.
By Kathy Frankovic
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See all 521 CommentsThat bounce has nothing to do with Palin, its the double absorbant depents he wears......
PALIN''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
lol!
It''s no surprise, then, that Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage, the state capital Juneau and Mrs. Palin''s hometown of Wasilla to dig into her record and background. My sources report the first wave arrived in Anchorage less than 24 hours after John McCain selected her on August 29.
The usual round of zombie brains like Hannity picked it up.
The DNC has refuted this allegation by Fund.
Michael Gehrke, research director of the Democratic National Committee, scoffed at all of this: "Sadly, I don''t have 30 lawyers, researchers, investigators or even wolves at my disposal. We have sent a grand total of zero people to Alaska to research Governor Palin. We''ve got all these McCain houses to keep track of. "
The ironic thing - which you all reported - is that the only people who sent lawyers to Alaska to research Palin was the McCain camp, who belatedly thought it was a good idea to vet her after they picked her to be one heartbeat away from the leader of the free world."
BTW armydog, she HAS been speaking on her own, and NOT making any gaffes. Funny how Obama can''t go one day wihtout his teleprompter without eating a size 11 sandwich. No wonder he cowered out of doing any townhall style debates with McChange, he knows he would fail miserably
Yeah, there are real pictures of Obama, the left has to doctor photos of Palin? Can you smell the fear yet? LOL
This one brings a big steaming pile of her own lies to wallow in. That, and shes a new piece of meat to McCain, one with whom he can continue to practice Adultery.
Trapbreak
I like Palin''s moose control experience don''t you.
It''s about time we had someone who takes a tough stance on moose control in the White House.
What''s your stance on moose control?
PALIN''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
lol!
Posted by Trapbreak
Great questions.
Biden is setting us up for it by what he''s saying.
I''m sure in the Obama War Room, they are telling Biden what to say to ease into his withdrawal.
I wonder what Bill get from Obama in return for putting his wife on the ticket?
Besides all the interns he can bang, I mean.
- 1st generation American, father a Kenyan
* WASHINGTON POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: 1/2 Term U.S. Senate
* MILITARY EXPERIENCE: "God Damm America"
Posted by Trapbreak
Under MILITARY EXPERIENCE, you forgot that he THOUGHT about joining the military.
Lost in the shuffle of Sarah Palin''s sequestration is that John McCain isn''t talking to the press -- or the public -- either. FOX News (from yesterday):
Today marks the four-week anniversary since McCain held his last press conference (8/13 in Birmingham, MI) and three weeks since his last public town hall meeting (8/20 in Las Cruces, NM).
What''''''''s your stance on moose control? - - Posted by Screan_name
America already took a stand on that with Teddy Roosevelt and his Moose Party. Shoot em down.
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Posted by Trapbreak at 01:55 PM : Sep 11, 2008
I hope that every moose in the land is trembling with fear right now at the prospect of Palin as President of the U.S.
It''s high time we show these moose who''s boss!
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
Posted by Screan_name
And what even FUNNIER is that it''s more leadership experience than Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr. has.
But give him credit, he THOUGHT about going into the military.
What Palin does not do, LIE like Osama. She does not cheat like OSama does. She is not a NUT like Osama is. That is about all she Brings To A Ticket? Good. Something Osama does not know.
Posted by Screan_name
Screan, being a city-slicker, you might not know this, but moose are very ill-tempered creatures.
They can be very dangerous.
How come these liberal media folks never give Palin credit for her moose control experience?
Why don''t they talk about how she made the streets of Wasilla safe after a gang of rowdy moose tried to take over the town?
That''s the kind of leadership we need in Washington today.
Palin for President!
That in itself will give those on the fence some pause.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
Posted by Screan_name
And what even FUNNIER is that it''''s more leadership experience than Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr. has.
But give him credit, he THOUGHT about going into the military.
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Posted by HawkSprings at 01:58 PM : Sep 11, 2008
Yeah, Obama is sooooo smart, he knew that the Selective Service would be re-instated in 1980, he registered for it in 1979. LOL
BTW add another qualification to Palins resume''.
She went from the PTA to the Governorship, without the help of the Chicago political thuggery machine,and terrorist Ayers
"It''''s high time we show these moose who''''s boss!"
Posted by Screan_name
Screan, being a city-slicker, you might not know this, but moose are very ill-tempered creatures.
They can be very dangerous.
Posted by HawkSprings at 02:00 PM : Sep 11, 2008
You are right!
And that''s why we need to elect her for President.
That and her beauty pageant experience.
BTW add another qualification to Palins resume''''.
She went from the PTA to the Governorship, without the help of the Chicago political thuggery machine,and terrorist Ayers"
Posted by bretster7
Plus Palin did this all on her own merit.
Not because she rode the coattails of her husband like some OTHER woman we all know and love.
Posted by Screan_name
All in due time, my little pasty friend. All in due time.
I hope that when Palin becomes President of the United States that she brings her extensive moose control experience to handle the terrible moose problems in Washington D.C.
Lol.
PALIN''''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
What an amazing woman!
She should be President!
He later told a Chicago fundraising event that there was still %u201Ca lack of ease about Barack%u201D among white suburban voters, Jews and Catholics. And yesterday he conceded that Hillary Clinton might have been a better vice-presidential pick than him.
"She%u2019s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me," he said. "I mean that sincerely, she%u2019s first rate, so let%u2019s get that straight."
A Washington Post-ABC News poll this week showed white women swinging hard against the Democratic ticket with an eight-point lead being transformed in the space of a week to a twelve-point deficit.
Leon Panetta, a former Chief of Staff in the Bill Clinton White House, is among the senior Democrats who believe that Mr Obama has responded badly to his opponent%u2019s surprise choice of running-mate. %u201CThey seem to be intimidated by the Palin pick,%u201D he told the New York Observer.
London Times
Hussein Muhammad Obama is intimidated. Hussein is a wimp.
Vote McCain/Palin ''08.
Today and tomorrow, ABC''''s anchor Gibson is interviewing Sarah Palin at length and it will be on ABC World News tonight and tomorrow, Nightline tonight, Prime Time tomorrow.
Posted by Trapbreak at 02:03 PM : Sep 11, 2008
No doubt she will bring along her copy of "My Pet Goat" to keep her mind occupied between those "hard" pre-arranged questions...
Posted by tejasdemo
Probably as soft as George Stephanopolous'' interview with Obama''s was.
Good thing Stephie corrected Obama on which faith he is.
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Posted by tejasdemo
Hey tejasdemo. You might want to check your spam folder to see if your dailykos talking points update e-mail was sent there by mistake. You are waaaaay behind the curve with the "change/depends" line. They came up with that one a couple of weeks ago. New material please.
You can almost smell the fear
PALIN''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
Wow that''s impressive.
McCain sure made the right choice when he passed over Paris Hilton for the V.P. slot and chose Palin instead!
Answer: Lipstick
Posted by raflin01
That''s right, sister.
London Times
It''s THIS woman.
This greedy, vindictive, corrupt and ruthless person.
What was wrong with Kay Bailey Hutchinson, a GOP lioness and a bright, ethical politician.
Oh yeah.
Old.
Pro-choice.
Forget HER.
PALIN''''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
Very impressive!
And to think, she could be only one feeble heart beat away from being the President of the United States.
"Do you think...?"
BILL TO BARRY:
"It''s out of the question."
BARRY TO BILL:
"Yeah, besides what would we do with Joe?"
BILL TO BARRY:
" ...Lieberman?"
BARRY TO BILL:
"No, Biden."
BILL TO BARRY:
"Oh, that''s right. Isn''t he still a Senator?"
---------- Posted by HawkSprings
Sigh. Why must I always be the one to post the truth?
HERE is the REST of what Obama said:
%u201C%u2026 my Christian faith. Well, what I%u2019m saying is that he hasn%u2019t suggested that I%u2019m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign%u2019s upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I%u2019m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith, something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time,%u201D Obama said.
* MILITARY EXPERIENCE:
* retired a navy captain (20+ years)
* Silver Star
* 2 Bronze Stars
* 2 Purple Hearts
* Legion of Merit
* Vietnams Medal of Honor
* Distinguished Flying Cross
Posted by Trapbreak at 01:49 PM : Sep 11, 2008
Just look at that military experience and exposure.
And look at the contempt for those who now serve:
Mr Straight Talk is full of doubletalk.
McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.
McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.
McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq.
McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.
When it comes to their claim to support the troops, John McCain and his party are flat-out liars. The message is simple - if you really support the troops, stop voting Republican.
PALIN''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
McCain made the right choice. Palin is clearly far more experienced than Britney Spears.
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Hun? That''''s not "fear" you smell -- it''''s McCain''''s Depends...
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Posted by raflin01
woweeee you are so completely fu uh uh uh neeeee. I kow when I have met my match, I must tuck my tail between my legs and cower away.
I hope the left keeps calling Palin a pig!
I really hope they do.
Then come January, Vice President Palin will preside over the Senate, Obama, and Biden.
PALIN''''S RESUME:
1. Runner up in state beauty pageant.
2. Mayor of Wasilla, population less than 7,000.
3. Governor of Alaska for 18 months.
Wow!!!
Palin for President!!
"Do you think...?"
BILL TO BARRY:
"It''''s out of the question."
BARRY TO BILL:
"Yeah, besides what would we do with Joe?"
BILL TO BARRY:
" ...Lieberman?"
BARRY TO BILL:
"No, Biden."
BILL TO BARRY:
"Oh, that''''s right. Isn''''t he still a Senator?"
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Posted by mydiatribe at 02:11 PM : Sep 11, 2008
Now THAT is freakin funny....You could learn something here raflin01
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